A good configuration for a 15-20k rig...?

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whitestar_999 said:

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1. What is the purpose of the computer? What all applications and games are you going to run?
Ans:as i said above for using design softwares like PRO-E,CATIA,ANSYS,SOLID WORKS....other usual multimedia apps....games,i would love to run them all but i know its too much....so basically i would like to run games like....ac2,ac3,fifa13,crysis,cod,black ops,ac revelations,mass effect 2,3....as everyone knows with some setttings toned down..

2. What is your overall budget? If you can extend a bit for a more balanced configuration, then mention this too.
Ans:21k

3. Planning to overclock?
Ans:No

4. Which Operating System are you planning to use?
Ans:win7 or 8

5. How much hard drive space is needed?
Ans:1tb

6. Do you want to buy a monitor? If yes, please mention which screen size and resolution do you want. If you already have a monitor and want to reuse it, again mention the size and resolution of monitor you have.
Ans:i have one...max res 1366*768...18.5inch

7. Which components you DON'T want to buy or which components you already have and plan on reusing?
Ans:monitor,keyboard,mouse and ups...

8. When are you planning to buy the system?
Ans:in about 2weeks

9. Have you ever built a desktop before or will this be done by an assembler?
Ans:no & will be done by an assembler

10. Where do you live? Are you buying locally? Are you open to buying stuff from online shops if you don't get locally?
Ans:Hassan,Karnataka.....will be trying to buy locally....if the budget at local shop increases,then will think of buying some comp. online....

11. Anything else which you would like to say?
Ans:nothing....just tight on budget........and hoping will get a good price to performance ratio from config....

go for trinity based pc....

a10 8-8.5K
ram 4 gb crosair value 1.5k
msi fm2 A55M E33mobo @ 3.7k
hdd toshiba 1tb @ 4.3k
large generic cabinet of local company @ 1k
Antec bp300 smps@ 1.8k

Total = in your budget

Here is my suggestion:-

Intel Pentium G645 @ 3.1K
Gigabyte GA-B75M-D3H @ 4K
Corsair Value Series 1333 MHz CL9 DDR3 4GB X 1 @ 1.3K
Toshiba 7200 RPM 1 TB SATA HDD @ 4.1K
MSI HD 7770 1GB GDDR5 @ 7.8K

Total: 20.3K. For gaming purpose, this will serve you better and @ 768P resolution, HD 7770 can play most of the games with high settings.

draco21 said:

go for trinity based pc....

a10 8-8.5K
ram 4 gb crosair value 1.5k
msi fm2 A55M E33mobo @ 3.7k
hdd toshiba 1tb @ 4.3k
large generic cabinet of local company @ 1k
Antec bp300 smps@ 1.8k

Total = in your budget

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you mean this right...
then i belive i dont require a graphics card right...?and does it support crossfire(in case i buy a graphic card in future)
any intel+gfx card combo that gives same performance as 5800k...?

^^the rig @cilus suggested is better for gaming.in my opinion buy A10 only if you don't plan on buying a graphics card.

Yes exactly....

i say trinity from my side... why??

1. better processor for the softwares you use
2. gpu good enough for gaminng at that resolution

but if you decide on g645 or sth like that then you will be sacrificing processing power which is important for those softwares And all this just for a bit better gaming

Cilus said:

Here is my suggestion:-

Intel Pentium G645 @ 3.1K
Gigabyte GA-B75M-D3H @ 4K
Corsair Value Series 1333 MHz CL9 DDR3 4GB X 1 @ 1.3K
Toshiba 7200 RPM 1 TB SATA HDD @ 4.1K
MSI HD 7770 1GB GDDR5 @ 7.8K

Total: 20.3K. For gaming purpose, this will serve you better and @ 768P resolution, HD 7770 can play most of the games with high settings.

