20K Lag Free Phone · DIGIT-ARC

I want to replace my pathetic Galaxy 3 (Apollo). been fed up of it. My main requirement is a responsive phone with good battery backup.
I am also fed up with Samsung not providing proper fixes for issues... infact with Android . I can also wait for mid range Windows 8 Phones. currently I don't see any announced for my budget.

1. Budget?
~~15K -17K~~ 20K no more.. already raised it from 17K..

2. Display type and size?
I have small palm, I noticed that 4" screen will be difficult to navigate with single hand. So screen size is less than 4"

3. Form Factor? bar, slider, flip?
Bar. I like the form factor of T-Mobile Sidekick, but its not available in India

4. Preferred choice of brand?
Samsung is not the first priority, I will avoid local brands.

5. Preferred input method (QWERTY, touchscreen, numpad, touch-n-type).
1. Touch, if there are Qwerty mobiles I would like to know about them as well.

6. What camera option you want? Please specify need for flash, autofocus, front facing camera.
Im not a shutterbug so not a priority, but the photos should not turn out too pathetic.

7. Preferred operating system? (Android, Symbian, iOS, Windows Phone etc).
Android or Windows (can wait)

8. Preferred connectivity options (3G, Wifi etc)Please specify clearly.
3G

9. Preferred applications (Flash, Swype, GPS, etc)?
Flash not required. GPS - Yes. DLNA would be a added advantage.

10. Primary use of handset (multimedia, camera, mails, internet, gaming etc)?
3G usage. Mails and Browsing. not much into small screen gaming (

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11. Any specific mobile phones in consideration?
I was thinking about Xperia U, but I was very disappointed after using that phone for a while. I considered Galaxy Advance S, but looks like there is some issue with battery.

12. Any other info that you want to share
Things I will be using for.
Browsing / Data heavy apps.
E-Mails
"maybe" watch some streaming videos for an 30 mins or so while traveling.
Sync will always be on.
~~full time on 3G~~ will switch to 2G during non usage to save battery

Battery should last for 13 hrs. This is the time I spend outside my home every working day (obviously I wont be using it continuously)

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I am too in same condition no good phone in 15k range.. tired of using Galaxy 5 (europa)

Sony Xperia U: Price in India, Reviews, Specification: Flipkart.com
Price: Rs. 16499 Instant Cashback Rs. 400 = Rs.16,099

@s18.. check point 11

but tell us why were you disappointed. btw, Sony Live with Walkman, similar hw, small size. price= ~13.5k

I found it laggy.

Xperia Ray?

Neo l? htc one v?
Well see samsung will come out with a new phone-rumored to be Galaxy s3 mini-it might be anywhere near 15-17k why not get that If it is in that price?

it could be that your friend had installed some app that caused lag/too many apps trying to access internet at same time... because it has dual core 1GHz CPU & 512MB RAM, must be some RAM hogging app causing the lag.
anyways, in that budget, only Sony are giving upgrade option to Android 4.0

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Droids in that range will end up laggy- better to look at Windows models- the Omnia or Lumia 710

theserpent said:
Neo l? htc one v?
Well see samsung will come out with a new phone-rumored to be Galaxy s3 mini-it might be anywhere near 15-17k why not get that If it is in that price?

S3 mini would b no way near 17k.. it will b almost btw 24-25k margin like S advance when it was launched..

Rcuber

Yeah S advance has some battery issues..
Bt htc n sony andros both fails in terms of battery backup against sammy's andros :cry:

Sam said:
Xperia Ray?

Xperia Ray is a year old phone

theserpent said:
Neo l? htc one v?
Well see samsung will come out with a new phone-rumored to be Galaxy s3 mini-it might be anywhere near 15-17k why not get that If it is in that price?

