20k Budget - One Final Thought !

Hii guys ... I began my budget with 10k ... and then increased it to 15K.

Now, since I've done my engineering exams well, I've have got a budget of 20k to get my cell.

I am looking forward to SE K850i.
Mainly because of:
1. Excellent 5 mp camera.
2. Superb & Unique Stylish Design.
3. Loud Music.

I also thought of the N82 but, I was not very happy with it's keypad. And secondly, I am not really a symbian fan also !

If there are any other "should-buy" phone in this range then please advise.

Also, please put down your views (both good and bad points) for K850i.

Thanks in advance !

Get a Black N82,stay away from K850i.

I still sincerely feel that u shud go for N82 gourav...It is a complete phone with a lot of features....Once u start using the keypad, u will get used to it within a few days...This was my consideration also initially but then I have read a lot of opinions of N82 users which made me inclined towards this phone...U do get easily used 2 the keypad as the keys r not at all stiff.....

Rest is ur choice brother whichever u like...

I knew I was in for a big confusion between K850i & N82.

My reason for choosing K850i was mainly stylish looks ...

I can compromise on the looks though ... but, what are the advantages that I get over K850i for choosing N82 ?

Go for K850i . SE Rules . i use my friend's N70 it is sluggishly slow . even my low on features k750 phone sounds wayy better than phones till 10k range .

my advise will be k850i . ( it comes with a marble game also, demonstrating its motion sensor technology .) the media player is the same used in PSP and Playstation 3 . if u dont have a PSP u can try getting w950 and PSP + PSP camera .

N82. BTW how much did ya get in your entrances?

k850=great cam+awesum looks+ipod quality sound+briliant screen+brilliant battery backup

n82=great cam+symbian+wifi+gps

btw....in a couple of weeks the g900 and the c902 will also be available sporting a 5 mp cam...

g900=symbian UIQ+great cam+ipod quality sound+wifi+gps...

c902=brilliant looks+10 mm thick+great cam+ipod quality sound etc etc..

G900
C902

iatb.gourav said:
I knew I was in for a big confusion between K850i & N82.

My reason for choosing K850i was mainly stylish looks ...

I can compromise on the looks though ... but, what are the advantages that I get over K850i for choosing N82 ?

Hey gourav-
1. Looks - N82 has definitely improved with the black version..It does look equivalent to the K850i in this department if not beats it....
2. Cam results - better than the K850i....U can check some of the reviews on the net for confirmation if u don't trust me...
3. Price - www.univercell.in - N82-19615/-, K850i - 19135/- So a price difference of Rs. 480 only...

Now the extras that u will get by spending these Rs. 480/-
1. Wifi - K850i does not have wifi...
2. N82 - 16 M colors, K850i - 256k ... So clarity of N82 is better.
3. Display size - N 82 - 2.4'', K850i - 2.2'' - Higher screen is better for internet surfing.
4. Phonebook - N82 - u can store unlimited entries...K850i - 1000 x20 fields
5.Call records - N82 - 30 days..K850i - 30 entries... So N82 is better as u have call records of 1 month...
6. OS - N82 is symbian so more applications are available...
7. GPS Navigation - N82 has it..K850i doesn't. Now don't tell me that whenever GPS is launched in ur city u will not use it...
8. Weight - N82 - 114g, K850i - 118 g (This is minor issue and can be negated)
9. 3.5 mm audio jack - N82 has - so you can plugin any headphones...
10. TV Output - N82 can be connected 2 ur TV 2 view ur photos and videos or 4 that matter whatever comes on ur N82 screen... K850i lacks this feature...
11. Office document Viewer - N82 has it...U can read ur excel, word, pdf docs in N82 after loading it...K850i - This feature is missing....
13. N82 cam has carl Zeiss optics with a xenon flash and autofocus....K850i does not have Carl Zeiss optics in its cam...
14. N82 - equipped with ARM 11 332 MHz processor...Although symbian the N82 is really really fast...
15. Internal memory - N82 - 100 MB..K850i - 40 MB ( So N82 is better)

So, dear what else do u want by spending just Rs. 418/- extra....According 2 me N82 is a better choice in this segment.....

Note:- I am not a fanboy of any brand...Whatever is better, I just acknowledge it...I own a K750i and I know its cam is best in 2 MP category...I love my K750i and will never sell it...

and gourav if u wud have asked me 2 choose between N73 and K810i, I wud have chosen K810i coz its cam is better....

BUT in the 20k segment, It is N82 only.. It is definitely a better deal....

Rest depends on u dear...Go 4 whatever ur heart says...coz u have 2 use whatever u buy and in the end it is ur satisfaction that matters the most....

+1 go for n82 not for k850 cybersh*t

+1 for N82.

In my opinion, you should go for N82. Here are some advantages of N82 over K850i:
Slightly better camera,
Much better video recording,
Bigger display,
Stereo speakers,
3.5mm headphone jack,
Graphics accelerator,
Orientation sensor which works throughout the menu and not just in media player,
N-Gage platform,
Wi-fi,
Edge Class 32,
TV Out,
And in Mumbai atleast, better resale value. And I haven't even included the fact that it's Symbian (since its not important to you).

To be honest, K850i is not a bad phone. But when you bring N82 in the picture and all the extra features that it brings along and that too at just 1000 bucks more, then the K850i suddenly looks like a bad deal. Had it been priced at around 16k, K850i been a good buy. But at 18k, it doesn't give any strong reasons to choose it over N82.

On paper N82 does looks good & more powerful then K850i but with all those features one questions comes in mind, will anyone use all those features?

1. Wifi - K850i does not have wifi...

It is a mobile phone, how many places are there where you will get free WiFi or something??? Maybe Barista or CCD, but it's not like u stay there for ever. Having WiFi over GPRS/EDGE for internet won't make a difference in a phone anyway.

2. N82 - 16 M colors, K850i - 256k ... So clarity of N82 is better.

I agree. But it also uses more battery. But a feature I would certainly want to have in a phone.

3. Display size - N 82 - 2.4'', K850i - 2.2'' - Higher screen is better for internet surfing.

A difference of .2 inches is hardly noticable.

4. Phonebook - N82 - u can store unlimited entries...K850i - 1000 x20 fields

Yup, N82 is much better here.

5.Call records - N82 - 30 days..K850i - 30 entries... So N82 is better as u have call records of 1 month...

In real world scenario, this is irrelevent.

6. OS - N82 is symbian so more applications are available...

All what u need is available in K850i either as a JAVA app or inbuilt. What application do u install on a Phone anyway?

7. GPS Navigation - N82 has it..K850i doesn't. Now don't tell me that whenever GPS is launched in ur city u will not use it...

it's not available. Why pay for a feature u won't use..

9. 3.5 mm audio jack - N82 has - so you can plugin any headphones...

K850 comes with HPM series of headphone & in that u can plug any 3.5mm headphone.

10. TV Output - N82 can be connected 2 ur TV 2 view ur photos and videos or 4 that matter whatever comes on ur N82 screen... K850i lacks this feature...

How many people use this? Will u carry the cable everywhere?

11. Office document Viewer - N82 has it...U can read ur excel, word, pdf docs in N82 after loading it...K850i - This feature is missing....

No, there are JAVA based PDF & DOC file viewers.

13. N82 cam has carl Zeiss optics with a xenon flash and autofocus....K850i does not have Carl Zeiss optics in its cam...

Won't make much difference, picture quality depends on light.

14. N82 - equipped with ARM 11 332 MHz processor...Although symbian the N82 is really really fast...

Depends.

15. Internal memory - N82 - 100 MB..K850i - 40 MB ( So N82 is better)

you don't use a memory card?

Overall N82 is for those who want a brick & a small computer while K850i is for those who want a multimedia device & phone.

uppalpankaj said:
Hey gourav-
1. Looks - N82 has definitely improved with the black version..It does look equivalent to the K850i in this department if not beats it....
2. Cam results - better than the K850i....U can check some of the reviews on the net for confirmation if u don't trust me...
3. Price - www.univercell.in - N82-19615/-, K850i - 19135/- So a price difference of Rs. 480 only...

Now the extras that u will get by spending these Rs. 480/-
1. Wifi - K850i does not have wifi...
2. N82 - 16 M colors, K850i - 256k ... So clarity of N82 is better.
3. Display size - N 82 - 2.4'', K850i - 2.2'' - Higher screen is better for internet surfing.
4. Phonebook - N82 - u can store unlimited entries...K850i - 1000 x20 fields
5.Call records - N82 - 30 days..K850i - 30 entries... So N82 is better as u have call records of 1 month...
6. OS - N82 is symbian so more applications are available...
7. GPS Navigation - N82 has it..K850i doesn't. Now don't tell me that whenever GPS is launched in ur city u will not use it...
8. Weight - N82 - 114g, K850i - 118 g (This is minor issue and can be negated)
9. 3.5 mm audio jack - N82 has - so you can plugin any headphones...
10. TV Output - N82 can be connected 2 ur TV 2 view ur photos and videos or 4 that matter whatever comes on ur N82 screen... K850i lacks this feature...
11. Office document Viewer - N82 has it...U can read ur excel, word, pdf docs in N82 after loading it...K850i - This feature is missing....
13. N82 cam has carl Zeiss optics with a xenon flash and autofocus....K850i does not have Carl Zeiss optics in its cam...
14. N82 - equipped with ARM 11 332 MHz processor...Although symbian the N82 is really really fast...
15. Internal memory - N82 - 100 MB..K850i - 40 MB ( So N82 is better)

So, dear what else do u want by spending just Rs. 418/- extra....According 2 me N82 is a better choice in this segment.....

Note:- I am not a fanboy of any brand...Whatever is better, I just acknowledge it...I own a K750i and I know its cam is best in 2 MP category...I love my K750i and will never sell it...

and gourav if u wud have asked me 2 choose between N73 and K810i, I wud have chosen K810i coz its cam is better....

BUT in the 20k segment, It is N82 only.. It is definitely a better deal....

Rest depends on u dear...Go 4 whatever ur heart says...coz u have 2 use whatever u buy and in the end it is ur satisfaction that matters the most....

looks-k850 way better..noway the n82 comes close with black or watever..
cam results-subjective..i take wonderful pics with the new firmware cam..
for wifi,gps,symbian etc-g900
n82 screen-check them both out side by side..u will know hcih is better..k850 beats it by miles..
display size-.2 inch..well..okk..
phonebook-the k850 has unlimited entires..cap removed with latest firmware
call records-u can sync ur records thru pc suite to ur computer and save it if u want to chk thru for future refernce..but i doubt the n82 has a 30 day period..a person can have 100s of calls..not sure bout that..
gps- it comes bundled with google maps and the maps of kolkata...very easy to browse...u wont miss gps n any way....comes pre installed with the maps of the major cities..the enabler which costs 1.5k then provides for gps activities
3.5 mm jack-yea u have to use the hpm 70 for plugging in the 3.5 mm jack..the bundled earphones with the n82 are crap..
internal memory-what makes the n82 better in this regard??i have no idea..the os takes up half the space anyway...

bottom line is..if u need symbian...go for k850....the k850 and the n82 are portrayed for different markets...now its upto u...

oh i forgot..battery life...
iget 3-4 days of usage..
and god save u with the n82 if u text a lot...

upto u now...

N82's keypad is really bad for people with thick fingers.

One thing people forget is the PC Suite software, whether it is Sony or Nokia both of there PC Suite are pretty bloated. On Nokia there is no option other then Nokia PC suite however, in case of K850i we have MyPhoneExplorer. it's not like you won't use your PC to connect to the phone.

Does N82 supports MTP protocol for syncing with Windows Media Player like K850i does?

How much difference is there in price of k850i and N82? just Rs. 480...

So for Rs. 480, u r getting so many additional features which K850i definitely lacks in ( GPS, Wifi etc. etc. which I have already mentioned)...Rs. 480 is a very small amount when u r spending 20k on a mobile...

So, N82 is a better value for money in this price category..

When you connect your Nokia phone to your PC you get the option to either connect via PC Suite, or as Mass storage or sync with Windows Media player. With PC suite you can browse both phone memory as well as memory card.

GPS is totally free with Nokia Maps unless you want voice navigation.
Abt the apps, Gx, i want Opera, Implus, Smartmovie etc. The symbian ones. Not the java crap.
And the n82 is just as sleek and sexy as any fone can get. Do you mind if we get a computer in the same price as other show off fones?

And the only Java app worth using is Opera Mini. Otherwise all other app are crap and nowhere close to their Symbian counterparts. Once you get used to the Symbian apps, you wouldn't want to use the Java ones again.

iatb.gourav said:
2. Superb & Unique Stylish Design.

Bro take the mobile in hand.. use it for 5 min and think again..

^^^i have been using it six months..used the n82 too..no comments on that...

cough gough , anyone said java has less applications?
*img402.imageshack.us/img402/3614/12sk2.jpg

and regarding games , i have a collection of JAVA games over 1 GB

Pathik said:
Abt the apps, Gx, i want Opera, Implus, Smartmovie etc. The symbian ones. Not the java crap.

Opera mini is there, but yeah native opera must be faster, but I don't see much difference in both.

IMPlus alternate is Morange, IMplus is also for java.

Smartmovie sux big time, I would rather prefer encoding a video to h.263 mp4 using riverpast then smart movie

Opera has a whole lot more features than Mini.
Smartmovie/divx are amongst the best players on mobile.
No Java app can match Slick/Implus

Hmm, then it's better to buy the Sony Ericsoon G900 or Nokia N78. Atleast they look better then N82 in physical looks to me. N82 seriously looks like a brick to me

uppalpankaj said:
Hey gourav-
1. Looks - N82 has definitely improved with the black version..It does look equivalent to the K850i in this department if not beats it....
2. Cam results - better than the K850i....U can check some of the reviews on the net for confirmation if u don't trust me...
3. Price - www.univercell.in - N82-19615/-, K850i - 19135/- So a price difference of Rs. 480 only...

Now the extras that u will get by spending these Rs. 480/-
1. Wifi - K850i does not have wifi...
2. N82 - 16 M colors, K850i - 256k ... So clarity of N82 is better.
3. Display size - N 82 - 2.4'', K850i - 2.2'' - Higher screen is better for internet surfing.
4. Phonebook - N82 - u can store unlimited entries...K850i - 1000 x20 fields
5.Call records - N82 - 30 days..K850i - 30 entries... So N82 is better as u have call records of 1 month...
6. OS - N82 is symbian so more applications are available...
7. GPS Navigation - N82 has it..K850i doesn't. Now don't tell me that whenever GPS is launched in ur city u will not use it...
8. Weight - N82 - 114g, K850i - 118 g (This is minor issue and can be negated)
9. 3.5 mm audio jack - N82 has - so you can plugin any headphones...
10. TV Output - N82 can be connected 2 ur TV 2 view ur photos and videos or 4 that matter whatever comes on ur N82 screen... K850i lacks this feature...
11. Office document Viewer - N82 has it...U can read ur excel, word, pdf docs in N82 after loading it...K850i - This feature is missing....
13. N82 cam has carl Zeiss optics with a xenon flash and autofocus....K850i does not have Carl Zeiss optics in its cam...
14. N82 - equipped with ARM 11 332 MHz processor...Although symbian the N82 is really really fast...
15. Internal memory - N82 - 100 MB..K850i - 40 MB ( So N82 is better)

So, dear what else do u want by spending just Rs. 418/- extra....According 2 me N82 is a better choice in this segment.....

Note:- I am not a fanboy of any brand...Whatever is better, I just acknowledge it...I own a K750i and I know its cam is best in 2 MP category...I love my K750i and will never sell it...

and gourav if u wud have asked me 2 choose between N73 and K810i, I wud have chosen K810i coz its cam is better....

BUT in the 20k segment, It is N82 only.. It is definitely a better deal....

Rest depends on u dear...Go 4 whatever ur heart says...coz u have 2 use whatever u buy and in the end it is ur satisfaction that matters the most....

Amazing comparison....! Hats Off to Uppalpankaj

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Dear iatb.gourav,if the mobile is to impress your GF,then go for K850i...If it is for your use only then N82 is a good choice.

aah wow! Excellent comparison and relevant arguments! Its simple bro, different ppl different perspectives and as well as different tastes!
After all these discussions, atleast now u know everything about the two phones. See, all i would suggest is go with the one, whichever suits u best! Make ur own decision. Coz, in the end...u wont have any regrets.

iatb.gourav said:
Now, since I've done my engineering exams well, I've have got a budget of 20k to get my cell.

So have you completed your BE or which year you are in . I am third year engineering student and my exams are on from last 17 days and will continue up till june 15 !!! this is really pis**ng me of . OH and for the phone , choose n82 .

hee hee .. this thread is quite funny .. u got 20k budget ..then get n82 dude .. k850i is failed product ( check esato forum) .. what is there to think .. and i am no fanboy either

and n82 looks like a brick ..wow! bekar joke though .. get ur eyes checked dude .. though u can say it does not look like a 20k phone ..

this n82 is simply amazing phone .. and i find it quite funny when people compare it with non os k850i .

@amd - though k850i is way behind n82 in specks ..u make it look as if it has more features .. hee hee .. man u should be working for se..

@sefanboys- guys wake up ..no new se phone is exciting leaving xperia .. no new kseries phone ..only c series that too without xenon flash and tiny sensors .. common se ..

@thread starter - its ur take dude..spend it wisely ..

rohan_mhtr said:
So have you completed your BE or which year you are in . I am third year engineering student and my exams are on from last 17 days and will continue up till june 15 !!! this is really pis**ng me of . OH and for the phone , choose n82 .

dude ..chilll .. engg students ki life ki yehi story hain ..keep working hard ..

Thanks a lot for so many replies, guys.
There are a lot of things to which I'd like to reply. Do correct me if I get wrong anywhere.

Pathik said:
N82. BTW how much did ya get in your entrances?

All the results are not yet out but I have cleared for CSE in ICFAITECH B'lore & Sikkin Manipal University.

uppalpankaj said:
Hey gourav-
1. Looks - N82 has definitely improved with the black version..It does look equivalent to the K850i in this department if not beats it....

Looks are rather a personal choice as they can't be measured. I feel N82 comes nowhere even close to K850i when it comes to looks.

uppalpankaj said:
Hey gourav-
2. Cam results - better than the K850i....U can check some of the reviews on the net for confirmation if u don't trust me...

I agree that most experts say the N82 has a better cam than K850i. But, AFAIK, the difference is very slight only. I can ignore that.

uppalpankaj said:
Hey gourav-
1. Wifi - K850i does not have wifi...

I won't be using it anyways.

Pathik said:
And the n82 is just as sleek and sexy as any fone can get. Do you mind if we get a computer in the same price as other show off fones?

Again, if you call N82 sleek & sexy I don't know what will you call K850i ? Secondly, I do want want a computer in my phone. I'll be getting my laptop and I'll use that for all computing purpose, internet etc.

the.kaushik said:
Bro take the mobile in hand.. use it for 5 min and think again..

I don't get why you said so?
Maybe, you are referring to the fingerprints that gets attracted easily.
I'll keep this in mind before I buy the phone.

rohan_mhtr said:
So have you completed your BE or which year you are in .

No, I've just given my engineering entrance exams.

yogi7272 said:
hee hee .. this thread is quite funny .. u got 20k budget ..then get n82 dude .. k850i is failed product ( check esato forum) .. what is there to think .. and i am no fanboy either

K850i is a failed product ??? Okey, even if I agree that N82 is better, what made you say that K850i is a failed product ? Please please please elaborate a bit more on this.

One last thing, which one of the two is louder ? (Both music & ringtone)

iatb.gourav said:
Thanks a lot for so many replies, guys.
There are a lot of things to which I'd like to reply. Do correct me if I get wrong anywhere.

All the results are not yet out but I have cleared for CSE in ICFAITECH B'lore & Sikkin Manipal University.

Looks are rather a personal choice as they can't be measured. I feel N82 comes nowhere even close to K850i when it comes to looks.

I agree that most experts say the N82 has a better cam than K850i. But, AFAIK, the difference is very slight only. I can ignore that.

I won't be using it anyways.

Again, if you call N82 sleek & sexy I don't know what will you call K850i ? Secondly, I do want want a computer in my phone. I'll be getting my laptop and I'll use that for all computing purpose, internet etc.

I don't get why you said so?
Maybe, you are referring to the fingerprints that gets attracted easily.
I'll keep this in mind before I buy the phone.

No, I've just given my engineering entrance exams.

K850i is a failed product ??? Okey, even if I agree that N82 is better, what made you say that K850i is a failed product ? Please please please elaborate a bit more on this.

One last thing, which one of the two is louder ? (Both music & ringtone)

So that means you want to go with K850i.. Go ahead go for it! But looking at your post above, you are only going for it cause of the looks (which is ok if you want looks). Other than looks (which are subjective), there is no way you can compare N82 with K850i.

go and check what people have to say abt k850i on esato forums .. that is a se forum by the way ..

ok leave are you a gamer ?

i think you are ...

have you ever played a symbian game ?

Java games are all crap and java application tends to slow down the mobile too

Lemme show you a pic of a game i love

now do you think any java game is comparable with this game ?

