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Apple offers to pay Google $1 per device

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pratyush997
pratyush997 Original post #1
Nov 18, 2012 at 3:53 PM
The patent wars continue to wage on all around the world. It’s been a little while since Samsung and Apple had their day in court, and while that skirmish is far from over it is now time for Motorola and Apple to enter the courtroom.

Motorola feels that Apple is infringing on several FRAND patents that have to do with how every smartphone in existence connects to WiFi and cellular networks. Since Apple makes smartphones, and Google is looking to use their newly acquired Motorola as a weapon, the two companies are only a few days away from the courtroom. Apple has placed an offer in a filing to the US District Court of $1 per device moving forward, and I have a hard time believing Google/Motorola will accept.

Motorola’s original request in their filing to the courts was for $2.25 per device. Aside from the actual dollar amount, Motorola is interested in licensing based on all Apple devices that infringe on these patents, not just the devices that are released after the court order. Given the popularity of Apple’s mobile devices, even at $1 per device that number is staggering. Apple’s reasoning for offering a dollar seems to stem from the deals they have with other organizations. In the filing, Apple notes that Motorola’s asking price is “orders of magnitude more” than Apple pays for other patent portfolios it requires to meet certain standards.

It seems like the core of the argument to come is entirely based on how much money Apple should be giving Motorola for these patents, and at what point Apple should be responsible for paying. Motorola has an opportunity here to allow the court to order Apple to pay $1 per device moving forward and be done with the case entirely. If Motorola pursues the case and the court issues a per device rate that is higher than Apple’s offer, Apple promises to pursue all possible appeals to avoid paying more than $1. Motorola could end this quickly, or watch as Apple drags this out for what could be years.

It’s unclear how the Google-controlled Motorola plans to address this, but it seems unlikely they would accept an offer that is less than half of what was initially demanded. Next week, when the two companies meet in court in Wisconsin, Motorola will demonstrate that their patents are essential to the functionality of Apple’s devices. Apple’s offer makes it clear they accept Motorola’s patents are valid, so now it’s just a squabble over their value.
Apple offers to pay Google $1 per device
gameranand
Nov 18, 2012 at 5:18 PM
I vote for Google. Take $2.35 per device and make Apple realize that they are not the only one with patents.:twisted:
Anorion
Anorion #3
Nov 18, 2012 at 5:44 PM
Hey how come google is not greedy now? Or not a patent troll? The patent office is messing it up for everyone, but Whatever, carry on being polarised for no reason
Flash
Flash #4
Nov 18, 2012 at 5:55 PM
Its Party time!!

"A Dollar a day to Google, keeps the Apple away"
pratyush997
Nov 18, 2012 at 5:57 PM
Hey how come google is not greedy now? Or not a patent troll? The patent office is messing it up for everyone, but Whatever, carry on being polarised for no reason
Troll Guyz.. Now a days.. Sueing others is trend... Apple Trolled
gameranand
Nov 18, 2012 at 7:55 PM
Hey how come google is not greedy now? Or not a patent troll? The patent office is messing it up for everyone, but Whatever, carry on being polarised for no reason

Apple can patent a shape but Google can't get money for genuine reason ??
Anorion
Anorion #7
Nov 18, 2012 at 8:29 PM
How come only google's reasons are genuine and apple's reasons are troll? Haters gonna hate...
Desmond
Desmond #8
Nov 18, 2012 at 8:40 PM
Well, for one, Apple started this mess and therefore needs to be whipped on the arse like a naughty boy.
josin
josin #9
Nov 18, 2012 at 8:49 PM
if the news is true then Google can go against Windows too. Anyway now it seems that we can call some one else( read as apple :-D) as COPY CAT apart from sammy.
Desmond
Desmond #10
Nov 18, 2012 at 8:53 PM
if the news is true then Google can go against Windows too. Anyway now it seems that we can call some one else( read as apple :-D) as COPY CAT apart from sammy.

Apple did not copy. It used a patented technology (in this case) without paying licensing to Motorola.
Anorion
Anorion #11
Nov 18, 2012 at 9:14 PM
Nokia. Nokia started this mess by suing apple first.

Also, part of the patent wars was in acuiring or buying out patents. No one is pointing out that google bought these patents and did not develop them, a point repeatedly raised agains apple.
Droid users are already paying microsoft heavily, in a similar arrangement to the one above. RIM, MS, Ericcsson, Apple and others outbid google for the nortel patents, only then google thought it was a good idea to pick up motorola. Not for the brand that saved the matrix and jurassic park... But for their patents. Not an evil, troll, greedy move? Not really, but it would have been called that if apple picked up the company for the same reasons.
MetalheadGautham
Nov 18, 2012 at 9:20 PM
I understand apple wants a lot more than just 1$ per device from other manufacturers who infringe on its so-called patents (most of which deal with visual elements that shouldn't be allowed to be patentable in the first place). Hence I feel google should pursue for much more than just 1$.
Flash
Flash #13
Nov 18, 2012 at 9:39 PM
Apple - Press Info - Apple Reports Fourth Quarter Results

Q4-12 earnings says it sold "26.9 Million iPhones". Let's assume it is gonna sell atleast 25 Million iPhones in Q1-13. That means, 25 Million $ is a profit for Google just from Apple.

Just note that this is only for iPhones. If we add, iPads,iPod touch - that will be a staggering amount to Google.
pratyush997
Nov 18, 2012 at 9:54 PM
and if per device then ..Whooping 56 mil $
techno
techno #15
Nov 19, 2012 at 9:37 AM
party....
pranav0091
Nov 19, 2012 at 9:54 AM
Apple brought this upon themselves. They thoroughly deserve this. If HTC has to pay something like ~$10 per device to Apple for rather lame-ass patents, then why not Apple pay $1 to google for some proper technical patents. Using a patent without permission is not different from copying. In fact this is intellectual theft.

We are talking about something related to how the phones work, not about rectangles with rounded edges.
Hrishi
Hrishi #17
Nov 19, 2012 at 10:21 AM
they need to hire more lawyers and lesser developers.... patent thing has turned into an ugly. buisness.
Skud
Skud #18
Nov 19, 2012 at 10:31 AM
I understand apple wants a lot more than just 1$ per device from other manufacturers who infringe on its so-called patents (most of which deal with visual elements that shouldn't be allowed to be patentable in the first place). Hence I feel google should pursue for much more than just 1$.


This. Rectangle with rounded corners is not technology. Think about Intel forcing AMD to make CPUs circular or something like that.
Hrishi
Hrishi #19
Nov 19, 2012 at 1:19 PM
This. Rectangle with rounded corners is not technology. Think about Intel forcing AMD to make CPUs circular or something like that.

I would prefer a triangular design instead of circle. ::p
mohityadavx
Nov 19, 2012 at 2:23 PM
Dont give a damn about who sues whom being a law student IPR has just become even more lucrative :twisted:
Skud
Skud #21
Nov 19, 2012 at 3:06 PM
Yeah, also don't give a damn on what ground they are suing. The more vague the logic, the more lucrative it is.
Anorion
Anorion #22
Nov 19, 2012 at 4:42 PM
This is like fulliautomatix haggling with unhygienix over the price of a rotting fish and then the entire village ends up fighting
harshatiyya
Nov 23, 2012 at 11:02 AM
this is simple.. trolling a troller(apple) doesnt considered as trolling. . ppl here hate apple cuz its greedy and wants to run a monopoly without healthy competition,, well this is only my view.