B550 / B450 motherboard

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Config:
Amd ryzen 5 3400g
Asrock b450 pro 4
ADATA XPG Gammix 8GB X 2
256gb Mx500
500gb bx500
2tb wd blue
4tb wd blue
Corsair cx450
Corsair carbide spic delta

from the beginning of this month, sometimes it switches on and sometimes it doesn't (for many days). i noticed one thing - when it starts after this dead episode, it shows an incorrect time. cmos battery is new, installed just a month back. day before yesterday (after a 10days dead episode), it was disassembled, new thermal paste applied and reassembled. it worked that day. when i tried yesterday evening, it didn't start. today after left power on for some 1 hour, it started and showed the time 00.44. as usual, i tried to sync the time but it says sync failed which worked just day before yesterday when it worked after reassembly and showed a time 10 days before. Internet is working. i felt it on for some time and it synced the time.
now i am sure it is motherboard issue. What is a good option in B550 or B450?
Thanks

Confirm that it's your motherboard before buying. You don't want to find it later that it's not motherboard or not just motherboard. Officially B550 doesn't support 3400G but despite that many B550 is compatible with 3400G, confirm with the seller before buying. Else you gotta stick with B450. I generally prefer a board with 4 RAM slots and heatsinks on the VRMs. Gigabyte DS3H and MSI PRO VDH, both fits this criteria (both B450 and 550).

nac said:
Confirm that it's your motherboard before buying. You don't want to find it later that it's not motherboard or not just motherboard. Officially B550 doesn't support 3400G but despite that many B550 is compatible with 3400G, confirm with the seller before buying. Else you gotta stick with B450. I generally prefer a board with 4 RAM slots and heatsinks on the VRMs. Gigabyte DS3H and MSI PRO VDH, both fits this criteria (both B450 and 550).

thanks. i will visit local market on monday to check if they have a board to spare for a day or two. problem is that everyone says how to identify any issue when it is working. it started after an hour in the morning and worked fine for around 1 1/2 hours. i went out, came back at 5pm and it refused to switch on. i left the ups on and it started at around 7.10pm and works fine. anyone who sees this says the same thing. day before yesterday it worked for over 4-5 hours without any issue.
another issue i noticed since day before yesterday that when i am working on facebook, if a click on any image to open it, it shows a black rectangle sort which flickers for a second and then shows the image.
worst part is that when i called up compuworld, the official service centre for asrock motherboard, the lady said they don't deal in computer. i sent an email to asrock over 10 days ago but they have not responded till now. i fail to understand why people suggest such a company where there is no after sales support. may be this is the reason that everyone here sells gigabyte and msi boards only.

Yours is a good board, feature rich, VRM thermal test was very good for the price, so it's obvious that it was suggested among other models. It was one of the top in my list, after I couldn't source B350M D3H, I really wanted to get that one when I was buying back in 2018. I think it was out of stock and/or I had to pay some more for it than PRO VDH.

nac said:
Yours is a good board, feature rich, VRM thermal test was very good for the price, so it's obvious that it was suggested among other models. It was one of the top in my list, after I couldn't source B350M D3H, I really wanted to get that one when I was buying back in 2018. I think it was out of stock and/or I had to pay some more for it than PRO VDH.

features are ok but we all need to understand that it is an electronic item and might require after sales support which if is absent or bad renders your item useless and you a frustrated person. just have a look at their auto response in which they want the customer to discuss it with the dealer mainly / only.

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I guess in many places customer service is like that. Even when the an actual person is replying, all we get is a template reply. Whatever the complaint, just the same response which irritates us a lot.

i agree. i remember over 20 years back, my old dealer got a seagate hdd replaced in 2 hours. recent adata xpg gammix experience is excellent.

i was told by a dealer that asrock's after sales service is terrible-since then i have steered clear of asrock motherboards.

quicky008 said:
i was told by a dealer that asrock's after sales service is terrible-since then i have steered clear of asrock motherboards.

i asked 2 dealers, one suggested msi and the other gigabyte. according to them at present their service is ok so if required, i will get either of them.

a moderator in asrock forum says "if no cpu is there, the motherboard will power up but system will not start" which is similar to my condition so according to him, it is the cpu that could be the reason.
since i am unable to find time to talk to some local person to check with a spare cpu, it is sometimes on and sometimes not.

vidhubhushan said:
a moderator in asrock forum says "if no cpu is there, the motherboard will power up but system will not start" which is similar to my condition so according to him, it is the cpu that could be the reason.
since i am unable to find time to talk to some local person to check with a spare cpu, it is sometimes on and sometimes not.