*img262.imageshack.us/img262/2360/screenshotsmb4pd7.jpg

india is growing up rapidly and i think in years to come the visual radio and many such apz will be usuable

and you don't want GPS haha

from you commitment i believe that you will love to show off this feature to your friends
it will also be available for your city soon as more and more company will start including these features to compete with them nokia will concentrate more and more on improving this feature

N82 also has accelerometer

dude you can easily figure out the difference in screen size 2.4 > 2.2

well just go to a mobile shop and ask the bestseller for that budget you will be surprised that it is not sony but nokia n82

now it is up to you to decide

gx_saurav said:
On paper N82 does looks good & more powerful then K850i but with all those features one questions comes in mind, will anyone use all those features?

Why not..People will use these features with time...

gx_saurav said:
It is a mobile phone, how many places are there where you will get free WiFi or something??? Maybe Barista or CCD, but it's not like u stay there for ever. Having WiFi over GPRS/EDGE for internet won't make a difference in a phone anyway.

Wifi is a great feature of N82...U can have a BB connection with wifi modem and can use it for surfing on ur mobile...N82 can connect 2 wifi devices such as ur laptop for data transfer etc...The 3G is being launched in India by the end of this yr and wifi pts. r gonna increase with time...

gx_saurav said:
A difference of .2 inches is hardly noticable.

A greater screen gives a better surfing experience and bigger screen is better...

gx_saurav said:
In real world scenario, this is irrelevent.

Call records - 30 days for N82..Can u retrieve the person's cell no. who called u 30 days back with K850i...I don't think that u will make only one call per day with the K850i.....

gx_saurav said:
it's not available. Why pay for a feature u won't use..

GPS is available in India in some cities dear...i thought that u know this....Its free..U don't have 2 pay 4 it..

gx_saurav said:
How many people use this? Will u carry the cable everywhere?

Many people use the TV output feature...One always like 2 view the photos & videos taken ob big screen. So this is quite a handy feature..

gx_saurav said:
Won't make much difference, picture quality depends on light.

The cam results r better due to Carl Zeiss optics...Just check the review sites 4 this...

gx_saurav said:
you don't use a memory card?

But bigger memory is always better...

gx_saurav said:
Overall N82 is for those who want a brick & a small computer while K850i is for those who want a multimedia device & phone.

And Dear N82 is not a brick phone..K850i is heavier by 4 gms than N82...
N82 - 114 g, K850i - 118 gms.

( Now which one is a brick, u decide...)

Guys, I accept that I am a little inclined towards K850i.

Honestly speaking, it because of its stylish design.

And secondly, the I'll be using features like wifi, internet surfing, or viewing office documents on my laptop.

That's why I thought that K850i would be a better choice for me. (I've always liked stylish phones ... My last few phones were Moto Rizr V3i & Moto Razr Z3)

But, looking after such unanimous inclination towards N82, I feel that I am making a mistake.
Still I am not 100% convinced.

Is K850i really such a bad phone?

after two pages of k850i cybersh*t beating you still want to know what's bad

girish.g said:
after two pages of k850i cybersh*t beating you still want to know what's bad

Well, read all the posts ... They mention why N82 is good ...

But I asked why K850i is bad ?

the bad is dpad,accelerometer,camera,design,softkeys.

girish.g said:
the bad is dpad,accelerometer,camera,design,softkeys.

What's left then ???

there is the psp type file manager which is pretty good

girish.g said:
the bad is dpad,accelerometer,camera,design,softkeys.

D -Pad wise K850 is better then N82
Keypad Wise K850i is much better then N82
K850i looks like a gadget, N82 looks like a brick to me. Even N78 looks better
Camera is subjective, I find Sony Good, U find Nokia good.
Design wise K850i is easier to use then N82
Softkeys of N82 sux
Accelerometer is hardly usefull in real world

gx_saurav said:
D -Pad wise K850 is better then N82
Keypad Wise K850i is much better then N82
K850i looks like a gadget, N82 looks like a brick to me. Even N78 looks better
Camera is subjective, I find Sony Good, U find Nokia good.
Design wise K850i is easier to use then N82
Softkeys of N82 sux
Accelerometer is hardly usefull in real world

you cant even call k850's a dpad.
k850i looks like a brick doesn't look like sony has created that phone sony's designs were so awesome, but k850..
in my opinion n82 softkey is better than k850i's
sony's camera was good(like in k750 and k790) but this is just so crap

gx_saurav said:
D -Pad wise K850 is better then N82
Keypad Wise K850i is much better then N82
K850i looks like a gadget, N82 looks like a brick to me. Even N78 looks better
Design wise K850i is easier to use then N82

Highly subjective.

exactly.

iatb.gourav said:
Well, read all the posts ... They mention why N82 is good ...

But I asked why K850i is bad ?

Read my first post in this thread again.

gx_saurav said:
D -Pad wise K850 is better then N82
Keypad Wise K850i is much better then N82
K850i looks like a gadget, N82 looks like a brick to me. Even N78 looks better
Camera is subjective, I find Sony Good, U find Nokia good.
Design wise K850i is easier to use then N82
Softkeys of N82 sux
Accelerometer is hardly usefull in real world

Agree to each and every word !!! (Except for the camera part) !

girish.g said:
you cant even call k850's a dpad.
k850i looks like a brick doesn't look like sony has created that phone sony's designs were so awesome, but k850..
in my opinion n82 softkey is better than k850i's
sony's camera was good(like in k750 and k790) but this is just so crap

No offence to you, but, IMO, K850i is one of the "most-stylish" phones available till date.

you may find it stylish, but in my opinion it looks ugly.

How about LG Viewty if you are concerned about style.

iatb.gourav said:
Guys, I accept that I am a little inclined towards K850i.

Honestly speaking, it because of its stylish design.

And secondly, the I'll be using features like wifi, internet surfing, or viewing office documents on my laptop.

That's why I thought that K850i would be a better choice for me. (I've always liked stylish phones ... My last few phones were Moto Rizr V3i & Moto Razr Z3)

But, looking after such unanimous inclination towards N82, I feel that I am making a mistake.
Still I am not 100% convinced.

Is K850i really such a bad phone?

Its not that K850i is a bad phone....It is only that N82 is way better than K850i...N82 is more feature rich than K850i...U can see my previous posts 2 see what extra features N82 has and why it is better than K850i...

And then, there is not much of price difference between K850i and N82...So when u r getting so many extras in N82 by spending just a little more (Rs. 480 almost), then I think that it is really wise 2 go 4 N82 only....N82 is a better value for money than K850i..

U can also see the poll based thread 'Which high end mobile do you wanna own/currently own?' which I started yesterday...The N82 is on the top spot as for now and seems 2 b the most popular as compared 2 other cell phones....

The thread is here.. *www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=88895

girish.g said:
you may find it stylish, but in my opinion it looks ugly.

You find K850i ugly ... And you like N82 's design ... kinda funny

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Third Eye said:
How about LG Viewty if you are concerned about style.

I don't want just style. Else I could have gone for Moto Rizr2 also.

I want beauty with brains ....

So, K50i and N82 are my only choices ...

iatb.gourav said:
You find K850i ugly ... And you like N82 's design ... kinda funny !!

I don't want just style. Else I could have gone for Moto Rizr2 also.

Read Viewty reviews,it's not just about style.

@krates: The best looking Symbian game

*www.symbian-freak.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=15218

can anyone tell me what has the k850 accelrometer got to do with nething?? :O

in fact..u can use the accelerometer to play games..theres the nfs pro street and many other accelerometer games which are optimized for SE phones..and EA and SE have come to an exclusive deal..where EA will be providing accelrometer games for 6 months free to SE users..starting from C902..read it somewhere..

beats me..
the d-pad- much better than the n82 anyday...u will obviouslyt need getting used to it for a few days..but then its fine..

the touch sensitive soft keys are a charm..and they vibrate when u press em..

the k850 has an automatic shutter..super cool for a cam phone..but u have to get used to the cam a bit..u cant start clicking beauties at the outset..takes bout a coupla days to get used to the sensor..

why is noun saying bout the music quality huh?? ..no comments on that..the psp menu is brilliant..the n82 has a lot to learn from SE when it comes to UI..

the k850 will soon be modable and u will be able to incorporate flash themes...better cam drivers..beat the k850 at that..

i have mentioned beofre..u get google maps with all the maps preinstalled..so u have all the maps at ur disposal...ooh.m missing gps..lol..

wifi-has anyone tried out the wifi functionalities yet??..dunno..but i heard is pretty weak..and u need to be very close to a tower to get a signal...dunno..mayb wrong..

what else??symbian maybe..if u need smartmovie and a document viewer..go for it..else i dont think there are many applications to boast about...

nagage-LOLZZZZZ!!!!! 10$ s for a game..buy that..and n82 comes with sophisticated piracy protection...so no pirated games guys..

SE PLAYNOW ARENA!!!-ever heard of this thing??SE collaborated with napster to form the biggest music bank in the phone industry with more than 5 million songs at their disposal..collaboration with EA...

now u can download songs,games and do much more with that..just trackid the song..and they will send u the album and the price at a discounted rate...bbye bye ngage..oh..as a matter of fact..according to easto..the psp arena is to be alunched soon..with the wifi adapter...now if u want wifi in urset..just plug in a small adapter and ur ready to go..

did i miss anything??

n 82 is the way to go

but u have to buy the phone and u ahve to use the phone.
so buy the phone which gives satisfaction to ur heart.

Frankly speaking dude. You always start threads to know abt a phone but from your posts it seems that you have all information abt that device coz u never agree with anyone's suggestions.

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iatb.gourav said:
Well, read all the posts ... They mention why N82 is good ...

But I asked why K850i is bad ?

The factors that make N82 good are not there in K850i. Thats the bad in K850i
Its as simple as that

Anyways, as they say there is no such thing as the best phone. Its the phone which suits your needs better which is the best phone for you. But in this case N82 has something for everyone.... in fact it has everything for everyone

As far as I am concerned the only negative of N82 is its keypad. Many on this forum have got used to it. Just take a N82 in your hands and if u feel u r ok with the keypad, stop thinking twice & get the N82.

Those who say things like GPS won't be used are the ones who are stuck with K850i and do not have GPS on their phones .... its basically a case of sour grapes :))

And I have a sneaking suspicion that at the end of the day you'll buy the K850i, even if the people voting for N82 against K850i are 10:1.

@ nikeel : Lot of people are talking about N82's Key-pad. Even I was worried initially, but, now after 12 days of use, I could find the keypad quite convenient, even though the keys are smaller but the space between the keys is quite spacious, which helps to handle it easily. The only thing is one has to get used to it at least for a couple of days. Moreover the build of keypad is very strong which according to me will not get loosen for years....

Hey, I forgot....leave both N82 & K850. Get Sony ericsson W960i, best of both world.

ya i also think that many people will tell you to buy N82 but when you are inclined towards K850I which is acting as an unbalanced force and many are trying to make that force balanced but still some people are increasing that unbalanced force so the unbalanced force will make you buy the K850I

lol copied from my physics book force chapter

@gx_saurav I wonder why you missed out that in the first place. Anyways, better late than never.

@iatb.gourav are you going to make pickle out of your Stylish phone? NO! So chalk out your requirements and then narrow down to models. Though I am SE fan myself, I advise you to go for the phone with features that you'll use the most. Freaking Network is like crap even in metros like Mumbai so think about all those demerits and Merits.

My opinion....go for W960i...best deal.

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gx_saurav said:
Hey, I forgot....leave both N82 & K850. Get Sony ericsson W960i, best of both world.

AFAIK, W960i does not have GPS.
Moreover, it only has a 3.2 MP camera. It does not even have EDGE support.

Plus its priced in the 25k-26k region !!!!

I fail to understand how that can be better than N82.

@Gourav: you mentioned somewhere in the above posts that you do not need a computer, only a phone... In that case, why are spending 20K in the first place... only for looks..?? You can a classy looking phone for much less than that.. you need cam and music too, still you get a phone for something less.. IMHO, if you are spending 20K on a phone, get something that has all the best features in it.. If you are gonna use your mobile only for calls, an occasional snap and some music, get one of the SE phones for much lesser and save some bucks... Ultimately, its your decision (and seems that you have made one before starting this thread itself..

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utsav said:
Frankly speaking dude. You always start threads to know abt a phone but from your posts it seems that you have all information abt that device coz u never agree with anyone's suggestions.

I always read the reviews first. And then I ask you all to check if I am not making a mistake at my choice!

krazzy said:
And I have a sneaking suspicion that at the end of the day you'll buy the K850i, even if the people voting for N82 against K850i are 10:1.

Hmmm .... you have a good "suspicious" power then.

Let me tell something now.
My last 4 phones were: nokia 6600 > moto V3 > N72 > moto Z3 !!
And from my experience, I always got bored of the Nokia phones in 3-4 months. keep in mind that the models I used were bestsellers at a time!
So, I am afraid this might happen with n82 too.
And I don't need a "smart-phone". I need a "multimedia phone".
That makes me incline toward K850i.
And in addition, theres the rock like keypad of N82 and its average looks.

lol,You will never get bored of N82 because of better games and wide range of applications.K850 has semi touch screen, so it can create problems and the keypad

.Search for K850 nightmare in google

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A mobile phone isn't about games & applications only, it's about ease of use. Why do U think that despite of having a pathetic software iphone is selling? Cos it does what it does properly. It makes phone calls, email in a very good manner.

but that's it, it doesn't do anything else.

*www.nirmaltv.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/n82.jpg
*www.cellphonedigest.net/images/Sony%20Ericsson%20K850i.JPG
*www.letsgodigital.org/images/artikelen/13/sony_ericsson_k850_zoom1.jpg
*www.knowyourmobile.com/siteimage/scale/800/600/12581.png

the SE phones are very Easy to use , i prefer my keypad for sending sms then any <other brands > in the market . the file manager is simple and all sony device easily connect M2 and Memory Stick Pro Duo .

The k850 sucks relatively, not absolutely.

Well i wanted to commit that symbian themes are just ****. and sony ericsson themes are quite cool

but i can sacrifice those features for N82 then K850I

i personally think that K850I is priced high if it has been priced at 17k then it was the best phone but when

N95 8gig ( 28000 rs ) is not comparable with N82( 20000 rs) then you must think yourself

fonearena.com have wrote down words that

A 5 Mega Pixel N-Series Star from Nokia which has almost all the features of the N95 8GB but has 1 more great feature - Camera with a Xenon Flash

well @krates: your price quotes are really high.I saw in ebay and all new n95 is costing around 23K while n82 for 18.5K.

vilas_patil said:
@ nikeel : Lot of people are talking about N82's Key-pad. Even I was worried initially, but, now after 12 days of use, I could find the keypad quite convenient, even though the keys are smaller but the space between the keys is quite spacious, which helps to handle it easily. The only thing is one has to get used to it at least for a couple of days. Moreover the build of keypad is very strong which according to me will not get loosen for years....

no doubt for that keypad is small but space between 2 keys are well enough to use it without any problems.

nikeel said:
AFAIK, W960i does not have GPS.
Moreover, it only has a 3.2 MP camera. It does not even have EDGE support.

Plus its priced in the 25k-26k region !!!!

I fail to understand how that can be better than N82.

no value for money
u dont have good camera and u hwould have to pay 25k for such a phone flip the thoght of w960

gx_saurav said:
A mobile phone isn't about games & applications only, it's about ease of use. Why do U think that despite of having a pathetic software iphone is selling? Cos it does what it does properly. It makes phone calls, email in a very good manner.

but that's it, it doesn't do anything else.

Then why spend 20k for a mobile , if you want to make only calls then you can get yourself nokia 1110 or if you want something from SE then get j110 .

hey guys, here are my two cents ..

about k850i - i called it failed product cos it is centered around its 5mp cam which is not substancially better than the competition ..which infact is inferiour to nokia , lg and samsung camera phones.. and to top it all, n82 is not even a dedicated camera phone .. i have not used it at all ..but when sony releases a cybershot k series phone then it has to beat the competition fair & square , which is not the case.. k790i and k750i were leaders in their time.. then , i read a lot about various probs on esato forum.. u can do it urself ..just check that forum ..

@n82 - some people say it has useless features as gps and wifi .. i used a prog called nokia sports tracker which is based on gps ..fantastic app ..wifi is very useful too ..tv out lets u connect ur phone to large tvs ..like i do on my 29" one ..even play games and can watch those fantastic vga videos recorded with n82 on tv .. its xenon flash is stronger than k850i xenon flash .. its very fast phone with 92 mb usable ram after bootup ..camera is top notch. sound through 3.5 mm jack with creative ep 630 is fantastic .. and not a single person who have seen my silver n82 has termed it "ugly" as most people would make to believe u .. i can go about on and on about n82 ..and there are a heck lot of apps and games on symbian ..not just smart movie etc .. those who have used symbian wont comment like this ..d pad and soft keys of n82 is good to operate ..as well as its keypad ..not a prob at all ...use it and then comment .. n82 is one super all round phone ..the best one till now ..

again its upto u .. just posted this so other can make their choice ..

rohan_mhtr said:
Then why spend 20k for a mobile , if you want to make only calls then you can get yourself nokia 1110 or if you want something from SE then get j110 .

My thoughts exactly,K810i fulfills his whole requirements then. ;-)

krates said:
A 5 Mega Pixel N-Series Star from Nokia which has almost all the features of the N95 8GB but has 1 more great feature - Camera with a Xenon Flash

Yes, the N82 is better than N95 in some aspects...It is faster than N95..

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So it’s that time of year again..

After close to 1.5 years on my trusty Nokia N73 , Its time for n82

Here’s the rap sheet - *developer.nokia.com/devices/N82

For the full flash demo with all the bling, go here
*www.nseries.com/index.html#l=products,n82

So here we go all about n82 !~!
First looks: To describe it in very concise terms, N82 = N95 - slider +
candybar + Xenon flash + light meter + auto tilt + user data protection. Let me
elaborate further.

The N82 has the same candybar form factor as the N73, but with the added
powerful features of the N95. Speakers are located along the right side,
instead of the top and bottom, and the data cable/charger socket have moved to
the left side. The phone uses microUSB and 3.5" audio jacks, instead of
the old proprietary PopPort interface, so this means you can connect any
headphones to it.

Headphone jack is moved to the top, so it can be easily slipped into your shirt
pocket while listening to music. The handsfree supplied unfortunately
is the typical basic one with no music controls. Why couldn’t they supply
the same kind as is given with the music edition phones??
Aesthetics/ergonomics: What’s not to like! Beautiful polished steel look
(not actual steel, like the N91 was). It attracts fingerprints, sure, but I
love the silver gleam. the thin keys are actually fine to type on. The last time such keys were seen were on the N91-and they were hard to press. These ones have the right balance of not being too spongy (like the N73 original) or too hard. They ‘click’ just right, and are easy to type on. However, the pencil key ( a staple on s60 devices) has been removed. The + key now has the options for dictionary etc, and this may take some getting used to. What’s worse- you can’t do multiple select the way you could on earlier phones by using pencil key + arrow keys.

There’s also a dedicated ‘multimedia’ key that works
differently than the older ones. It displays a rolling set of tiles; each tile
showing in order-recent music, videos, quick access to contacts, last photo
taken and so on.

Firmware: As the complexity of Nseries starts to rival computers, bugs
do come out and Nokia has started offering firmware updates that can be
performed at home without having to take the phone to a shop. My base firmware was 10.0.0.46. After reading up on the net, I found that a newer version of the firmware fixes several bugs and makes performance improvements, so I upgraded and now I have 11.0.117. Chances are if you buy this phone later, it may already be updated; you can use Nokia Software Updater (google it) to check the latest version. One nice feature is ‘user data protection’-this means that firmware updates will not wipe the phone memory as they did with earlier phones; your applications, contacts, messages etc remain intact after flashing the firmware.

Responsiveness:

This has to be the Core 2 Duo of
mobile phones. It uses a dual core ARM processor and a dedicated OpenGL
graphics chip. The result? Stunningly fast performance and responsiveness.
Despite all the features, it boots up in less than 15 seconds, and the camera
instantly starts when you open the shutter. The last word- you can play a Symbian port of the old 3D game Quake 1 on this with full graphics and effects !!!

Operating system/look and feel:

The phone, like the N95, uses S60 3rd edition Feature Pack 1. As before-I’ll just highlight the new features here over the base S60 3rd edition OS.

eorganized menus-

Earlier one had to go to separate places to change the theme, ringtone, wallpaper etc. Now they’re all grouped together under a ‘personalization’ menu in settings (though you can use the old way also). A few other menus have also been grouped together/reorganized.

Animated icons- Icons in the menu animate (if you can call sliding towards you, that)
Running app indicator-

The N82 has 120 MB of RAM, which is huge for a mobile device. You can have several apps running, and now a small blue swirl is shown in the menu to indicate that an app is already running in the background.

Timed Bluetooth visibility-

You can specify for how long your phone should appear visible via Bluetooth, after which it reverts to ‘hidden’ mode.

Gallery-
You can save images directly to contacts as their thumbnails from the gallery now.

Unified browser:

In the previous OS, there were 2 browsers ‘Web’ and ‘Services’ for full web and wap, respectively. These have been merged into a single one that recognizes both types of content. It now can store form passwords for websites as well, saving you the hassle of typing it out. Also, since it has wifi support, you can surf the net using wifi instead of your GPRS connection.

Keypad autolock, and repeating alarms!!-

Finally, finally they ported over these features from lower end S40 phones! Why Nokia chose not to have this ability before, I wonder! Caveat: The autolock only works when the phone is in the standby screen, not otherwise. The alarm clock lets you specify working days, and can be set to ring only on those days if needed. Also you can set multiple alarms.

