Amd gaming pc · DIGIT-ARC

Hi,

I am from DAE Colony,ECIL,Hyderabad.

1. What is the purpose of the computer? What all applications and games are you going to run? (Stupid answers like 'gaming' or 'office work' will not work. Be exact. Which games? Which applications? Avoid the word 'et cetera.')
Ans:Games like Crysis3,Farcry3,Hawx2,Dead Space3,Battlefield3,FIFA2012,Tomb Raider etc & Applications like Informatica 10.03,Oracle 10.0,Photoshop 8.0,Virtual Machines of Ubuntu,Centos and Unix Server.

2. What is your overall budget? If you can extend a bit for a more balanced configuration, then mention this too.
Ans:65k

3. Planning to overclock?
Ans:Yes & 600Mhz OC from the base clock of 4Ghz.

4. Which Operating System are you planning to use?
Ans:Windows 7 SP1 x64

5. How much hard drive space is needed?
Ans:240GB SSD only

6. Do you want to buy a monitor? If yes, please mention which screen size and resolution do you want. If you already have a monitor and want to reuse it, again mention the size and resolution of monitor you have.
Ans:No, already have one.

7. Which components you DON'T want to buy or which components you already have and plan on reusing?
Ans:Monitor,KB,Mouse & Speakers.

8. When are you planning to buy the system?
Ans:1 month later

9. Have you ever built a desktop before or will this be done by an assembler?
Ans:Have built 5 systems from 2000-2012 and will be done by an assembler

10. Where do you live? Are you buying locally? Are you open to buying stuff from online shops if you don't get locally?
Ans:Hyderabad and buying locally only.

11. Anything else which you would like to say?
Ans: I want a balanced machine which can handle both Games and Applications as well.

This is the configuration which I have in mind so far...

AMD FX 8350 -11400,
Asus M5A97 Evo R2.0 -7100,
Sapphire HD7850 2GB OC -13500,
Intel 335 240GB SSD -10500,
Seasonic X660 -7500,
Corsair Vengeance 8GB 1600MHz -3200,
Corsair H60 Cooler -3700,
Corsair 300R -3900,
CM 140mm 4 BLUE LED Fans -2200,
Asus 24B5ST DVDRW -1000.
TOTAL -64,000.

How much can I actually overclock safely on FX 8350 from the base clock of 4.0Ghz and are there any guides to help in overclocking and will OC'ing in any way void my PC warranty.

Welcome to TDF. First of all, edit your post for the sake of readability. See the template for how to do it.

Skud said:
Welcome to TDF. First of all, edit your post for the sake of readability. See the template for how to do it.

I actually posted it in the format specified here in the forum but even after several attempts to correct it I cannot make it to appear nicely in a readable format.

AMD FX 8350 - Rs 11500
Asus M5A97- Rs 6700
Gskill 8GB RAM F3-12800CL9D-4GBXL X 2 - Rs 3500
GPU - Sapphire HD 7950 OC - Rs 21500
HDD - Intel 335 240GB - Rs 10500 (Your Choice)
PSU - Corsair TX650V2UK - Rs 5300
Cabinet - Corsair 400R - Rs 4800
OPD - Samsung SH-S 223F - Rs 975

Total - Rs 64,475.

Overclocking wont Void teh warranty unless you overvolt and burn the VRM!

I made a slight change to the above configuration which is as follows because I want to CF 7850 in future which exceeds even 7970 also. AMD FX 8350 -11400, Asus M5A99FX Pro R2.0 -9900, Gigabyte 7850 OC 2GB -13500, Intel 335 240GB SSD -10500, Seasonic X660 -8100, Corsair Vengeance 8GB 2133MHz -4500, Corsair H60 Cooler -3700, CM Storm Enforcer -6300, CM 200mm RED LED fan -1100, Asus 24B5ST DVDRW -1000. TOTAL -70,000.

Also where can I get sensible pricing in CTC,Secunderabad.I mean which shop in CTC.

I think steamroller cpu is also based on AM3+ socket only which is why I chose this instead of Intel. :-D

Yes. But for dual GPU I would suggest Sli with two Nvidia GTX660.

