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Accessing Internet at 640 Gb/s - WOW !!

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naveen_reloaded Original post #1
Jul 13, 2008 at 9:21 PM
University of Sydney physicists have developed an optical chip that could potentially improve ‘Internet speeds to up to 100 times faster than current Australia’s networks.’ According to the Sydney Morning Herald, these chalcogenide glass photonic chips will be very cheap to produce as they’re based on plain glass. As said the lead researcher, ‘we are talking about networks that are potentially up to 100 times faster without costing the consumer any more.’ He adds that these chips could be scaled to operate at data rates approaching 640 Gb/s — the equivalent to transmitting approximately 17 complete DVDs per second! These chips could be commercially available in 5 years with the possible first network deployments in Japan. But read more…

*www.blogsforcompanies.com/TTimages/chalcogenide_glass_photonic_chip.jpg

You can see above CUDOS researcher Neil Baker holding a chalcogenide glass photonic chip which allows all-optical signal processing. Professor Ben Eggleton appears in the background with two other researchers. (Credit: CUDOS)

This research project has been led for 4 years by Professor Ben Eggleton, Director of the Centre for Ultrahigh bandwidth Devices for Optical Systems (CUDOS) at the University of Sydney. Please look at the research section about Photonic crystals for more details. Before going further, here is what this document says about chalcogenide glass photonic crystals. “Chalcogenide glasses combine a large optical nonlinearity with strong photosensitivity, making them ideal for studying nonlinear photonic effects. Chalcogenide glass photonic crystals are fabricated at the ANU by milling holes in chalcogenide glass films using a focused ion beam. We characterise these structures by measuring transmission and reflection versus incident angle and wavelength.”

Now, here is a quote from the Sydney Morning Herald article. “The device, a photonic integrated circuit, could overcome the gridlock that occurs when information travelling along optical fibres at the speed of light has to be processed by slow, old-fashioned electronic components. This would make almost instantaneous, error-free and unlimited access to the internet possible anywhere in the world, Professor Eggleton said. The market would ultimately decide which technologies were introduced to meet the skyrocketing demand for faster and cheaper downloads. ‘But our job at CUDOS is to go out to the absolute limit, and demonstrate in the lab what is possible,’ he said.”

In “Breaking the Internet’s glass ceiling,” a University of Sydney news release (July 9, 2008), you’ll find additional details. “‘This is a critical building block and a fundamental advance on what is already out there. We are talking about networks that are potentially up to 100 times faster without costing the consumer any more,’ says Federation Fellow Professor Ben Eggleton, Director of CUDOS, based within the School of Physics at the University of Sydney. Eggleton, whose team beat their deadline by a year, says that up until now information has been moving at a slow rate but optical fibres have a huge capacity to deliver more. ‘The scratched glass we’ve developed is actually a Photonic Integrated Circuit,’ he says.”

This research work has been presented at the 13th Opto-Electronics and Communications Conference (OECC) held in Sydney, on July 7-10, 2008, under the title “Error-free 640Gb/s demultiplexing using a chalcogenide planar waveguidechip” (PDF format, 3 pages, 268 KB).

The team also published a highly technical article for Optics and Photonics News, “Chalcogenide Glass Photonic Chips, Signal processing for the next generation of the Internet (PDF format, 6 pages, 484 KB). The picture above comes from this document.

Here is a key part of the conclusion of the paper. “Chalcogenide glasses offer an interesting and exciting new platform for developing all-optical signal processing devices for the photonic equivalent of the electronic chip. These devices will be able to demultiplex high data rate signals, convert the carrier wavelength, and perform other functions, such as optical signal regeneration and packet buffering and switching. Further improvements in device performance are needed in order to achieve all-optical signal processing at data rates for future telecommunications applications (e.g., at 160 to 640 Gb/s).”

