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Æsoteric Positron
Æsoteric Positron Original post #1
Aug 2, 2020 at 11:09 AM
So, I happened to have a cheap 4 gb ddr4 memory stick of adata which would be not more than 2400mhz and which even gave me some BSoD (but rarely) and even refusing to be detected (again rarely)

Now I recently purchased -: *www.amazon.in/dp/B07B4FRMGV/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_h3KjFb2800PQJ.

The motherboard I have is -: GA-H110M-H (rev. 1.0) | Motherboard - GIGABYTE Global

So , here's my question(s)-:

Should I configure my ram in 8+4 gb or would I be better off with 8gb with-:
1. My cheap ram not constraining the speed of my new one.
2. Wasting 4gb of memory.
3. Not running the modules in dual channel.
4. Avoiding potential BSoD once in a year.

So, I again ask ur help fellow geeks :)

Ps. I am also confused about my motherboard ram speed support and whether it would even be able to handle 3000mghz
Desmond
Desmond #2
Aug 3, 2020 at 2:55 AM
When buying RAM, it's best to have both sticks of the same speed because the slowest among them will constrain the speed of the others. Run them in dual channel if possible always for best performance.
W
Aug 3, 2020 at 8:30 PM
Your mobo supports upto 2400MHz ram anyway:
*www.gigabyte.com/in/Motherboard/GA-H110M-A-rev-10/sp#sp

It is usually pointless to buy high speed ram for intel mobos unless you have Z series mobo & are doing some good overclocking. ram speed matters much more for amd ryzen processors.
Æsoteric Positron
Aug 4, 2020 at 11:56 AM
When buying RAM, it's best to have both sticks of the same speed because the slowest among them will constrain the speed of the others. Run them in dual channel if possible always for best performance.
But I already had one so, I buyed the second one of good quality for future-proofing.
Æsoteric Positron
Aug 4, 2020 at 11:59 AM
Your mobo supports upto 2400MHz ram anyway:
*www.gigabyte.com/in/Motherboard/GA-H110M-A-rev-10/sp#sp

It is usually pointless to buy high speed ram for intel mobos unless you have Z series mobo & are doing some good overclocking. ram speed matters much more for amd ryzen processors.
I did that cause there wasn't much difference b/w 'em -:
*www.amazon.in/dp/B071L1VBDN/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_K.pkFbHVJDGKG
Æsoteric Positron
Aug 4, 2020 at 12:15 PM
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Also what does having 1200MHz max bandwidth even mean? I think min. clockspeed supported in dd4 is 2133?
Æsoteric Positron
Aug 4, 2020 at 12:28 PM
Just would the RAM be compatible in my mobo without giving out any errors? I know it will be underclocked somewhat now(cause of mobo and cpu)............
Æsoteric Positron
Aug 4, 2020 at 1:04 PM
Also also I cannot escape underclocking my ram as Intel® Core™ i3-6100 Processor (3M Cache, 3.70 GHz) Product Specifications supports only 2133 mHz of ram which are currently nowhere to be found on amazon, or most of the e-commerce sites for that matter.
Desmond
Desmond #9
Aug 4, 2020 at 1:14 PM
But I already had one so, I buyed the second one of good quality for future-proofing.
If they are of different speeds, it's better to replace your old ones.

Just would the RAM be compatible in my mobo without giving out any errors? I know it will be underclocked somewhat now(cause of mobo and cpu)............
You will have to check your motherboard manual for that. It will have a list of compatible RAM sticks, in some cases even specific model numbers.
Also also I cannot escape underclocking my ram as Intel® Core™ i3-6100 Processor (3M Cache, 3.70 GHz) Product Specifications supports only 2133 mHz of ram which are currently nowhere to be found on amazon, or most of the e-commerce sites for that matter.
In that case I think it would be best to start thinking about upgrading your motherboard.
Æsoteric Positron
Aug 4, 2020 at 1:22 PM
If they are of different speeds, it's better to replace your old ones.


You will have to check your motherboard manual for that. It will have a list of compatible RAM sticks, in some cases even specific model numbers.