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PSU...?
g645~c2d or better ?
ram you mean this...?
Corsair DDR3 4 GB (1 x 4 GB) PC RAM (CMV4GX3M1A1333C9) - Corsair: Flipkart.com

Cilus said:

Here is my suggestion:-

Intel Pentium G645 @ 3.1K
Gigabyte GA-B75M-D3H @ 4K
Corsair Value Series 1333 MHz CL9 DDR3 4GB X 1 @ 1.3K
Toshiba 7200 RPM 1 TB SATA HDD @ 4.1K
MSI HD 7770 1GB GDDR5 @ 7.8K

Total: 20.3K. For gaming purpose, this will serve you better and @ 768P resolution, HD 7770 can play most of the games with high settings.

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Excellent rig, specially fitting that 7770 under 20k.

intel pentium G645 is a dual core processor based on same architecture as core i 2xxx processors.it is faster than any core2duo & amd dual core athlon/phenom.

Cilus said:

Here is my suggestion:-

Intel Pentium G645 @ 3.1K
Gigabyte GA-B75M-D3H @ 4K
Corsair Value Series 1333 MHz CL9 DDR3 4GB X 1 @ 1.3K
Toshiba 7200 RPM 1 TB SATA HDD @ 4.1K
MSI HD 7770 1GB GDDR5 @ 7.8K

Total: 20.3K. For gaming purpose, this will serve you better and @ 768P resolution, HD 7770 can play most of the games with high settings.

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you missed big thing.corsair cx 430w psu - 2.5 k

I suggest get h61 d2h mobo at 3k as you will save 1k.b75 has usb 3 feature while d2h has usb 2 that's it.

thanks for the reply guys...
when it comes to processing power....which is better ....? 5800k or g645...?
as i said i want to run CATIA ,PRO-E in near future...so i want to be sure....

i am leaning towards 5800k as it is quad core....

so i have decided on two things
ram-4gb corsair value @1.3k
hdd-tosihba @7200rpm @4.1k

still confused...
cpu and psu and respective mobo...?

and does 5800k support crossfire...?

what about g645+hd 6670 1gb gddr5....? it will suite my budget along with the psu...what do you think guys....?

I suggest g645+ hd 7750.hd 7750 consumes low power than hd 6670 so it can work with your psu.

For softwares a10 is much more capable (almost equivalent to i3)

so get it eyes closed

for mobo and psu, i have already suggested...

For softwares a10 is much more capable (almost equivalent to i3)

so get it eyes closed

for mobo and psu, i have already suggested...

get this:

Intel i3 3220 - rs 7000
Gigabyte h61 d2h or s2p - rs 3000
Wd or tosiba 1tb hd - rs 4100
Sapphire hd 6670 1gb ddr5 - rs 5400
Corsair\g skill\transend 4gb ddr3 - rs 1200

Total - rs 20,700

Believe me this is best for your needs

with hd 6670 ddr5 you will able to play games at med-high settings(with AA and vsync to off)but mostly on high settings at 720res

It BEATS A10 5800k in all aspects

i3 has hyper threating means it will act like quad core and speed up multitasking and also hd 6670 is faster than apu hd 7660d

hd 6670 ddr5 > hd 7660d

Add to that a cabby (1k) and smps (2k).....

i think it will go off budget but if op can manage then this is better....

Add to that a cabby (1k) and smps (2k).....

i think it will go off budget but if op can manage then this is better....

this is best:

amd fx 4100 at 6k
ASUS M5A78L-M LX V2 Motherboard at 2.7k
4 gb ram 1333 ddr3 at 1400
Sapphire hd 6670 1gb ddr5 - rs 5400
wd 500 gb hdd at 3400
corsair 430watt at 2500

total rs 21400 or less ,bang for buck....this is a very known configuration outside india

Fx 4100 sucks in gaming.i3 will destroy easily.

Fx 4100??

a10 is much better in terms of cpu ( phenom II is better too..)
also igp is better than 6670

Fx 4100?

a10 is much better in terms of cpu ( phenom II is better too..)
also igp is better than 6670

^ you mean a10 igpu is better than 6670?

yes i think...
is it wrong??

yes i think...
is it wrong??

A10 GPU is not better than 6670.

Yes it is close to hd 5570 see here - Tom's Hardware US

Hmm i guess i was misinformed.....

