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All questions about Gnome Theming Here

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MetalheadGautham
MetalheadGautham Original post #1
Dec 22, 2007 at 3:37 PM
This is the thread where you can ask all questions you want about adding themes in gnome, creating and editing or exporting themes, changing the way gnome looks and adding/removing desktop icons, etc.

First some basic must visit links:


1. Examples


This is a thread for people to show off their custom linux desktops. There are several good gnome desktops here, and you can get an idea as a newbie as for what to expect here.

2. Mac4Lin


This is infra_red_dude's project for bringing the Macintosh's look and feel to gnome. If you want a no-fuss Leopard look alike in Gnome, go here and bug infra all you want with questions and suggestions, but no questions on that topic here.(Mine is too low class compared to his :lol: )

3. G-Tweak UI


This is a software kit that can be used to do simple tasks with the appearence of Gnome. To install, type
Code:
sudo apt-get install gtweakui
or visit the link in the title if you are not able to install it via the code given above.
All its functions are easily understood by just looking at its window, as it just consists of a bunch of self explanatory check boxes and buttons. This is a must install for all of you. Its there in System>Preferences then there are 4 programs for gtweakui.

4. Gnome-Look.org

Thats the website where most of the themes and decorations are housed. Just visit it if you need some eye-candy for your gnome and ask here if you have any troubles.

5. Ubuntu Customisation Guide

Thats a brilliant guide by dark star in our own forums for making your ubuntu look to kill. It makes ubuntu the Handsome Duckling of the OSes.



Happy Theming :)
MetalheadGautham
Dec 22, 2007 at 5:51 PM
lemme start:

Where can I get a theme that has every possible icon/pic in it, so that I can use it as a base to create my own theme? If I get such a theme, I plan to replace each file with my own, so that I can create a custom theme. __________________
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FilledVoid #3
Dec 22, 2007 at 6:35 PM
Where can I get a theme that has every possible icon/pic in it

Impossible. Theres no way theres any icon theme that has all possible icons and pics in it. However you can get most of the icons one would use with big icon sets . One example would be Black and White. The download size is 39.5 MB though. So the more the icons. The more the size :)
MetalheadGautham
Dec 22, 2007 at 7:16 PM
exx_2000 said:
Impossible. Theres no way theres any icon theme that has all possible icons and pics in it. However you can get most of the icons one would use with big icon sets . One example would be Black and White. The download size is 39.5 MB though. So the more the icons. The more the size :)
I meant excluding the application, the mime-type icons if thats what you mean.

I thought Mac4Lin looks like a good starting point.
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Hitboxx #5
Dec 22, 2007 at 8:10 PM
I found some nice icons today at Gnome-look to use in dock. (~2.5mb)

*i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb178/ferrous_cranus/aaScreenshot-3.png

*www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/LinPhone+Icons?content=69347
Dark Star
Dec 23, 2007 at 10:39 AM
How about adding a guide which helps theming :p Ubuntu Customization Guide v2..

Nice thread /;) I like Crashbit Icons a lot ;)
phreak0ut
Dec 23, 2007 at 1:42 PM
@Hitboxx-AWESOME desky there. @Gautham-My GDesklets refuses to install additional themes. It always says that the file is not of the right type. What do I do?
MetalheadGautham
Dec 23, 2007 at 1:53 PM
phreak0ut said:
@Hitboxx-AWESOME desky there. @Gautham-My GDesklets refuses to install additional themes. It always says that the file is not of the right type. What do I do?
can you please tell me exactly what happens?
If you try to install stuff that aren't meant for gDesklets, like gnome themes, etc you will get that error. The same thing happens in all applications. The best way to install stuff for gDesklets is through its "Manage Desklets" utitity, where all the available desklets are listed and organised like in Synaptic Package manager or Add/Remove Programs.
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FilledVoid #11
Dec 23, 2007 at 9:08 PM
@Gautham-My GDesklets refuses to install additional themes. It always says that the file is not of the right type. What do I do?
You sure that you aren't using a screenlet theme right?
infra_red_dude
Dec 24, 2007 at 1:22 AM
MetalheadGautham said:
I meant excluding the application, the mime-type icons if thats what you mean.

I thought Mac4Lin looks like a good starting point.
Mac4Lin Icon theme is a good one to start with. It is an extensive icon set.

Also, I can sugges you Oxygen-refit theme. Find it as gnome-look.org. Even that has quite a number of icons.
ray|raven
ray|raven #13
Dec 24, 2007 at 10:16 AM
Perhaps this could be of use,
*live.gnome.org/GnomeArt/Tutorials/IconThemes

Regards,
ray
MetalheadGautham
Dec 24, 2007 at 12:55 PM
Ok, I tried to use M4L as a base, but the number of icons is just too much. I need to replace several hundreds, and before that I have to copy paste the names of the originals in the alternatives. How did you manage to do this much work Anirudh?
infra_red_dude
Dec 24, 2007 at 2:17 PM
^^^ Thats what I said. Mac4Lin Icon theme is extensive and exhaustive! How did I manage to do that?? Well, no shortcuts to hard work :)
MetalheadGautham
Dec 24, 2007 at 2:29 PM
infra_red_dude said:
^^^ Thats what I said. Mac4Lin Icon theme is extensive and exhaustive! How did I manage to do that?? Well, no shortcuts to hard work :)
I know I know... I did learn a lot from those links, BTW. But the problem is that there is no app to do the following:

1. Automatically export your theme setting as a .deb package(like ubuntu studio theme)

2. Help make a theme by allowing you to drag and drop pics you intend to use as icons into a window that has slots for each and every type of icon.
infra_red_dude
Dec 24, 2007 at 2:44 PM
MetalheadGautham said:
1. Automatically export your theme setting as a .deb package(like ubuntu studio theme)

2. Help make a theme by allowing you to drag and drop pics you intend to use as icons into a window that has slots for each and every type of icon.
1) Why do you wanna export your "theme settings" into a .deb package? I mean whaddya wanna exactly do with the poor theme?? ;) All it needs to be done is placed in either /usr/share/icons or ~/.icons folder.

2) Thats too much to ask for man! Thats not possible, coz a complete theme has tens, hundreds and probably thousand icons. So thats just too much. Mac4Lin has 1800-odd icons!

One advise, find the theme that has the most number of icons you wanna use in your new theme (ensure they are gpl'd!!!), then start replacing. I didn't come up with Mac4Lin overnight! So believe me, its gonna take considerable time of yours.

But now that Mac4Lin is out, updating/adding/editing icons is not a big task. Once the base is built, you can live in peace :)
MetalheadGautham
Dec 24, 2007 at 2:48 PM
infra_red_dude said:
1) Why do you wanna export your "theme settings" into a .deb package? I mean whaddya wanna exactly do with the poor theme?? ;) All it needs to be done is placed in either /usr/share/icons or ~/.icons folder.

2) Thats too much to ask for man! Thats not possible, coz a complete theme has tens, hundreds and probably thousand icons (Mac4Lin has about 1800-odd icons!). So thats just too much.

One advise, find the theme that has the most number of icons you wanna use in your new theme (ensure they are gpl'd!!!), then start replacing. I didn't come up with Mac4Lin overnight! So believe me, its gonna take considerable time of yours.

But now that Mac4Lin is out, updating/adding/editing icons is not a big task. Once the base is built, you can live in peace :)
1. its for the same reason you wanna make debs outta m4l
2. ecept for app and mime icons, none of them will create trouble
infra_red_dude
Dec 24, 2007 at 2:56 PM
MetalheadGautham said:
1. its for the same reason you wanna make debs outta m4l
If its only icon theme that you wanna use then a .deb is not necessary. Coz the procedure of installing an icon theme in GNOME is actually just to goto the icon selection theme and press the install button and select the theme!

You can just code a script which extracts the icon theme to the specified folder. But the user still has to goto the Appearances tab to select it to apply. If you wanna automate that too, then you can use the gconf command to apply it. So a script is all this is needed. Plus its not distro depenedent :)

MetalheadGautham said:
2. ecept for app and mime icons, none of them will create trouble
Unfortunately, out of 1800-odd icons in Mac4Lin both of them amount to about half of it!! ;)

So apps/mime/actions are the ones that make up most of the theme files!
MetalheadGautham
Dec 24, 2007 at 3:15 PM
infra_red_dude said:
If its only icon theme that you wanna use then a .deb is not necessary. Coz the procedure of installing an icon theme in GNOME is actually just to goto the icon selection theme and press the install button and select the theme!

You can just code a script which extracts the icon theme to the specified folder. But the user still has to goto the Appearances tab to select it to apply. If you wanna automate that too, then you can use the gconf command to apply it. So a script is all this is needed. Plus its not distro depenedent :)


Unfortunately, out of 1800-odd icons in Mac4Lin both of them amount to about half of it!! ;)

So apps/mime/actions are the ones that make up most of the theme files!
1. Good idea. I will script the installation, like ubuntu studio or something.

2. Thats what I am saying. A theme without mime types and apps. Such a skleton will be easier and more logical. So I am talking about a program that allows us to place other stuff, ecept the apps and mime.
infra_red_dude
Dec 24, 2007 at 3:31 PM
2) Arey yaar, you don't get the point. A theme without apps/mime will almost not haf anything. In that case, how difficult it is to replace each icon manually??

Thing is, the built in gnome/hi color themes are exhaustive too. Just that they lack icons other than the default apps. So you can use them. You must've seen a lot of themes falling back to the default ones in case it misses any icons. The theme config files contains the entry where the default fallback theme is indicated for that particular theme.

So believe me, its not an easy job creating the software which will haf fields with filenames wherein you just hafta select the icon image. Also icons come in different sizes 8x8, 16x16.. etc. So you need different sized pics. Simply resizing them distorts the icon (unless they are in vector format).