Finally, if you want to learn more about these photonic crystals, take a look at an Elsevier scientific publication, Photonics and Nanostructures - Fundamentals and Applications and read the abstract of a paper called “Chalcogenide glass photonic crystals” (Volume 6, Issue 1, April 2008, Pages 3-11). “All-optical switching devices are based on a material possessing a nonlinear optical response, enabling light to control light, and are enjoying renewed interest. Photonic crystals are a promising platform for realizing compact all-optical switches operating at very low power and integrated on an optical integrated circuit. In this review, we show that by making photonic crystals from a highly nonlinear chalcogenide glass, we have the potential to integrate a variety of active devices into a photonic chip.” Interestingly, you cannot access the full paper for free from the abstract, but you can from the home page of the journal — at least today.


*blogs.zdnet.com/emergingtech/?p=977
K
Jul 13, 2008 at 9:23 PM
dream on!!!!
Sumeet_naik
Jul 13, 2008 at 10:32 PM
I cud go wit 1 by 640 of tat speed..
krates
krates #4
Jul 13, 2008 at 10:36 PM
faster than my hdd speed :D :D
A
Jul 13, 2008 at 10:41 PM
!!!!!!!!! WoW !!!!!!!!
Sukhdeep Singh
Jul 13, 2008 at 10:53 PM
I am happy even if i get 1Gb/s at nominal price of Rs 500 a month. No caps :D
Lucky_star
Jul 13, 2008 at 11:08 PM
Now we need faster hard disks...
max_demon
Jul 13, 2008 at 11:35 PM
we need content from net too*
mavihs
mavihs #9
Jul 14, 2008 at 12:52 AM
i'll be happy if i get even 50mbps!!!
Cyrus_the_virus
Jul 14, 2008 at 1:13 AM
Guys, it for backbone networks, not for end to end connectivity, it's just going to increase the capacity of existing backbone networks so that it can support more users and remove existing throttling and not increase your end user speeds. It's just that instead of fibre optic cables, these cables could be used giving so much more bandwidth. So if you thought you already had a fibre optic connection to your house, then you can keep on dreaming about increased speeds.
iinfi
iinfi #11
Jul 14, 2008 at 1:25 AM
if at all it is going to increase my net speed i know wat MTNL's plan wud be

Speed:1 Gb/s, Amount:Rs.500, Duration: 1 month, Data Transfer: 1GB
NucleusKore
Jul 14, 2008 at 1:32 AM
Now we need not worry about this :D

*img440.imageshack.us/img440/1008/downloadwwwdc6cz0.gif
max_demon
max_demon #13
Jul 14, 2008 at 7:57 AM
we are not satisfied in what we get , suppose i now have 256 ul . i wish for atleast 2mbps speed . my oder friend has 2 mbps he wants 10 or 20 mbps . like that only . so even if we get that speed , we will desire for more
Sukhdeep Singh
Jul 14, 2008 at 8:22 AM
we are not satisfied in what we get , suppose i now have 256 ul . i wish for atleast 2mbps speed . my oder friend has 2 mbps he wants 10 or 20 mbps . like that only . so even if we get that speed , we will desire for more

Economics student :rolleyes: :D
x3060
x3060 #15
Jul 14, 2008 at 9:44 AM
just give me unlimited connection for 200/- , 1mbps ....thats enough
skeletor
skeletor #16
Jul 14, 2008 at 3:42 PM
Seriosuly, dream on!!!