Search:

Imagine having the equivalent of Google Desktop Search on your phone. This is the most awesome application on the phone that I’ve found. It can be invoked from the Active Standby screen, and you can search anything on your phone-be it contacts, messages, emails, calendar entries, by just typing it. No more hunting through menus. You can also search the web, MSN and yahoo are the default search providers (wonder why no Google).

Autotilt:

Like the N95 and the iPhone, this phone also has an accelerometer that detects its orientation. Unlike the N95, it does support auto tilt. Tilting the phone to the left in any mode other than the standby screen causes the display to switch to horizontal/landscape mode. However you need to hold it exactly perpendicular to the ground to work correctly, and it only works if you flip it to the left. You can turn off this behavior too, if you like.

Camera:

According to a web review, the N82 wins hands
down over other 5mp class camera phones in terms of image quality. I totally
agree. The phone also has a lightmeter that vastly improves photo quality under low light conditions. As I mentioned before, the camera starts up immediately on opening the shutter (there’s a small switch for the lens cover on the back). The camera now has a viewfinder grid and extra setting for sharpness, in addition to everything else. Image quality lives upto the hype; pity I don’t have examples. A future firmware update promises to add geotagging support via GPS for photos; this means you can embed position information into the photo, so that the location can be indicated on google maps.

SE phones....you cant compare symbian phones to SE !!

yogi7272 said:
hey guys, here are my two cents ..

about k850i - i called it failed product cos it is centered around its 5mp cam which is not substancially better than the competition ..which infact is inferiour to nokia , lg and samsung camera phones.. and to top it all, n82 is not even a dedicated camera phone .. i have not used it at all ..but when sony releases a cybershot k series phone then it has to beat the competition fair & square , which is not the case.. k790i and k750i were leaders in their time.. then , i read a lot about various probs on esato forum.. u can do it urself ..just check that forum ..

@n82 - some people say it has useless features as gps and wifi .. i used a prog called nokia sports tracker which is based on gps ..fantastic app ..wifi is very useful too ..tv out lets u connect ur phone to large tvs ..like i do on my 29" one ..even play games and can watch those fantastic vga videos recorded with n82 on tv .. its xenon flash is stronger than k850i xenon flash .. its very fast phone with 92 mb usable ram after bootup ..camera is top notch. sound through 3.5 mm jack with creative ep 630 is fantastic .. and not a single person who have seen my silver n82 has termed it "ugly" as most people would make to believe u .. i can go about on and on about n82 ..and there are a heck lot of apps and games on symbian ..not just smart movie etc .. those who have used symbian wont comment like this ..d pad and soft keys of n82 is good to operate ..as well as its keypad ..not a prob at all ...use it and then comment .. n82 is one super all round phone ..best till now ..

again its upto u .. just posted this so other can make their choice ..

off topic
which games u r playing on it

i want fifa for this phone

on the topic this phone has grapics processor and is a good feature too.

see wat if u r buying ur new pc and it has inbuilt wifi.
in that case wifi would be very useful features for the phone.

so i m saying that go with n-82

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Nokia N82 v Sony Ericsson K850i

Below are a few sample pics, taken on the Nokia N82 and the Sony Ericsson K850i. Both phones have a 5.0 megapixel camera, with auto focus, and a Xenon flash. The Nokia Also has a Carl Zeiss Lens. Click on the images to see them in full size. Which do you prefer?

This picture was taken on macro mode:
Nokia N82
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SE K850i
*bp3.blogger.com/_tui5ZcjLf7g/R0NNUG2m4LI/AAAAAAAAAoU/m94pkdi8s7I/s400/DSC00003.jpg

The next two pictures are taken on standard setting:
Nokia N82
*bp0.blogger.com/_tui5ZcjLf7g/R0NOMW2m4MI/AAAAAAAAAoc/HEbyyPolGZE/s400/19112007077.jpg

SE K850i
*bp2.blogger.com/_tui5ZcjLf7g/R0NOk22m4NI/AAAAAAAAAok/Lf494UKD1mU/s400/DSC00006.jpg

Nokia N82
*bp2.blogger.com/_tui5ZcjLf7g/R0NO_22m4OI/AAAAAAAAAos/soF3dINi4rY/s400/19112007078.jpg

SE K850i
*bp0.blogger.com/_tui5ZcjLf7g/R0NPhW2m4PI/AAAAAAAAAo0/p8p_gkDkC30/s400/DSC00007.jpg

I think the results are clear enough. Chalk another one up for the Nokia N82.

Google :

Two devices come to mind instantly - Sony Ericsson K850i and Nokia N82. While the former is certainly easier to carry around (it's smaller), the latter is a smartphone and we all know that opens a whole new world of 3rd-party apps. Still, some people may find all they need in the Sony Ericsson's model. Anyway, we have tons of photos of the two devices standing side by side which will hopefully help choose the device you like better…
*www.intomobile.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/k11.jpg
*www.intomobile.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/k2.jpg
*www.intomobile.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/k3.jpg
*www.intomobile.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/k4.jpg
*www.intomobile.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/k5.jpg
*www.intomobile.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/k6.jpg
*www.intomobile.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/k7.jpg
*www.intomobile.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/k8.jpg
*www.intomobile.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/k9.jpg

Okey guys !
After going through your opinions I am deciding for n82.

Thanks for your opinion guys.

Any idea, how much N82 black would cost here in Siliguri (West Bengal) ?

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Which is worth buying,sony ericsson k850i or nokia n82?

*answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20071125192533AA7NSH8&show=7

Compared to the Sony Ericsson K850i, we think the Nokia N82 is overall a better choice, even if it doesn't support AT&T's HSDPA network (compare specifications). Along with a top-performing 5-megapixel camera, the N82 also comes with Nokia's Mini Map browser, Wi-Fi connectivity and broad file format support for music and video (2GB memory card included). The Nokia N82 also boasts a GPS radio and Nokia Maps. An unlocked Nokia N82 is currently selling for $450 ($350 with a two-year T-Mobile contract).

The Sony Ericsson K850i on the other hand, could be a perfect match for those who require AT&T HSDPA support. Additionally, it's got a top-performing 5-megapixel camera with convenient auto-settings, and a straightforward interface for features such as calling, text messaging and music player (256MB memory card included). The K850i also supports the Opera Mini browser (optional via download), which will provide a decent experience for light mobile Internet browsing (news etc.).

more........more........

Samsung G800, Nokia N82, SE K850i Cameras Compared

The review is an updated comparative analysis of cameras integrated into the top-class products of the large manufacturers’ portfolios. We've already released this sort of articles spotlighting deathmatches between various 5 Mpix handsets, but now we’re going to review a few devices positioned as the best photo-oriented solutions on the market. The matter concerns Samsung G800, Nokia N82 and SonyEricsson K850i. It’s these cameraphones that are most often brought up for discussion, each being the key device for the manufacturer in the year 2008. Besides, they have much in common regarding their cameras.

Let's dwell on camera implementation features in these devices and begin with Samsung G800. The camera module utilized by G800 isn't something extraordinary, yet it puts the quality in the first place. It lacks dedicated controls such as a camera launch button or a mode switching slider found with K850i. There is no gallery button like with N82 either, but the available features are reasonably located and perfectly implemented. The camera button is middle-sized, both smooth and tight to push and very comfortable in general. The volume control rocker button is found nearby, also functioning as the zoom button. Its location is almost ideal, which contributes a lot to the high ergonomics of the G800 camera. In contrast to K850i the keypad doesn't feature any important camera function symbols placed on the keypad buttons - though that doesn't mean that the keys can't be used as shortcuts to those. For instance, the 1 key switches the shooting mode, the * key turns on the flashlight, etc. The thing we didn’t like in hardware implementation of the G800 camera is a protective cover. It sticks out above the surface for about 2 mm (the thickness is 18.5 at that spot) which is even more than with N95. The opening mechanism is too tight, and no finger rest is provided for - in some cases it's the sliding mechanism that opens instead of the cover, the situation is similar to the problem observed with the K770i model which suffers from a similar problem. The viewfinder of G800 beats the N82 model easily, let alone the K850i. The software algorithm used for transmitting the picture from camera to the screen is far above than just good, the powerful Quallcomm platform doing its best. Maybe Samsung lose a tiny bit of their authority by engaging a third party in supplying them with hardware, but this has a large positive effect on performance capabilities.

Hardware:

Let's dwell on camera implementation features with these devices and begin with Samsung G800. The camera module utilized by G800 isn't something extraordinary, yet it has the quality in the first place. It lacks dedicated controls such as a camera launch button or a mode switching slider found with K850i. There is no gallery button like with N82 either, but the available features are reasonably located and perfectly implemented. The camera button is middle-sized, both smooth and tight to push and very comfortable in general. The volume control rocker button is found nearby, also functioning as the zoom button. Its location is almost ideal, which contributes a lot to the high ergonomics of the G800 camera. In contrast to K850i the keypad doesn't feature any important camera function symbols placed on the keypad buttons - though that doesn't mean that the keys can't be used as shortcuts to those. For instance, the 1 key switches the shooting mode, the * key turns on the flashlight, etc. The thing we didn’t like in hardware implementation of the G800 camera is a protective cover. It sticks out above the surface for about 2 mm (the thickness is 18.5 at that spot) which is even more than with N95. The opening mechanism is too tight, and no finger rest is provided for - in some cases it's the sliding mechanism that opens instead of the cover, the situation is similar to the problem observed with the K770i model which suffers from a similar problem. The viewfinder of G800 beats the N82 model easily, let alone the K850i. The software algorithm used for transmitting the picture from camera to the screen is far above than just good, the powerful Quallcomm platform doing its best. Maybe Samsung lose a tiny bit of their authority by engaging a third party in supplying them with hardware, but this has a large positive effect on performance capabilities.

SonyEricsson K850i hasn't got a protective cover; the lens is covered with a glass which should be wiped prior to every shooting session. The xenon flashlight location isn’t smart enough, you can easily block it with your hand, but instead there is a camera mode switch button – the handset employs a three-position slide button switching between Photo, Video and Gallery. A separate camera button is also available though it doesn’t make a big difference, more likely being the cost of the active protective cover lack.

In our opinion Nokia N82 enjoys the most successful protective cover implementation. Its design is most optimal - the lens guard doesn't stick out so it can't be possibly damaged by scratching against the resting surface of the phone (unlike with N95).

Comparison

There is no need to comment on the photos, the quality speaks for itself. Below we give the examples of shots taken at maximal resolution. The xenon flashlight implementation is of utmost interest, for Nokia and Samsung devices can boast of the element for the first time.

Samsung G800 / Nokia N82 / SE K850i

Nighttime outdoors shots

*img.smape.com/images/review/Cameras/N82vsG800vsK850/cams/Samsung_G800_026.jpg
*img.smape.com/images/review/Cameras/N82vsG800vsK850/cams/Nokia_N82_029.jpg

The examples show obvious superiority of the Nokia N82 flashlight comparable to digital cameras in matters of power and principle of operation, which cannot be said about K850i and G800

Examples of shooting indoors

*img.smape.com/images/review/Cameras/N82vsG800vsK850/cams/Samsung_G800_028.jpg
*img.smape.com/images/review/Cameras/N82vsG800vsK850/cams/Nokia_N82_031.jpg

*img.smape.com/images/review/Cameras/N82vsG800vsK850/cams/Samsung_G800_022.jpg
*img.smape.com/images/review/Cameras/N82vsG800vsK850/cams/Nokia_N82_024.jpg

macro shooting samples

*img.smape.com/images/review/Cameras/N82vsG800vsK850/cams/Samsung_G800_009.jpg
*img.smape.com/images/review/Cameras/N82vsG800vsK850/cams/Nokia_N82_011.jpg

At close-up shooting the Samsung G800 flashlight often gives a glare that is clearly visible on some pictures.

At daytime shooting K850i tends to unnatural color rendering and the contrast of its images on the whole leaves much to be desired.

*img.smape.com/images/review/Cameras/N82vsG800vsK850/cams/Samsung_G800_021.jpg
*img.smape.com/images/review/Cameras/N82vsG800vsK850/cams/Nokia_N82_023.jpg

*img.smape.com/images/review/Cameras/N82vsG800vsK850/cams/Samsung_G800_029.jpg
*img.smape.com/images/review/Cameras/N82vsG800vsK850/cams/Nokia_N82_032.jpg

Samsung G800 / Nokia N82 / SE K850i

Conclusion

So, the viewed photos give a perfectly clear idea of the camera potential of these top-class solutions in each manufacturer’s product range. In our subjective opinion Nokia N82 is a doubtless leader in all cases save zooming. K850i ranks last among these photo-oriented flagships. In spite of more than modest results as compared to the other companies’ solutions, K850i is the best SonyEricsson cameraphone at present.

One should mind that all three devices have various additional specifications which include pricing. K850i is the most affordable of the reviewed variants though its price differs from N82 and G800. Don’t you find this situation interesting? For the N82 smartphone with the best camera, a Wi-Fi module, GPS, a TV-output, high ergonomics and the best sales package (2 Gb flash card) such extra price looks justified, and the price policy of Sony Ericsson seems to have gone wrong.

Man, if you still find loads of reasons to buy k series...Search Google....atleast..the more you go..the more you will be confuse!

From my view..I will vote for n82 !!

*www.flickr.com/photos/21179102@N07/

enough of beta softwares...chk these pics...taken by a k850 user unedited..

pics taken by me..unedited...

*flickr.com/photos/22704892@N04/

I just visited themobilestore. I am tempted to get N82.here it costs Rs19400/- (outside it is 18900? I think).N73ME =Rs13000,K810i=10000.

I am a die hard SE fan, but I must say K850is pic quality dont hold any light with comp to n82

@se fanboys - common guys, accept it .. n82 produces better photos than k850i .. and dont tell me crap abt beta firmware and all .. why someone blow 20k on a phone and then wait for better firmware ...stupid thing to do .. for 20k .. n82 is the way to go ..

N73ME -howz this phone?heard it become sluggish after sometime(symbian)?still I am inclined to buy this one

.very confused esp after N82 released.

iatb.gourav said:
Okey guys !
After going through your opinions I am deciding for n82.

Thanks for your opinion guys.

Any idea, how much N82 black would cost here in Siliguri (West Bengal) ?

@Gourav, just have a look at the pics taken by the N82 posted by neeraj....Compare the pics taken by N82 with the ones taken by K850i...The results r in front of u...The pics taken with N82 r brighter and crisper and full of details whereas the ones taken with K850i lack the punch...

N82's cam is just superb and K850i doesn't come anywhere near it....

Go ahead with N82 & u will not regret later....U will get full value for ur money....Superb phone with all features...

^ A bit sluggish. also has a slow proccy. Get a 5700.

pathik:is that reply to me? 5700? well,I want a symbian fone.I cannot afford Rs18500 for N82 sad! but N73M is what I have my eyes on.even my bro-in-law got one N73M from USA.he complains about how slow and sluggish when you press a key and the time needed by fone

the problem is,no other N series fone which I find affordable.

n78 is now available and shipping..and i stanb what i say..bette firmware have been released..and a shootout now will se the k850 as the winner...

newaz..best of luck for ur n82..

m already bored with my k850 anyway..waiting for the c902..next month maybe..

*www.fonearena.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/sony-ericsson-c902.jpg

^^ C902 looks great and its slim. Its just 10.5mm....If they could have included Wi-fi then it would have been a little better but considering the form factor, this fone is great.
Those 8 camera touch keys look good.....I think they trimmed down the screen size to 2 inches because of this. + a nice 160MB internal memory...

praka123 said:
N73ME -howz this phone?heard it become sluggish after sometime(symbian)?still I am inclined to buy this one .very confused esp after N82 released.

N73 is a great VFM phone. It has an excellent 3.2 MP AF camera, good music player & s60 v3 i.e OS 9.1 which is a good OS. The phone is slow for sure but the newer firmwares have made it fast.

I would strongly suggest a Nokia 5700 for you. It has a fastest proccy working at 369mhz, which make the phone breezy. The sound is good if you pair it with good headphones like Creative EP-630.Has s60 v3 FP1 i.e OS 9.2 The only bad thing about this phone is it's 2MP camera, which is average. In night time it's almost useless.

If you own a good camera then go for 5700. I think you have naa W810i??

^yeah.I experimented with w810i and returned.now freshly into market for a new fone.
My first priority is a 3MP camera and Symbian(or UIQ).I know that N73M is the only option I have.
so 5700 is out,otherwise a good fone.
tell me,which SE fone in my budget got 3MP cam?except k810i and k790i ofcourse

see:
*www.symbian.com/phones/index.html

and how is the performance after the newest firmware upgrade in N73M?should I care for date of manufacture for this fone when I buy?

praka123 said:
tell me,which SE fone in my budget got 3MP cam?except k810i and k790i ofcourse

K770i has got 3.15 mp cam and it retails for 12k.Any thoughts on N81,it has got everything expect the cam which is crap.

*www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_k770-2052.php

^^ @Praka: N73 production will officially cease in a few months.. Its on the verge of death.. Better settle for some of the newer phones.

@thread starter- u think u will get bored with n82 .. r u joking ? dude ..take a decision and get ur phone .. yeh k850 vs n82 ..bore kar diya..

@praka - get n78 .. perfect phone for u .. provided its in 15k and below range ..n73 do get slow with time ..

prasad_den said:
^^ @Praka: N73 production will officially cease in a few months.. Its on the verge of death.. Better settle for some of the newer phones.

hey!what man

I just finalized on it and ..

Are you sure?Will you show me some link?

also I just read this:

According to Nokia this software version includes support for mobile TV (when used with SU-33W receiver) and Express Mail clients. This release also includes updates and improvements to Nokia Maps and improved Java support.

You can get it using the Nokia Software Updater App in Windows. If you don't have that app, you can get it here: *www.nokiausa.com/A4410025

*www.mobiletechreview.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Number=30261

praka123 said:
hey!what man I just finalized on it and .. Are you sure?Will you show me some link?

also I just read this:

*www.mobiletechreview.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Number=30261

Will try to find a link... meanwhile, chieck in some other mobile forums too.. I'm pretty sure of the news.

I cannot believe this!this fone is definitely got lot of followers and in great demand man!

even I am searching for all terms "n73 cease,n73 production stop etc

no results yet.

//Offtopic

praka123 said:
I cannot believe this!this fone is definitely got lot of followers and in great demand man!
even I am searching for all terms "n73 cease,n73 production stop etc no results yet.

N78 is the replacement for N73....N78 has got the latest Symbian OS 9.2...

Anyways, if you want you can wait for G700 from SE which has Symbian UIQ and will bring the touch-screen experience to mid-range mobiles.....

Well, still I'm not sure about the price but its going to be ~15K i.e. around the price of N78 *www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_g700-2248.php
\\Offtopic

N78 is available only in selected cities in India???? anyways Kochi is listed.
and Are you sure it is below 15K?.Is it worth the investment for another 3 years atleast ?

praka123 said:
N78 is available only in selected cities in India???? anyways Kochi is listed.
and Are you sure it is below 15K?.Is it worth the investment for another 3 years atleast ?

Yes, its features are worth the investment for another 3 years but wait again for some time.....

But I'll advise you to further wait for 3-4 months until reviews come out about the performance of N78.....

As you can see, both SE and Nokia are launching mobiles in the current months, so considering the scenario, you should surely wait.....After some time you'll surely get to know which mobile from which company will be good for you....

@gagan: do you know when N73 production ceases?
*www.nokiausers.net/General/N78-The-True-N73-Successor.html

praka123 said:
@gagan: do you know when N73 production ceases?
*www.nokiausers.net/General/N78-The-True-N73-Successor.html

Well, I expect to cease it after 1-2 months when Nokia N78 gets some amount of share in the market...Probably in August/September....

And after the production ends, the price of N73 is surely going to drop.....

anyways,N78 is available in Kochi!so what worries?the que is ,is it below 15k

also withing 15K,is there any possibility of getting a 5MP phone?

FM-transmitter,gps and nokia maps are super cool(N78)

ya there is a LG phone below 15k having 5 MP but it's image quality is worse then N73 check out gsmarena under n73 there will be a comparison between a lg phone , n73, K790i < somethin like that

praka123 said:
anyways,N78 is available in Kochi!so what worries?the que is ,is it below 15k

also withing 15K,is there any possibility of getting a 5MP phone?

FM-transmitter,gps and nokia maps are super cool(N78)

LG KG920 is the cheapest 5mp camera phone for 10-11K........

But don't consider this fone...

Samsung G600 is another 5mp fone available for 15K, I think.....

Anyways Prakash, don't demand anything more because you'll be again exceeding your budget.....I've seen it exceeding from 7K to 11K now 15K.....N78 is cool and especially that FM Transmitter......

^I am doubtful of the N78 price.Is it really available for ~15K?

yeah,my budget is slowly increasing :twisted:

had to stop here.

lol just buy N73 ME and sell it after a year for 8k - 9k and i told you that W810I is the worst phone ever created by SE my brother using it somehow lol

the n78 is priced at 450 euroes in the UK presently..

lol N78 is priced too high right now and n73 ME is just 200 euro

yeah!see it is Rs25K almost!
*www.fonearena.com/nokia-n78_690.html

So,I have to satisfy with N73 or some other good camera phone below 13K

amd64_man2005 said:
the n78 is priced at 450 euroes in the UK presently..

OMG......1 EURO = Rs.65...

