^(*)^ Advice Needed ^(*)^

In professional series..sony sucks..this is a fact....i shopped for my digicam..in chennai...hyd....mumbai...all shop owners say that..and chk some photography blos u know that......so please remove options 1&2.....

coming to others....i would anyday bet money on Nikon.......its great..the RAW settings are amazing.....and so are the customization....

I personally use Fuji.....now....its cost me 29k......

p.s. I am Fuji user....but abt sony....i asssure u..its for point and shoot....

Thnx for ur reply bro.
I'll surely take a note of that.

By the way u've any other Cams in mind for this budget ?

hehhehe..sorry for being a fan of fuji....

check out fuji and canon range......

1.FUJIFILM FINEPIX S8100 FD 10 MP ...this is great...

Number of effective pixels *1
10.0 million pixels
CCD sensor
1/2.3-inch CCD
Storage media Internal memory (Approx. 58MB)
xD-Picture Card™ (16MB - 2GB)
SD memory card
SDHC memory card *2
File format Still image

JPEG (Exif Ver 2.2) *3
Movie

AVI (Motion JPEG) with sound
Audio

WAVE format, Monaural sound

(Design rule for Camera File system compliant / DPOF-compatible)
Number of recorded pixels
Still image: 3,648x2,736 / 3,648x2,432 (3:2 format) / 2,592x1,944 / 2,048x1,536 / 1,600x1,200 / 640x480 pixels
Lens
Fujinon 18x Optical zoom lens, F2.8(Wide) - F4.5(Telephoto)
Lens focal length
f=4.7mm - 84.2mm, Equivalent to 27 - 486mm on a 35mm camera
Aperture
F2.8 - F8.0(Wide) / F4.5 - F8.0(Telephoto), max 10 steps in 1/3 EV increment
Digital zoom
Approx. 5.7x
Focus distance Normal
Wide angle: Approx. 70cm / 2.3ft. to infinity
Telephoto: Approx. 1.5m / 4.9ft. to infinity
Macro
Wide angle: Approx. 10cm / 0.3ft. to 80cm / 2.6ft.
Telephoto: Approx. 1.2m / 3.9ft. to 3.2m / 10.5ft.
Super Macro
Approx. 1cm / 0.4in. to 10cm / 0.3ft.
Sensitivity
Auto / Auto (1600) / Auto (800) / Auto (400) / Equivalent to ISO 64 / 100 / 200 / 400 / 800 / 1600 / 3200 / 6400 (Standard Output Sensitivity)

* ISO3200 / 6400: 5M pixels or lower (Number of recorded pixels)
Exposure control
TTL 256-zone metering
Exposure modes
Programmed AE, Aperture Priority AE, Shutter Priority AE, Manual
Shooting modes Mode dial

Auto, PS (Picture Stabilization), Natural Light, Natural Light & with Flash, ZOOM Bracketing, SP, P, A, S, M, Movie
SP

Portrait, Landscape, Sport, Night, Fireworks, Sunset, Snow, Beach, Museum, Party, Flower, Text, Auction
Image Stabilizer
CCD-shift type
Shutter speed
1/4 sec. to 1/2000 sec. (AUTO mode)

4 sec. to 1/2000 sec. (All other modes)
Continuous shooting Top-3 (max 1.1 frames/sec.)
Long-period (max 0.5 frames/sec.)
Top-33, Hgh spped (max 6.8 frames/sec., 5M pixels or lower)
Top-33, Ultra High speed (max 13.5 frames/sec., 3M pixels or lower)
Auto Bracketing
±1/3EV,±2/3EV,±1EV
Focus Auto focus (Area, Multi, Center) / Continuous AF / Manual focus
AF assist illuminator available
White balance
Automatic scene recognition, Preset (Fine, Shade, Fluorescent light (Daylight), Fluorescent light (Warm White), Fluorescent light (Cool White), Incandescent light), Custom
Self-timer
Approx. 10sec. / 2sec. delay
Flash
Auto flash
Effective range: (ISO AUTO(800))
Wide angle: Aapprox. 0.5m - 8.8m / 1.6ft - 28.9ft
Telephoto angle: Approx. 0.5m - 5.6m / 1.6ft - 18.4ft
Macro: Approx. 0.3m - 3m / 1.0ft - 9.8ft
Flash modes:
Red-eye removal OFF : Auto, Forced Flash, Suppressed Flash, Slow Synchro
Red-eye removal ON : Red-eye Reduction Auto, Red-eye Reduction & Forced Flash, Suppressed Flash, Red-eye Reduction & Slow Synchro
Electronic Viewfinder
0.24-inch, Approx. 230,000 dots color LCD monitor, Approx. 97% coverage, 60fps
LCD monitor
2.5-inch, Approx. 230,000 dots, Amorphos silicon TFT color LCD monitor(WV type), Approx. 97% coverage, 60fps
Movie recording 640x480 pixels, 30 frames/sec.
320x240 pixels, 30 frames/sec.