Such types of things are invented every month or so, but the question which remains is..."When they'll go mainstream??".......
R
Jul 14, 2008 at 3:58 PM
^or when will it go down the "indianstream"
Ecko
Ecko #18
Jul 14, 2008 at 4:16 PM
Now start pirating HD-DVD Rips*files.myopera.com/Tamil/Smilies/BigGrin.gif *files.myopera.com/Tamil/Smilies/Tease.gif

HaHa
We'll get 8MBPS BSNL at 2 Rs Unlimited
No newspaper
No TV
Just Internet
anispace
anispace #19
Jul 14, 2008 at 4:55 PM
Guys, it for backbone networks, not for end to end connectivity, it's just going to increase the capacity of existing backbone networks so that it can support more users and remove existing throttling and not increase your end user speeds. It's just that instead of fibre optic cables, these cables could be used giving so much more bandwidth. So if you thought you already had a fibre optic connection to your house, then you can keep on dreaming about increased speeds.

very true. Even d ADSL system(used by mtnl and bsnl) which uses the existing plain twisted pair copper wires can support upto 24Mbps per user. But that does not translate to 24Mbps download speed for us. In the end its upto the ISP how much bw it can afford to provide.
J
jigu #20
Jul 14, 2008 at 4:59 PM
this shows how we indians are far behing in net speed.

don't be happy we have to wait for 10 yrs for this.:(:(
hullap
hullap #21
Jul 14, 2008 at 5:22 PM
we are not satisfied in what we get , suppose i now have 256 ul . i wish for atleast 2mbps speed . my oder friend has 2 mbps he wants 10 or 20 mbps . like that only . so even if we get that speed , we will desire for more

actually thats not always the case
im satisfied with my 256ul connection :)
dheeraj_kumar
Jul 14, 2008 at 5:56 PM
I'll change my name* when BSNL introduces 2 mbps unlimited at <2000 rupees.
*conditions apply.
Cyrus_the_virus
Jul 14, 2008 at 9:54 PM
U will get this seed in India by 2070

wow, that's a brave prediction. Did you know that India reached from 56Kbps to 8000Kbps in just 5-6 years? And the rest of the world reached from 0Kbps to 24,000Kbps in just under 20years? And at this rate, you still reckon it's going to take till 2070?
Sukhdeep Singh
Jul 14, 2008 at 10:00 PM
Dont wory, When India progesses, it progress at a Rapid Pace. Take Mobile Phones as example, what was the scene ten years ago. Take our progress from Dialup to Broadband as a example even :)
axxo
axxo #26
Jul 15, 2008 at 3:19 PM
wow, that's a brave prediction. Did you know that India reached from 56Kbps to 8000Kbps in just 5-6 years? And the rest of the world reached from 0Kbps to 24,000Kbps in just under 20years? And at this rate, you still reckon it's going to take till 2070?

correction are we getting 8000kbps for the same price as 56 kbps? Technology is there but what's affordable for most user matters here. Cellphones are common because its made affordable for everyone thats why we are using today. Now we should not tell 8mps connection is in India, bcoz its still not feasible for common people in India. So i Would say in 5-6 yrs the growth is only 5times, i.e 256 kbps.
Sukhdeep Singh
Jul 15, 2008 at 4:08 PM
^^ Do you remember the time when Internet hours pack used to costs in thousands ?
Cyrus_the_virus
Jul 15, 2008 at 4:10 PM
correction are we getting 8000kbps for the same price as 56 kbps? Technology is there but what's affordable for most user matters here. Cellphones are common because its made affordable for everyone thats why we are using today. Now we should not tell 8mps connection is in India, bcoz its still not feasible for common people in India. So i Would say in 5-6 yrs the growth is only 5times, i.e 256 kbps.

sorry dude, you got it wrong, even before broadband came, there were thousands of people like me who spent 300Rs for every 10hrs excluding phone charges and ended up paying about 3K every month for accessing the internet via dialup. Today, 8Mbps is already available in many places for 2K-3k and no time limits, you could probably get 10times more work done in a month than what you would do on a dialup. Sad to hear that you still think that 256Kbps is the norm.

^^ Do you remember the time when Internet hours pack used to costs in thousands ?

He probably never used internet then or his parents never allowed him to spend that much money!;-)
axxo
axxo #29
Jul 15, 2008 at 6:27 PM
^^ Do you remember the time when Internet hours pack used to costs in thousands ?