Neo L negative.. reviews state laggy interface . HTC Onc V is in contention, my colleague has it. and im impressed with the design and response.

s18000rpm said:
it could be that your friend had installed some app that caused lag/too many apps trying to access internet at same time... because it has dual core 1GHz CPU & 512MB RAM, must be some RAM hogging app causing the lag.
anyways, in that budget, only Sony are giving upgrade option to Android 4.0

I actually went to finalize on Xperia U in Chroma Store. I saw the demo there itself. not much apps were instlled..

achyutaghosh said:
Droids in that range will end up laggy- better to look at Windows models- the Omnia or Lumia 710

yes. I do know Android issues. I will not invest in a Win 7/7.5 mobiles now. only on Win 8 if there are any good phones.

funskar said:
S3 mini would b no way near 17k.. it will b almost btw 24-25k margin like S advance when it was launched..

Rcuber

Yeah S advance has some battery issues..
Bt htc n sony andros both fails in terms of battery backup against sammy's andros

cr@p .. HTC was my first choice ..

any way how is Galaxy S Duos? dual sim would eat up battery .. so will be using only one sim , GSM arena states 3G talktime as 7.30 hrs.

EDIT: With Great Power Comes Crappy Battery!!

s duos good phone.But its single core right?
But i suggest you try to wait still diwali for crazy offers

There are no 'crazy' offers

theserpent said:
s duos good phone.But its single core right?
But i suggest you try to wait still diwali for crazy offers

I like xperia sola...its daam cheap at ebay.

Xperia Sola in contention

.. but only 5 Hrs talk time on 3G

Sony mobiles have poor battery backup.
High end Android phone do lag and slow [owns S2] when compare to Apple

I prefer Windows 8 phone for u, wait till Windows 8 release [this month end]

RCuber said:
cr@p .. HTC was my first choice ..

any way how is Galaxy S Duos? dual sim would eat up battery .. so will be using only one sim , GSM arena states 3G talktime as 7.30 hrs.

EDIT: With Great Power Comes Crappy Battery!!

No need to get Gsd ..

And you can look for sola it is going for 17k on Hs18 Superdeals..

funskar said:
No need to get Gsd ..

And you can look for sola it is going for 17k on Hs18 Superdeals..

amjath said:
Sony mobiles have poor battery backup.
High end Android phone do lag and slow [owns S2] when compare to Apple

I prefer Windows 8 phone for u, wait till Windows 8 release [this month end]

yes.. some of my colleagues also said the Sony battery is a bit poor.

I am waiting for vendors to announce more Windows 8 Phones. HTC 8S looks wonderful but I guess the entry point will be 25K+

^ Nokia and Samsung know very well about marketing in India, so I'm damn sure Nokia might come up with more phones and Sammy too

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iPhone 3GS maybe ??

^^ yes.. but future support may not be available or would be too week in a year or so. I can consider iPhone 4 from US. still would cost me 27K which is over budget.

i still suggest you wait still october end

. Many new cells will come out + diwali offers.
Nexus 2 might come out

Yea 8x/s is sexy

....take that iphone

^^ yes I will ..

also vist reliance digital they sometimes have good offers,I Once got a 5k coupon when i bought a lappy

Remember you won't even get a single android phone which doesn't lag or lags less, that too below 20k not possible.

iphone 4 should cost around 20k or so now, my friend got 4S from dubai around half a year back for only 33k, as the iphone 5 is there now, iphone 4 should not cost you that much.

Heard lumia 920 will be priced at only 30k. so expect HTC 8S at ~20k unless HTC forgets this is India. should be an excellent grab if priced as expected if screen size is acceptable.

Sam said:
Heard lumia 920 will be priced at only 30k. so expect HTC 8S at ~20k unless HTC forgets this is India. should be an excellent grab if priced as expected if screen size is acceptable.

Lumia 920 is priced more than SIII .. Nokia confirms Lumia 920 price and cost more than Galaxy S3

just wait for xperia t series

if warrenty is not an issue then xperia p @ 18k w/o bill...best vfm..dont go for xperia u..

one v or sola i guess

Rcuber Nokia budget wp8 n lumia 820..

And again Htc sucks in battery backup in front of Nokia n sammy..
If u wanna buy wp8 fone better to get nokia due to awesome service support n nokia drive

^^ double check what you said. 510 is WP7.5/7.8 with seriously lowend specs.