Components Warranty

AMD FX 8350, 3years
Asus M5A97 Evo R2.0, 3years
Sapphire HD7850 2GB OC, 3years
Intel 335 240GB SSD, 3years
Seasonic X660, 5years
Corsair Vengeance 8GB 1600MHz, 10years
Corsair H60 Cooler, 5years
Corsair 300R, 2years
CM 140mm 4 BLUE LED fans, 1year
Asus 24B5ST DVDRW. 1year

This I am thinking to buy which comes to total 63k.

The Incinerator said:
Yes. But for dual GPU I would suggest Sli with two Nvidia GTX660.

Yes why Nvidia GTX660 and why not AMD ATI 7850 instead?

The Incinerator said:
AMD FX 8350 - Rs 11500
Asus M5A97- Rs 6700
Gskill 8GB RAM F3-12800CL9D-4GBXL X 2 - Rs 3500
GPU - Sapphire HD 7950 OC - Rs 21500
HDD - Intel 335 240GB - Rs 10500 (Your Choice)
PSU - Corsair TX650V2UK - Rs 5300
Cabinet - Corsair 400R - Rs 4800
OPD - Samsung SH-S 223F - Rs 975

Total - Rs 64,475.

Overclocking wont Void teh warranty unless you overvolt and burn the VRM!

I want a fully modular PSU and Cabinet which houses only 2 fans of any size.

AMD has IMO and Usage experience a lot of microstutter and driver issues when scaling with two cards. Nvidia is a lot better when scaling with dual cards and the driver support just cant be compared to anyone let alone ATi.

People will have their own opinions but these are mine.

Yes there are Micro Stuttering issues with CF but it can be solved with a little tweaking.

But GTX 660 performs better than HD 7850 in gaming and SLI of GTX 660 is a better solution than HD 7850 CF, in terms of raw performance, Dual Card Scaling and very less Micro Shuttering.

Cilus said:
But GTX 660 performs better than HD 7850 in gaming and SLI of GTX 660 is a better solution than HD 7850 CF, in terms of raw performance, Dual Card Scaling and very less Micro Shuttering.

Yes thats right. I was just stating a fact.

Instead of Seasonic X660, get Corsair HX750 @6K.
It will give your enough headroom for future expansion.

I would say try and stick to a powerful single card like the HD7970. In Kolkata you can get a good Sapphire one from Rs 28,500 onwards.

Skip the H60 cpu cooler. H80 and higher are worth taking.

The CM Evo can handle the OC level you have posted. Add another fan for push pull config.
If you want to OC higher, you will need something better than the evo.

d6bmg said:
Instead of Seasonic X660, get Corsair HX750 @6K.
It will give your enough headroom for future expansion.

Corsair HX750 is 9.5k and HX650 is 6k. Seasonic X660 gives an output of 850w which is great compared to Corsair HX650 which are at present giving lots of problems like coil whine,fan stuttering etc.Unless I go for a high end corsair like AX760i which is made by flextronics I cannot expect good value product from corsair anymore because corsair recently changed its suppliers from seasonic to odd ones.Usually seasonic provides corsair with PSU's from 650w range to 850w range but now that has changed.I saw few reviews in newegg.com about the change of suppliers.

Myth said:
Skip the H60 cpu cooler. H80 and higher are worth taking.

The CM Evo can handle the OC level you have posted. Add another fan for push pull config.
If you want to OC higher, you will need something better than the evo.

Corsair H60 is enough for a simple 600Mhz OC and also my budget does not allow for H80.

bssunil said:
Corsair HX750 is 9.5k and HX650 is 6k. Seasonic X660 gives an output of 850w which is great compared to Corsair HX650 which are at present giving lots of problems like coil whine,fan stuttering etc.Unless I go for a high end corsair like AX760i which is made by flextronics I cannot expect good value product from corsair anymore because corsair recently changed its suppliers from seasonic to odd ones.Usually seasonic provides corsair with PSU's from 650w range to 850w range but now that has changed.I saw few reviews in newegg.com about the change of suppliers.

I think d6bmg meant the hx650. Problems may crop up in any component. Advantage with corsair is the after sales service.
Wasnt aware of the change in psu supplier for Corsair. :idea:

bssunil said:
Corsair H60 is enough for a simple 600Mhz OC and also my budget does not allow for H80.