N78 = 450 * 65 = 29250...... :shock:

just be satisfied with N73 ME as i am (it has got a cool cam, style is just packed with it too) i will be buying my next phone next year with a budget of 30k approx agar 10th mein 90% aa gaye ton lol

*www.fonearena.com/nokia-6220-classic_689.html

hey when is the above listed phone going to be released ?

well

I have no other option currently.I am thinking of delaying the purchase for getting N82

.I hope in 3 months time N82 will come under 16k? (dreams

)

i don't think N82 prices will decrease that much in a mere 3 months it can be 6-7 months

hmm... now it is SE k810i which is inside my budget.but baddie doesnt have zoom feature although it got a 3MP fone :evil:

anyother options?also Is there any problem with support if I buy N73M?

also guys howz motorola fones?the one with symbian forks?with a 3MP or better cam?under 13K?any ideas?

...sorry @OTS for hijacking this thread

^^^moto UIQs havent been released yet..will do with the z8...

u can luk for the E8 if u want style....but i prefer the w890 if u want a good phone in ur given budget...has an awesum cam..9mm thick and is a walkman...if u wanna click sum pics..go for the k810 or the k770..

^I have Just PMed you reg the same ! :lol:

.Now I am with K810i or N73 .My first priority is camera with best zoom features.second is build-quality.

I read here that N73 production's gonna cease soon

.Now I want a UIQ fone,but my budget doesnot allow this.
also K810i lacks EDGE na?

if i can get used to the keypad then even I don't have a problem buying N82. I will have a computer at home but won't mind having one in pocket.

if i can get used to the keypad then even I don't have a problem buying N82. I will have a computer at home but won't mind having one in pocket.

Prakash, don't buy symbian on Nokia. it has DRM inbuilt, has a monopoly over Mobile phone OS & is closed source. buy motorokr E6 or Razr V8 based on Linux, go the FOSS, support FOSS, jai freedom

well..the k810 is the best 3.2 mp cam out there..but i still pefer the g700 when u ask for it..it has something that nokia asnt been able to make during the years..touchscreen..a real treat....wait and let this abbe hit the stores..

I have no idea whether N73 production will stop or not but even if it does the present owners of the phone have nothing to worry about. The phone will continue to get support from Nokia in case there is some problem with it. Nokia has also just launched a firmware upgrade for N73, so that's not a problem as well. Plus N73 is a very popular phone. After the production stops (if it ever does), the demand for second hand phones will increase. So if you've bought a N73 now you'll get a very good price if you decide to sell it later on. N73 itself is a very good phone with an excellent camera, good display, fantastic loudspeakers and great features including Symbian OS.

N78 might be the replacement for N73 but that does not necessarily mean that Nokia will stop the production of N73. N73 was also supposedly the replacement for N70 but N70 continued to sell even after the arrival of N73. As for the price itself, there is absolutely no way that the price of N78 will be higher than the price of N82/N95. If my guess is correct, it'll cost around 17-18k initially and drop down to 16k in a months time. Going for N78 instead of N73 makes sense, but only if the budget allows. Otherwise N73 is a good phone on its own.

@thread starter - phone liya or still confused ?

@amd- its amazing that u always find some fault in nokia phones whereas praise even the simplest se phones .. keep it up ..

on a sidenote - just follow this thread comparing se c902 vs nokia 6220

*www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=170105

and mini review of black n82

*3lib.ukonline.co.uk/sshow/ss59.html

ya why will a 13k phone production will stop with the arrival of 25k phone that sound funny and in a year or two it's price is going to be decreased to 13k

krates said:
ya why will a 13k phone production will stop with the arrival of 25k phone that sound funny and in a year or two it's price is going to be decreased to 13k

It won't be 25k. Do you really think Nokia will price a phone with 3mp camera at 25k when N82/N95 with 5mp cameras are priced at 20k? If Nokia has to sell N78, it'll have to be priced below N82.

yogi7272 said:
on a sidenote - just follow this thread comparing se c902 vs nokia 6220

*www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=170105

Thank you for providing that link. I guess it is now very clear that Nokia indeed is ahead of SE when it comes to camera quality. And I know some people will try to give excuses that C902 had an older beta firmware, but then so does 6220c.

N

Nokia India website no longer shows N78 in the upcoming category. Its being shown in current phones now.
That means it shouldn't be too long before we see N78 in stores.

The n78 should be available in 15-18k. At launch. and the n81 price should go down further.

arrey leave @first poster

what have you decided are going with NOKIA or SE

@yogi..thank u..always better to follow the truth..

u have any idea when nokia will come out with a touch screen phone except perhaps the TUBE ..thts slower than the 1st generation symbian...

and please..when u r referring to esato..please the link the k850 pic section too...i know ur not sport enuf to do that..but its ok...

on esato only a guy named planktan or something gets good pictures from his k850i ..who very much sounds like a fanboy to me .. how on earth all sites found k850i way below than competition and only few guys like u say its better ..u must have some special skill .. k850i is a failed product for se ..it has only tarnished the cybershot image set by k790i/k800i .. and now coming to c902 which even lacks xenon flash .. what is se thinking?

and i am no nokia fanboy ..i dont give a damn abt nokia touch screen or how fast or when it will come out ..the phone i wanted is in my hands ..n82 ...not thinking abt any other phone for a long long time ..

i found something interesting ..

*www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=170009

If all that you need is looks, go for LG viewty. super cool looks but even this one can't beat N82 when it comes to performance. and it certainly looks better than K850i. Looks good. Looks super. Looks great.

yogi7272 said:
and i am no nokia fanboy ..i dont give a damn abt nokia touch screen or how fast or when it will come out ..the phone i wanted is in my hands ..n82 ...not thinking abt any other phone for a long long time ..

arree yogi , who are you arguing with , everyone in this forum knows that this amd guy is not going to stop supporting SE no matter how good or bad the product is . So stop wasting your time and just read his posts and laugh .
And by the way you are from vashi (mumbai) ? me too from vashi sector 14 .

^^^@rohan-m laughing at ur frustration at not being abe to provide proofs..if a single reply of mine can take in more than 10 posts in a thread...well..i guess mbeing ignored..LOLZZ...doesnt matter...me being a loner in this forum doesnt help the cause in anyway...

u r referring to esato coz its an SE forum..sad that nokia doesnt have any forum to itself..

anyways before comparing the k850 to any toher phone..please compare the n82 too...doesnt seem like the n82 will do any better tho...

well,K810 is one fone I am interested with.
I dont want to buy n73 now(Esp after rumors of cease).
@gxsaurav

athetic logic

good choice praka,but make sure you are comfortable with the keypad

*www.flickr.com/photos/virgilefontaine/

a few pics by the c902 with the next beta firmware..and i m sure this will be ignored.lol..

btw..there are more guys to plankto in the forum who takes good pics..including myself...still to see a blasting n82 pic...

@praka-gud choice..the best cam phone out there yet...

amd64_man2005 said:
^^^@rohan-m laughing at ur frustration at not being abe to provide proofs..if a single reply of mine can take in more than 10 posts in a thread...well..i guess mbeing ignored..LOLZZ...doesnt matter...me being a loner in this forum doesnt help the cause in anyway...

u r referring to esato coz its an SE forum..sad that nokia doesnt have any forum to itself..

What proof ?? does anyone needs any proofs to proove that n82 is better then k850 , no way . And as for nokia forum , it is allready launched , sad that u dont know about it .
again laughing at you .And well , i am mentioning again ( I am not a nokia fan)

sorry but nokia has already released touch screen phones

for example

*www.nokia-asia.com/A4416876
*www.fonearena.com/nokia-7710_190.html

*www.noeman.org/gsm/news/11539-nokia-touchscreen-mobile-6708-a.html

and what about

*www.indiagsm.com/admin/thimg/sonyericsson_w850i_lr_1.jpg

available for 19500 w850i don't know much about it

^^and??y was it discontinued then??i guess coz it was the most sluggish experience peaple had ever had..

@rohan-the only thing that comes to my mind now is..

a quote from guru.."Jab Log tumhare khilaf bolne lage to samajh jaao ki tarakki kar rahe ho ..."

krates said:
sorry but nokia has already released touch screen phones

for example

*www.nokia-asia.com/A4416876
*www.fonearena.com/nokia-7710_190.html

*www.noeman.org/gsm/news/11539-nokia-touchscreen-mobile-6708-a.html

and what about

*www.indiagsm.com/admin/thimg/sonyericsson_w850i_lr_1.jpg

available for 19500 w850i don't know much about it

Nokia made a couple of touch screen phones in the past but they were all crap. As for the phone in the pic, it is W850i and it is has been discontinued. Its 3G less, EDGE enabled sibling W830i is available without bill in some stores. It has been replaced by W580i.

Guys, can you all please put you honest opinion and rate both N82 Black & K850i in a scale of 1 to 10 in the following specifications:

1. Camera :
2. Looks :
3. Ease of Keypad :
4. Music :
5. Loudness :
6. Battery Life :
7. Value for money :

N82:
1. Camera : 9/10
2. Looks : 8/10
3. Ease of Keypad : 7/10
4. Music : 8/10
5. Loudness : 7/10
6. Battery Life : 9/10
7. Value for money : 10/10

K850:

1. Camera : 6/10
2. Looks : 7/10
3. Ease of Keypad : 8/10
4. Music : 8/10
5. Loudness : 7/10
6. Battery Life : 8/10
7. Value for money : 6/10

iatb.gourav said:
Guys, can you all please put you honest opinion and rate both N82 Black & K850i in a scale of 1 to 10 in the following specifications:

1. Camera :
2. Looks :
3. Ease of Keypad :
4. Music :
5. Loudness :
6. Battery Life :
7. Value for money :

dude, dont waste ur time .. n82 is the way to go .. why such needless comparison with a cybershit phone..

@rohan_mhtr - me from sec 9.. i know abt amd ..but the way he projects his k850i is simply funny like beta firmware and stable firmware etc..why one would buy a phone with beta firmware and then hope for stable firmware to release ... everyone knows his a big se fanboy..but sometime he does it too much ..

N82
Camera-9/10
Looks-8/10
Ease of keypad-6/10
Music-8/10
Loudness-7/10
Battery life-7/10
Value for money-10/10

K850i
Camera-7/10
Looks-9/10
Ease of keypad-7/10
Music-8/10
Loudness-8/10
Battery life-8/10
Value for money-7/10

N82

Camera-9/10
Looks-7/10
Ease of keypad-7/10
Music-9/10
Loudness-8/10
Battery life-8/10
Value for money-10/10

K850i

Camera-6/10
Looks-9/10
Ease of keypad-8/10
Music-8/10
Loudness-7/10
Battery life-8/10
Value for money-6/10

just go and get n82 check out the thread about which mobile you wanna own n82 has got the highest points

N82
1. Camera :8/10
2. Looks :6/10
3. Ease of Keypad :5/10
4. Music :7/10
5. Loudness :6/10
6. Battery Life :4/10
7. Value for money :8/10
-----------------------------------
SE K850i
1. Camera :6/10
2. Looks :7/10
3. Ease of Keypad :5/10
4. Music :7/10
5. Loudness :7/10
6. Battery Life :7/10
7. Value for money :6/10

huh!!!loudness n82 greater than k850??..LOLzzz..

dude gaurav..most of the peaple who are voting havent touched either of the phones here...and peaple who own the n82 wont support the k850 and vice versa..just do what ur heart says..if u want the k850 go for it..if n82 ..theres no one stopping you...

excuse me yogi-but the k850 has been in stores for 5 months and in the meantime there have been 5 firmware updates..funny how u can go lengths to downside a phone..

and btw..see how people rate the music quality in the n82 higher than the k850...lolzz...upto u now..u will never get an unbiased review here..either from me or from anybody...

@iatb.gourav - Why r u so confused? Just take a decision man...N82 is the way 2 go and the most popular phone...
Go 4 it...

confusion --courtesy of amd ..hee hee

and that k850i pict thread at esato is indeed impressive ..but the thing is that whenever its been compared to n82 , it falls short .. never the less those pictures are very impressive ..

also why a new phone would need 5 major firmware updates in 5 months only ?
firmware can never substitute weak lens ..

getting bored now with this useless fight .. threadstarter- tu phone kab lega ?

Just have a look at the following:

*cellphoneforums.net/sony-ericsson/t271025-k850i-nightmare.html

(K850i nightmare)

N82 is the way 2 go or keep waiting 4 that firmware which will improve K850i's cam(which will never happen as then also N82 will b better)....

^^^compared to n82???where???...i guess theres a pic thread i esato where the k850 performs better..want me to link that ??? i have hardly come across any comparison pics with the latest firmwares...the R1EAO37...
newaz...

btw..here is another phone u can look forward to..

Gsmarena preview

the c902

sample pics with the most recent beta software...

*www.flickr.com/search/?s=rec&w=all&q=c902&m=text

well coz it was not that stable..i hope u guys remember the original n95 and why it was discontinued..newaz..

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I am adding one more item: "Other features like GPS & Wifi" which I feel is essential while comparing these 2 phones.

N82
Camera-10/10
Looks-7/10 (7 For Black & 4 for Platinum)
Ease of keypad-4/10
Music-8/10
Loudness-7/10
Battery life-9/10
Other features like GPS & Wifi - 10/10
Value for money-9/10

K850i
Camera-7/10
Looks-8/10
Ease of keypad-7/10
Music-8/10
Loudness-8/10
Battery life-8/10
Other features like GPS & Wifi - 0/10
Value for money-6/10

nikeel said:
I am adding one more item: "Other features like GPS & Wifi" which I feel is essential while comparing these 2 phones.

N82
Camera-10/10
Looks-7/10 (7 For Black & 4 for Platinum)
Ease of keypad-4/10
Music-8/10
Loudness-7/10
Battery life-9/10
Other features like GPS & Wifi - 10/10
Value for money-9/10

K850i
Camera-7/10
Looks-8/10
Ease of keypad-7/10
Music-8/10
Loudness-8/10
Battery life-8/10
Other features like GPS & Wifi - 0/10
Value for money-6/10

The comparison looks even now...

lolzz..battery life...

btw, Is N96 available now??? What is its price???

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uppalpankaj said:
btw, Is N96 available now??? What is its price???

No. Not yet. Only expected in Q3

Funky thread .

Reported to Nokia and Sony

nobody said about build-quality

:
I have seen many a nokia fones whose metallic body with paint pulled off(by time),sticky keys and more.
ofcourse,SE fones too.but well,they are working gr8 and looks gr8 after a year or so

(many fones esp W series) .

U know abt the concept of pasting....I got my phone pasted for 80 bucks....In this a plastic sheet is stuck on the phone's body with heat...This is totally different from lamination....The phone becomes scratch resistant as scratches occur (if they do occur) only on the plastic sheet then..

So the phone looks totally brand new even after 2 yrs...

I got my K750i 1.8 yrs. back...It looks totally new till date..

build quality of n82 is top notch ..mine survived a very hard fall on ground without any damages ..

...theres no point in debating N82'S camera quality and other things

n82 won the TIPA award
*www.symbian-freak.com/news/008/04/tipa_award_for_nokia_n82.htm

n95 won the same award last year..

camera quality
*www.symbian-guru.com/welcome/2008/02/photography-at-its-finest.html

@gau...the difference is "NOT SLIGHT"

N82 is actually a SMART PHONE will S(h)e's are not...

*www.smartphones-show.com/ ....there is a show with N82 must watch that

..

K850 is the endgadget"editors choice and readers choice phone of the year"

amd64_man2005 said:
K850 is the endgadget"editors choice and readers choice phone of the year"

dude this my personal wish that you get job in nokia

krates said:
dude this my personal wish that you get job in nokia

Then Nokia will go down from being number 1 cell manufacturer to being the worst cell phone manufacturer. Even phones from Intex, Sagem and BenQ-Siemens will sell more than Nokia.

just booked for the new K810i in shop.

.I said booked `coz I asked him to get the latest box.getting today evening 7PM

Price:Rs 10600/-
^Howz the price people? Is it OK?
K810i 10 days back got Rs12000 almost

.see the price slash?

What if amd64 joins SE??....

//Offtopic: How was your JEE??

@Prakash: Congrats.....

//0fftopic.screwd..cudnt clear the subject cutoff for chem i guess..

shud have gt a rank otherwise..

gagandeep said:
What if amd64 joins SE??....

//Offtopic: How was your JEE??

@Prakash: Congrats.....

If he joins SE, then SE is definitely gonna b on the top spot....No handsets will be ever able 2 beat the SE's..Just kidding....

neways, congrats 4 the K810i..... :smile:

Hey, the N82 Black is out of stock in the market here.

What about the rest of the places?

iatb.gourav said:
Hey, the N82 Black is out of stock in the market here.

What about the rest of the places?

I dunno about Siliguri, but it is definitely available out here in my city....Did u check out the Nokia Priority Dealer..

thanks all

but I will get my set only tomorrow.

kya hena...chota shahar mein rahte hein naa..

@uppal:well,in case of FOSS,I am correct only.

No,I wont be a SE/Nokia guy.I may anytime swap fones,if I dont like them

praka123 said:
thanks all but I will get my set only tomorrow. kya hena...chota shahar mein rahte hein naa..
@uppal:well,in case of FOSS,I am correct only.
No,I wont be a SE/Nokia guy.I may anytime swap fones,if I dont like them

What is FOSS? Can u please clarify????

I think someone dont know

FOSS -Free,Open Source Software .for eg: GNU/Linux

Thanks 4 the info.....

I used a friends N82 today & have decided that it is indeed going to be my next phone. Video recording at 640X480 at 15 fps is hard to leave, alongwith Yahoo Go support

uppalpankaj said:
I dunno about Siliguri, but it is definitely available out here in my city....Did u check out the Nokia Priority Dealer..

Yea, I went to the Nokia Priority and the guy there told me that just 1 piece had arrived that morning and that too was sold.
And he didn't have any idea when the next piece would arrive !

I also had a look at the silver one. It's keypad was almost impossible for me to press. Is the case same with the Black one?

^^^^why do think was i hampering about the keypad so much..its all the same..

gx_saurav said:
I used a friends N82 today & have decided that it is indeed going to be my next phone. Video recording at 640X480 at 15 fps is hard to leave, alongwith Yahoo Go support

I think N82 has video recording at 640 x 480 @ 30 fps...Just check it once....

iatb.gourav said:
Yea, I went to the Nokia Priority and the guy there told me that just 1 piece had arrived that morning and that too was sold.
And he didn't have any idea when the next piece would arrive !

I also had a look at the silver one. It's keypad was almost impossible for me to press. Is the case same with the Black one?

so go and get k850i because black n82 will also have the same keypad

lolz...now nokia users r admitting the keypad problem too

gx_saurav said:
lolz...now nokia users r admitting the keypad problem too

I don't think that the keypad is a problem...It is just a matter of getting used 2 it...The keypad has a lot of spacing in between the keys, so the chances of pressing a wrong key are less...

using n82 since december .. no keypad or d pad prob for me . its actually good to use once u get used to it .. video recording is vga@30 fps .not 15fps ..

i thought he has got long finger that is why he is unable to type

and you know n73 has got more screwed up keys but after using for that many days i am comfortable with the key pad

I heard many ppl dont like K810i's keypad with round metallic buttons

.well I liked it!it is easy for me

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uppalpankaj said:
I don't think that the keypad is a problem...It is just a matter of getting used 2 it...The keypad has a lot of spacing in between the keys, so the chances of pressing a wrong key are less...

Its not just about not pressing a wrong key. The question is the comfort factor.

If u use a N82 for a few days...... & then lay your hands on other mobiles such as good old Nokia 6600 or Nokia 6233 or Nokia 5700....... u know what u r missing in the N82.

nikeel said:
Its not just about not pressing a wrong key. The question is the comfort factor.

If u use a N82 for a few days...... & then lay your hands on other mobiles such as good old Nokia 6600 or Nokia 6233 or Nokia 5700....... u know what u r missing in the N82.

but then there r so many other features in the N82 that I believe will not let any one miss 6600/6233/5700 at all....The N82 is very feature rich....

uppalpankaj said:
but then there r so many other features in the N82 that I believe will not let any one miss 6600/6233/5700 at all....The N82 is very feature rich....

+9

gx_saurav said:
I used a friends N82 today & have decided that it is indeed going to be my next phone. Video recording at 640X480 at 15 fps is hard to leave, alongwith Yahoo Go support

It records Video at 30 fps.

dude, if u use n82 for few days then any other mobile will feel like garbage .. i dont even toch my mom's nokia 6233 ..

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I am not questioning the features of the N82 nor comparing it with outdated mobiles like 6600, 5700 or 6233.

Its just that the keypad is the most used part of the mobile and having an uncomfortable keypad takes away some of the fun of having a N82.

nikeel said:
Its just that the keypad is the most used part of the mobile and having an uncomfortable keypad takes away some of the fun of having a N82.

True !

In fact, keypad easy depends on person to person. Like, I am very comfortable with the keypad of K810 or K850 whereas a lot of people are not.

BTW, guys, the N82 Black is just not available out here. Seems, I'll have to go with K850i.
Any issues of hanging etc in K850i ???

iatb.gourav said:
True !

In fact, keypad easy depends on person to person. Like, I am very comfortable with the keypad of K810 or K850 whereas a lot of people are not.

BTW, guys, the N82 Black is just not available out here. Seems, I'll have to go with K850i.
Any issues of hanging etc in K850i ???

Go for the K850i dude...Don't think much....Just go 4 it....

go for what you will be happy with...ur call now..cheers..

thats obvious.

i just wanted your suggestions !

yesterday got my brand new K810i -nice fone.admiring it now

praka123 said:
yesterday got my brand new K810i -nice fone.admiring it now

Post some pictures taken by your K810 in that Picture thread.........

