Android or Windows · DIGIT-ARC

I am now searching for a new smart phone

I have seen Windows Phone, Seems better to me than a symbian phone

however touch screen alone is just not enough and cant live with that

Now there is Android in market, but I think its still in early stage

though it has got better applications than windows phone, I still need to know

which is better, Apple OS is good, but I still think between Android and

Windows as I need buttons rathers than fully Touch screen phone

Plzz suggest some good phone, budget 20Ks

Android has passed that 'early stage'.

what is your exact maximum budget.

HTC Legend : 22.5k
Moto milestone: 27k
Samsung Galaxy S : 28k
HTC Desire : 25k (unofficial channels)
HTC HD2 : 29k-30k

Want to get now go for Android(Samsung Galaxy S is just amazing). If you can wait, keep track of upcoming Windows Phone 7 series, they indeed look promising.

Some wat 20, 22, max 23

I think every new technology takes atleast 2-3 years to mature. I am no expert to make such comment but look at the iPhone for example which was first launched in Jan 2007. If you look back at that model and compare it with the latest iPhone 4 you will see that the technology behind it grew itself to bring the handset at par with other devices. No doubt it fares better in some departments but it is very hard to believe that it did not have multi-tasking in previous versions which is the very basic feature in every other smartphone...

I do not have no experience of Android based mobiles because no one in my circle has one...but see how quickly the updated versions of this OS were released:

1.1 9th Feb 2009
1.5 Cupcake 30th April 2009
1.6 Donut 15 Sep 2009
2.0-2.1 Eclair 26 Oct 2009
2.2 Froyo 20 May 2010
3.0 Gingerbread Sometime in Q4 of 2010

This shows that this OS has yet to reach a maturity level IMVHO. Symbian and Windows on the other hand have been in the market for years and have achieved stability/maturity over this period.

Dude comparing Android to Windows is an insult to Android platform!

Since you want buttons and your budget is around 20k I'd suggest go for an E series Nokia phone. However If you are willing to spare some more cash you would like to get a Motorola Milestone for which comes with a slide out keyboard. You should get it now for 23k-24k.

Oh & BTW before someone recommends you a SonyEricsson phone I would like to point out that its an expensive phone which runs on an older version of android.

amitabhishek said:
Dude comparing Android to Windows is an insult to Android platform!

Sir, please do not take it personally

I agree that Windows OS on handhelds suck bigtime.

amitabhishek said:
Oh & BTW before someone recommends you a SonyEricsson phone I would like to point out that its an expensive phone which runs on an older version of android.

+1 totally completely

prateek007391 said:
Some wat 20, 22, max 23

just go and get HTC Legend. You will forget the need of buttons etc. And it's optical trackball does helluva job.

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amitabhishek said:
Oh & BTW before someone recommends you a SonyEricsson phone I would like to point out that its an expensive phone which runs on an older version of android.

Totally agree on this one

amitabhishek said:
Oh & BTW before someone recommends you a SonyEricsson phone I would like to point out that its an expensive phone which runs on an older version of android.

lol. A SE recommendation is yet to come.

gagan007 said:
This shows that this OS has yet to reach a maturity level IMVHO.

Android in its 2.1 avatar is already quite a mature OS. And 2.2 is taking it further. I'm sure 3 will blow us away.

gagan007 said:
Symbian and Windows on the other hand have been in the market for years and have achieved stability/maturity over this period.

They are matured and outdated too.

@prateek007391
I would also suggest an Eseries(if u can't live with out buttons) or Milestone.

1st SE recommendation :mrgreen:

SE Vivaz better then E series & milestone in terms on multimedia features and Camera is damn good....Runs on Symbian S60v5 and have lots of useful application..

If u r not in love with android then u would like SE Vivaz
If u want hardware keyboard then check Vivaz pro

Windows mobile 6.5 is outdated wait for Windows mobile 7 OS..

BTW if u can keep all these matured OS talk aside I recommend a look and Samsung Wave...Amazing device...I just loved it

With all the hoopla oer my recommendation.. i rather comply by adding the Xperia X10 to the list. And dont worry, people here who are shouting that it runs on a lower version of Android have no idea about the differences between the either of the two.
If you ask me, the differences with SEs UI is minimal.
Dont even think about the SGS ATM!! It is laggy as hell and has a host of problems.
WM is a platform if you use Microsoft Exchange a lot. No one beats Wm in that matter.

