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Shibaprasad
Shibaprasad Original post #1
Nov 14, 2011 at 9:48 AM
Need quick suggestions from Kolkata buyers

Only suggest hardware easily available in Kolkata (Mention Shop if possible)

Exclude Monitor(1600X900), HDD, keyboard, mouse, speaker(Already have those)
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1. What is the purpose of the computer?
A:Gaming,Movies

2. Are you open to alternate ideas/products giving similar better performance but offering more VFM/ sellers? If not- why?
A:Yes

3. What is your MAX budget?
A:35k

4. Planning to overclock?
A:May b

5. Which OS are you planning to use?
A:Win 7 X64

6. How much hard drive space is needed?
A:Have a 500GB Seagate

7. What resolution will the screen run at & whats the size of the screen you want? If you already want have one and want to use it, mention its resolution and size.
A:1600X900 60 Hz

8. How would you rate your hardware knowledge from the count of 1-10? (1 being the lowest, 5 being you are somewhat in sync with the current performers and 10 being the highest)
A:8

9. Have you ever built a desktop before or will this be done by an assembler?
A:yes I know how to assemble computer

10. When are you planning to buy the system?
A:ASAP

11. Are you one of the types looking out for "future proof" configurations?
A:Yes(min 5 years)

12. Are there going to be any components that you don't want to include in this new rig? If yes, do mention.
A:

13. Which city do you live in and are you open to buying from shops from other city/states?
A:Kolkata

14. Mention any other points if deemed necessary
A:
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Tarun #2
Nov 14, 2011 at 12:15 PM
CPU : Core i5 25ook RS.12ooo

Motherboard : Asus P8Z68-M PRO Z68
OR a Asus P8P67-M Motherboard for Rs.95oo

RAM : Corsair XM3 2x2GB DDR3 CMX4GX3M2A1600C9 Rs.2o5o

DVD writer : Asus DRW-24B3ST DVD Burner Rs.115o

Cabinet : Coolermaster Elite 310 (RC-310) Rs. 19ooi m sure u will get in ~1.7k locally
PSU : Corsair 500W CX PSU Rs.3ooo or
FSP SAGA II 500w PSU for ~Rs.25oo
or a Corsair CX430 V2 for Rs.22oo(dont go under this)
if u dont think of upgrading ur monitor to Full HD(1920x1080) then a HD 6770(Rs.63oo)or a GTS 450 RS.64oowill do
spend another 1500 buck or cut cabinet to Zebronics bijli for 13oo and RAMs to Corsair Value Pack 1333 Mhz 2GB Rs.8oo (2x2=16oo){i wouldn't recommend this}
Cilus
Cilus #3
Nov 14, 2011 at 12:33 PM
I'm assuming that you already have a Monitor; so excluding it from the suggested rig:-

Intel Core i5 2400 @ 9K (Kolkata price, check in Vedant)
Intel DH67BL-B3 @ 5.1K
Corsair Value 4 GB 1333 MHz DDR3 @ 1.2K
MSI Cyclone HD 6850 @ 9.8K
Logitec MK200 Keyboard & Mouse @ 0.7K
Corsair GS600 PSU @ 4K
NZXT Gamma Cabinet @ 2.3K
Intex 1000 VA UPS @ 2K

Total 34.1K
Shibaprasad
Nov 14, 2011 at 5:28 PM
I'm assuming that you already have a Monitor; so excluding it from the suggested rig:-

Intel Core i5 2400 @ 9K (Kolkata price, check in Vedant)
Intel DH67BL-B3 @ 5.1K
Corsair Value 4 GB 1333 MHz DDR3 @ 1.2K
MSI Cyclone HD 6850 @ 9.8K
Logitec MK200 Keyboard & Mouse @ 0.7K
Corsair GS600 PSU @ 4K
NZXT Gamma Cabinet @ 2.3K
Intex 1000 VA UPS @ 2K

Total 34.1K

Why i5 2400 and Intel H67 mobo?
Plz suggest me shop where I can buy GS600(No luck with MD and Supreme)
Cilus
Cilus #5
Nov 14, 2011 at 6:48 PM
^^ I've already mentioned one shop name in my prev post; it is Vedant. Also check Arihant (near Sabir Hotel).

