4K TV 40-50k · DIGIT-ARC

1. Budget?
40-50k, for parents

2. Display type and size?
43" or 50", heard VA has better contrast than IPS but suffers from viewing angles, how bad is it?

3. What will the TV/monitor be used for primarily?
Set top box, some movies via DVD/USB, gaming by me (pretty rare)

4. Types and number of ports required?
3 HDMI

5. Preferred choice of brand?
Samsung & LG, not sure others have service centers in Andaman. Faced a lot of problems with old Sony TV after a year, so parents want something which can be repaired locally

6. Any TV/monitor in consideration?
Samsung 43NU7470, hopefully it is 50k or lower in local stores there. Other models, Samsung NU7100 & LG 43UK6360PTE

7. Any other info that you want to share.
Will be used by my parents in Andaman, shit internet for now, but things will change next year hopefully. Would like to avoid some TV which got a lot of important stuff in latest software update. Amazon & Flipkart doesn't deliver there. Will connect it to a Sony 5.1 speaker system, I think almost all TVs have HDMI ARC these days.

*www.amazon.in/dp/B07DWP6GWB/?coliid=IKHFJQNH82BR7&colid=3RO3PH4L26MYV&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
Find this in local stores.
2018 model gets the magic remote while 2019 model does not come bundled with magic remote, so opted for this.

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anupam_pb said:
heard VA has better contrast than IPS but suffers from viewing angles, how bad is it?

Cheaper VA panels have it poor,any viewing angle negative comments you see on 2019 lowest end VU tv models is because of this exactly as earlier they used to put ips panels even in their lowest end TVs.

Between samsung & LG,go with whichever provides more extended warranty as nowadays 2 years warranty is recommended.

whitestar_999 said:
Cheaper VA panels have it poor,any viewing angle negative comments you see on 2019 lowest end VU tv models is because of this exactly as earlier they used to put ips panels even in their lowest end TVs.

Between samsung & LG,go with whichever provides more extended warranty as nowadays 2 years warranty is recommended.

In a way I'm not considering cheap models. Apparently Samsung ones have VA (based on some users), not sure if its that bad. Anyways will try to see if its available for demo.

bssunilreddy said:
*www.amazon.in/dp/B07DWP6GWB/?coliid=IKHFJQNH82BR7&colid=3RO3PH4L26MYV&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
Find this in local stores.
2018 model gets the magic remote while 2019 model does not come bundled with magic remote, so opted for this.

Apparently 43UM7290PTF is the one w/o magic remote but was cheaper in amazon as well. Not sure if magic remote is something my parents will use even when the internet improves.

The model you listed is definitely on my radar. Also, LG seems to be offering 3 year warranty due to festive season, that is definitely a plus point for LG.

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anupam_pb said:
In a way I'm not considering cheap models. Apparently Samsung ones have VA (based on some users), not sure if its that bad. Anyways will try to see if its available for demo.

Samsung VA panels are in a different class altogether compared to cheap VA panels used by VU in their low end models. Even VU itself use good quality VA panels in their mid/high range models.

whitestar_999 said:
Samsung VA panels are in a different class altogether compared to cheap VA panels used by VU in their low end models. Even VU itself use good quality VA panels in their mid/high range models.

What about LG 4k panels?
What about newly released OnePlus OLED Panels?
Any suggestions are welcome...

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bssunilreddy said:
What about LG 4k panels?
What about newly released OnePlus OLED Panels?
Any suggestions are welcome...

LG for OLED(C series recent models but quite costly)
Samsung for QLED(again models costing ~60-70k+)
I wouldn't suggest one plus,at least not without seeing it in person displaying some hd channel & 4k content.

Oneplus is a QLED panel and I am sure they have taken the display from Samsung

OLED TV are marvelous, but I don't recommend them for Gaming & lots of Static content and also due to their Organic nature they will degrade with Time.
So, better stick with QLED or VA panels from Sony or even IPS.

Leaning towards LG UM7300 Even rtings has a good review for it. Its priced the same as Samsung RU7100 here, 50k vs 51k for LG. LG is offering full 3 year warranty vs 1 year of Samsung (3 year for panel though).

Not sure how bad 120Hz PWM would be. I didn't feel it to be bad when I checked.

whitestar_999 said:
LG for OLED(C series recent models but quite costly)
Samsung for QLED(again models costing ~60-70k+)
I wouldn't suggest one plus,at least not without seeing it in person displaying some hd channel & 4k content.