For 20k, sorry dude, you are in no mans land. Either extend your budget and get the flagship androids for 25k+ or get a symbian phone. Coz in your range there are no WM phones/ Android phones that really strike the fancy.
The legend is a nice option though.

dreamcatcher said:
Dont even think about the SGS ATM!! It is laggy as hell and has a host of problems.

you don't get it do you? People are getting nauseated by your posts and tweets!

Telling you for the Nth time. STOP IT!!!
About GS:
my friend is using this phone
kalpik is using it
sunny is using it.

none is facing the lag and so call host of problems. You dont' even own one. nobody buying X10 just doesn't mean that other phones have issues.

GET OVER IT!

@OP, like we all said, the last thing you need to do is take suggestion from this SE fanboy!

just ignore this post and the post I was referring to and make your decision.

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sujoyp said:
1st SE recommendation

SE Vivaz better then E series & milestone in terms on multimedia features and Camera is damn good....Runs on Symbian S60v5 and have lots of useful application..

If u r not in love with android then u would like SE Vivaz
If u want hardware keyboard then check Vivaz pro

Windows mobile 6.5 is outdated wait for Windows mobile 7 OS..

BTW if u can keep all these matured OS talk aside I recommend a look and Samsung Wave...Amazing device...I just loved it

actually, Milestone is still selling at 27k price point. If OS doesn't matter, then Samsung Wave is a very capable device.

Only two winmo devices that are worth getting are HTC HD2 and Samsung Omnia PRO.

What about collaboration support?

Which is better.

Android still my likeness, but will it be able to support .docx and .xls files I need to use every now and then

@desiibond- Can you STFU with your rantings about the X10? You havent even held an X10 and are blabbering away to glory. Go get yourself a linguist and practice some proper language lessons an how to conduct yourself in a gentlemanly way in a public forum and come back accordingly. Enough of your stupid rants.
And yea, i have used the GS. I can bring it home anytime and play with it. And it IS laggy. As i get time from bosch i will upload a video and show you how laggy the thing is, especially when the internal SD is filled with media files. And you, please stop your "dont even own one" policy. How many phones have you even touched?

Anyways, there arent any office file exditors for Android yet. You have to movie to Symbian or Wm to use them. If there are any, they are for the paid market which isnt available in india. The best way to view files is officesuite which comes preinstalled with a few phones.And yea, it supports all formats. AS per my information, HTC and SE support MS Exchange.

prateek007391 said:
What about collaboration support?

Which is better.

Android still my likeness, but will it be able to support .docx and .xls files I need to use every now and then

There are apps like Documents To Go and QuickOffice that can open files created in MS Office. But you need to buy the full version to edit the files. I think they cost around 30$.

But they doesn't even come close to pocketoffice, especially on HD2.

PS: if you are looking for a purely business class phone and given than your budget is 20k, my suggesiton would be B7610 Omnia PRO. one heck of a phone this is.

Hey desibond y not Vivaz pro...
its also good overall
1)we can even install document editor in symbian...
2)Vivaz pro have graphic accelerator and
3)720p video recording.

its one of the fastest symbian with 720mhz procc...and symbian is faster then wm 6.5

i really feel its worth consideration at 23k :razz:

HTC Wildfire will be released in India this week. Wait for it. Costs between 14 and 17k. An excellent phone.

dreamcatcher said:
And yea, i have used the GS. I can bring it home anytime and play with it. And it IS laggy. As i get time from bosch i will upload a video and show you how laggy the thing is, especially when the internal SD is filled with media files.

I would also love to see a side by side comparo video of your X10, GS, X10 mini and etc..etc...
Pls Do it ASAP.

Android still my likeness, but will it be able to support .docx and .xls files I need to use every now and then

Galaxy S has office, Which can also edit your documents.

vulpine said:
I would also love to see a side by side comparo video of your X10, GS, X10 mini and etc..etc...
Pls Do it ASAP.

Galaxy S has office, Which can also edit your documents.

it takes 15 minutes to make any phone (with multtasking) lag like hell

Rite, because of lags I dont like media files in Phone, I need a pure business phone, I dont listen to music much.

What about blackberry phones? are they symbian or not.

Bro too much media files like filling up 8 gb songs and video will definitely make phones lag...fill up less and u will be happy :mrgreen:

But u need a pure business phone then U can take a look at E72 or E71 they r very good..