Hmm i guess i was misinformed.....

So integrated graphics of a10 5800k is equivalent to 5670 or 5570 ddr5 cards...?

Also will g645 bottle neck 7770?

5670 ddr5=6670 ddr5>5570 ddr3(there is no 5570 ddr5 as far as i know) & you will not face any bottleneck issues with G645 unless you are spending ~50000 on graphics card/cards.

The performance of A10 IGP, namely HD 7660D, varies widely with the speed and performance of system Ram in use as it shares the system Ram for Graphics usage. Although the processing power of 7660D is same or little higher than HD 6670, even the cheaper version of 6670 comes with a dedicated high speed DDR3 memory, resulting better performance than 7660D with 1600 MHz system Ram. Unless you are using a 1866 MHz or 2133 MHz DDR3 memory with the A10, HD 6670 DDR3 performs better than 7660D. So for a dedicated Gaming system, Trinity setup is not advised and better to go with a Standard CPU + Good Graphics card combination.

Also, G645 is capable enough to handle GPU up to GTX 650 TI without any bottleneck and it will easily handle HD 7770. As your need is gaming, go with G645 + HD 7770 combination.

G645 will not bottleneck at all.

Cilus said:

The performance of A10 IGP, namely HD 7660D, varies widely with the speed and performance of system Ram in use as it shares the system Ram for Graphics usage. Although the processing power of 7660D is same or little higher than HD 6670, even the cheaper version of 6670 comes with a dedicated high speed DDR3 memory, resulting better performance than 7660D with 1600 MHz system Ram. Unless you are using a 1866 MHz or 2133 MHz DDR3 memory with the A10, HD 6670 DDR3 performs better than 7660D. So for a dedicated Gaming system, Trinity setup is not advised and better to go with a Standard CPU + Good Graphics card combination.

Also, G645 is capable enough to handle GPU up to GTX 650 TI without any bottleneck and it will easily handle HD 7770. As your need is gaming, go with G645 + HD 7770 combination.

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Yes...but it is out of budget if I consider 7770 and I am not sure if I can get 7770 at 7.8k at my place ...
So please suggest me other gfx card that can perform well with g645...?

Get HD 7750 or HD 6770. But tell me one thing, are you not open to Online purchase? If yes, then try Smcinternational.in.

Then saphhire hd 7750 1gb at rs 6700-7000.

Cilus said:

Get HD 7750 or HD 6770. But tell me one thing, are you not open to Online purchase? If yes, then try Smcinternational.in.

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Would have but no cod and free shipping to my place ...from smcinternational...
I am only able to buy from Flipkart,hs18 or snapdeal....not others...but at Flipkart gfx cards are extremely overpriced...
I will try to get 7750....
Will get back to you guys....after i check the prices locally ...

I would still say to get a10 as it has much better cpu.....

If solidworks,Ansys and some CAD softwares are priority then take a10-5800k.
Its IGP can give a decent level of gaming experience at 1366*768,also you would have the option to add a GPU later.If gaming is priority then go with hd7770+g645.

thanks for the input guys...
after much thought i have decided to go for a10....as many of you said i would be loosing some processing power if i go for g645....and i can add gfx card later if needed...
so final config.

processor-a10 5800k
mobo-msi fm2 a55m
ram-corsair 4gb*1
hdd-1tb toshiba

and i am thinking of buying a i-ball case....will the inbuilt power supply be enough...?

well it should survive but you may want bp300 from antec.

also get a better 8 gb ram....

Small_town_boy said:

thanks for the input guys...
after much thought i have decided to go for a10....as many of you said i would be loosing some processing power if i go for g645....and i can add gfx card later if needed...
so final config.

processor-a10 5800k
mobo-msi fm2 a55m
ram-corsair 4gb*1
hdd-1tb toshiba

and i am thinking of buying a i-ball case....will the inbuilt power supply be enough...?