So what can u deny the fact that most Internet parlours at that time were running only 256/512 kbps? and home users were limited to 56kbps, thats the standard.
Now the growth in both extremes are 5 times..Internet centers upto 2mbps and for home users upto 256kbps...and am speaking uncapped and unlimited bb. Dont tell that we got 2mbps for 250RS.

sorry dude, you got it wrong, even before broadband came, there were thousands of people like me who spent 300Rs for every 10hrs excluding phone charges and ended up paying about 3K every month for accessing the internet via dialup. Today, 8Mbps is already available in many places for 2K-3k and no time limits, you could probably get 10times more work done in a month than what you would do on a dialup. Sad to hear that you still think that 256Kbps is the norm.

I know dialup is costlier..but what about the broadband cost in 5 yrs dude? we were paying 900 4-5 yrs before for 256kbps and still we are paying amlost the same(reduced to 750 2 months before). 8mbps for 2k? intelligently used the keyword no time limits :D like what ISP normally reveal their plan, what about the download limit then? We aren't expecting 8mbps UL but atleast 2mbps unlimited for the price what we are paying now for 256kbps. IS the expectation so high?

He probably never used internet then or his parents never allowed him to spend that much money!:wink:
Nope I was using a corporate shared 56kbps account in 96-97, so only telephone rent counts.
Cyrus_the_virus
Jul 15, 2008 at 6:49 PM
I know dialup is costlier..but what about the broadband cost in 5 yrs dude? we were paying 900 4-5 yrs before for 256kbps and still we are paying amlost the same(reduced to 750 2 months before). 8mbps for 2k? intelligently used the keyword no time limits :D like what ISP normally reveal their plan, what about the download limit then?

that's what I meant, there is enough bandwidth available per month to get your work done for the same time it took you 3months on a dialup. I'm not talking about the generation that is bent up on misusing bandwidth and downloading pirated stuff through torrents and file sharing sites(NO ISP in the world can fullfil that need as it's like drugs.. the more you take it. the more you need it.)

We aren't expecting 8mbps UL but atleast 2mbps unlimited for the price what we are paying now for 256kbps. IS the expectation so high?

Are you one of those who still think that something called 'Unlimited Broadband' Exists in this world? Let me bring you upto speed, there is nothing in the world called 'unlimited broadband'. You must be wondering what I'm talking about when ISP's in the US give unlimited connections. You see, till recently majority of ISP users in the world ran on 512Kbps and 1Mbps lines where even if they downloaded 24x7, it would still come under 200GB a month and that wasn't too much for those ISP's, but when higher speeds came in the bandwidths increased rapidly and all ISP's started bringing in cappings. If you still think those advertised as unlimited are really unlimited, then you need to take a look at the *(star) besides unlimited and read the terms as to what they say. Many ISP's have bought in something called 'Fair Usage Policy' where if you exceed a certain limit, your speeds are capped although the account is an unlimited one.
Sukhdeep Singh
Jul 15, 2008 at 8:06 PM
^^ Do you remember the time when Internet hours pack used to costs in thousands ?

So what can u deny the fact that most Internet parlours at that time were running only 256/512 kbps? and home users were limited to 56kbps, thats the standard.
Now the growth in both extremes are 5 times..Internet centers upto 2mbps and for home users upto 256kbps...and am speaking uncapped and unlimited bb. Dont tell that we got 2mbps for 250RS.

Didnt get how my reply and this one is related :confused: I am just hightlighting the fact, that technological advancements dont take much time either. Most of the PC of your friends might be having 80GB or 40GB HDD. See now, average goes to 500 or 320GB.