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getting an android phone without lag is difficult.. every phone in the range 15-17k gives you the 512 ram which is not sufficient...if you have checked sam's post only 3 phones which have more than 512 ram
1. s adavance -
2. s duos- dual sim phone...
3. attrix -in all the 3 devices moto attrix is the best..but its out of your budget.

attrix is the best device but out of your bodget. galaxy s advance costs 18500/-in local shops...guess it is out of your budget too..
s duos looks like a good alternative to me.

it is accepted hat dual sim needs more battery, but there will not be drastic difference in the battery life.

now, if you listen to your heart... i think you need

htc one v- awesome phone, 3.7' screen, lasts for a day with average 2g usage, overall a good package.. i used for few days ,it doesn't lag ...lags only if you run too many applications together... use some memory managing app for it...

hope this helps

funskar said:
Rcuber Nokia 510 budget wp8 n lumia 800..

Lumia 800 is 22k+

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I have edited it..

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Any windows phone. See if u get omnia w

Atrix 2 is good?

i'm a little flexible with the budget.

stock Android is mostly lag free. Once you start applying themes and UI (sense, touchwiz, blur) even quad core have problem dealing with all those junk. my mobile with an ancient qualcomm arm11 processor is mostly smooth. Triple buffering (Jelly beans, project butter) will increase smoothness but mayn't succeed in eliminating the rare lag.

Atrix2 have best hardware under 20k, at the expense of lame or almost no service here.

^^ would you recommend me to stay away from Motorola on the sole point of the service being pathetic??

mobiles generally don't go bad unless water or moisture enters. so getting Atrix2 for me is a safe risk. Load it with pure AOSP Android 4.1 rom to unleash the beast. Atrix2 is perfect for you if you load custom rom as it got hardware comparable to Galaxy S2 & Sensation XE.

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RCuber said:
Atrix 2 is good?

i'm a little flexible with the budget.

yes, its an awesome device...you get almost everything in that 20k of price..

decent processor, 1gb ram, good internal, good camera..

only problem i have heard is that moto is closing it's plants in south asia...not sure about..it..
another point is its 4.3' screen...ur requirement was 3.7,,

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1. Any windows phone. Though small-budget ones will lag while running some games/apps. very smooth ui even smaller budget phones..
2.iphone, get 2nd hand. older iphones like 3gs will lag when running latest ios 6 or even 5. iphone 4 will do fine.
3.Any jelly bean phone. custom or stock. in case of custom os, check vids on youtube.

Don't hear to anyone saying this android phones doesn't lag or that one doesn't lag..hell even htc one x lags on ics sometimes. only jelly bean is smooth. but due to hardware limitations, some older devices with custom jelly bean roms don't run as smooth as they must .see youtube or xda forums.

Soo.... I think I have to raise my budget to 20K :/ .. I hate spending money for such a tiny thing as a phone.. ( I would rather spend the money for a GFX card

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EDIT: budget raised to 20K, mods.. edit the thread title to 20K Lag Free Phone. "Please

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RCuber said:
Soo.... I think I have to raise my budget to 20K :/ .. I hate spending money for such a tiny thing as a phone.. ( I would rather spend the money for a GFX card )

EDIT: budget raised to 20K, mods.. edit the thread title to 20K Lag Free Phone. "Please "

Edit=nitroboast

ok . my friend colleague had bought Xperia P for 20K from ebay.. let me ask if he is having any trouble with it

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all andro mobile give u lag sooner or later . even S3 is not exception for that .

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where the i phone4 is selling in 20k please tell.

^^^^^
You can get it at that price in abroad only.

Using Xperia U since 2 and half months havn't noticed any lag at all, Scrolling is smooth as butter..(Even while playing hd games like Modern Combat 3 etc.)
And battery backup is quite good for me atleast with moderate usage it lasts about a day and bit more.

^All that comes with limited storage

I think I would eventually be going for Sola or Atrix 2 or S Advance( less likely ). .let me check it a store on how these models "feel"..