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heehe I started reading this thread queit late, a good comparision, and using word brick,
in my words all nokias' are bricks because they are of much solid make than any of the SE, and I say regardless of the fact I use SE K550, but guys if its just like that comparing good eye candy design then samsung and LG are better than nokia or even samsung.

so buddy gourav, its upto you as uppalpankaj said earlier with a very good and neat comparision what you wanna buy, after reading through suggestions, because any problem comes up its your head which will be tensed we would be just helping out.

and for my words, N82 being Symbian and equally priced to K850, is better, because after paying so much you will like to keep your phone atleast 2 years, and by that time you yourself would not know what apps you loaded, and symbian will be really able to handle things well.

Even then with good java base support and cool designed K850 you wont regret, keypads of nowadays mobile are good(keypads of 5500 sport is what no company would wanna repeat), and you can get used to them quick and easy. and light weightness of K850 would make it have even better feel in your hands.

Good Luck in whatever you buy.

Well Gourav, G900 has been released, though it is not available in India and its price is 500$.....

See its spec:
*www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_g900-2247.php

It is Symbian UIQ with 2.4inch Touchscreen.....5mp camera with Flash & AutoFocus and it also has Wi-fi....

The keypad aint a problem. Maybe, if you have Huge-Ogre like fingers.

But not normally. You will get used to it. BTW praka, why did you sell your w810i to get a k810i. ??

^I dont.I "bought"(as in,I dont gave the money!

) that w810i from a friend,it is scratchless and in very good condition.but I want a new mobile and especially one with 3MP or more.so gave him back.he wants me to sell it online.and that failed miserably due to confusions and my difficulty in explaining things properly

K810i fits the best.its cam is cybershot.pics are brilliant in quality.but for music,it bundles only HPM_62

.
I liked the round keys in K810i

.
Do I need to update firmware using SEUS?

also,I dont want to have scratches on the lens and all.any tips?already using a crystal cover

here are some pics I took using my poor logitech webcam of my K810i :-
*img3.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/1975/1975095-holder-7b92a3c9a6f64919d38eb0ce24c2b761.jpg*img1.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/1975/1975096-holder-0c52c277e0bdf0589ba24d0a5dc4f0f2.jpg

where are the pics ?

coming soon to "the photo thread"

praka123 said:
^I dont.I "bought"(as in,I dont gave the money! ) that w810i from a friend,it is scratchless and in very good condition.but I want a new mobile and especially one with 3MP or more.so gave him back.he wants me to sell it online.and that failed miserably due to confusions and my difficulty in explaining things properly

K. Then it's alrite. BTW, I know of your goof ups. TE right? Busted by Gary

I wanted to lay my hands on N82 before buying. But since it's out of stock, I am helpless.

So, I'll be getting the K850i ....

Can anyone tell me it's current price?

gagandeep said:
Well Gourav, G900 has been released, though it is not available in India and its price is 500$.....

See its spec:
*www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_g900-reviews-2247.php

It is Symbian UIQ with 2.4inch Touchscreen.....5mp camera with Flash & AutoFocus and it also has Wi-fi....

When will the G900 be available in India...Btw, I clicked upon the above link and found out the first user of G900 complaining about this phone...And does it really have Wifi??
Seems like a beautiful piece...

@Gourav,
N82 19.2k here. Just checked out today in a shop. BTW you can wait if it's out of stock. The black one is the hot favourite nowadays and its not surprising it's out of stock. Remember: Sabra Ka Phal Meetha Hota Hai

This thread is really rocking...I tell u....Hee hee...

First v did a great comparison between K850i and N82 convincing Gourav...But u know what??? Gourav is not convinced after 200 posts also...

Doesn't really matter....@Gourav - U must just buy whatever ur heart says...K850i OR N82...After all yaar its just a phone....You have to use whatever u buy and its your satisfaction that matters the most...V r just here 2 help u make the right decision...

Your choice. No point spending 20k on a fone half heartedly.

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iatb.gourav said:
I wanted to lay my hands on N82 before buying. But since it's out of stock, I am helpless.

So, I'll be getting the K850i ....

Can anyone tell me it's current price?

Don't buy the K850i just bcos the N82 is out of stock !!!

It would render this wonderful thread meaningless :))

uppalpankaj said:
This thread is really rocking...I tell u....Hee hee...

First v did a great comparison between K850i and N82 convincing Gourav...But u know what??? Gourav is not convinced after 200 posts also...

Doesn't really matter....@Gourav - U must just buy whatever ur heart says...K850i OR N82...After all yaar its just a phone....You have to use whatever u buy and its your satisfaction that matters the most...V r just here 2 help u make the right decision...

nikeel said:
Don't buy the K850i just bcos the N82 is out of stock !!!

It would render this wonderful thread meaningless

I've been waiting for over 2 months now to get my new phone. That's why I am a little restless.
But, I think you guys are right (as usual) !
I should wait for some more time till N82 Black arrives !

BTW, on a personal note, after laying my hands on the silver one, I doubt whether the Black one looks as good as the pictures show !!!

wow! after so much brain storming over these two phones ..it finally comes down to which one is available in ur area ... what a funny situation .. anyways , wait for black n82 ..

also its good that so many people contributed to this thread so in future, it will help other prospective buyers to make their decision wisely ..

Yes exactly ... at first I was wondering that was "N82 vs K850" really worth such a 200+ posts discussion ?
Then I felt that at least it'll help others buying a phone.

Anyways, I was going through the reviews of SE C902. Any comments guys ?

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iatb.gourav said:
Anyways, I was going through the reviews of SE C902. Any comments guys ?

Nahi !!! Not again !!!!!

I can see a further 200 posts being added to this thread now :))

LOLzzz.....yea the C902 is a great phone..has tv-out too..check out this preview and chill out..can try the g900 too if you want..

*www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_c902-review-223.php

iatb.gourav said:
BTW, on a personal note, after laying my hands on the silver one, I doubt whether the Black one looks as good as the pictures show !!!

Check out this Flickr photostream:
*www.flickr.com/photos/centrinos/page9/

Page 10, 11, 12, 13, 14 have more pics of black N82. Actually I'll recommend going through the entire photostream. This guy has a great collection of pics taken with N82, N95 8GB, E90 and N93i.

*www.flickr.com/photos/21179102@N07/

pics taken by a guy with the k850..

Hi guys
I was thinking of buying a phone (budget strictly less than 20k)

I currently have an N73me, so i want something better than this.
I am hearing a lot of praises for N82.......so should i buy this phone.

Any opinions and suggestions highly appreciated.

nikeel said:
Nahi !!! Not again !!!!!

I can see a further 200 posts being added to this thread now

I don't see any harm in discussing.

If you do then please tell us.

krazzy said:
Check out this Flickr photostream:
*www.flickr.com/photos/centrinos/page9/

Page 10, 11, 12, 13, 14 have more pics of black N82. Actually I'll recommend going through the entire photostream. This guy has a great collection of pics taken with N82, N95 8GB, E90 and N93i.

I was referring to the look of the phone and not about it's cam.
Almost all reviews agree that N82 has a better (or at least equal) cam as compared to K850 !

n82 has better cam than any other 5mp camera phone ..period .. proved by my reviews online ..no point debating this .. someone could post a good pic taken with other phones ..but when those phones are compared head on with n82 with the same conditions, then u will find n82 way better ..

those looking for upgrading from n73me, n82 is the way to go..

yogi7272 said:
n82 has better cam than any other 5mp camera phone ..period .. proved by my reviews online ..no point debating this .. someone could post a good pic taken with other phones ..but when those phones are compared head on with n82 with the same conditions, then u will find n82 way better ..

those looking for upgrading from n73me, n82 is the way to go..

Thanks yogi for replying.

How about the speed of the phone. Symbian phones are a bit slow and my N73 is no exception.

Also the speakers are on the right side of the phone............will it affect anything

Please help.

yup n82 has got the best 5MP cam

and C902 is really new wait for 2-3 months for reviews and complaints

Power UP said:
Thanks yogi for replying.

How about the speed of the phone. Symbian phones are a bit slow and my N73 is no exception.

Also the speakers are on the right side of the phone............will it affect anything

Please help.

The N82 is really very fast coz' it is equipped with ARM 11 332 MHz proccy..There is no time lag at all...

the c 902 is the sexiest 5 mp phone on planet earth..10 mm thick...8 touch buttons..uber cool...its more for the fashion savvy and the new age youth...

dude wait if you can wait for some days more because k850i prices are expected to be dropped very soon as soon as C902 hit the indian market

and in c902 i can't find anything better except for the Touch screen

no wifi,no gps

iatb.gourav said:
I was referring to the look of the phone and not about it's cam.
Almost all reviews agree that N82 has a better (or at least equal) cam as compared to K850 !

Dude did you even visit the link I gave you? I gave the link because there were many pics of the black N82 there. I didn't give for you to see the camera pics (which are also there). Go and see the link again and see the next few pages of that photostream for more pics of black N82.

uppalpankaj said:
The N82 is really very fast coz' it is equipped with ARM 11 332 MHz proccy..There is no time lag at all...

Thanks thats good to hear.
And what about the speakers on the right side

amd64_man2005 said:
the c 902 is the sexiest 5 mp phone on planet earth..10 mm thick...8 touch buttons..uber cool...its more for the fashion savvy and the new age youth...

Hi amd
Do you know how much will the c 902 be priced and when will it arrive.

Power UP said:
Thanks yogi for replying.

How about the speed of the phone. Symbian phones are a bit slow and my N73 is no exception.

Also the speakers are on the right side of the phone............will it affect anything

Please help.

i used to have n73me ..when at last june i saw specks of n82,,i knew it would my next phone ..it has everything n73 lacks and few more ..very fast..n73 is no comparison ..only drawback u will find is those speakers are not as loud as n73 ones ..and obviously looks ..n73 look better ..

face detection is a just a gimmick .. nothing to do with picture quality ..companies should focus more on quality optics than these features ..

amd now promoting c902 .. hee hee..

krates said:
dude wait if you can wait for some days more because k850i prices are expected to be dropped very soon as soon as C902 hit the indian market

and in c902 i can't find anything better except for the Touch screen

no wifi,no gps

have i said its a smartphone..if you want all those..go for the G900...

oh did i mention.. The C902 has FACE DETECTON!!. .beat that...

the c902 will be availlable by june 15th i guess..

the g900 has touch focus..just touch the point on the screen you want to focus on..and it will focus there.. cool..

yogi7272 said:
i used to have n73me ..when at last june i saw specks of n82,,i knew it would my next phone ..it has everything n73 lacks and few more ..very fast..n73 is no comparison ..only drawback u will find is those speakers are not as loud as n73 ones ..and obviously looks ..n73 look better ..

amd now promoting c902 .. hee hee..

Yogi anything about speakers on the right side.......will it affect the listening experience

Please i am really skeptical about this speaker thing.

i dont think it will have any effect

according to the reviews if you hold the phone while listening to music then only it will effect your listening experience

girish.g said:
i dont think it will have any effect

And how about the TV-out feature.........will i be able to play nokia (java/symbian) games on Tv screen.

Power UP said:
Yogi anything about speakers on the right side.......will it affect the listening experience

Please i am really skeptical about this speaker thing.

i find it stupid design to place both speakers on same side of the phone ..as i said n82 speakers are not as loud as n73 ones ..about 60% of n73 speakers .. they placed it on right side ..so that u can watch videos in landscape mode with left and right channel sound coming from both sides of screen ..nice concept ..but i dont like it ...if ur one of those who listens music through ur phones speakers more than the headset then u will be dissappointed with n82 speakers .. cos n73 is way better in this regard..

also abt speed of n82 ...for last two months i am using it with 8gb card without any single issue ..no speed lags..nothing whatsoever ..even when the card is filled 100%.. n82 has support upto 32gb ..with upto 16gb cards available in market .. in india u can easily get upto 8gb ..

krates said:
according to the reviews if you hold the phone while listening to music then only it will effect your listening experience

I meant if you hold it vertically.

Power UP said:
Yogi anything about speakers on the right side.......will it affect the listening experience

Please i am really skeptical about this speaker thing.

The speakers are positioned like that because when you are viewing videos full screen by turning the phone horizontal, the speakers will be on top and you'll get stereo sound. If the speakers had been positioned on either side of the phone as in N95 then you would not have got stereo sound while viewing videos. :smile:

u will be able to play videos , games etc .. on tv using tv out of n82

Power UP said:
I meant if you hold it vertically.

Held vertically it'll sound just like your N73 since N73 also has it's speakers on the top and bottom.

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iatb.gourav said:
I don't see any harm in discussing.

If you do then please tell us.

Couldn't u make out that my post was in a lighter vein ?

yogi7272 said:
i find it stupid design to place both speakers on same side of the phone ..as i said n82 speakers are not as loud as n73 ones ..about 60% of n73 speakers .. they placed it on right side ..so that u can watch videos in landscape mode with left and right channel sound coming from both sides of screen ..nice concept ..but i dont like it ...if ur one of those who listens music through ur phones speakers more than the headset then u will be dissappointed with n82 speakers .. cos n73 is way better in this regard..

also abt speed of n82 ...for last two months i am using it with 8gb card without any single issue ..no speed lags..nothing whatsoever ..even when the card is filled 100%.. n82 has support upto 32gb ..with upto 16gb cards available in market .. in india u can easily get upto 8gb ..

krazzy said:
The speakers are positioned like that because when you are viewing videos full screen by turning the phone horizontal, the speakers will be on top and you'll get stereo sound. If the speakers had been positioned on either side of the phone as in N95 then you would not have got stereo sound while viewing videos.

Thanks yogi and krazzy for clarifying

I guess i am more of an headphone type person, so it won't affect me much.

yogi7272 said:
u will be able to play videos , games etc .. on tv using tv out of n82

That my friend is like icing on an already good cake

its getting very boring for me to praise n82 again & again .. guys, its one gem of a phone .. no need to think abt ..if u have a budget then simply go out and buy it ..

Hahaha

Thanks alot guys, i have made up my mind.

Its gonna be N82

Thanks again.

also since ur headset type of person then u will enjoy directly plugging ur fav headset to phone like ep 630 etc . ..instead of connecting it through adapter as in n73 me ..

N82 is the way 2 go....If u have 2 spend 20k on a phone, then this is the one...

yogi7272 said:
u will be able to play videos , games etc .. on tv using tv out of n82

you must be kiddin me dude...320x240 vids on a screen??u must be kiddin me..the games and the pics will be so bloody pixelated you will end up hating the whole thing..

and face detection is not a gimmick..according to gsmarena...its works vey well and the pictures come out very well too....

And yes, Touch Focus in G900 is also not a gimmick.....It works perfectly according to GSMArena......

amd64_man2005 said:
you must be kiddin me dude...320x240 vids on a screen??u must be kiddin me..the games and the pics will be so bloody pixelated you will end up hating the whole thing..

and face detection is not a gimmick..according to gsmarena...its works vey well and the pictures come out very well too....

yup you cannot play games on tv but vbag (gba) games can surely be played on it

check out the tv-out section here

*www.fonearena.com/blog/2008/02/03/nokia-n82-review.html

here is the one of the user opinion of G900

I got the G900 yesterday. I was totally disappointed. SLOW SLOW SLOW!

The camera is really bad. The touch focus is nice but without nice quality pictures it is useless.

The screen is dim, not sharp and not vivid.

I am taking it back for sure!

I prefer to wait for a few weeks and get something decent.

check out here if you don't believe me

*www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_g900-reviews-2247.php

one more

I am a very typical user of mobile phone so I only just played around with it a little instead of trying all functions.

G900 screen color seems a bit "off" to me. Is very bright and "White" not sure why. I tried changing the Theme "which honestly took Forever", and the colors are still the same not sure if that's the touch screen fault. The touch screen is quiet responsive, but getting around the menu sometimes slows down, but only just a little.

The size is perfect and the keys are great. The camer pictures are nowhere as good comepared to my K800i even at 5 megapixel (this is only based on, onscreen comparison), the touch screen autofocus is FUN. But the whiten screen really annoys me. I was dead set to get this phone till i saw the screen. (Before I got the hands on with the G900 I played with the Diamond with the VGA mon) maybe that's why I was so disappointed with the screen.

g900 ka camera ton k850i se battar hai

and it's prices are
[SIZE=+1]510 U.S. dollars = 21[SIZE=-2] [/SIZE]419.5716 Indian rupees[/SIZE]

2k more

Guys, I am not a brand follower...So was just researching if C902 is better than N82 so that I can go for the C902 instead of N82 (if it is better)

AND SEE WHAT I FOUND ON THE SE FORUM:
*forums.se-nse.net/lofiversion/index.php/t29587.html

(Read the first post and the excerpt from mobile-review.com)

After reading it seems that C902 is also not better than N82....

i watch vga videos recorded with n82 on my tv screen ..those looks superb on tv ..havent tried games ..but read somewhere its possible too ..havent tried my self ..will try and post back ..

and n82 records videos in vga@30 fps ..not in qvga like those so called camera phones ..

hey yogi you can play VBAG(gba emulator) games with tv-out that will work perfectly

krates said:
yup you cannot play games on tv but vbag (gba) games can surely be played on it

check out the tv-out section here

*www.fonearena.com/blog/2008/02/03/nokia-n82-review.html

here is the one of the user opinion of G900

I got the G900 yesterday. I was totally disappointed. SLOW SLOW SLOW!

The camera is really bad. The touch focus is nice but without nice quality pictures it is useless.

The screen is dim, not sharp and not vivid.

I am taking it back for sure!

I prefer to wait for a few weeks and get something decent.

check out here if you don't believe me

*www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_g900-reviews-2247.php

one more

I am a very typical user of mobile phone so I only just played around with it a little instead of trying all functions.

G900 screen color seems a bit "off" to me. Is very bright and "White" not sure why. I tried changing the Theme "which honestly took Forever", and the colors are still the same not sure if that's the touch screen fault. The touch screen is quiet responsive, but getting around the menu sometimes slows down, but only just a little.

The size is perfect and the keys are great. The camer pictures are nowhere as good comepared to my K800i even at 5 megapixel (this is only based on, onscreen comparison), the touch screen autofocus is FUN. But the whiten screen really annoys me. I was dead set to get this phone till i saw the screen. (Before I got the hands on with the G900 I played with the Diamond with the VGA mon) maybe that's why I was so disappointed with the screen.

g900 ka camera ton k850i se battar hai

and it's prices are
[SIZE=+1]510 U.S. dollars = 21[SIZE=-2] [/SIZE]419.5716 Indian rupees[/SIZE]

2k more

dude..why are you bent on posting the crash comments all the time....i have seen the comment section and there are a number of positive comments for the g900..just that you won't buy the g900..dont publicize it cheaply...

and as a matter of fact..don't confuse US prices to indian prices..in india it will cost a few bucks less...

People who are doubting about quality of video playing on TV should see the output practically instead of commenting over here blindly to prove their point.

g900 and C902 both lacks XENON FLASH :lol:

Has anyone seen the link that I had posted???

I dunno why the SE has left the Xenon flash in C902 and there is no Wifi also in it...

yup .. games works on tvout too .. checked with "global race" and looks pretty decent too .. and videos looks fantastic .. se has lost it .. no xenon flash in their new camera phones .. just photoflash which is nothing but a led flash ..

^^^ Yup sony fanboys are showing there disappointment :lol:

like (i feel sorry for them) :lol:

this is so funny

yogi7272 said:
yup .. games works on tvout too .. checked with "global race" and looks pretty decent too .. and videos looks fantastic .. se has lost it .. no xenon flash in their new camera phones .. just photoflash which is nothing but a led flash ..

Yes, C902 lacks in features as compared to the N82...Well, if u want me 2 do head 2 head comparison of N82 with C902, I can do that too...

NO PHONE SEEMS 2 BEAT THE N82...

^^^how?? :S

uppalpankaj said:
Yes, C902 lacks in features as compared to the N82...Well, if u want me 2 do head 2 head comparison of N82 with C902, I can do that too...

yup .go ahead .. let us see the results ..

don't take the pain see here

*www.esato.com/phones/index.php/phone=370,cp=332

and see the features which N82 lacks

and they wanted to decrease n82 function so they have said

MP3 NA :lol:

GAMES NA

CALENDAR NA :lol:

nikeel said:
Couldn't u make out that my post was in a lighter vein ?

Sorry my friend!
Actually I am quite worried from the past few days. So, didn't think of it that way.

Anyways, it's clear that N82 is indeed a great phone. No doubts on that.
But, what about if we compare N82 and N95.
As both are almost equally priced, which one is more value for money?

far more better comparison between the 3

*www.esato.com/phones/index.php?phone=370&cp=332&cp2=365

still n82 has got 1 more feature which is gps

iatb.gourav said:
Sorry my friend!
Actually I am quite worried from the past few days. So, didn't think of it that way.

Anyways, it's clear that N82 is indeed a great phone. No doubts on that.
But, what about if we compare N82 and N95.
As both are almost equally priced, which one is more value for money?

n82 is far more better

better camera quality
better processing speed

n95 only has got

infrared
dedicated music keys + slider

and please buy n82 as soon as possible so to end up this discussion

krates said:
and please buy n82 as soon as possible so to end up this discussion

I'd love to do so.
But, unfortunately, the N82 Black is out of stock in the markets here & I dunno when it'll be available.

And, I'll keep on discussing more and more things till I get the phone ....