With monaural sound, With Electronic Image Stabilization

* Zoom function cannot be used during movie recording.
Photography functions
Zoom Bracketing, Instant Zoom, Face Detection (with red-eye removal), High speed shooting, Best framing, Post shot assist windows, Frame No.memory, Histograms
Playback functions
Face Detection, Slide show, Scrap book view slide show, Trimming, Multi-frame playback (with Micro Thumbnail), High-speed playback, Sorting by date, Image rotate, Voice Memo, Histograms (Highlight warning)
Video output
NTSC / PAL selectable
Digital input/output
USB
Power supply *4
4 x AA type alkaline batteries (included) / 4 x AA type Ni-MH rechargeable batteries (optional) or AC power adapter AC-5VX (optional)
Dimensions
111.3(W)x78.2(H)x79.3(D) mm / 4.4(W)x3.1(H)x3.1(D) in. (excluding accessories and attachments)
Weight
Approx. 405g/14.3oz. (excluding accessories, batteries and memory card)

Sorry for the copy paste..but the cam costs here abt 18k.... so u may want to blow extra for useful stuff like...carry bag...mem card..tripod, get one if u serious abt nature photo..u know that....extra battery..chargers....

SONY CYBERSHOT DSC H10 or H9..if u want to chk out sony..but dont

this could be classifeid as entry-level-semi-pro camera....its my classification..hheheh

Thanks yaar, this one is looking good.

bought canon s5is last week..
its really amazing.. check it out

+1.........hey @power...

check that to...its looks good..but expensive i guess...

aditya...cost....

he needs under 20k..

^^ its 20k only with 2gb card..

then power..one more in basket.....

chk the service in ur parts..for me in tvm..canon is a no no..service in kochi or so..anyways they took 1 week min....

fuji..they have here..i guess..they gave back in 3 days....


hehehhe..i am fuji all way......

but here both good...hold them both in ur hands..ergo mui impotanto...check the natural and iso settings...

then decide..please stay away from sony..they just dont have the cut....just go to some reputed digi-studios in ur place and ask around...

What you say about Pansonic fz18 guys ?

I heard it is for just Rs16,000.

And I've also seen the sample pictures taken with it and they were amazing.

hmm...panasonic....sorry dude...i been in photography for last 4years..never i had took a panasonic in my hands....even none of my frnds have one....

i dunno much abt panasonic brand....so ur own ur own...try to keep it between fuji and canon..that canon is a bloody good model also....

if money is the pblm then go for fuji..i assure you....

Can u show me some photographs taken with it bro ? (Sorry, I'm giving u lots of headache. [] )

well pal...

as i told u i dont use both cams..so how can i......i am using another one..its 29..outaa ur budget....anyways how the hell can i upload the photos taken by them in full res..not to mention..RAW..hheheheh...

wher u from..tell me that first??any metro...i am sure ther are dealers just go ther...its not always abt the pic frn......its abt lots of things...mailny weight and how it feels in ur hand..the customization..

I'm not from a metropolitan city but a big District (Nanded) of Maharashtra which is still lagging behind of others when it comes to IT field.

Thnx for ur reply bro.

hmm...but in mh....near to mumbai or pune....chk some places out..or order it..online....

I'll buy it from Mumbai, or will order from my place if possible.

i dont think this is the proper section for this

Dont u think we r violating some forum rules???

How brother ?

@ Madjeri

R u sure that I can get FUJIFILM FINEPIX S8100FD for Rs. 18,000 ?

@michael....

read forum rules....

@power...dude prices do vary from place to plcae...go and check out the cams...price and features and which one u likes..

any brands..ok..then we will discuss..so tht u get a sure shot...

p.s.check for fuji and canon first....hehehhe

U r a hardcore fan of Fuji man

i am.....

and i do favour canon for their exquisite EOS and rebel range....and casio's super slim exilim or exislim range....i do use one for casul photography...fits right in my pocket...

Hey bro, now I'm confused between Panasonic FZ18 & Olympus 570

power_8383 said:

Hey bro, now I'm confused between Panasonic FZ18 & Olympus 570

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Specs wise Olympus 570 is very good in that it offers real wide zoom, has a larger LCD, more MP, etc.. but the few things which are in favour of FZ18 are the battery type and the memory card type.
Battery in FZ18 is Li ion which I feel is much better than the 4 AA batteries in 570. You need to carry an extra set of 4 AAs and a charger always, and flash recycle times are poorer in AAs.
xD memory cards are way too costly compared to SD cards that the FZ18 uses. SD cards are dirt cheap.. you get a 2GB one for less than 400 bucks..
These 2 factors are very important to me. And quality of pics is equally good in both. So I'll recommend a FZ18 if you do not need the extra MP and wide zoom.