How is Motorola 4K TV advertised in flipkart.
They are saying in youtube reviews that its an LG Panel.
Is it any good?
This here it is:Motorola 109cm (43 inch) Ultra HD (4K) LED Smart Android TV with Wireless Gamepad Online at best Prices In India

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TV may be good but no idea about its after sales support so don't pick it as your first option.

whitestar_999 said:
TV may be good but no idea about its after sales support so don't pick it as your first option.

What's the best option for 4k TV's
LG or samsung?

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bssunilreddy said:
What's the best option for 4k TV's
LG or samsung?

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Depends on your budget.

whitestar_999 said:
Depends on your budget.

If my budget is 40k then LG 4k with smart remote which only comes with 2018 models only. 2019 models does not come with smart remote.
Is 2018 model good or should I go with Motorola 4K since it comes with LG panels?
Please suggest.
Thanks.

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I would personally get myself a very good display and choose Chromecast or FireStick. Going for the smart TVs is good, but you can invest that in a good panel.

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Check demo of lg & panasonic in showrooms in this price range.Or you can go for VU premium android tv with half the budget & get extended warranty so even if tv lasts 2 years,your money will get its worth.

bssunilreddy said:
How is Motorola 4K TV advertised in flipkart.
They are saying in youtube reviews that its an LG Panel.
Is it any good?
This here it is:Motorola 109cm (43 inch) Ultra HD (4K) LED Smart Android TV with Wireless Gamepad Online at best Prices In India

Quoting whitestar_999 for suggestions

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bssunilreddy said:
Quoting whitestar_999 for suggestions

See my above reply,not many reviews for motorola tv even on hifivision forums so I suggest to check lg & samsung models available in the price range at nearest showrooms.

whitestar_999 said:
See my above reply,not many reviews for motorola tv even on hifivision forums so I suggest to check lg & samsung models available in the price range at nearest showrooms.

I want to buy either from Flipkart or Amazon. That's why asking for suggestion.

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bssunilreddy said:
I want to buy either from Flipkart or Amazon. That's why asking for suggestion.

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Flipkart uses Jeeves for its own after sales service option given at time of buying & it has some bad reviews.Your best bet is direct warranty from manufacturer which only VU provides among cheaper/budget brands.I am not sure about even major brands like lg & samsung when it comes to online purchase & extended warranty compared to their offline store purchases.Also TV is not like graphics card or processor whose review you can read online & based on that only decide to buy.Just check the models in nearest showrooms & if you find something good then see if it is available online with better price/warranty offer(give preference to extended warranty even if it means buying offline at a slightly higher price).

whitestar_999 said:
Flipkart uses Jeeves for its own after sales service option given at time of buying & it has some bad reviews.Your best bet is direct warranty from manufacturer which only VU provides among cheaper/budget brands.I am not sure about even major brands like lg & samsung when it comes to online purchase & extended warranty compared to their offline store purchases.Also TV is not like graphics card or processor whose review you can read online & based on that only decide to buy.Just check the models in nearest showrooms & if you find something good then see if it is available online with better price/warranty offer(give preference to extended warranty even if it means buying offline at a slightly higher price).

Okay will do. Thanks for the suggestion. Will take note of the model numbers and check them in the nearest showrooms and then order.
If they are not available there I will order them from either Flipkart or Amazon then. Okay.

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bssunilreddy said:
If my budget is 40k then LG 4k with smart remote which only comes with 2018 models only. 2019 models does not come with smart remote.
Is 2018 model good or should I go with Motorola 4K since it comes with LG panels?
Please suggest.
Thanks.

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Check rtings.com

Apparently LG UK63 has RGBW subpixel arrangement, so not real 4K.

Do you really need that smart remote of LG? Samsung has VA panel, so better contrast vs IPS of LG. You can always go for a cheap 4K TV at 25k.

anupam_pb said:
Check rtings.com

Apparently LG UK63 has RGBW subpixel arrangement, so not real 4K.

Do you really need that smart remote of LG? Samsung has VA panel, so better contrast vs IPS of LG. You can always go for a cheap 4K TV at 25k.

What about Motorola 4K panel which is an LG panel where they are saying in YouTube Reviews.
And what cheaper 4K TVs
Don't recommend Yu or any other things like TCL please.
Recommend anything like LG, Samsung
I think samsung comes with one UI right!

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Nowadays almost all IPS panels are made by LG only so any device using ips panel will most likely have a lg panel.That is not some great thing as lg only sells lower quality ips panels to other manufacturers(with very few exceptions & those manufacturers' models will certainly cost much more than cheap models of motorola) while keeping the best panels for its own devices.