Kind of facing similar situation with a MSI A520M motherboard. Every time I try to power on cpu ez debug led lights up so my guess it's the motherboard which is unable to initialize the processor. Processor usually just don't fail .. they will give signs like stuttering, BSODs and unexpected restart. Only motherboards can behave more erratically like the issues you have faced. The bios could not retain it's date and time is the indication motherboard is causing the issue.

i have observed that the failure rate of MSI/asrock boards are somewhat higher than other brands like gigabyte. I used to own 2 msi mobos at one point(one for a basic pentium 3 pc,another DG31 board for a c2d setup)-both failed within 3-4 years of usage.

topgear said:
Kind of facing similar situation with a MSI A520M motherboard. Every time I try to power on cpu ez debug led lights up so my guess it's the motherboard which is unable to initialize the processor. Processor usually just don't fail .. they will give signs like stuttering, BSODs and unexpected restart. Only motherboards can behave more erratically like the issues you have faced. The bios could not retain it's date and time is the indication motherboard is causing the issue.

now it starts with much lesser delay, sometimes immmediately. few times it showed correct time but now it again shows incorrect time even when it starts immediately like today. i don't have time to visit asrock service centre so i am using it till it creates some big issue again. i am thinking of getting a 8500G with B650M to replace it in the same cabinet.

quicky008 said:
i have observed that the failure rate of MSI/asrock boards are somewhat higher than other brands like gigabyte. I used to own 2 msi mobos at one point(one for a basic pentium 3 pc,another DG31 board for a c2d setup)-both failed within 3-4 years of usage.

well i have myself used a pentium 4 on a gigabyte board for some 12 years without any issue and it was given to me by someone (oow)

Well,I have got MSI B450M-A Pro MaxII Motherboard.
With AMD Ryzen 5 5500GT CPU.

Purchased yesterday,shall be receiving on upcoming Friday/Saturday.
Or collect personally from Computer Store (VEDANT COMPUTERS) at Kolkata.

Any idea about this combination?

@topgear and @quicky008 ,any idea about this combination?
Also I do have an archaic Radeon RX550 GT GPU.
With this setup,can a Corsair VS450 SMPS handle the configuration?
Which I also do have.

I am not a GAMER.

Corsair Vs 450 is quite old-i don't think it would be a good idea to power this setup with this old PSU. You should get a new 450W/550W unit from CM/Corsair for this new build.

I had a VS 450 Grey label which died a few months back-replaced it with Cooler master MWE 450 v2-it can handle a 1660 gpu on an older 4th gen i5 build.

Took the AntEsports VS700L-700W Power Supply.
Also Purchased ASRock AMD Radeon RX6500XT GPU.

Always an AMD Fanboy.

Nah! Cancelled the Ant Esports VS700L-700W PSU.
Instead taking, Cooler Master MWE Bronze 650 V3 230V 80 Plus Bronze 650 Watt ATX 3.1 Power Supply.

@whitestar_999 ,Friend what is your take on this?

kg11sgbg said:
Took the AntEsports VS700L-700W Power Supply.
Also Purchased ASRock AMD Radeon RX6500XT GPU.

Always an AMD Fanboy.

its a branded "generic" psu which could have malfunctioned at any time. I doubt it can even provide a stable 500w output,let alone 700w

quicky008 said:
its a branded "generic" psu which could have malfunctioned at any time. I doubt it can even provide a stable 500w output,let alone 700w

Did you go through my upper post No#19?
In that case?

kg11sgbg said:
Nah! Cancelled the Ant Esports VS700L-700W PSU.
Instead taking, Cooler Master MWE Bronze 650 V3 230V 80 Plus Bronze 650 Watt ATX 3.1 Power Supply.