And for your requirement i5 2400 + H67 is enough. Also it enables us to accomodate a good Graphics card, main requirement for gaming, in the rig. If you can stretch your budget a little then get Sapphire HD 6870, available around 11K.
Shibaprasad
Nov 14, 2011 at 7:25 PM
^^ I've already mentioned one shop name in my prev post; it is Vedant. Also check Arihant (near Sabir Hotel).

And for your requirement i5 2400 + H67 is enough. Also it enables us to accomodate a good Graphics card, main requirement for gaming, in the rig. If you can stretch your budget a little then get Sapphire HD 6870, available around 11K.

If I change your config a little......add i3 2100+Asus H67 and a good graphic card? is it OK for next few years(5-6)
Cilus
Cilus #7
Nov 14, 2011 at 7:40 PM
Nopes. None can't be sure what will happen after 5/6 years, even if you get a 2700K, the highest end Sandybridge Processor. But 25 2400 is a better option if you want it for long run. The reason is i3 2100 is a dual core Processor with Hyper-Threading enabled. So it has 4 logical but only 2 Physical cores whereas i5 2400 is a true quad core CPU with4 Physical cores.
Now apps and games, both are getting more n more multi-threaded everyday. So a true quad core processor based on the same architecture is a better option for long run. i3 2100 is ok for now but within short period it will start to struggle to keep up with the multi-threaded apps and 2500 will be still kicking due to its four physical cores; infact its performance will increase.
Shibaprasad
Nov 14, 2011 at 8:05 PM
so quad core is better option. But 2-3k extra I can get i5 2500k(better than 2400)

can you plz change your config around i5 2500k
krishnandu.sarkar
Nov 14, 2011 at 8:20 PM
Hey buddy, I'm also going to buy a new rig and created a thread *www.thinkdigit.com/forum/pc-components-configurations/148238-budget-rig-25k.html

You can take a look for reference.

Quoting the point that Cilus told me about same query.

No point in getting 2500k if you are not overclocking and not going to use the HD3000 IGP. So getting 2500k + H67 is a bad decission.

Instead you can get 2500 + H67, but for 1000 bucks 200MHz bump is not judged.
Cilus
Cilus #10
Nov 14, 2011 at 8:35 PM
Let me clear a little here. A processor's speed is derived from the following equation: Base Clock Speed (BCLK) X CPU Multiplier.
Now all the K series Intel Sandybridge processors come with unlocked Multipler, makes overclock possible. But for this they need to be paired with Z68/P67 motherboards.
So (K series CPU+ Z68/P67 based mobo) combination will only let you overclock, no other combination won't.
Now if you want 2500K, you've to spend 11K for it. For a decent P67/Z68 motherboard, consider minimum of 8 to 9K. So the CPU + Mobo will cost you almost 20K and I don't think within rest of the 15K, a good Gfx card is possible.
kapilove77
Nov 14, 2011 at 8:41 PM
^ yep hes right!
Shibaprasad
Nov 14, 2011 at 9:05 PM
I can increase the budget about 5k
d6bmg
d6bmg #13
Nov 14, 2011 at 10:19 PM
Component | Make | Price Processor |Intel Core i5 2500k|11300
Motherboard |MSI Z68A GD55 B3|10100
RAM |Gskill Ripjaws X F3-12800CL9S-4GBXL|1650
Graphic Card |MSI Cyclone HD 6850 |9800
Mouse & Keyboard |Logitech MK-200|700
PSU |Corsair GS600|4000
Case |NZXT GAMMA|2000
UPS |Intex 1KVA|2000
| Total |41550