R u sure that I'll not regret after buying FZ18 ?
As I'm from middle class family, I cant even dream of buying a digital camera for atleast 4-5 years after buying this.

Is there a lot of difference in zooming between 20X and 18X ?

What are the pros and cons of both cameras ?

power_8383 said:

R u sure that I'll not regret after buying FZ18 ?
As I'm from middle class family, I cant even dream of buying a digital camera for atleast 4-5 years after buying this.

Is there a lot of difference in zooming between 20X and 18X ?

What are the pros and cons of both cameras ?

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Pros and cons I've mentioned already that I know.. Check some professional review sites like dpreview.com or steves-digicams.com to find out more info. And the extra 2x zoom hardly makes any difference.. really..!! If you want, you can always add a macro lens and a tele lens to your kit by spending around 1000 bucks each.. And don't worry, most of us here including me are from middle class families and our suggestions come out of goodwill, so that you get the best product.. (Of course, there are some fanboys in this forum, but that doesn't apply to photography.. )

Now go check the review sites.. then go to the shop and try and get a demo for each and then decide..
And believe me, 4 AA batteries are too much.. if you can live with lugging around 4 AAs and a bulky charger, then ignore this aspect. And for memory cards, I just checked out and found that a SDHC 2GB card with bill costs around 690 rs, while a xD 1GB card is around 1100 bucks..

My bet is still with the FZ18.. Get it.. you won't regret it..!

Also search for "olympus 570 or panasonic FZ18" in google.

Here are some pros and cons I got now:

Olympus SP-570
Pros:
• 10MP
• 20x zoom (26mm – 520mm)
• Wide Angle
• Hot shoe for attaching external flash
• 13.5 frames per sec continuous shooting
• RAW file format
• Sensor = 1 / 2.33” slighlty larger but accomodates more pixels

Cons:
• New technology so not much info on the net about how it performs
• XD memory only
• Slightly heavier than the Panasonic (445g vs 407g)
• Slightly more expensive than the Panasonic
• 4 AA battery
• Video res = 640 x 480 30fps (which still isn’t bad at all!)


Panasonic DMC-FZ18
Pros:
• 8MP is still great
• 18x zoom (28mm – 504mm)
• Wide Angle
• Some really great reviews on this camera available online with many people loving it
• Li-on battery
• SD+SDHC ready
• Awesome video mode (16:9 Aspect Ratio: 848 x 480 pixels 30 fps)

Cons:
• Sensor = 1 / 2.5” but with lesser pixels - so might be a pro after all..
• Not as wide as the Olympus
• Not as big zoom as the Olympus
• No hot shoe

I've checked all the sites, forums for reviews & analysis etc before crating this thread.

u r right I've also noticed the difference between price of those memory cards.

I've asked the same question at many different forums and 7 out of 10 are suggesting me to purchase FZ18.

I hope 2x optical zoom wont make a big difference


Thnx again for your precious reply brother.

power_8383 said:

I've checked all the sites, forums for reviews & analysis etc before crating this thread.

u r right I've also noticed the difference between price of those memory cards.

I've asked the same question at many different forums and 7 out of 10 are suggesting me to purchase FZ18.

I hope 2x optical zoom wont make a big difference


Thnx again for your precious reply brother.

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Make that 8 out of 11 Get an FZ18.. the extra 2 x zoom doesn't make much dfference, and as I mentioned earlier, you can always add more lenses.. I will definitely go for FZ18 if given a choice..

BTW, I have a FZ8 that I purchased recently, and I can assure you that it is an excellent cam. I couldn't go for a FZ18 due to budget constraints

By the way

battery Li-Ion Or 4 x AA
Which will u prefer ?

How many shots can I get with fully charged 4*AA ?

power_8383 said:

By the way

battery Li-Ion Or 4 x AA
Which will u prefer ?

How many shots can I get with fully charged 4*AA ?

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Of course Li ion..that weighed heavily in my decision to get a FZ8 rather than Canon Sx100 or the Fuji S8000fd. I'm not sure how many photos you'll get from 4AAs but my previous Canon A75 used to give me around 150 pics with 2700 mAH NiMH cells. With the Li ion I'm getting around 350 pics with a single charge on my FZ8, and that includes frequent reviewing and zooming.
Generally Li ion is better because you get more pics, and most importantly the flash recycle time is very less here. On the down side, it costs more.
AA batteries are available anywhere, but don't expect more than 10 pics from an ordinary AA, and probably not more than 30 to 40 from a Duracell. If you want to settle for the Olympus then get yourself 2 sets of AA batteries from the Sanyo Eneloop series. they last more..!

prasad_den said:

my previous Canon A75 used to give me around 150 pics with 2700 mAH NiMH cells. With the Li ion I'm getting around 350 pics with a single charge on my FZ8, and that includes frequent reviewing and zooming.