In that case I think it would be best to start thinking about upgrading your motherboard.
The motherboard + cpu upgrade would surely happen in a few years, when budget allows it. Right now I am more worried about motherboard being compatible with my RAM and not giving any potential errors. I never got the manual for 3+ year old mobo (cause it was not built by me), so I think we will just have to gussimate.

So, is the Corsair RAM to be attached in tandem with 4gb adata one OR do I discard the adata one?
W
Aug 4, 2020 at 2:33 PM
Also what does having 1200MHz max bandwidth even mean? I think min. clockspeed supported in dd4 is 2133?
DDR means double data rate so manufacturer stated ram frequency/commonly used ram frequency is double of actual ram frequency which these software report so 1200 means 2400MHz ram & 2133MHz means actual ram frequency of ~1067MHz.

The motherboard + cpu upgrade would surely happen in a few years, when budget allows it. Right now I am more worried about motherboard being compatible with my RAM and not giving any potential errors. I never got the manual for 3+ year old mobo (cause it was not built by me), so I think we will just have to gussimate.

So, is the Corsair RAM to be attached in tandem with 4gb adata one OR do I discard the adata one?
You will only know about ram incompatibility(if any) after you try running system with these 2 different ram.
Æsoteric Positron
Aug 4, 2020 at 10:59 PM
DDR means double data rate so manufacturer stated ram frequency/commonly used ram frequency is double of actual ram frequency which these software report so 1200 means 2400MHz ram & 2133MHz means actual ram frequency of ~1067MHz.
Ohk, thanks for the explanation.
Æsoteric Positron
Aug 4, 2020 at 11:12 PM
Btw -:

Is your system running slow?
Is your computer not functioning properly?
Is your work suffering bcoz of slowdowns?

Then buy a brand new 3 yr old RAM stick with DDR4 specs and absolutely fast 2400mHz speed, which was never achieved before.
With lifetime warrenty*, (*unless the RAM fails to work ofc)
Æsoteric Positron
Aug 4, 2020 at 11:17 PM
Which is to say I discarded the RAM bcoz it failed to be even detected first time and 2end time it caused the computer to fail to even boot. The RAM had problems from the beginning ..........
So the lesson of the day is -: Kids build ur own PCs , cause if you don't u are gonna be stuck with crappy hardware with no future proofing.
W
Aug 5, 2020 at 12:11 AM
That ram is decent, which seller you bought it from as any good seller should not be selling 3 years old stock of this model.
W
Aug 5, 2020 at 2:34 PM
ad4u2400j4g17-b => This model,but it do not have puffed black memory chips as indicated in the listings online, but it instead have a flat black one.
That code is for adata 2400MHz ram while black heat spreader one is corsair lpx series, that is why I asked which seller you bought from because either you ordered wrong or seller/someone else scammed you.
Æsoteric Positron
Aug 6, 2020 at 6:12 PM
Which seller you bought from because either you ordered wrong or seller/someone else scammed you.
He was a offline seller who scammed/fooled me much, he attached gt710 to my machine even though it's not much better than i36100's built in graphics. No cable management was done and he put his watermarks on every component. But considering all this again he would be my only choice in this area cause others are even more scammy than him even ordering products from Amazon and selling then at retail price(nearly 2x), yeah I know you won't believe :) .
Æsoteric Positron
Aug 6, 2020 at 9:54 PM
I stopped trusting brick-and-mortar PC assemblers long ago. Best to buy the components and assemble yourself.
Yeah , can't get a better decision than that ,but I heard assemblers in cities like delhi and banguluru are not as scammy though...............
W
Aug 7, 2020 at 12:28 AM
Yeah , can't get a better decision than that ,but I heard assemblers in cities like delhi and banguluru are not as scammy though...............
Depends as there they try to sell you products which may not be as good as ones selected by you but still they push those products because they get higher commission on selling those products(e.g.certain coolermaster psu models, some selected mobos etc).
Æsoteric Positron
Aug 7, 2020 at 1:07 PM
Depends as there they try to sell you products which may not be as good as ones selected by you but still they push those products because they get higher commission on selling those products(e.g.certain coolermaster psu models, some selected mobos etc).
Oh......