What I meant is that if you want to go for liquid coolers, try from h80 onwards.

In your case here, why spend 3.7k for a h60 when the same job can be done by an Cooler master Evo at 2.2k.

Myth said:
Advantage with corsair is the after sales service.

+1 for Corsair RMA

AMD FX 8350 -11400,
Asus M5A97 Evo R2.0 -7100,
Sapphire HD7850 2GB OC -13500,
Intel 335 240GB SSD -10500,
Seasonic X660 -7500,
Corsair Vengeance 8GB 1600MHz -3200,
Corsair H60 Cooler -3700,
Corsair 300R -3900,
CM 140mm 4 BLUE LED fans -2200,
Asus 24B5ST DVDRW -1000.
TOTAL -64,000.

Here's to my config.

Great rig, but i would maintain for a 600Mhz overclock better stick to a good air cooler and a great TIM.

The Incinerator said:
Great rig, but i would maintain for a 600Mhz overclock better stick to a good air cooler and a great TIM.

Thanks Mate.By the way which TIM should I buy and where.

Of the ones easily available in India..........Cooler Master Thermal Fusion and Arctic Silver 5.

The Incinerator said:
Of the ones easily available in India..........Cooler Master Thermal Fusion and Arctic Silver 5.

Can you give me a link of any online site for TIM's

Lately I was thinking about buying an XBOX 4GB + 40" Samsung LED TV instead of a Gaming PC.I actually cannot decide which one to go for.All the game titles are coming to XBOX also right.Please help me decide in buying either one.As on today my PC config stands as follows:

AMD FX 8350 -11400,
Asus M5A97 Evo R2.0 -7100,
Sapphire HD7850 2GB OC -13500,
Intel 335 240GB SSD -10500,
Seasonic X660 -7500,
Corsair Vengeance 8GB 1600MHz -3200,
Corsair H60 Cooler -3700,
Corsair 300R -3900,
CM 140mm 4 BLUE LED fans -2200,
Asus 24B5ST DVDRW -1000.
TOTAL -64,000.

Applications like Informatica 9.03,Oracle,Virtual Machines of Ubuntu,Centos and Unix Server.

you decide......what you need.....pc imo...multipurpose = games,software,work,movies...........your money your wish....

Take a 7870 atleast with a 60k config.

R

Myth said:
Take a 7870 atleast with a 60k config.

Cant agree more..
Infact, I would say cut down the SSD to a 120GB (You can still add onto this later), buy an HDD for the dump (I bet your 240 GB will look like a minion in a month or two), Drop off H60 and buy CM Evo (which saves you some money) and invest on 7870 compared to 7850.

drop the ssd or get a 120GB one. CM Evo

this will add to get a 7870 GHz edition card

You said

bssunil said:
1. What is the purpose of the computer? What all applications and games are you going to run? (Stupid answers like 'gaming' or 'office work' will not work. Be exact. Which games? Which applications? Avoid the word 'et cetera.')
Ans:Games like Crysis3,Farcry3,Hawx2,Dead Space3,Battlefield3,FIFA2012,Tomb Raider etc & Applications like Informatica 10.03,Oracle 10.0,Photoshop 8.0,Virtual Machines of Ubuntu,Centos and Unix Server.

& saying

bssunil said:
Lately I was thinking about buying an XBOX 4GB + 40" Samsung LED TV instead of a Gaming PC.

avinandan012 said:
drop the ssd or get a 120GB one. CM Evo

this will add to get a 7870 GHz edition card

You said
Quote Originally Posted by bssunil

1. What is the purpose of the computer? What all applications and games are you going to run? (Stupid answers like 'gaming' or 'office work' will not work. Be exact. Which games? Which applications? Avoid the word 'et cetera.')
Ans:Games like Crysis3,Farcry3,Hawx2,Dead Space3,Battlefield3,FIFA2012,Tomb Raider etc & Applications like Informatica 10.03,Oracle 10.0,Photoshop 8.0,Virtual Machines of Ubuntu,Centos and Unix Server.

& saying
Quote Originally Posted by bssunil

Lately I was thinking about buying an XBOX 4GB + 40" Samsung LED TV instead of a Gaming PC.