Hmm. I don't know why you guys hate the S Advance so much. I have been using my friend's extensively, the battery is good(lasts a day and a half easily) and the performance too is good enough(comparable to S2, have used both personally). And now it's also getting the Jelly Bean update. Why don't you consider it??

if u r looking for atrix 2..then just get it..dont look for sola in front of atrix 2 ever..atrix 2 => best vfm in that budget..

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just a quick glance and my feedback at all posts

1.i was playing temple run on experia u and htc one v....xperia's touch was really very responsive. on htc one, i missed my jumps or direction for atleast 4-5 times...i was shocked, because on paper htc one v looked so good..

2. motorola attrix is less likely to get official ics..forget jellybean...AOSP Android 4.1 like sam sugegsted if you are a tech freak..

3. all andro phones will give u lag, i wont agree...' every smart phone will lag,sometime in future..' because new better apps,games will keep coming..you can't keep your phone in fashion for more than 2 years..

4.sola vs attrix vs s advance.. difficult decision to make...
i have heard that s advance has some network issues...sola looks better ..attrix2 is the best choice..considering a small risk..

5. iphone 4 in 20 k is every Indian's dream.... apple will rather discontinue it..

I just got this news

Atrix 2 - ICS

.. specs are almost similar to Galaxy SII, so im pretty satisfied with the specs.

Software Upgrade 67.21.125 Android™ 4.0.4 (Ice Cream Sandwich) for MOTOROLA ATRIX 2.

this guy got OTA update

RCuber said:
Lumia 920 is priced more than SIII .. Nokia confirms Lumia 920 price and cost more than Galaxy S3

Dude for your budget better to buy Galaxy S Advance. It has the best specs and screen and will be guaranteed get Jelly bean update by samsung soon. And yes you are right sony's timescape UI is quite laggy.

^^ Low battery capacity on Advance is a major negative..

you bought it???? congrats

No, it's 1500 mAH would last a day in normal usage. BTW Congrats! for your Atrix 2.

I haven't bought it yet.. videos I found on YT. I have almost decided on Atrix 2 based on the following.

Larger Battery
good price range. 19K - I would get a discount on
Larger Screen( though I hate it) - Xperia P within 20K doesn't come with Manufacturer warranty.
ICS has just been released for Atrix 2.
and I want to try and avoid Samsung this time.

EDIT: I just noticed the typo in one of my previous post.it was suppose to be "I just got this news" instead I typed "I just got this new"

Go ahead...motorola might be releasing jb update in future too...bookmark this page..

Galaxy S advance has 0 custom rom support.
Motorola devices are crap. No after sale plus no customer service etc.

^^ you didn't give any alternate suggestion :lol:

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Nighthawk12 said:
Galaxy S advance has 0 custom rom support.
Motorola devices are crap. No after sale plus no customer service etc.

^^^^this. except crap part.
Also read this : *www.thinkdigit.com/forum/buying-ad...-down-shud-i-still-go-motorola-atrix-2-a.html

RCuber said:
^^ you didn't give any alternate suggestion

For totally lag free android, i already said, go for phones with jelly bean or are certain to get JB update soon.

will take the risk of going for Motorola Atrix 2 :-?

..

19,200 on FK. cheapest on ebay is ~19,800 and that product doesn't take coupons.. so I am stuck with FK..

Trust me don't go for motorola devices their customer service is absolute ****.
Better go for Xperia Sola(Got ICS has expandable memory it will get CM 9.1 soon Same with Xperia U) or(If you are ready to to use stock rom fot long)than Samsung galaxy S advance.
Atrox 2 has good hardware no doubt but Motorola service is...

okay.. agreed.. few of my friends also blasted me for choosing Motorola

.. so Atrix 2 dropped ..

I can see that instead of going for Atrix 2 with pathetic Moto service I can go for Xperia P with ServePro Warranty at 19K

.. ?? .. also galaxy nexus is temptingly at ~22K

GSM arena states that Galaxy Nexus gives a battery life on web browsing is only 3 hrs. IIRC they do this test on Wifi.. and talktime over 3G is 8hrs+ thats means I would get about 8hrs on 3G web browsing or Voice calls right??