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This is a big plus point yaar, going in the favor of FZ18.
I'm being attracted more n more towards FZ18 now.

power_8383 said:

This is a big plus point yaar, going in the favor of FZ18.
I'm being attracted more n more towards FZ18 now.

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I keep repeating this again and again.. Get the FZ18.. you won't regret it..
But if you have the option of holding both the FZ18 and the 570UZ in your hands and having a demo, then you'll feel more comfortable in your decision. Ultimately, its you who's gonna use it, and you must feel comfortable holding the cam and clicking pics. And really, the FZ18 rocks..

Yes, after reading ur replies & chking lots of other forums and sites, I came to know that Olympus has only 2x advantage over FZ18

So it is now 80% of chances that I'll buy FZ18

I hope I wont regret after buying it

You won't...!! Simple..!

Bro, I had contacted to JJMehta Guys asking which is the best megazoom camera and its price.
They said that Panasonic DMC FZ18 is the best bridge camera available today and its price is 28,000

is this price right ?

power_8383 said:

Bro, I had contacted to JJMehta Guys asking which is the best megazoom camera and its price.
They said that Panasonic DMC FZ18 is the best bridge camera available today and its price is 28,000

is this price right ?

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28K is way too costly for an FZ18..!! It should not cost you more than 20K with bill. A grey piece can be obtained for about 16 to 17K.. If you are in Mumbai, try Alfa..!

Do they have any website or e-mail address ro contact on ?
By the way I must tell u that I've never seen such an active member on Digit's forum.

You rock bro.

I'll give u a party when I buy my first Digicam

power_8383 said:

Do they have any website or e-mail address ro contact on ?
By the way I must tell u that I've never seen such an active member on Digit's forum.

You rock bro.

I'll give u a party when I buy my first Digicam

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Alfa doesn't have any website... Go directly there.. BTW where are you from..?

And Thanks for the compliment.. There are so many other active members in Digit, but each one has his own interests and restrictions. The only reason I could help you out so much is that I myself purchased a FZ8 3 weeks ago, and I had researched for almost 4 months before that to come to a conclusion.. I am just passing on what little knowledge I had gained then.. I'm happy its of benefit to you..!

Reg the party, waiting for it..!!

Its indeed a benefit for me bro.


by the way, I'm from Nanded district of Maharashtra state. (2nd largest in Marathwada Region after Aurangabad.)

I cant goto Mumbai just for inquiry of a product.

power_8383 said:

Its indeed a benefit for me bro.


by the way, I'm from Nanded district of Maharashtra state. (2nd largest in Marathwada Region after Aurangabad.)

I cant goto Mumbai just for inquiry of a product.

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Try to get the help of some other forum members here who are from Mumbai.. may be they can find out the price and let you know.. Otherwise if you have decided to get the cam for sure, make a trip directly to Mumbai.. Just in case you didn't know - Take a slow local train in Mumbai to get down at Ville Parle, and then take an auto to Alfa.. You won't have any problems getting the cam there.. You can also look at both FZ18 and 570UZ and decide which one to buy..
P.S: Alfa doesn't accept credit cards or debit cards for obvious reasons, so you need to take the cash in hand..

AS I said earlier before, I'm from middle class family & buying Credit card is my dream.

by the way, can u give me address of Alfa or any other shop u recommend.

power_8383 said:

AS I said earlier before, I'm from middle class family & buying Credit card is my dream.

by the way, can u give me address of Alfa or any other shop u recommend.

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Alfa is the only one i know in Mumbai... I'm not from Mumbai you see..
Alfa is in Irla, Ville Parle. As i said earlier, take a train to ville parle, and from there ask an auto wala to take you to Alfa. He'll know, and it costs around 13 bucks.. thats all..!

Oh Sorry, I didnt know that you are from The new cherry..!!

I'll again contact you in this forum with another question.

Hey Prasad, how is the new Nikon CoolPix P80 ?

Its also looking great yaar.

Hey guys, The Nikon Coolpix P80 is looking better than Panasonic FZ18 in the following product faceoff.

*www.digitalversus.com/duels.php?ty=1&ma1=31&mo1=556&p1=3505&ma2=60&mo2=389&p2=2586&ph=2


I had decided to buy FZ18, but now a new & good camera is again creating confusion in my mind.

Decided to buy FZ18
It Will come in hands most probably in this week.

I've just purchased the Panasonic FZ18 for Rs. 18000. (Without Bill)[]

I want to thank all of you who have replied me n suggested me some good suggestion.[]



Now if this discussion would help any other newcomer in the future, then I will consider this topic as a fruitful.[]