At least it'll be an "excellent" guide for anyone who's buying a 20k phone !!

Cheers

g900 has touchscreen if i am not mistaken..lol..and thats super cool..make no mistake about it..that will be the main selling point of the g900...

So here is a head 2 head comparison of N82 with C902:
1. Display Size - N82 - 2.4'', C902 - 2''
N82 wins as bigger display is always better
2. Display resolution – N82 – 16 M , C902 – 262K
N82 wins again…
3. Weight – N82 – 114 g, C902 – 107 g (Minor issue and can b negated)
4. Phonebook – N82-unlimited entries, C902 – 30 entries
N82 wins as u can store unlimited entries…
5. Call records – N82 – 30 days, C902 – 30 entries
N82 wins
6. Memory – N82 – 100 MB (Internal) + 128 MB (SDRAM) = 228 MB (Total),
C902 – 160 MB
N82 has more memory so it is better..

7. GPRS – N82 – Class 32 (107 kbps), C902 - Class 10( 32 - 48 kbps )
So, GPRS connectivity is better in N82 has it has more speed.
8. EDGE – N82 - Class 32, 296 kbps, C902 - Class 10, 236.8 kbps
So, EDGE Connectivity is faster in N82..

Extras in N82 as compared to C902
1. Symbian OS in N82..So more apps are available for N82.
2. N82 has Wifi which C902 lacks.
3. N82 has TV Out feature which C902 doesn’t have.
4. N82 has GPS which is absent in C902.
5. N82’ s cam has a xenon flash with a carl zeiss optics..So, It is better than C902…(I
really can’t figure out why SE left the Xenon flash in C902. They had given it in
K810i but then why it was not included in C902)
6. N82 has Motion sensor with UI auto rotate which is not present in C902.
7. N82 has office document viewer – so u can view ur docs after loading them in N82
which is not possible in the case of C902.
8. N82 has 3.5 mm audio output jack, so u can plug in any headphones which is not
possible in the case of C902.
9. N82 – It has ARM 11 332 MHz processor...It is really fast...

Extras in C902 as compared to N82.
There r not many and I found these:
1. Thickness – C902 – 10.5 mm, N82 – 17.3 MM
2. C902 has 8 illuminated camera touch keys which N82 lacks…

But, looking at the above comparison the pros of N82 r definitely more than the pros of C902…So, I think N82 is definitely better.

For confirmation see the following link:
*forums.se-nse.net/lofiversion/index.php/t29587.html
where SE users are really giving negative feedback about their buying decisions.

SE has got it all wrong in this 5 MP category with K850i and C902. They have failed miserably...

^^^^^ROFLMAO

thats the only thing that comes to my mind...

okay..u need to be taught some things..

ROM=Read Only Memory
RAM=Random Access Memory

according to u..n82 has 110 mb Rom and 128 mb RAM..so add the two up?? LOLZZZZZZZ

who told you c902 doesnt have tv-out and motion sensor??are you out of your brains??

The c902 has photoflash whcih SE claim to be at par with Xenon Flash..let the retail version come out you will get the idea...dont post noobish comments on this without knowing anything..

display resolution-DUDE..RESOLUTION AND NUMBER OF COLORS ARE TOTALLY A DIFFERENT ISSUE..i had told you earlier..both have a resolution of 320x240..and SEs displays are million times better than that of nokias..check out any mobile site you want..

screen size is less due to the presencse of the 8 touch keys...

phonebook-c902 has 30 entries..LOL..

call records-yea n82 beat the c902 in that..

symbian-noone complained about symbian..we know its a symbian phone..
wifi and gps-you have adapters costing as low as 1.5k to provide for gps and wifi activities...and much more powerful than that inbuilt..

c902 will come with an adapter obviosuly and n82 comes with a some roadside crap headphones..

the c902 has support for 3d games which the n82 doesnt.

the c902 comes preloaded with EA games coz SE has an exclusive contract with EA...

C902 has FACE DETECTION...

has trackid..

has playnow-arena with more than 5 million songs..

is the slimmest and the sexiest 5 mp phone on planet earth at the moment...

@uppal-do your research when you are commenting on an SE phone with me in the forum..

n82 has support for 3d games ..it has dedicated graphics accelerator ..go check "global race" on n82 , n95 8gb .. n82 bundled earphones are good .. definetely better than roadside earphones .. what is a use of facedetection when it cant produces better image than the competition .. and that photoflash is no way better than xenon flash of n82 ..

and those additional wifi and gps modules will work on bluetooth which will drain ur battery much faster than integrated one ..not to mention u need to carry one more additional device with u ..

and slimmest phone means its optics will be crappiest ..hee hee ..and yes, if its not on par with n82 , then it must be because of beta firmware .. we will wait for stable one for few more months ..

^^^wifi modules will work on bluetooth..???who gave you that idea??

yea..i know..nokia headphones are awesum..lolzz..

slimmer phone means crappy optics?? hehe....i guess you have not come in terms with the level of innovation yet...

i never said awesome .. but better than roadside earphones as u mentioned .. maybe those wifi modules work with fastport or something ... but who gives a damn ..

maybe you dont..doesnt mean someone else wont.. lolzz..

yogi7272 said:
and that photoflash is no way better than xenon flash of n82

Yeah, I agree its not better than Xenon, but quite comparable to Xenon and will not be a battery sucker like Xenon....

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uppalpankaj said:
So here is a head 2 head comparison of N82 with C902:
1. Display Size - N82 - 2.4'', C902 - 2''
N82 wins as bigger display is always better
2. Display resolution – N82 – 16 M , C902 – 262K
N82 wins again…
3. Weight – N82 – 114 g, C902 – 107 g (Minor issue and can b negated)
4. Phonebook – N82-unlimited entries, C902 – 30 entries
N82 wins as u can store unlimited entries…
5. Call records – N82 – 30 days, C902 – 30 entries
N82 wins
6. Memory – N82 – 100 MB (Internal) + 128 MB (SDRAM) = 228 MB (Total),
C902 – 160 MB
N82 has more memory so it is better..

7. GPRS – N82 – Class 32 (107 kbps), C902 - Class 10( 32 - 48 kbps )
So, GPRS connectivity is better in N82 has it has more speed.
8. EDGE – N82 - Class 32, 296 kbps, C902 - Class 10, 236.8 kbps
So, EDGE Connectivity is faster in N82..

1. Lol...Bigger display isn't always better
2. Those are colours and you can't really differentiate between the colours on such a small screen. Resolution is Pixel by Pixel and both have the same resolution i.e. 240*320 pixels...
3. C902 has less weight + a great form factor....It doesn't look a brick
4. Phonebook.....both have unlimited entries [Limited to memory]
5. Here N82 wins
6. Intenral memory and RAM are compltely different things......I guess you probably don't store your documents on your computer's RAM. C902 has 160MB internal memory and it wins here.
7,8. In India it doesn't make any difference. You can't even expect to get 237kbps on EDGE here in India.......

uppalpankaj said:
Extras in N82 as compared to C902
1. Symbian OS in N82..So more apps are available for N82.
2. N82 has Wifi which C902 lacks.
3. N82 has TV Out feature which C902 doesn’t have.
4. N82 has GPS which is absent in C902.
5. N82’ s cam has a xenon flash with a carl zeiss optics..So, It is better than C902…(I
really can’t figure out why SE left the Xenon flash in C902. They had given it in
K810i but then why it was not included in C902)
6. N82 has Motion sensor with UI auto rotate which is not present in C902.
7. N82 has office document viewer – so u can view ur docs after loading them in N82
which is not possible in the case of C902.
8. N82 has 3.5 mm audio output jack, so u can plug in any headphones which is not
possible in the case of C902.
9. N82 – It has ARM 11 332 MHz processor...It is really fast...

1. Agreed.
2. Agreed.
3. C902 has TV-out.......
4. N82s GPS is slow BTW....anyways, C902 doesn't have GPS.
5. Photoflash of C902 isn't a battery sucker like Xenon and its performance is quite comparable.
6. C902 also has it.
7. This is same as 1.......It has Symbian.
8. Agreed.
9. And Symbian makes it equally slow.....

So, only +ve of N82 are: Symbian, Wi-fi, GPS, 3.5mm jack

uppalpankaj said:
Extras in C902 as compared to N82.
There r not many and I found these:
1. Thickness – C902 – 10.5 mm, N82 – 17.3 MM
2. C902 has 8 illuminated camera touch keys which N82 lacks…

3. More internal memory.
4. Fast and responsive UI.....
5. Better battery......
6. Better keypad
7. Its definitely going to play better music than N82.....Track ID, Mega Bass, PlayNow are its additional musical features.....
==================================================
Well krates, also look at the comments by some guy named John on that page......He is really happy with his G900 and is saying that it is faster than those S60 bricks....

n82 gps is very fast and reliable .. using it for the last 5 months .. photoflash of c902 would be better than standard led flash ..but comparable to xenon flash ..nope .. anyways ,xenon flash of n82 is far superiour to any phone with xenon flash ..

also what is the use of those shortcut keys when its camera performance is well below that of competition .. se must release a camera phone which should be way ahead of competition .. a worthy successor to k750i & k790i is what me too waiting ..

hey, i am not nokia fanboy, but u can call me a n82 fanboy though ..

yogi7272 said:
n82 gps is very fast and reliable .. using it for the last 5 months .. photoflash of c902 would be better than standard led flash ..but comparable to xenon flash ..nope .. anyways ,xenon flash of n82 is far superiour to any phone with xenon flash ..

It may not be as good as a Xenon flash, but its equivalent to 3 LED flashes.....C902 is under development and GSMArena guys are pleased with the performance of C902's photoflash. Performance is definitely going to increase in the final product. Actually Photoflash is a good low power alternative to Xenon flash......

yogi7272 said:
also what is the use of those shortcut keys when its camera performance is well below that of competition .. se must release a camera phone which should be way ahead of competition .. a worthy successor to k750i & k790i is what me too waiting ..

It isn't launched yet......And I'm also hoping that it kicks the a$$ of N82.......SE should take complete time before launching C902.....

gagandeep said:
It isn't launched yet......And I'm also hoping that it kicks the a$$ of N82.......SE should take complete time before launching C902.....

Me too.

Any idea when c902 will be available in the market?

amd64_man2005 said:
^^^^^ROFLMAO

thats the only thing that comes to my mind...

okay..u need to be taught some things..

ROM=Read Only Memory
RAM=Random Access Memory

according to u..n82 has 110 mb Rom and 128 mb RAM..so add the two up?? LOLZZZZZZZ

who told you c902 doesnt have tv-out and motion sensor??are you out of your brains??

The c902 has photoflash whcih SE claim to be at par with Xenon Flash..let the retail version come out you will get the idea...dont post noobish comments on this without knowing anything..

display resolution-DUDE..RESOLUTION AND NUMBER OF COLORS ARE TOTALLY A DIFFERENT ISSUE..i had told you earlier..both have a resolution of 320x240..and SEs displays are million times better than that of nokias..check out any mobile site you want..

screen size is less due to the presencse of the 8 touch keys...

phonebook-c902 has 30 entries..LOL..

call records-yea n82 beat the c902 in that..

symbian-noone complained about symbian..we know its a symbian phone..
wifi and gps-you have adapters costing as low as 1.5k to provide for gps and wifi activities...and much more powerful than that inbuilt..

c902 will come with an adapter obviosuly and n82 comes with a some roadside crap headphones..

the c902 has support for 3d games which the n82 doesnt.

the c902 comes preloaded with EA games coz SE has an exclusive contract with EA...

C902 has FACE DETECTION...

has trackid..

has playnow-arena with more than 5 million songs..

is the slimmest and the sexiest 5 mp phone on planet earth at the moment...

@uppal-do your research when you are commenting on an SE phone with me in the forum..

Its no use arguing with u....When all the phone users around the globe r really disappointed with the phones that SE is making in the 5 MP category, u seem 2 be raving abt them...

Let me take ur post one by one:
1. I know the difference between ROM and RAM...Read my post carefully....I compared memory and not ROM/RAM and this is why I added the two together...I did not say Internal memory...N82 has more memory (RAM + ROM added together)...More RAM means that N82 will b faster in opening applns. and processing..

2. The C902 does not have a Xenon flash which is more powerful than photoflash..What is the use of it when the camera does not perform upto expectations? ( I really wanted SE to include the Xenon flash in C902)

3. Display Colours do matter as it is the no. of colours that can b produced...I bought the K750i but when my bro got the Nokia 6300, I was amazed 2 see its display...There was lot of punch in the display and colours looked more vibrant on 6300 as compared 2 my K750i...(My K750i is the best otherwise)

4. Display Size - Don't tell me that this does not matter...If the display is bigger, it give a better experience of net surfing...N82 has 2.4'' whereas C902 only 2''

5. Yes the C902 phonebook can store only 1000 x 20 fields [Actually I mistyped by saying 30 entries- (This was call records)].. The N82 can store unlimited entries in its phonebook..N82 scores...

6. Call records C902 - 30, N82 - 30 days....Can you actually come 2 know who called u 30 days back from C902...With N82 u can come 2 know on the 30th day also..This can only b possible with C902 if u make only one call/day which is not possible.

7. N82 has symbian, wifi, gps, 3.5 mm jack, Office Document Viewer- These r not there in C902...
8. C902 has face detection - What is the use of this when u cannot click better photos?
9. The Track Id and Play Now r paid and useless features in C902..Who is gonna pay 4 them to use them???
10. N82 - Carl Zeiss Optics and Xenon flash...
11. India is progressing and 3G will b launched by nexr yr. Then the 3G speeds will matter...

Overall N82 is a better package....Rest time will tell when C902 is launched...Just do a search on google and u will come 2 know which is better coz SE users r really disappointed...

Anyways...As I said no use arguing...V will once again discuss when C902 is launched and then will take this discussion 2 a higher level....

dude check out negative comments are more than positive

and drop a touch screen phone 2-3 times touch screen gone screen left

and this is the fastest symbian phone who is saying that it is slow

and why forgot the exceptional browser

light gone let it come i will post more

Well there is no doubt that the camera performance of SE phones is dropping after the K800i/K770i. The 5mp phones are nothing special and definitely not upto expectations, which were raised by the previous SE phones. Except for a few adamant SE fans, most people are disappointed by the performance of these new phones. K850i turned out to be a major disappointment, no matter how much SE fans would disagree. Leave alone creating new benchmarks, it couldn't even reach the ones created by its predecessors.

On the other hand is Nokia which is making up for ground which it lost to previous SE phones. Its current range of 5mp phones are ruling the roost. A couple more 5mp phones are planned to release in the next few months, which if not better, will atleast have the existing quality standard. So they are definitely on the rise.

A lot now depends upon the C902 and G900. If they fail to deliver, people are definitely going to be very disappointed and SE will lose a major chunk of the pie, that is the 5mp phones market. Not to mention the loss of respect in the eyes of camera phone buyers.

^^^ +1 !!!

Here is an example of G900s Touch Focus: *www.gsmarena.com/showpic.php3?sImg=reviewsimg/se-g900-preview/camera/gsmarena_f001.jpg

I think its camera is OKAY....

^^^ ya it's camera is ok

but not exceptional :lol:

krates said:
^^^ ya it's camera is ok

but not exceptional

Dude, G900 isn't being made as a CAMERA phone......It has been made as a Touch-screen Smartphone - a purpose which it serves rightly.....though it is offering Touch Focus, which no other camera phone - even your favourite Nokia N82 can't offer -- Focus where you want to focus by just touching the screen. Isn't it good??

And please don't get me into Fanboy war by posting sarcasting laughs like you currently did.....

@uppal..do you know the amount of RAM the c902 has??if you dont then how can you compare both of them??

I dunno elsewhere but atleast in kol..the k850 is selling like hot cakes..the cybershot brand is enough to sway most consumers...

and newaz...let the c902 release..we will resurface the topic then...

and SE's is now more intent on the mid range market with its portfolio filled to the brim with low/mid end products...they are trying to create a base...but knowing SE they are bouncing back with the likes of the c902 and new firmwares for the k850...

the k850 will reportedly have face detection too with a latter firmware...

gagandeep said:
Dude, G900 isn't being made as a CAMERA phone......It has been made as a Touch-screen Smartphone - a purpose which it serves rightly.....though it is offering Touch Focus, which no other camera phone - even your favourite Nokia N82 can't offer -- Focus where you want to focus by just touching the screen. Isn't it good??

what will you do with the touch focus when the camera does not have quality only :lol:

btw it has got a good touch screen

K850i is selling slow here. The shop where I get the mobile prices from has now started selling K850i without bill for 16k. This tactic is usually deployed when the handsets are selling slow and there is a hope that the lower pricetag might attract customers. Popular models like N82 are not sold without bill.

@krazzy - Do u really look like Hrithik dude??? When I see ur post, I think 4 a moment that its Hrithik's post.... anyway...

Yes, the N82 is selling like hot cakes in my city as well....

krates said:
what will you do with the touch focus when the camera does not have quality only

Here is a photo from G900:

*img117.imageshack.us/img117/8705/g9001jn2.jpg

Source: *www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=168827&start=225

*img.smape.com/images/review/Sony_Ericsson/G900/cams/DSC00074.JPG *img.smape.com/images/review/Sony_Ericsson/G900/cams/02012007319.jpg

*img.smape.com/images/review/Sony_Ericsson/G900/cams/DSC00057.JPG *img.smape.com/images/review/Sony_Ericsson/G900/cams/02012007297.jpg

*img.smape.com/images/review/Sony_Ericsson/G900/cams/DSC00031.JPG *img.smape.com/images/review/Sony_Ericsson/G900/cams/02012007290.jpg

Sony Ericsson G900 / Nokia N82

Daytime shooting samples are more self-explaining. N82 gives you better contrast, sharp object edges, a crisper image and more natural colors, at times bordering on oversaturation, though the overall impression is better than Sony Ericsson produces, because of the latter's bleak and blurry pictures. The sick pink tint in which SE pictures often sink is still recognizable just like with K850i and C902, meaning that no effort was undertaken to improve the image processing routine – resulting in a very average camera after all.

Indoors

*img.smape.com/images/review/Sony_Ericsson/G900/cams/DSC00062.JPG *img.smape.com/images/review/Sony_Ericsson/G900/cams/02012007302.jpg

Sony Ericsson G900 / Nokia N82

Nighttime

*img.smape.com/images/review/Sony_Ericsson/G900/cams/DSC00016.JPG *img.smape.com/images/review/Sony_Ericsson/G900/cams/01012007275.jpg

Sony Ericsson G900 / Nokia N82

Flash test

Flash off

*img.smape.com/images/review/Sony_Ericsson/G900/cams/DSC00060.JPG *img.smape.com/images/review/Sony_Ericsson/G900/cams/02012007301.jpg

Flash on

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Sony Ericsson G900 / Nokia N82

As you see, a regular LED flash can't beat the xenon flash of Nokia N82, the gap in quality is pretty dramatic.

SMAPE's opinion

Conclusions drawn from the analysis of the camera unit employed by Sony Ericsson G900 are rather ambiguous. The camera unit yields to Nokia N82 in terms of setting variety, photo and video quality, leaving the latter the absolute leader on this front so far. On the other hand, G900 seems to be a better option as long as the camera functionality / overall functionality ratio is concerned, which is on a level with the K850i flagship.

SEE THE YELLOW TINT EVERYWHERE. N82 PICS ARE MORE NATURAL

^^^^OMG..again a beta shootout..damn man..waiting for gsmarenas...

amd64_man2005 said:
^^^^OMG..again a beta shootout..damn man..waiting for gsmarenas...

The photo which I've posted is from the Final G900 bought by some Swedish Chef.......

Well Krates is just trying to prove that its camera is nothing in front of N82......G900 is serving a completely different purpose. It ain't a camera phone. It is a Touch-screen Symbian Smartphone. And well to all the Nokia fans here, Nokia's Symbian S60 doesn't support Touch Screen.......

And considering the photo which I posted above, I think a G900 buyer will be satisfied by its camera performance. PS: And please Krates now don't say that its camera is poor, N82 rocks blah blah.....I was not comparing G900 with your favourite N82....I was just saying that G900's camera is fine though N82 has an excellent camera.

which SE model with UIQ gonna compete with N82?

^^^^paris aka p5...actually targetd towards the n95..

gagandeep said:
And please Krates now don't say that its camera is poor, N82 rocks blah blah.....I was not comparing G900 with yours favourite N82....I was just saying that G900's camera is fine though N82 has an excellent camera.

i got it

What good is a touchscreen without Multitouch anyways?
Btw by then the rumoured N85 may be out.

amd64_man2005 said:
I dunno elsewhere but atleast in kol..the k850 is selling like hot cakes..the cybershot brand is enough to sway most consumers...

Even I would have been one of those consumers if I would not have discussed here.
Still, the pretty design, music, battery & CS brand is enough for many to prefer K850i over N82.

uppalpankaj said:
@krazzy - Do u really look like Hrithik dude???

Absolutely not. Not even close. And Pathik does not look like Tux either.

why dont @OP consider Sony Ericsson P1i? its a UIQ+3.2MP camera..

^^....

U all have confused me again with your posts..now i have simply no idead which phone to go......

Maybe n96....

but yeas....as one poster above said...after k750i.....i simply cannot find a innovative phone is SE stable....

I used 750 and loved it....all the phones that they made is simply copy cats...

krazzy said:
Absolutely not. Not even close. And Pathik does not look like Tux either.