I guess just voice calls they meant to say.. Coz they do browsing test entirely on wi-fi as far as I've seen the reviews... But nexus would be the best deal if u getting it under 21k..

RCuber said:
okay.. agreed.. few of my friends also blasted me for choosing Motorola .. so Atrix 2 dropped ..

I can see that instead of going for Atrix 2 with pathetic Moto service I can go for Xperia P with ServePro Warranty at 19K .. ?? .. also galaxy nexus is temptingly at ~22K

GSM arena states that Galaxy Nexus gives a battery life on web browsing is only 3 hrs. IIRC they do this test on Wifi.. and talktime over 3G is 8hrs+ thats means I would get about 8hrs on 3G web browsing or Voice calls right??

Arey wait 4-5 days..
And just keep checking Hs18 superdeals u will get Xperia p for 19k wid manufacturer warranty ..

Well GS3 Mini might be around 20k

~$500 .. somewhere around 26K INR

GS3 Mini is 25+
You should decide among - Xperia U, Xperia Sola, Samsung Galaxy S Advance
or today's release HTC Desire X.

and do tell what you buy and why you bought so since i have a similar budget and will be purchasing by Oct end.

Samsung Galaxy S Advance got battery Issues AFAIK
and Xperia U got less memory

Xperia U is totally not in my list.. I hate it

ill be waiting for couple of more days so see if there is any W8 Launches/Announcements.

Xperia U got ICS update today!
It's smooth as butter now and scores 2932 points on quadrant.
Although 6 gb might be less for some peoples but yeah..

Then go for Sola.

HTC Desire X: Price in India, Reviews, Specification: Flipkart.com

Desire X price droped to 19.8K .. how is this one?

EDIT: This phone looks like a #Fail :lol:

atleast on paper.

**** phone Htc One V is better than that

I will wait till Dussehra/Vijayadashami to see if any deals are there.. else I will go ahead with Galaxy Nexus..

Lag free android phone does not exist.
Android OS is not optimized yet to be lag free.

RCuber said:
Desire X price droped to 19.8K .. how is this one?

price dropped? what is HTC thinking? dual core A5 processor. Dual Core A9 (whole Xperia lineup, S Advanced) will thrash it over and over again.

RCuber said:
I will wait till Dussehra/Vijayadashami to see if any deals are there.. else I will go ahead with Galaxy Nexus..

why have you dropped Atrix2? Cause your friend said Motorola's service is bad? or the mobile itself sucks? Galaxy Nexus is better overall though.

^^ you are still confusing me

Argghh!!Just get the GS3 mini

doesn't look that strong enough..

GNext is a beast surely and best thing is, most DEVs have left their native mobiles for GNext.

theserpent said:
Argghh!!Just get the GS3 mini

take S Advanced and give it a remake. Thats S III Mini. Worth it?

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what is GNext ?

slang for Galaxy Nexus

@Rcuber, just get atrix 2 or galaxy nexus...fohget about all in front of these two...u not thinking about moto coz their shutting down service here?? nothing happens to the phone for the first year..n built of moto phones is great as we all know..n m sure u r not one time investor like u gonna use ur phone for 3-4 years or more...n nexus would be the best vfm buy...in front of atrix 2 too...

gs3 mini = xu = xsola = desire x = incomplete phones IN FRONT OF THESE TWO...what they are offering is great though...

if your budget was 15 or 16k then xperia u or sola would have been ideal in that price bracket...but as ur budget is 20k+ u should get nexus or atrix 2...

Sam said:
take S Advanced and give it a remake. Thats S III Mini. Worth it?

Only advantage of s3 mini is JB out of the box.

Not sure about s3 software tweaks in mini

S3 mini will be around 19-20k as Samsung galaxy S2 is 23k.

You should wait for a month or so.
GS3 Mini just might fall under/around 20k.
And if it does, it will be the best choice

After lot of breaking my head, checking various devices.. I finally Ordered Atrix 2 for 18999 from FK :lol:

.. it has got ICS update and JB should/"may" be out by year end.