P.S. not a balanced rig. :-(
avinandan012
Nov 14, 2011 at 11:00 PM
^nzxt gamma is 2.3k in kolkata

for gaming IMO u should get a 2400 & a decent mobo & get a better gfx card or gaming peripherals
d6bmg
d6bmg #15
Nov 15, 2011 at 9:41 PM
^^ Yes, but he asked for a rig with 'k' processor in his last post.
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Tarun #17
Nov 16, 2011 at 8:46 AM
1. for a 1600 x 900 a 6770 or a GTS 450 is good secondly a CX500 is enough to run singles card uptill cards like 6950
2. when u are get a 2500k in the budget y are u going for lower specs
3. u cant overclock a 2400 even by 20 mhz
avinandan012
Nov 16, 2011 at 9:08 AM
^ in that case he needs to invest in a good Z68/P67 based mobo which is @9k+ range
Cilus
Cilus #19
Nov 16, 2011 at 3:48 PM
Shibaprasad, if you're insisting for i5 2500K, then I don't think any Z68 based motherboard can be accomodated in the budget; you've to satisfied with P67based motherboard.
Get i5 2500K + Intel DP67DE combo @ (11.2 + 6)K = 17.2K
Shibaprasad
Nov 16, 2011 at 8:12 PM
I'm assuming that you already have a Monitor; so excluding it from the suggested rig:-

Intel Core i5 2400 @ 9K (Kolkata price, check in Vedant)
Intel DH67BL-B3 @ 5.1K
Corsair Value 4 GB 1333 MHz DDR3 @ 1.2K
MSI Cyclone HD 6850 @ 9.8K
Logitec MK200 Keyboard & Mouse @ 0.7K
Corsair GS600 PSU @ 4K
NZXT Gamma Cabinet @ 2.3K
Intex 1000 VA UPS @ 2K

Total 34.1K
@Cilus
Corsair cx500 good?

suggest some alternative of GS600 PSU
d6bmg
d6bmg #21
Nov 16, 2011 at 8:30 PM
CX500 is not good, but CX500V2 is good. Although it will under power 6850. You need at least 600Watt PSU and GS600 is the cheapest.
Cilus
Cilus #22
Nov 16, 2011 at 8:39 PM
D6mg, for running a HD 6850, the recommended PSU is a good 450W PSU and CX500 V2 can handle it very effectively without any issues. I've suggested the 600W PSU for a futureproof solution so that if anything needs to be added future, power supply shouldn't be an issue.

The alternatives are:-
1. Corsair CX 500 V2 80+ @3K (Make sure it is the V2 model)
2. Tagan Stonerock TG-500 80+ bronze @ 3.1K
d6bmg
d6bmg #23
Nov 16, 2011 at 9:26 PM
extreme.outervision said 445Watt at peak. Assuming that OP have some extra devices to connect to the rig (occasionally), we may need ~480Watt. Considering the efficiency of CX500V2, I suggested gs600.

Pardon me if I'm wrong. I'm just explaining my point of thinking.
Shibaprasad
Nov 17, 2011 at 7:24 PM
No one has GS600 in Kolkata
My only options are Corsair Cx500 or Any Cooler Master PSU
Cilus
Cilus #25
Nov 17, 2011 at 8:24 PM
No one has GS600 in Kolkata
My only options are Corsair Cx500 or Any Cooler Master PSU

I've already mentioned the alternative PSUs to you. Check my previous post.

d6bmg, what baout efficiency of CX500 V2? Could you elaborate?
Shibaprasad
Nov 17, 2011 at 8:49 PM
price for CX 500 from Supreme is Rs 3950. Is it OK?

Is there any non v2 version?

I am going with i3 2100 and keep the price around 30k

core i3 2100
Asus P8H67-M LE
2X2GB Kingstone RAM
HD 6850
Corsair CX500
CM cabinet less than 2k

Above config OK for BF3
my old APC 500VA UPS can handle above config?
avinandan012
Nov 17, 2011 at 9:56 PM
get NZXT gamma ~ 2.3K

no your UPS will not be sufficient when gaming . get a 800 VA atleast
krishnandu.sarkar
Nov 17, 2011 at 10:08 PM
Look like we both fixed up on same components probably. Lets go together if you don't have any problem. We'd get more discounts ;)

Check PM :)
Cilus
Cilus #29
Nov 17, 2011 at 10:11 PM
price for CX 500 from Supreme is Rs 3950. Is it OK?

Is there any non v2 version?

I am going with i3 2100 and keep the price around 30k

core i3 2100
Asus P8H67-M LE
2X2GB Kingstone RAM
HD 6850
Corsair CX500
CM cabinet less than 2k

Above config OK for BF3
my old APC 500VA UPS can handle above config?

Check your PM; I've answered it.