Blackberry have their own OS...but blackberrys r locked with service providers

I already used E71, they are good, but now I need a change.

I usually use BSNL, can I have blackberry with it.

BSNL is providing Blackberry services...do check out:

.:: BSNL ~ Home ::.

Slightly increase your budget and buy Legend,if you want to try winmo get hd2,it is definitely overpriced but probably the only winmo device with least issues.

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amitabhishek said:
Dude comparing Android to Windows is an insult to Android platform!

remember the days of BSOD, heck in olympics they had a BSOD in the opening ceremony. this is mobile. what will it be for WinMO?
WMSOD (Windows Mobile Screen Of Death)...
i need a landline. even if i give support for windows more than Linux or BSD or *nix? i still preffer FOSS for development.
kino is a failure. some organizations never learn to make their product stable then secure it. duh!

duh said:
remember the days of BSOD, heck in olympics they had a BSOD in the opening ceremony. this is mobile. what will it be for WinMO?
WMSOD (Windows Mobile Screen Of Death)...
i need a landline. even if i give support for windows more than Linux or BSD or *nix? i still preffer FOSS for development.
kino is a failure. some organizations never learn to make their product stable then secure it. duh!

duh, cool down! You are doing the exact same thing that previous FOSS fans did on this forum. nauseate everyone with ridiculous posts. You want to suggest, suggest a phone and give some sane reasons. Plain and simple!

dreamcatcher said:
Dont even think about the SGS ATM!! It is laggy as hell

LOL! And I have heard SOOOOOO many horror stories about how laggy the X10 is :-?

dreamcatcher said:
and has a host of problems.

Yea.. That's why Samsung is selling the phone in millions :neutral:

To all: Stop feeding the troll (oops, i think i just did

)

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desiibond said:
duh, cool down! You are doing the exact same thing that previous FOSS fans did on this forum. nauseate everyone with ridiculous posts. You want to suggest, suggest a phone and give some sane reasons. Plain and simple!

have you heard of open moko? if you havent then google up, STFG, looks like you are here to show off your super skills. thanks i will buy it later, but before i buy your rant i will browse others and see if i would like to buy theirs over you.
thank you very much.
and number two if you do a little STFG google up for open celephone.
TuxPhone - TuxPhone
and now cut your crap monsieur, this is how the free firmware of all the latest open source be it open moko or maemo or meego or andriod arrived. so sir before you show me again your ANTI-FOSS, cut the crap and go to loo and get your pants all creamy. i am not here to bow down to you.
and my point here? i want to customise my phone the way i want, if i had to go for andriod or other? why will i scream for a open hardware phone? huh, well i am mad so teh bond the one who is licenced to rant may rant with his rant girl. i am not his girl friend so sorry. keep it to yourself.
thanks but no thanks.
and then again, i want these hardware? because i dont want this nagging restriction that nagging restriction. i want to live my cell phone life freely, like how i am planning to replace the insyde bios (EFI) with coreboot. if you dont like freedom? your choice. but dont strangle other's neck and stuff your ideas on.
keep your bond attitude tucked in your pocket, if i see it i will just give a big duh. thanks.
this is a free world forum, and here i (HOPE) i have my freedom of speech and the liberty to express my thoughts like others, so please dont suffocate with your ideas.
and suggesting phones? its biols down to whats the budget and whats the like, i can recommend and not suggest, i am not one to suggest and forcelly suggest. you like andriod good for you. i dont. i want a proper arm with linux so i can apply grsec on arm and i can do what i want.
still got a problem, go rant, and i care no damn about you either.

well, duh...like I said on the other thread, sometimes you tend to deviate from the topic. Consider this as a warning this time.

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desiibond said:
duh, cool down! You are doing the exact same thing that previous FOSS fans did on this forum. nauseate everyone with ridiculous posts. You want to suggest, suggest a phone and give some sane reasons. Plain and simple!

ico said:
well, duh...like I said on the other thread, sometimes you tend to deviate from the topic. Consider this as a warning this time.

aite, i chew the chill pill. and besides its 11:28 pm, time to hit sack. night.

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For 20K HTC legend

I check out Blackberry, But they are locked with some Plans, cant change my Phone number rite now, I have got a big contact list.

Now, Another thing that is moving in my mind, How much integration I can get in Windows with a windows mobile

like remote desktop, I got wifi in office, so some thing atleast remote screening is required some times