^^ congrats. on the right track but JB most likely won't arrive on Atrix 2 as Atrix1 (Atrix 4G) is denied even ICS. But custom rom is anyday better than official JB

^^ Motorola CEO Dennis Woodside has stated that most mobiles released in 2011 will get JB.. else $100 credit

.. anyway i'm not worried about that right now. my phone battery got pregnant (read bloated and dead)..

Congrats.

congrats. I dont see any downside to it..

Service centre might be a problem but not for an year at least!

yea.. I am aware about the service issues.. still ~~taking~~ took a risk.

now I need to get a micro sim

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RCuber said:
After lot of breaking my head, checking various devices.. I finally Ordered Atrix 2 for 18999 from FK .. it has got ICS update and JB should/"may" be out by year end.

Congratulations. Given the budget you made the right choice.

thanks guys..

congrats..smart choice buddy..post pics n review...

lol FK already shipped it.. and I think I will be getting it tomorrow morning when I reach office at 11 AM

( I gave my office address ) .. I dont know if I will do any "work" tomorrow or not :lol:

RCuber said:
After lot of breaking my head, checking various devices.. I finally Ordered Atrix 2 for 18999 from FK .. it has got ICS update and JB should/"may" be out by year end.

COngrats.. put a review as soon u get it..
Btw its a great phone just like defy apart from moto service..
And you should have checkd out ebay atrix 2 wid 1 yr serve pro warranty fro 16k

tu 2 din office hi nahi jane wala hai guarantee..

Micro-sim?
And yes, do put up a review! Phones in this range are really confusing, reviews would be really helpful!

Got the phone in my hands

.. it was delivered in the morning itself.. but our courier handler guy didn't come till 4 PM :/ . i.e., the product was delivered within 24 hrs :O ..

Anyway .. the phone fits my hand... I was quite surprised with that.. first impression is okayish.. thickness is also fine .. will need to update to ICS once I reach home .. .. till then I cannot comment much about the performance..

Congos dude

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Congrats..and review plz

Update..

The phone is quite good. Talk time is excellent in 2G, but on 3G it does drain the battery, still manageable. voice calls I do it on 2G and when I need heavy browsing I switch to 3G. I have a 2G/3G switching app installed which is quite handy .. so I get full days charge with moderate to heavy use. Over wifi also the battery lasts longer. when on 3G.. the phone get a little warm. Stock ICS launcher is okayish. was using Go Launcher. but it lags just a little. I am trying out a couple of other launchers.

The LCD developed a stuck/dead pixel about two weeks ago. called up FK and after the initial trouble shooting they are replacing my unit. :thumbsup:

Pros:
good solid feeling phone.. doesn't feel cheap.
wont smash any speed records but wont lag behind either.
Glass is good. not a single scratch till now even without a screen protector
8BM onboard storage

apart form expandable storage

Cons
Not too bright, may be a little yellow tint.
Camera not too great but will do for casual snaps and recordings.
no Jelly Bean update. ICS 4.0.4 is the final official OTA update.

overall i'm very satisfied with the battery backup and performance of the device. FK keeps dropping the price .. currently its 18K, wait for another couple of weeks and it will drop to 16-17K.

I bought from FK cause of they 30day replacement policy(which is coming handy now) if I had gone for other vendors I might not have got this facility

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overall solid phone.

RCuber said:
Stock ICS launcher is okayish. was using Go Launcher. but it lags just a little. I am trying out a couple of other launchers.

i have used a ton of launchers and most launchers found at PlayStore have became so bloated that they actually degrade performance. Try the Xperia S launcher from XDA. Light and smooth with sufficient customization option. Should support qHD resolution.

RCuber said:
Not too bright, may be a little yellow tint.

it uses RGB display instead of RGBW (i guess RGBW is used in Razr) so less brightness but at least non-Pentile.

RCuber said:
no Jelly Bean update. ICS 4.0.4 is the final official OTA update.

at least you are led by false promises of JB update that later gets denied or update arrives a year late. No update means no update.

RCuber said:
currently its 18K, wait for another couple of weeks and it will drop to 16-17K.

its an EOL item. couple of weeks mean it'll disappear with the "permanently discontinued" tag.