Most countries who have HIGH speed broadband now, like in US and Europe, the development there also happened in a few years. India is just a few years behind. Blame the Govt here, take ages to pass decisions :(
axxo
axxo #32
Jul 16, 2008 at 1:26 AM
that's what I meant, there is enough bandwidth available per month to get your work done for the same time it took you 3months on a dialup. I'm not talking about the generation that is bent up on misusing bandwidth and downloading pirated stuff through torrents and file sharing sites(NO ISP in the world can fullfil that need as it's like drugs.. the more you take it. the more you need it.)

wait..are not the other people inworld downloading the above with great speeds in excess of 10 mbps connection?

Are you one of those who still think that something called 'Unlimited Broadband' Exists in this world? Let me bring you upto speed, there is nothing in the world called 'unlimited broadband'. You must be wondering what I'm talking about when ISP's in the US give unlimited connections. You see, till recently majority of ISP users in the world ran on 512Kbps and 1Mbps lines where even if they downloaded 24x7, it would still come under 200GB a month and that wasn't too much for those ISP's, but when higher speeds came in the bandwidths increased rapidly and all ISP's started bringing in cappings. If you still think those advertised as unlimited are really unlimited, then you need to take a look at the *(star) besides unlimited and read the terms as to what they say. Many ISP's have bought in something called 'Fair Usage Policy' where if you exceed a certain limit, your speeds are capped although the account is an unlimited one.

Im not sure about you. I know friends of me @UK who enjoy UL throughout the day on shared 10mbps connection. Well if you think caps like in India exists on their connection then there won't even be a technology like torrent or p2p may be there with one or 2 exception but not most or all.

Didnt get how my reply and this one is related :confused: I am just hightlighting the fact, that technological advancements dont take much time either. Most of the PC of your friends might be having 80GB or 40GB HDD. See now, average goes to 500 or 320GB.

me too agree that technology advancement is there but not for us in internet connectivity.

Most countries who have HIGH speed broadband now, like in US and Europe, the development there also happened in a few years. India is just a few years behind. Blame the Govt here, take ages to pass decisions

That's the point myself want to highlight. This the reason why someone said 640gb+ speed will be awaiting for us in 2070 :cool:
Cyrus_the_virus
Jul 16, 2008 at 4:00 AM
Im not sure about you. I know friends of me @UK who enjoy UL throughout the day on shared 10mbps connection. Well if you think caps like in India exists on their connection then there won't even be a technology like torrent or p2p may be there with one or 2 exception but not most or all.

The exact point that I'm trying to tell you, few of them here will know why I'm saying this. Listen, ask your friends to read the contract papers they signed with the ISP. Demon Internet, a UK ISP has a limit of 40GB on their 8Mbps connection which is advertised as "Unlimited". What happens when they cross this barrier? Their connection get cut down to 320Kbps:rolleyes: Only pirates with heavy p2p download cross this barrier and come to realize that it's not really unlimited! The case is similar with other ISP's in the UK. It's called "Fair Usage Policy"

Dude, wake up, there is nothing called unlimited, every ISP one way or the other has a cap. Period!

Maybe you need to read carefully through these:

*news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7483675.stm
But Virgin Media did admit that users would be subject to its so-called traffic management system, which caps data usage during peak hours.
*www.theregister.co.uk/2008/05/29/virgin_media_daytime_restrictions/

Virgin Media says that at current levels of demand, one per cent of its 3.8 million customers will be affected by the new daytime restrictions. In the evening, when ISP networks are under most strain, traffic limits are aimed at the top five per cent heaviest users.

*img296.imageshack.us/img296/6068/virginmediazc0.png
And here's a customer account:

*img134.imageshack.us/img134/7839/nildramyb1.th.jpg

It's a screenshot of a Nildram ISP user account in the UK. As you can see, it has a cap of 50GB, period! nothing more! you cannot pay for more like you do in India and there is no night unlimited like you get with BSNL with which you can download more than 150GB per month.
casanova
casanova #34
Jul 16, 2008 at 1:24 PM
Thats 7000 Rs/Sec. Roughly the cost of 750 Gigs
P
Jul 18, 2008 at 4:01 AM
vow unimaginable speed.........................