I just heard that my favorite game series like Halo,Gears of war,Tomb Raider were released for XBOX way before than a PC release and some are not even released for PC.How can I play such series(Halo&Gears of War) on a PC.

If Sapphire HD7870 comes for 15.5k then I will surely buy it rather a HD7850.

you want to play crysis 3 with 7850 or 7870...here's crysis 3 benchmark

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bssunil said:
I made a slight change to the above configuration which is as follows because I want to CF 7850 in future which exceeds even 7970 also. AMD FX 8350 -11400, Asus M5A99FX Pro R2.0 -9900, Gigabyte 7850 OC 2GB -13500, Intel 335 240GB SSD -10500, Seasonic X660 -8100, Corsair Vengeance 8GB 2133MHz -4500, Corsair H60 Cooler -3700, CM Storm Enforcer -6300, CM 200mm RED LED fan -1100, Asus 24B5ST DVDRW -1000. TOTAL -70,000.

7850 crossfire doesn't beat a 7970 oced............i think you meant a 7870 crossfire..............and one single card is anyday better than crossfire...main reason being with one single card you still got space for oc and then crossfire.......with a crossfire its actually the limit

Godoftheforbiddenlight said:
7850 crossfire doesn't beat a 7970 oced............i think you meant a 7870 crossfire..............and one single card is anyday better than crossfire...main reason being with one single card you still got space for oc and then crossfire.......with a crossfire its actually the limit

I actually thought of buying 990 series chipset which supports CS or SLI but when everybody said single card is always best so I thought of taking 970 series MB.Now even if I take HD7850 or 7870 when 8000 series GPU's release many will automatically upgrade and also the same chipset is being used even for STEAMROLLER CPU's as well so there is no need to change the MB unless PCI-E 3.0 comes into picture for AMD MB's by then(by 2014). So this is a continuous cycle for up-gradation for newer components as and when new ones replace old ones.Until then we(I) have to wait.

bssunil said:
I actually thought of buying 990 series chipset which supports CS or SLI but when everybody said single card is always best so I thought of taking 970 series MB.Now even if I take HD7850 or 7870 when 8000 series GPU's release many will automatically upgrade and also the same chipset is being used even for STEAMROLLER CPU's as well so there is no need to change the MB unless PCI-E 3.0 comes into picture for AMD MB's by then(by 2014). So this is a continuous cycle for up-gradation for newer components as and when new ones replace old ones.Until then we(I) have to wait.

i would seriously recommend not to buy the ssd in this budget instead go for a powerful gpu...trust me on this you won't notice any difference while copying stuff

Godoftheforbiddenlight said:
i would seriously recommend not to buy the ssd in this budget instead go for a powerful gpu...trust me on this you won't notice any difference while copying stuff

also look for the h80i or simple go for air cooling solutions for your kind of ocing liquid cooling is not at all required.......plus get the 400r or if you choose air cooling then gt the HAF

Godoftheforbiddenlight said:
i would seriously recommend not to buy the ssd in this budget instead go for a powerful gpu...trust me on this you won't notice any difference while copying stuff

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Benchmarks

Sequential read performance
AS SSD: Megabytes per second: Bigger is better
INTEL SSD 335 240GB: 484
INTEL SSD 330 180GB: 470
OCZ VERTEX 4 256GB: 435

Sequential write performance
AS SSD: Megabytes per second: Bigger is better
INTEL SSD 335 240GB: 313
INTEL SSD 330 180GB: 197
OCZ VERTEX 4 256GB: 477

4K random read performance
AS SSD: Megabytes per second: Bigger is better
INTEL SSD 335 240GB: 19
INTEL SSD 330 180GB: 19
OCZ VERTEX 4 256GB: 25

4K random write performance
AS SSD: Megabytes per second: Bigger is better
INTEL SSD 335 240GB: 56
INTEL SSD 330 180GB: 60
OCZ VERTEX 4 256GB: 57

also look for the h80i or simple go for air cooling solutions for your kind of ocing liquid cooling is not at all required.......plus get the 400r or if you choose air cooling then gt the HAF

I think Corsair 300R is more than enough as a cabinet and Corsair H60 is enough for a mild 600-800MHz OC.
Please see the difference in read and write speeds of Intel 335 240GB SSD.