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good choice.a10 is definitely better than g645 in processing power,and is roughly equal to 3rd-gen i3.you can CF it with hd 6670 later,which i think would be somewhat cheap now.

edit:you should also get 1600-1833 mhz 8gb ram, and a better smps in case you want to CF with 6670

8 gb...that's a bit too much on my budget....what about the costs of 8gb 1600mhz or 1333mhz....3k...?
a good psu and 8gb ram....got to compromise on one...
by the way max ram support of mobo i have mentioned is 16gb...?

well i'm saying to get a god psu only if you're planning to CF.about the ram i have no idea.BTW,where are you going to buy your components from?

edit:yup its around 400 Rs more than 1333 Mhz.
also if you buy locally,you could get a discount,allowing you to fit 8Gb ram and Good Psu in your budget

Tried compromising on hdd?? you can get a 500 gb and save some cash

add that cash and a bit more from your side to get a 1600mhz 8 gb stick...

i had included bp300 in my config check it just change the ram and hdd...

both hdd & psu are more essential in long term compared to ram for your usage scenario.just get 4gb ram for now & buy another 4gb in future if you feel the need for it not before.

Actually it would do on any other processor

on a processor like a10 the igp will share the system's ram and hence ram available for system will significantly decrease. So a 8gb stick is strictly recommended. It will also enable greater performance of igp as people have already stated...

Actually it would do on any other processor

on a processor like a10 the igp will share the system's ram and hence ram available for system will significantly decrease. So a 8gb stick is strictly recommended. It will also enable greater performance of igp as people have already stated...

^^any hard facts/figures in support of your argument.even though i am not a gamer i know this much that the graphics ram used by a graphics card/subsystem is dependent on graphics processor capability.this is the reason why performance wise a 2gb GT630 is same as 1gb version.to effectively use more than 1gb graphics ram a powerful graphics card like radeon 7850 or higher is required.now deducting full 1gb ram usage for games which is still an exceptional situation as usual ram usage will be lower that still leaves 3gb ram which is adequate for normal usages on 64bit win 7.

As I will be using win7 32bit for time being I think 4gigs of ram is enough...
And hdd 1tb is a must for me...(I am a us TV series fan...lol)
Will try to get a good psu...and will add 4gig ram later...
Once again thanks for helping out guys ...

Welll ok

at least get a 1600 mhz one (gskill ripjaws/crosair vengence) for better performance...

Welll ok

at least get a 1600 mhz one (gskill ripjaws/crosair vengence) for better performance...

draco21 said:

Welll ok

at least get a 1600 mhz one (gskill ripjaws/crosair vengence) for better performance...

Welll ok

at least get a 1600 mhz one (gskill ripjaws/crosair vengence) for better performance...

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Sure mate...

^^this is the thing to keep in mind most.performance wise 1600 ram is much better than 1333 ram for any AMD A series processor.

i checked the prices locally...WTF!
extremely overpriced....so i am thinking of getting some componets online..

processor+mobo 13.1k
but the shop where i asked dont have msi mobo which i thought of buying...he told he will get an asus mobo...!
but i checked asus website they dont have any fm2 motherboards ....so i am a bit confused here....i think he meant asrock not asus...
so can i take asus/asrock instead of msi...?

also i wil get ram and hdd from flipkart...
ram..
1. G.Skill RipjawsX DDR3 4 GB (1 x 4 GB) PC RAM (F3-12800CL9S-4GBXL) - G.Skill: Flipkart.com
or
2.Corsair Vengeance DDR3 4 GB (1 x 4 GB) PC RAM (CMZ4GX3M1A1600C9) - Corsair: Flipkart.com

hdd
1.Seagate Barracuda 1 TB Desktop Internal Hard Drive (ST31000524AS) - Seagate: Flipkart.com
or
2.Toshiba 1 TB Desktop Internal Hard Drive (DT01ACA100) - Toshiba: Flipkart.com

plese suggest me good ram and hdd from above options..

asus mobo....found it...i think this...will check and get back ...
*www.asus.com/Motherboard/A55MAUSB3/#specifications

Asus does have plenty of FM2 Motherboards, check again. Get this one: F2A55-M-LE