But I do look exactly as shown in my avatar

madjeri said:
^^....

U all have confused me again with your posts..now i have simply no idead which phone to go......

Maybe n96....

but yeas....as one poster above said...after k750i.....i simply cannot find a innovative phone is SE stable....

I used 750 and loved it....all the phones that they made is simply copy cats...

As the wise (me, that is) say: When in doubt, wait for the Android.

krazzy said:
Absolutely not. Not even close. And Pathik does not look like Tux either.

madjeri said:
^^....
..

but yeas....as one poster above said...after k750i.....i simply cannot find a innovative phone is SE stable....

I used 750 and loved it....all the phones that they made is simply copy cats...

unstable??copycats???SE coped from whom?? :O

i find SE designs to be the most innovative..not like nokia who keeps on using the same designs again and again..

talking about stability..the k850 has een a bit unstable as it is based on a new platform..dude..do ur research first...SE has the best 2 mp and 3.2 cam range...and an equal if not better 5 mp range...
please check before you post and provide examples to go with your post..

amd64_man2005 said:
..and an equal if not better 5 mp range...
please check before you post and provide examples to go with your post..

Will you stop posting this again and again if we all *say* that we agree with you?

madjeri said:
Maybe n96....

Well N96 is available as a preorder item for 1180$

Source: GSMArena *www.gsmarena.com/market_update_htc_diamond_se_g700_and_g900_nokia_n78_and_7310-news-515.php See the last paragraph....

no way c902 would beat n82 ..

check what these guys have to say abt it

*www.mobile-review.com/articles/2008/birulki-5-en.shtml

also , the reason se ruled in 2mp and 3mp cam department because of lack of serious competition .. just look at 5mp arena .. so may contenders ...and they lost to nokia ..and even samsung and lg is better than se.. and dont be surprised if the upcoming moto 5mp phone would beat se too..

Hi guys

Is there any price difference between the "N82 classic" and the "N82-Black" ?

Please reply.

Power UP said:
Hi guys

Is there any price difference between the "N82 classic" and the "N82-Black" ?

Please reply.

nope.. other than colour ..check this link

*3lib.ukonline.co.uk/sshow/ss59.html

also for other guys, this is interesting thread

*www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=170009&start=90

yogi7272 said:
nope.. other than colour ..check this link

*3lib.ukonline.co.uk/sshow/ss59.html

also for other guys, this is interesting thread

*www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=170009&start=90

Thanks a lot Yogi

Will check it out now.

yogi7272 said:
nope.. other than colour ..check this link

*3lib.ukonline.co.uk/sshow/ss59.html

also for other guys, this is interesting thread

*www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=170009&start=90

Have a slow net connection(N73)

so it will take some time to finish the download.

Only one version in Nokia N82 is available. As of today only two colors available (Black & Silver). Just a color difference, rest is one and the same.

I dunno why SE users are blind folded and not realizing that in the 5 MP category, it is N82 all the way, inspite of the great reviews on the Internet which justify this...They must do their own research and find for themselves which one is better...

Atleast I haven't come across any site till now which claims the N82 2 b inferior or equivalent than the SE phones in the same category...

amd64_man2005 said:
unstable??copycats???SE coped from whom?? :O

i find SE designs to be the most innovative..not like nokia who keeps on using the same designs again and again..

talking about stability..the k850 has een a bit unstable as it is based on a new platform..dude..do ur research first...SE has the best 2 mp and 3.2 cam range...and an equal if not better 5 mp range...
please check before you post and provide examples to go with your post..

ow shut up.....

Read my post properly..u just saw unstable copycats....

SE is just giving phones based on their k750.....and i never said SE is unstable....

gimme a break.... SE and moto ARE the most stable phones i have used....
credit.their propeir s/w.......

and yeas....they simply have the best 2mp and 3.2mp cameras ... i know it very well thank you...

but my complaint..is its just all same.....

they all begining to look same.... 750 WAS a FREAKIN AWESOME phone,...even now....

but after that...i cannot find a phone that made a mark from SE....

u see for me SE punchmarks to others were T610....k750....and maybe ...yeas definitely...w800....only due to its walkman feaute..otherwise 750 in a orange suit....

Amd....please read the entire post will ya... I am not a fanboy but a USER... BUt i do say ONLY things i am positive about...no need of more research..already done.... so i dont need examples and nos...readers will know if they know...

uppalpankaj said:
I dunno why SE users are blind folded and not realizing that in the 5 MP category, it is N82 all the way, inspite of the great reviews on the Internet which justify this...They must do their own research and find for themselves which one is better...

Atleast I haven't come across any site till now which claims the N82 2 b inferior or equivalent than the SE phones in the same category...

+1.....

but that couldnt mean they are bad...as of before 5mp from nokia....SE was afterall making class leading cam phones....

Me not a sony fanboy

amd64_man2005 said:
talking about stability..the k850 has een a bit unstable as it is based on a new platform...

So, you do agree that the K850i is unstable...Thatz what v have been telling u all the time..Finally, u have realized this......GOOD...

DEBATE OVER NOW...THREAD ENDS HERE....

^^^^huh????

why do you think i keep on mentioning the firmware updates so frequently??..gawd...th A200 platform under the JP-8 construct is more stable than ever...

and @madjeri- dont form double standards..you are contradicting yourself in the post...

uppalpankaj said:
Atleast I haven't come across any site till now which claims the N82 2 b inferior or equivalent than the SE phones in the same category...

Just for your information: *www.techtree.com/India/Reviews/Nokia_N82/551-87445-614-4.html . Read the last para. It says that "You can expect very acceptable results from the N82 -- the best from Nokia, and this is probably the best 5MP camera after the K850i."

BTW, amd, since you are using K850, I want to ask you something.
Does the phone attract a lot of fingerprints? And if yes, does it look very ugly? Secondly, I've heard that the phone attracts a lot of dust. Is it true?

yepzzz..any black glossed phone is a finger print magnet..and about dust...not really...yea..if the phones sticky due to sweat and stuff it attracts dust...
and nopes..it looks as great as ever...

amd64_man2005 said:
and nopes..it looks as great as ever...

Sure ???

I don't know why I have a bad feeling about it?

N82 is selling like salt here

yeah even I got SE K810i(deep blue) 4 days back

.I am worried about whether this thing will get scratches...also,the camera cover in the back,it sure gonna get scratch soon

also,I am using crystal case.

^^aare dnt worry...the scratches wont kill ur phone..every phone gets some..but not noticeable..

are phone ki body change karwa lena jyaada pad jaaye ton but remember after warna warranty chali jayengi

^what?are you saying to use duplicate housing for the phone? :lol:

amd64_man2005 said:
^^^^huh????

and @madjeri- dont form double standards..you are contradicting yourself in the post...

Actually i am not.....U need to stop thinking the way u think now.....

I am not comparing SE phones to any others...I am comparing SE phones to SE phones....
yea...thats also a comaprision worthwhile....SE is mimicking themssleves..thats what i point out....try to read both my post now u will have a betetr idea....

u seem to be the only one thinking i am contradicting....

^^^thats coz I am the only one who supports SE and knos for a fact ur wron..

kk..mimicking themselves...

i guess ur confusing nokia to SE..

SE does not have a single model that looks the same with another model..

the likes of the k850,the w910,the s500,the w890,w760 all are completely different..

you may say that some phones have same features..

but isnt it good?it provides an option to the buyer to go for models that suit their needs..

se hasn't released anything worthwhile since k750i & k790i .. same old walkman, cybershot etc ..nothing new of sorts ..

Gourav if you think you cannot wait for N82 stock to arrive then I feel you should go for K850i. Anyway you were more inclined to buy it and you'd probably be more happy with it.

same cybershot and walkman??lolzz...

nokia too is following suit with the same n-series..lolzz...

someone make this thread sticky

and change the title to

buying a 20k phone look here

more than 300 posts paraising n82 and k850 beating the thread starter still wants to buy a k850i

girish.g said:
more than 300 posts paraising n82 and k850 beating the thread starter still wants to buy a k850i

Ya thatz right...Gourav is more inclined towards K850i...

^^^lol..tht means i am the winner??

amd64_man2005 said:
^^^lol..tht means i am the winner??

No one is a winner here...He is in a confused state right now and can't decide...I guess...V have stated all the facts in front of him...He is the one who has 2 decide ultimately....

that means he is wasting all of us time .. agar k850i cybershit lena hai toh itna bada disscussion kis liye bhai ..

^^^i dont think so..he posted a question..and are you some nokia representative who is here to promote the n82??..we are all here to suggest and its up to him to decide.....

gaurav aadhe se jyaada logo ki ijat tumhare haath mein hai soch samajh kar faisla lena :lol:

^^^ amd...

You are the only one whos confused none are.....

SE is mimicking themsleves..and evetryone knows it...and yeas it will provide users with options....but my context was level of innovation and they failed hard....

Please keep others out..besides the point....

^^^innovation??

here goes-check out the lighting effects of the W580 or the K850..
the soft touch buttons in the k850 and the C902..
The Half Qwerty in the P1i..praised by all and sundry
bluetooth watches..now if u get a call the information is transmitted to your watch through bluetooth..including user id..

the C702 is splash and dust resistant..

motion sensing in the W380..just swipe your phone to start the music...or move your hand over the phone to accept a call or reject it..

Face detection in the c902..

sense me in walkman phones ehcih organises the songs according to your mood..

shake me feature in walkmans..

gawd man..what more do you want??i can gie you more btw..

if you are talking of innovation you must point out a phone by a different company that has "innovated" something...

n82 is not innovation...its just a feature packed phone...

N

amd64_man2005 said:
n82 is not innovation...its just a feature packed phone...

U mean gimmicks such as sense me & shake me are more important than features such as Wifi and GPS ? lolzz :))

nikeel said:
U mean gimmicks such as sense me & shake me are more important than features such as Wifi and GPS ? lolzz

+1

There r many other features in the N82 which r more important than these gimmicks found in SE phones....

gimmicks??
wifi is an innovation?? :O
Samsung with their P200 was the fist phone to have Wifi...
Gps is an innovation??

you just take these features and pack them in a cell..this amounts to innovation??if it does then am sorry...

adding features and innovating something is completely different...and these "gimmicks" actually increase the phone sales...
I as a matter of fact never seem to hear about any nokia phone than the n95 or the n82...

amd64_man2005 said:
gimmicks??
wifi is an innovation?? :O
Samsung with their P200 was the fist phone to have Wifi...
Gps is an innovation??

you just take these features and pack them in a cell..this amounts to innovation??if it does then am sorry...

adding features and innovating something is completely different...and these "gimmicks" actually increase the phone sales...
I as a matter of fact never seem to hear about any nokia phone than the n95 or the n82...

For your kind information the sale of Nokia phones is way more than SE phones....Nokia phones have a greater market share than SE phones....So the gimmicks in SE phones r actually not selling them that much and the innovative features of Nokia phones have actually further boosted the sales of Nokia phones...LOL..

krazzy said:
Gourav ... you should go for K850i. Anyway you were more inclined to buy it and you'd probably be more happy with it.

Agree

- But it was before starting the thread.

girish.g said:
more than 300 posts paraising n82 and k850 beating the thread starter still wants to buy a k850i

Agree again

uppalpankaj said:
Ya thatz right...Gourav is more inclined towards K850i...

Arre bola naa .... I agree !!!

amd64_man2005 said:
^^^lol..tht means i am the winner??

Winner??? What for ???

uppalpankaj said:
No one is a winner here...He is in a confused state right now and can't decide...I guess...V have stated all the facts in front of him...He is the one who has 2 decide ultimately....

Perfect !!! Tune to meri muh ki baat chin lee.

krates said:
gaurav aadhe se jyaada logo ki ijat tumhare haath mein hai soch samajh kar faisla lena

Soch samajhne me hi to itna bada confusion ho gaya hai.

No doubt N82 is indeed a great phone and beats K850 in terms of camera and fearures !!!
So, I've decided to go for N82 Black (that is, If I don't find it as ugly as the silver one) !!
At the same time, I am keeping my options open. Also, if there is an (expected) price drop of 2-3 K in K850i then I may go for it. I don't mind saving a few kilo bucks !!!

I think price drop already happened

whats the current price??

girish.g said:
whats the current price??

Ditto !

current price for SE K810i is Rs11500/- with 2 GB memory.
for K850i ...I dont know

any news of price cut of n82??

K850 costs 18.1 in kolkata..dunno bout others...and @gaurav-i was just kiddin..lolzzz...get what u will be happy with..are you goin to sue thaat phone for more than a year??

^^^ of course, I'll get the phone which makes me happy !!

And, most of the phones I use don't last more than 6 months (includes, Nokia 6600, V3i, N72 & Z3).
But, i am sure that I'll be using my next phone for the next 4 years (3 years at least)!!!

includes, Nokia 6600, V3i, N72 & Z3

^^ sorry to say but they are some of the crapest phone ever produced

comparing N82 with NOKIA 6600 and N72 can't even think ( i know you are not comparing but you said i get bored with NOKIA phones very early )

if you will be suing the phone for more than 3 years then best of luck for ur Symbian..i am yet to see a nokia phone performing at its best for more than 6 months...

cheers...

i have seen nokia phone surving for 5yrs

includes constant dropping

and havent seen a ericsson surving for that much time

Jab tak gourav phone lega tab tak n82 5k ka aur k850i 3.5k ka ho jayega

nokia aur 50 phone launch kar chuka hoga aur se 30.

am i promoting n82 ? nope .. just stating the facts abt the phone does not mean promotion ..anyways, i dont need to promote such gem of a phone.. yup it does pack all the desired features in it .. but tell me others who have done it ... i think people here know who is promoting what ..

and i haven't seen someone giving so much thought over a selection of a phone ..phew ..

nikeel said:
Nahi !!! Not again !!!!!

I can see a further 200 posts being added to this thread now

u were right we r almost there :))

i can see 400 more posts in this thread very soon.

i see myself not posting in this thread nemore..

@yogi +9999999upto n terms :))

^^^^
common amd , he may still go for k850i ..have some patience bhai ..

and we do need such fun threads though ..

LOLzzz...m not here making him go for the k850..i gave my views and was done with it..

I find it challenging to fight against fifty peaopleon one side and me on the other..lol..

@krates-dont lie..you may have seen a nokia phone but not a symbian phone..

the first proper symbian was the 6600 with a megapixel cam..just chk out sum 6600 if someone uses it yet and look at the lag...

i really dont find myself using most of the features..and if i wont use them its not worth buying them...coz..the wifi and gps get corrupt pretty soon..and once they are..it costs a bomb to repair them...

what is the reason for huge price difference between K810i and K850i

@amd?

its basically the 5 mp cam,the a200 platform under the jp-8 structure that has resulted in the price difference to such an extent..dont forget that k810 is almost a 1.5 year old model while the k850 is relativle new...it will come down in a few months...when SE releases more of its 5 mp phones and the much touted 8 mp phone..

i think 6600 has a vga cam .. not a megapixel cam ..

*www.gsmarena.com/nokia_6600-454.php

when is se releasing 8 mp phone .. any links or info pls .

esato...in the rumours section..m-one(se representative) has confirmed..it will be available in october..same time as the k850 was released..it will have wifi and gps tho..

announcement likely on june 17th.

lets hope it will be a true replacement of digicam .. and will have both xenon as well as photoflash ..

on a sidenote .. xperia looks to be fantastic device ..maybe my first win mobile ..

Me too waiting for a bomb by SE

maybe it is going to be the 8mp one

amd does it have tv-out ?

what about samsung 10mp camfone

all SE phones have tv-out now..even the c902 has tv-out..

the samsung 10 mp phone has a zoom lens protruding from the back..its grose..

amd64_man2005 said:
^^^innovation??

here goes-check out the lighting effects of the W580 or the K850..
the soft touch buttons in the k850 and the C902..
The Half Qwerty in the P1i..praised by all and sundry
bluetooth watches..now if u get a call the information is transmitted to your watch through bluetooth..including user id..

the C702 is splash and dust resistant..

motion sensing in the W380..just swipe your phone to start the music...or move your hand over the phone to accept a call or reject it..

Face detection in the c902..

sense me in walkman phones ehcih organises the songs according to your mood..

shake me feature in walkmans..

gawd man..what more do you want??i can gie you more btw..

if you are talking of innovation you must point out a phone by a different company that has "innovated" something...

n82 is not innovation...its just a feature packed phone...

Remeber you are user of SE phones alone as u have yourself pointed out and may have seen or handled other companies just for argument sake....

but this is never taken by anyone seriously that your word is last when it comes to SE....

as you yourself have admitted of being a fanboy how can any one of other members can think that they can have a contructive argument with you..none can and will...as lots a post in this thread itself pointed out....

All the things could be said as a feature list.... an innovation is when it completey change how we use or see things...when k750 was launched we were simpky blown away..entire world stood up and took notice....after that maybe walkman series also did that....but after that none....

best example would be this --> how the above said features do innvation???...they just made the handset user friendly and easy...thats all....
--> what does face detection in actual world now have changed??? does that c902 captured markets attention??? no it didnt...but who knows maybe it will in future...

coming to argument about n82....i never want to argue about that to you...you cannoy understand....then how can i possibly do that....and about n82....never used it...so i dont know....

what i presented here is a matter of deduction from my POV....nothing else...

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amd64_man2005 said:
gimmicks??
wifi is an innovation?? :O
Samsung with their P200 was the fist phone to have Wifi...
Gps is an innovation??

you just take these features and pack them in a cell..this amounts to innovation??if it does then am sorry...

Let me make it more simple so that u can understand.

Its better to have a feature rich phone with non-innovative features like Wifi & GPS than have a innovative featureless phone with "innovations" like shake me & sense me.

I know u will still not understand.....but no harm in trying one more time :))

Guys check this out

N82,N95 etc. can play GBA (Gameboy Advance) games!

Here is a video
*www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0kALX51mME

Running Final Fantasy 3 (VI) at full speed.

lol This is awesome. I used to love play GameBoyColor games on my previous phone and now even GBA.

This is now like a mini PSP or GBA

krates said:
includes, Nokia 6600, V3i, N72 & Z3

^^ sorry to say but they are some of the crapest phone ever produced

comparing N82 with NOKIA 6600 and N72 can't even think ( i know you are not comparing but you said i get bored with NOKIA phones very early )

Of course you can't compare N82 with 6600 or N72.
But, I wanted to say that 6600 & N72 both were once bestsellers at their time. Just like N82 is one now !!
Hope you get my point !

utsav said:
Jab tak gourav phone lega tab tak n82 5k ka aur k850i 3.5k ka ho jayega

In that case, I'll get both the phones !!!

Waise, guys, I have already stated my choice.
Now don't blame me if thread is going longer and longerrrrrrrr ....

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iatb.gourav said:
In that case, I'll get both the phones !!!

In fact u can then get 2 of each .... & still save some money

krates said:
includes, Nokia 6600, V3i, N72 & Z3

^^ sorry to say but they are some of the crapest phone ever produced

Please Tell me you are definitely joking.....

all the phones except z3 are BEST SELLERS...MORE than ANY phone you care to name....
so i cant ....i cant comprehend....

+1 ... thats wat I said in my last post !

It's not fair to Compare Yesterdays Mobiles with Todays one....... Technology is improving/growing every micro second. There are so many innovations taking place... We won't be surprise, if todays configuration of BEST PC (computer) would be the configuration of Tomorrows mobile and much more....
Nokia 6600 at it's time was a fantastic mobile, the similar way N82/K850 would be nothing One/two year down the line, compared to the mobiles then.

gaurav i don't believe N82 is not available

don't search small shops go to some big shops like Mobile store and all

and check out there is it available or not or got to a priority dealer

^^^ Can you guess which was the 1st shop I went ??
It was Nokia Priority !!!

And then, I went to e-zone, mobile store and a wholesale shop too !!!

The Black model is running out of stocks.
The silver one is available though !

vilas_patil said:
It's not fair to Compare Yesterdays Mobiles with Todays one....... Technology is improving/growing every micro second. There are so many innovations taking place... We won't be surprise, if todays configuration of BEST PC (computer) would be the configuration of Tomorrows mobile and much more....
Nokia 6600 at it's time was a fantastic mobile, the similar way N82/K850 would be nothing One/two year down the line, compared to the mobiles then.

yup .,, n82 is considerd the king in mobile photography now .. wait for 2-3 months and we will have a new device claiming the title..

Whats the current price of N82 & K850i ?

approx 20K for n82. k850i for 17K ?

Well, the K850i is available for 16.3 k !!!

Fantastic ... I'll get it in a day or two ...

Which one looks better ... the blue or the green one ???

blue..

yea .. u r rite !

Can anyone tell me what all do I get with the package of K850i?
Secondly, I've read that K850i supports 2 types of memory cards? Which one do I get with the package? And which one is advisable to buy?

iatb.gourav said:
^^^ Can you guess which was the 1st shop I went ??
It was Nokia Priority !!!

And then, I went to e-zone, mobile store and a wholesale shop too !!!

The Black model is running out of stocks.
The silver one is available though !

in these types of cases i throw some cash as advance and get what i need very easily. No need to roam abt and waste more time.
Even n73 me was out of stock when i went to get it but i got it in less than 12hrs with this technique. I cant stop myself frm laughing after seeing ur final decision.
SHAKE ME .SENSE ME. lol they sound nude :))

Well, you might have a lot of cash to throw but I don't.

And since the I am getting K850i @ Rs. 16150 /- , I've decided to go with that.
There is no harm in saving a few bucks ....