Motorola won't be much better than brands like VU in this price range(in fact it may even be equal or a bit worst than VU premium android/pixel light series).Don't confuse motorola with lenovo(you already know what happened to motorola mobile brand under lenovo). If you don't want to consider VU then just go with LG or Samsung(whichever offers more extended warranty & not just on panels).

whitestar_999 said:
Nowadays almost all IPS panels are made by LG only so any device using ips panel will most likely have a lg panel.That is not some great thing as lg only sells lower quality ips panels to other manufacturers(with very few exceptions & those manufacturers' models will certainly cost much more than cheap models of motorola) while keeping the best panels for its own devices.

Motorola won't be much better than brands like VU in this price range(in fact it may even be equal or a bit worst than VU premium android/pixel light series).Don't confuse motorola with lenovo(you already know what happened to motorola mobile brand under lenovo). If you don't want to consider VU then just go with LG or Samsung(whichever offers more extended warranty & not just on panels).

Okay
I will go with either LG or Samsung which ever is cheaper and provides good smart capabilities.
Thanks again.
PS: I don't know about this LG thingy about it selling panels to others.

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bssunilreddy said:
PS: I don't know about this LG thingy about it selling panels to others.

It is just like samsung being the largest manufacturer of memory chips used in ram/ssd/mobiles.You will find samsung chips in many products.Of course the best chips are reserved for samsung's own devices.

whitestar_999 said:
It is just like samsung being the largest manufacturer of memory chips used in ram/ssd/mobiles.You will find samsung chips in many products.Of course the best chips are reserved for samsung's own devices.

Rightly said. About Huawei debacle both Samsung & Apple was about to loose billions if Huawei gets banned. So they lobbied for Huawei.

But US Administration is a bit on the higher side.
Already choosen LG 43 inches 4K & LG 40 inches HD TVs from Amazon.

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bssunilreddy said:
What about Motorola 4K panel which is an LG panel where they are saying in YouTube Reviews.
And what cheaper 4K TVs
Don't recommend Yu or any other things like TCL please.
Recommend anything like LG, Samsung
I think samsung comes with one UI right!

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Obviously cheap 4K ones are Xiaomi, Vu, TCL, etc.

I saw LG UM7290 & Samsung NU6100 for 37k online. Both are decent choices. UM72xx might not have RGBW like UK63 series. I observed UM7300 to be better than UK63xx in the showroom, but didn't try my video on UK63 as the difference between them was just 3k here, so UM73 is obvious choice for LG, in my case. The 3 year warranty is cherry on the top as my previous TV (Sony) had a lot of issues in 2nd year which needed mobo replacement worth 5k.

Samsung TVs have Tizen OS & LG has Web OS. Sony has android TV whereas some cheap brand actually have android based OS or android TV. I can't compare smart features here in the showroom as the internet is shit. For my parents, both have enough functionality, so OS is not a deal-breaker for me.

bssunilreddy said:
Rightly said. About Huawei debacle both Samsung & Apple was about to loose billions if Huawei gets banned. So they lobbied for Huawei.

But US Administration is a bit on the higher side.
Already choosen LG 43 inches 4K & LG 40 inches HD TVs from Amazon.

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If amazon is delivering to your location, get LG UM7290 & Samsung NU6100 for 37k. Don't even consider 1080p TVs. I don't think the voice assistant supported magic remote of LG is that much worth it, definitely nice to have.

Checked Panasonic GX750 locally, costs 56k for 49" here. The panel looks good, bit better than LG UM7300 for brightness & contrast. It even has HDR10+ & Dolby vision apparently but inbuilt web store isn't good, should be solved with Fire TV 4K.

TH-49GX750D 4K TV - Panasonic India

This forum has some discussions on it.
Panasonic 2019 GX750 BOOKED

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Hifivision forum is the place to check for some in-depth tv/audio hardware recommendations/reviews.

whitestar_999 said:
Hifivision forum is the place to check for some in-depth tv/audio hardware recommendations/reviews.

Good to know

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anupam_pb said:
Good to know

Check out this thread if you want to give yourself a headache regarding setting up hdr correctly :grin:

VU Premium Android 4k TVs aren't really HDR! Please go through this thread before buying one.

P.S. The above thread title is not exactly true,see the thread for more info regarding this.

Placed order for Panasonic GX750 49". 56k was the wrong price quote earlier & it cost me 63k. Bad value for my parents as they won't utilize it to its potential but my father wanted a big TV, so 49" it is. Otherwise LG UM7300 43" would have been my choice at 51k. Options at Andaman are slim, cheapest branded 4K TV here was Panasonic GX500 for 45k or something but its panel didn't look great compared to UM7300.

I will get it tomorrow, will post a small review.