But then again, nothing is impossible. Go ahead and create your own Icon-Maker package :)
MetalheadGautham
Dec 24, 2007 at 3:39 PM
^^for a guy still learning Basic C++ and who has no knowledge of C and who is struggling to find alternatives for Borland Commands in GCC + NCurses, do you think I can make an Icon Maker Package?
MetalheadGautham
Dec 25, 2007 at 8:14 PM
infra_red_dude said:
^^^ Why not? :)
Its possible, but not now...


anyway, can you tell me where to start for GTK C++ Programming?
QwertyManiac
Dec 25, 2007 at 8:21 PM
Yeah all you need are available functions. Anyone with a decent problem solving skill can do it, you don't have to be ultra proficient to create stuff, you may need that kind of skill only when you need to optimize and create efficient stuff.

Just follow this simple tutorial link:
*www.gtk.org/tutorial/
MetalheadGautham
Dec 25, 2007 at 8:37 PM
QwertyManiac said:
Yeah all you need are available functions. Anyone with a decent problem solving skill can do it, you don't have to be ultra proficient to create stuff, you may need that kind of skill only when you need to optimize and create efficient stuff.

Just follow this simple tutorial link:
*www.gtk.org/tutorial/
I forgot C, I only know C++, so please give me another link:|
MetalheadGautham
Dec 26, 2007 at 1:21 PM
Gnome Menu Customisation

I have a few questions regarding the Gnome Menu:

1. I use Ubuntu, and I want to replace that Ubuntu Logo in the menu with another image. How can I do That?

2. I want to merge the menus and make a single MetalMenu(tm). I also want to customise that single menu, sothat it expands to have along with applications, places & system, some custom launchers and quick launch, along with a dictionary box and a search box and some other goodies from the "Add to Pannel" window. How can I do that?

3. I was impressed with Mint Daryna's menu...
ray|raven
ray|raven #28
Dec 26, 2007 at 1:36 PM
1.Look in the folder
/usr/share/icons/scalable/places/ or ~/.icons/scalable/places/
You should see a file called distributor-logo.svg.
changing it will change the menu icon.

2.If you just want to merge the menus,
there's a merged menu in gnome , add it just like you add any item to the panel.
However,if you want those extra features,
try this: *wiki.ubuntu.com/Slab

3.If you like mint's menu, you could get it for ubuntu,as they share the same base.

Regards,
ray
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Hitboxx #29
Dec 26, 2007 at 1:42 PM
rayraven said:
1.Look in the folder
/usr/share/icons/scalable/places/ or ~/.icons/scalable/places/
You should see a file called distributor-logo.svg.
changing it will change the menu icon.

Regards,
ray
Thanks for this but the icon to change is start-here.png. The distributor-logo.svg is a link to the same.
ray|raven
ray|raven #30
Dec 26, 2007 at 1:47 PM
@Hitboxx,
Thanks for that.
But,changing the distributor-logo.svg will also work as the menu refers to it,I guess.Correct me if am wrong.
Also,I believe it changes with the theme.

Regards,
ray
MetalheadGautham
Dec 26, 2007 at 2:11 PM
^^I still don't understand why anirudh forgot to put the apple logo in mac4lin. I had to waste
TWO PRECIOUS MINUTES ON ADDING THE LOGO
infra_red_dude
Dec 26, 2007 at 4:01 PM
MetalheadGautham said:
^^I still don't understand why anirudh forgot to put the apple logo in mac4lin.
I did not forget to include the Apple Logo. Mac4Lin upto version 0.3 use the Apple logo. However, it has been purposely removed in version 0.4 as it may cause some legal issues to crop up for using Apple logo. The screenshots and documentation of version 0.4 clearly mentions this.

MetalheadGautham said:
I had to waste
TWO PRECIOUS MINUTES ON ADDING THE LOGO
If you call these things as waste then you will never learn anything!!! Don't be an impatient kid. Haf some patience and learn to look around. You'll get everything :)
QwertyManiac
Dec 26, 2007 at 4:54 PM
For C++ GTK

*www.gtkmm.org/docs/gtkmm-2.4/docs/tutorial/html/index.html
MetalheadGautham
Dec 27, 2007 at 2:49 PM
@anirudh: are yaar I was sarcastic. and yes, there are possible legal issues assosiated with this, but won't the same happen even with the apple wallpapers and some icons that you borrowed from macintosh? Anyway, I don't think you need to worry about that stuff because you are an Indian, and India still doesn't have unfair laws like US. And I heard there is an Indian site similar to sourceforge. You might concider publishing there. Those cease and desist notices from US can't affect Indians till the Nuclear Deal is confirmed.
infra_red_dude
Dec 27, 2007 at 11:34 PM
^^^ Lolz... nuclear deal looks like a distant possibility now! :p
MetalheadGautham
Dec 28, 2007 at 12:12 AM
infra_red_dude said:
^^^ Lolz... nuclear deal looks like a distant possibility now! :p
hope it remains one. the concequences of one are too big to imagine.
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Hitboxx #37
Dec 28, 2007 at 12:31 AM
Wth?! where are you guys taking the topic? Gnome and Nuclear are waaaaaaaay apart :D

About theming.... wait I need to get that thing..brb
J
Dec 28, 2007 at 12:32 AM
hey gautham can you help me in networking