And read this thread from beginning. Someone had replied that if K850i was available around 16 - 17k then it'd be an excellent value for money.

In fact, AFAIK, most of you guys say that "amd" is a SE fanboy over here. But, I personally find that you all are Nokia guys.
When K850i was 19k, you all said it was overpriced.
Now, wen it, 16k, you say that "you cant stop myself frm laughing after seeing my final decision. "

I find this nothing but just shameless promotion of Nokia !!

Sorry if I sound to rude.
But, truth is always (or sometimes) harsh !!

a guy who has a budget of 20k says that he is not throwing money

OMG a guy who gets new handset every six month is saying that :))

. Truth is always harsh man .Accept it . I was not saying that throw your cash or burn it. I was saying pay some money in advance so that the set will be booked for you . Cant u even understand that :))

U want to buy k850i then its gud if you want it. But stating this that we guys are shamelessly promoting nokia makes me laugh more . becoz someone else is shamelessly promoting SE. only I am not saying this. Many more are saying :wink:

^^^

+1 .....

And Yeas Truth Is Harsh....

I thought eventually he will go for SE K850i.... that's not a bad choice as far as the consumer is happy.

Threadstarter - U shouldn't have started this thread coz' u had already made up ur mind 4 K850i before starting the thread. What was the use of such a lengthy discussion. Just a wastage of time....U shouldn't have taken our opinions...

Anyways congrats 4 the K850i...Enjoy ur phone when u take it...

iatb.gourav said:
Well, you might have a lot of cash to throw but I don't.

And since the I am getting K850i @ Rs. 16150 /- , I've decided to go with that.
There is no harm in saving a few bucks ....

And read this thread from beginning. Someone had replied that if K850i was available around 16 - 17k then it'd be an excellent value for money.

In fact, AFAIK, most of you guys say that "amd" is a SE fanboy over here. But, I personally find that you all are Nokia guys.
When K850i was 19k, you all said it was overpriced.
Now, wen it, 16k, you say that "you cant stop myself frm laughing after seeing my final decision. "

I find this nothing but just shameless promotion of Nokia !!

Sorry if I sound to rude.
But, truth is always (or sometimes) harsh !!

what a waste .. we all have wasted our time helping a guy like u .. u think we are promoter of nokia .. r u out of ur mind .. u cant even see who's a fanboy and who's not ..in future i am not wasting my time on such meaningless threads .. instead of thanking us ur calling all these guys fanboys .. wow! infact u and few others are shamelessly promoting se here .. and all know that .. period..

LOL...gawd....i never thought my posts would bring up such an uproar...newaz..i pledge not to post here in anyones thread anymore..go buy whatever mobile you want..i will however give in my inputs in the official sony ericsson thread..and will put up my own thread sometime if i feel the need to..anyways....go play with your n82..i doubt how many of you have even touched the mobiles you boast about..atleast i dont...

kudos..cheers..

^^^^^
i am very much happy with my n82 .. but after helping someone for a such a long thread he calls very one a fanboy when he is blinded my fanboyism ..

^^^.....

the punch line......

:sarcastic:...

The world is beyond the crystal ball that u call nice

On a side not...WTF.....16k.... boy o boy..i think i am looing at my next phone...

how come so cheap so soon....

Well, first of all I am sorry if I called you all as Nokia fanboys.
Perhaps I said that in the heat of the moment !!
Sorry again !!

Secondly, when I say that my budget is 20k does not necessarily mean that I'll have to use up all of my money.

And then, if you all think that this thread is a waste then it think over it again.

N82 is a better phone than K850i. I have said it many times. In fact, I had even made up my mind to go with it. It's the price fall in K850i that made me change my decision.

Also, even when N82 is a better phone, K850i too has its own advantages over N82.
Just hold both the phones and play different songs in both of them at full volume. The difference in loudness is so huge that you won't be able to know which song is being played on the N82.
In addition the battery life of K850i is much better.
And then, the fantastic looks of K850i beats N82 quite easily.

Now don't tell me that N82 has a wifi, gps, symbian OS etc etc ...
I'll won't be using them in any case so it does not matter to me.
So I don't find any use of spending an additional 4k to buy N82 instead of K850i.

Sorry, I if I wasted your time. And I hope that I have made myself clear !!!

oh dude!! 385 posts gone to waste

amd64_man2005 said:
LOL...gawd....i never thought my posts would bring up such an uproar...newaz..i pledge not to post here in anyones thread anymore..quote]
thank you. finally peace in the forum.

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iatb.gourav said:
And read this thread from beginning. Someone had replied that if K850i was available around 16 - 17k then it'd be an excellent value for money.

I guess u read posts selectively. Read this thread again from beginning. Majority have also replied that N82 is a better phone than K850i :))

iatb.gourav said:
Now don't tell me that N82 has a wifi, gps, symbian OS etc etc ...
I'll won't be using them in any case so it does not matter to me.
So I don't find any use of spending an additional 4k to buy N82 instead of K850i.

Sorry, I if I wasted your time. And I hope that I have made myself clear !!!

If u r so clear that u r never going to use Wifi, GPS & Symbian then there was no need to consider the N82 and start this thread.

And make sure u r going to use a 5 MP camera. Because tomorrow if u say that u don't require a 5 MP cam also, then u don't need a K850i as well because if u leave aside advanced features such as GPS & Wifi then there are many other phones to choose from.

@nikeel
he is not going to admit it dude. read the thread again he was inclined to the k850 from the very beginning.

iatb.gourav said:
Which one looks better ... the blue or the green one ???

Green. The blue model has silver on its sides which does not look that great to me. Green is fully black which looks great. Well that's my opinions anyway.

nikeel said:
Majority have also replied that N82 is a better phone than K850i

Of course N82 is a better phone than K850i.
Even I agree to that.

But, I find that K850i will be more value for money to me. So I am going for it.
Had I been spending 20k, then I'd have surely got a N82 !!!
In the same way, if the prices of N82 drop overnight, then I'll get it and not k850i !!

I don't want to spend 4k for the features which I am not going to use !!

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iatb.gourav said:
I don't want to spend 4k for the features which I am not going to use !!

Has the price of K850i dropped everywhere or u r getting a special price somewhere?

BTW, the difference is just over 3k.

he is getting a special price

even i confirmed in mobile store they stay it's price is 18.3k

*www.themobilestore.in/mobilestore/...2=&k3=&k4=&k5=&k6=&k7=&k8=&k9=&k10=&k11=&k12=

i dunno how futurebazaar is giving for that

for sure i think there is something wrong .................
or it is a steal

and for the N82 sound you are telling just change the equalizer preset to rock or create a new preset with everything full

krates said:
or it is a steal

Thats what I've been saying for so long !!!

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iatb.gourav said:
Thats what I've been saying for so long !!!

When r u buying it then?

BTW just 4 more posts reqd for this thread to reach 400

cybershot branding is more than enough to be convinced.I got K810i for the same matter.
IMO ,you spending almost Rs8000 more to get K850i is the most wasting of your money.In that case N82 serves better. (K810i after pricedrop is 10600)

Why?because K850i isnt a big difference from K810i.apart from a 5MP camera. this 3.2MP camera is more than enough IMHO.

spend your money wisely

For me, K810i will serve may be one year fine.almost all people I asked admire this phone

proud of purchasing this model

^^ Fully agree with praka.

@praka +1
next poster will be given free k850i frm sony . :))

btw mujhe fone lena hota toh main kab ka le chuka hota. I cant wait so long

^^ +12

praka123 said:
cybershot branding is more than enough to be convinced.I got K810i for the same matter.
IMO ,you spending almost Rs8000 more to get K850i is the most wasting of your money.In that case N82 serves better. (K810i after pricedrop is 10600)

Why?because K850i isnt a big difference from K810i.apart from a 5MP camera. this 3.2MP camera is more than enough IMHO. spend your money wisely

For me, K810i will serve may be one year fine.almost all people I asked admire this phone proud of purchasing this model

Ya u r completely right...K810i is an awesome phone with a great cam (the best in 3.2 MP category)...I had decided 2 get it initially. Then, I extended my budget and thought of going 4 the N82...

I think one should either get K810i and save money as u said or go for N82 straightaway...Another option is to wait for 2 months coz by then the N82 will come down 2 17k hopefully and then get it...I am waiting for this too so that I can get the N82....

used both k850i,n82 and g800 today. k850's navigation was a bit tricky but got hold of it eventually but i still didnt understand the softkeys too crappy. n82 was way better dpad was better. automatic screen rotation is also great in n82 works in all the menu's. but imho if you want a phone for camera uses only better buy the samsung g800.

Phew!! So finally kya decide kiya? N82 or K850??

^^too much indecision :))

now please don't bump this thread again anyone seriously

is thread ko dekhkar kar mehnat bekar gayi lagta hai :-(

^^Report this thread.

ya in the end this thread has become totally a waste....

as i said before .. waste of our time

^^gyani logo ko samjhane se time waste hi hota hai yogi bhai

not a waste!I am sure many will find this thread very useful(even It was for me!)

who has patience to go over 400 post thread to find out that cyberflop is better than n82 .. hee hee .. seriously, its good for others but its too lengthy thread to read ..

H

ppl who r in 4 a new fone in that 20k budget will find this thread usefull.

@girish.g why did ya suggest G800?i've seen that fone and reviews also suggest that N82 is better than G800 in every way?

i also read the reviews but when i used them both found the g800 camera better to use. it also has optical zoom, that too for just 17k something.

Hii guys ...

I've finally got my cell ...

And it's N82 Black .... !!!
After holding it, it didn't look as ugly as the silver one, so I decided to go for it !
Though, I still need to get hold of the keypad though.
And, it's camera is fantastic. Overall speed is also good.

And lots of thanks to you all guys. I would not have got this masterpiece if you all had not advised me.

Now, I need to get another cell for my brother. Around 10 - 15k. What do you all say about it? I am thinking to get Samsung i450 ...

Congrats for your N82.Is it(samsung i450) available in India.Samsung i450 is in the same league of music phones where n91,n81 stands.Must recommended.

H

^^^ get N73ME.

^w890. To fulfil your SE cravings.
And congrats.

Thanks to you all once again !!!!

Yes the Samsung i450 is available for around 13k !
But, I am not very sure about it.

The shopkeeper did tell me that it was the best ever music handset.
But, I have no idea ....

What about SE w910i ??? Any other options?

iatb.gourav said:
Thanks to you all once again !!!!

The shopkeeper did tell me that it was the best ever music handset.
But, I have no idea ....

Yup, and according to Eldar review

in my opinion, when put up against the Nokia N91, the Samsung i450 comes out on top in this battle of music departments. The same goes for the Samsung i450 vs Apple iPhone derby

*www.mobile-review.com/review/samsung-i450-en.shtml

@Gourav - Many Many congrats for ur new phone...Finally u got the N82....

I think u shud get either SE k810i or N73ME for ur brother....

Great !!!
Atleast i am happy now

iatb.gourav said:
Hii guys ...

I've finally got my cell ...

And it's N82 Black .... !!!
After holding it, it didn't look as ugly as the silver one, so I decided to go for it !
Though, I still need to get hold of the keypad though.
And, it's camera is fantastic. Overall speed is also good.

And lots of thanks to you all guys. I would not have got this masterpiece if you all had not advised me.

Now, I need to get another cell for my brother. Around 10 - 15k. What do you all say about it? I am thinking to get Samsung i450 ...

Congrats! For your brother I'll recommend getting a W890i.

congrats!you got VFM on your purchase

Congrats. Wts ur bro's need. Choose accordingly. ;-)

johnjjx said:
Wts ur bro's need.

Nothing in particular actually. Good camera, good music, descent looks and battery life would do.

Also, I've heard a lot about c902? How much will it be priced? And by when will it be available?

finally. the thread is not wasted and congrats on your purchase.

^^^ thanks, but wat about my new phone ???

okey, one simple question: Samsung i450 vs SE w910 . Who wins?

i450,w910 for the showoff stuff.

showoff is always a nice thing to do. But not at the expense of quality.
And, which one would be better ... a Symbian OS 9.2, Series 60 v3.1 UI with 3D sound i450 or the ever popular walkman branded w910 ?

IMO, i450 is better than W910i.

^^^ is that on the fact that it's symbian or bcz or music ?

both

@iatb.gourav congrats for N82...

iatb.gourav said:
^^^ is that on the fact that it's symbian or bcz or music ?

As Girish said, both. i450's music quality is above that of the Walkmans and the fact that it's a Symbian is the icing on the cake. Only advantage of W910i is that it's slimmer and has accelerometer. Whether these features are important or not depends upon the preferences of your brother.

Btw I just remembered that you can also get a N81 under 15k. This phone is even better than i450. I'll suggest you go for N81. It'll also sound nice, small brother-N81, elder brother-N82.

krazzy said:
Btw I just remembered that you can also get a N81 under 15k. This phone is even better than i450. I'll suggest you go for N81. It'll also sound nice, small brother-N81, elder brother-N82.

It's not that I need to be strictly under 15k. I can increase my budget if required.

Anyways, has anyone used i450?
I want to know about the loudness of music ?
Secondly, is it slow like other symbian phones?

Congrats on your purchase.
Nice decision mate

^^^ thnx.

but please help me on getting another one.
I am totally confused.

1st I thought of Samsung i450, but then I knew that it's volume is not that loud so I dont want to go for it.

Now, I want to know that how does SE w910 perform as a music phone?
Also, is there a huge gap in music capabilities between K850i and W910 ???

If you can increase your budget to 16k then why not get a k850..

samsung alwayz obliged me with their awesme display quality....n sleek finish...
i stil love sony for music.....Nokia is great...but sluggish most of times....n being using sony for yrs...makes me stay away frm nokia..

Why Not get a Samsung G900 ,,its around 19000 and has every thing u want ...have a look at this phone once

*www.indiagsm.com/viewdetails.php?type=GSM&pid=448&brand=Samsung

I've used a few low end Samsung and wasn't impressed at all by them.
That's why I am not very keen on getting them.

My main priority is "music - loud & clear", of course backed up by a good battery life.
That's why I decided to go with SE w910.
At the same time, I don't mind having a good camera also.

If the k850i is not far behind w910 in terms of playing music then I'll get that.
Or else, I'll have to compromise on the camera part by getting w910.

Now, please help me decide ...

i guess i saw a post somewhere comparing the k850 and the n81 here..music wise that is..if you are not sure check gsmarena for further info..

^^ That was N81 vs W960i, not K850i.

Gourav if you want loud and clear music and a good camera, then get a N73 ME. You can also check out 5610/6500 Slide which also have a powerful loudspeaker and a good camera.

*www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=88713

Choose between N81or i450.K850 is better than W910i(music wise)

k850 is better than most phones out there according to gsmarena tests...also try the samsung i550 or the W890..

Nokia N81 or SE K850i

rumour is there that N73 production ceased.

^^ Will..

Don't go for Samsung. The battery backup of Samsung and LG sucks....

If music is ur priority, go for the N73 ME...With latest firmwares, it is not at all sluggish now. Its music quality is excellent....

If u want an excellent cam and good music but not the best as compared to N73 ME, then go for the K810i...

wait for w980i 8 gigs of memory in such a sleek phone.

if music is a priority dont go for nokia...

the n78, which was rumoured to be at par with the n91 has failed miserably in the gsmarena tests..and it carries the same audio chip as the n91...i suggest, if not samsung, then nokia w890..sleek and powerful and a good 3 mp cam..my frnd has it...really sleek..

thanks guys.

i've got myself a n73 me.
Nice phone ... esp the sound. The camera is very slow though.

Anyways, thanks for helping me once again !

Keep rocking !!!

Congrats for the phone.

congrats once again.

iatb.gourav said:
thanks guys.

i've got myself a n73 me.
Nice phone ... esp the sound. The camera is very slow though.

Anyways, thanks for helping me once again !

Keep rocking !!!

WOW! That was quick!

Congrats on your purchase!

iatb.gourav said:
thanks guys.

i've got myself a n73 me.
Nice phone ... esp the sound. The camera is very slow though.

Anyways, thanks for helping me once again !

Keep rocking !!!

a new fw is released recently which removes the slowness of the cam and improves night shots and ram performance. Update to that fw and njoy .its 4.0808.

Don't you think that his phone came with latest fw pre-installed.

iatb.gourav said:
thanks guys.

i've got myself a n73 me.
Nice phone ... esp the sound. The camera is very slow though.

Anyways, thanks for helping me once again !

Keep rocking !!!

@Gourav
This time u have been really quick with ur purchase. The N73 ME is a great phone..Great Music and lovely cam....

Many Many congratulations to you....Enjoy ur phone....

Check the firmware...If it is old, update it...Then u will not have any complaints whatsoever...

utsav said:
a new fw is released recently which removes the slowness of the cam and improves night shots and ram performance. Update to that fw and njoy .its 4.0808.

Thanks for the tip.

uppalpankaj said:
@Gourav
This time u have been really quick with ur purchase. The N73 ME is a great phone..Great Music and lovely cam....

Many Many congratulations to you....Enjoy ur phone....

Check the firmware...If it is old, update it...Then u will not have any complaints whatsoever...

I was quick coz I needed it urgently.

Congrats.

guys, one silly question

I M buying a Nokia N82 next month. I will either use Airtel or Idea EDGE service on it. Is there any torrent client for Symbian OS? Will it be possible for me to download TV shows like Heroes or House from Torrent in the mobile phone & save to phone's memory card?

I don't have a computer here yet, so I want to know whether I can download 110 MB Videos from Torrents in phone & see in phone.

symtorrent

@ gx_saurav

Just recently got an Nokia N82 Black and i love it and i am sure you will too.

Use SymTorrent
*www.aut.bme.hu/portal/SymTorrent.aspx?lang=en

It can also use wifi for faster downloads than Edge.

I use it to download files as big as 750Mb on my 2gb card. I suggest you get yourself a 8gb card if you download a lot.

Cheers

means downloading using Torrent clients in phone itself is possible.

now, is downloading such big files allowed on Airtel or Idea EDGE Service?

I don't need more then 2 GB Card which is free with phone. I m using 512 MB card with K750i, but even that isn't full.

All I want is to use my phone as a computer.

Yep SymTorrent is an symbian application and its runs on S60 Platform 3rd and 2nd edition and yes it runs on the phone and downloads files into the memory card.

I have used it with Airtel edge and wifi and works perfectly.

I think Utsav here too is downloading stuff over torrents directly on his Symbian phone. So I have no doubt N82 can do that as well. One just needs an unlimited gprs connection.

Enjoying download speed of 25-26 KBps on N82 by using Symtorrent

.

@gx_saurav - No problems downloading via symtorrent... no file limitation nothing... Just your phone becomes unreachable(You won't be able to receive call & SMS) while downloading is in progress.

Myself I download via Symtorrent.

good then. which EDGE service is good in Delhi then for my use?

I can switch to airtel if they give free local & STD SMS like Idea. I really like Idea's phone service.

i will check N82 & Idea EDGE in Delhi. If it is good for me then I will use unlimited Idea EDGEd else switch to Airtel/Vodafone.

I m bringing my computer to Delhi next week & till we get Airtel or MTNL broadband we will be using EDGE in computer for net

krazzy said:
I think Utsav here too is downloading stuff over torrents directly on his Symbian phone. So I have no doubt N82 can do that as well. One just needs an unlimited gprs connection.

i have downloaded 5 gb using my n73 me on Airtel Mobile office in the last 15 days :shock:

symtorrent rocks

.UCWEB rocks for direct file downloads. Symtorrent helps me to save electric bill :))

@cool g5 i can receive calls and smses and also make calls and sms while symtorrent is running .it shows a msg packet data on hold when i receive a sms or call. As soon as the call ends packet data connection resumes automatically

utsav said:
i have downloaded 5 gb using my n73 me on Airtel Mobile office in the last 15 days symtorrent rocks .UCWEB rocks for direct file downloads. Symtorrent helps me to save electric bill
@cool g5 i can receive calls and smses and also make calls and sms while symtorrent is running .it shows a msg packet data on hold when i receive a sms or call. As soon as the call ends packet data connection resumes automatically

wow, thatz great....

utsav said:
i have downloaded 5 gb using my n73 me on Airtel Mobile office in the last 15 days symtorrent rocks .UCWEB rocks for direct file downloads. Symtorrent helps me to save electric bill
@cool g5 i can receive calls and smses and also make calls and sms while symtorrent is running .it shows a msg packet data on hold when i receive a sms or call. As soon as the call ends packet data connection resumes automatically

Airtel ko bahut loot raha hai

Accha hai mein bhi loot raha hu, par tere jitna nahi.

Aur phone unreachable kabhi-kabhi hota hai, har baar nahi. Jab heavy downloading chal raha ho tab hi.

Congrats Gourav for your N73me.....

Cool G5 said:
Airtel ko bahut loot raha hai

Wo jaese ki hume kum loot-te hain....Saale Bangladesh border pe International roaming pe jaane se pehle pooch-te tak nahi....

But I think it was my fault, Network selection was AUTOMATIC......

N73 is a great fone

btw bhai ke liye lena tha ton jyaada research nahi :lol:

Rofl...... :lol:

This thread was the ultimate thread.....It was just for deciding a 20K phone but it became the battleground of Nokia and SE. This thread was even used for discussing new launches and by many other people to decide their phone..... :lol:

Congrats gaurav. Meesa njoyin hackd airtel gprs via teashark. Can v connect with pc using same hack? If so then how?