@whitestar_999 ,Friend what is your take on this?

CM MWE is definitely better suited to your setup than the Vs 700L. Why did you buy the RX 6500xt and for how much?

quicky008 said:
CM MWE is definitely better suited to your setup than the Vs 700L. Why did you buy the RX 6500xt and for how much?

RX 6500XT costed me, Rs.12499.00
Bought an AMD Radeon GPU which was the lowest Radeon card in Amazon,leaving aside RX550.

kg11sgbg said:
RX 6500XT costed me, Rs.12499.00
Bought an AMD Radeon GPU which was the lowest Radeon card in Amazon,leaving aside RX550.

Sorry for the late reply .. B450 + 5500GT is a Ok combo.

topgear said:
Kind of facing similar situation with a MSI A520M motherboard. Every time I try to power on cpu ez debug led lights up so my guess it's the motherboard which is unable to initialize the processor. Processor usually just don't fail .. they will give signs like stuttering, BSODs and unexpected restart. Only motherboards can behave more erratically like the issues you have faced. The bios could not retain it's date and time is the indication motherboard is causing the issue.

it now starts immediately and shows correct time. except that facebook delay issue, it shows normal behaviour. iirc on 13th, i have upgraded to windows 11 which occassionally feel slow or stuck but otherwise works fine. it appears the ghost is gone.

topgear said:
Sorry for the late reply .. B450 + 5500GT is a Ok combo.

Sorry Friend, actually I had increased my Budget...Cancelled the previous config.

(Archaic PC with AMD FX6300 CPU ,16GB DDR3 RAM,ASUS AMD Radeon RX550GT, etc...Since 2014):--->UPGRADED MY PC/RIG:--->>

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 8500G
Mobo: GIGABYTE B650M H(ver-1.3)
RAM: GSkill Ripjaws S5 (16GB x 2),Total: 32GB DDR5, 5200MHz
Cabinet: Ant Esports 205 Mini 6F Mid Tower Gaming Cabinet - Black(Total 6 LED LIGHTED Fans Fitted)
SMPS: Cooler Master MWE Bronze 650 V3 230V 80 Plus Bronze 650 Watt ATX 3.1 Power Supply.
GPU: ASRock RX6500GT
UPS: CYBERPOWER UT1200E

*MONITOR: GW2491 | 23.8" 1080p FHD 100Hz Eye-Care Monitor from BenQ (Already have for the past 1.5yrs)
*HDD: SATA SSD 1TB from CRUCIAL
and Primary OS (Windows 11 Pro 64-Bit) installed on Samsung NVME M.2 2280 SSD (PCIE-3)of 1TB Capacity
a third 1TB mini HDD of Hitachi(extracted from my HP Laptop 4 yrs before) (ALL were kept by me)
*KEYBOARD & MOUSE: ZEB Transformer Pro(Wireless Combo of Keyboard and Mouse) by Zebronics(Purchased last year with a very cheap Deal from Amazon)
*SPEAKERS: The old archaic Wooden Speakers TARANG 2.1 from IBall.

* Components already purchased before......

So that's it,Friend.

kg11sgbg said:
Sorry Friend, actually I had increased my Budget...Cancelled the previous config.

(Archaic PC with AMD FX6300 CPU ,16GB DDR3 RAM,ASUS AMD Radeon RX550GT, etc...Since 2014):--->UPGRADED MY PC/RIG:--->>

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 8500G
Mobo: GIGABYTE B650M H(ver-1.3)
RAM: GSkill Ripjaws S5 (16GB x 2),Total: 32GB DDR5, 5200MHz
Cabinet: Ant Esports 205 Mini 6F Mid Tower Gaming Cabinet - Black(Total 6 LED LIGHTED Fans Fitted)
SMPS: Cooler Master MWE Bronze 650 V3 230V 80 Plus Bronze 650 Watt ATX 3.1 Power Supply.
GPU: ASRock RX6500GT
UPS: CYBERPOWER UT1200E

*MONITOR: GW2491 | 23.8" 1080p FHD 100Hz Eye-Care Monitor from BenQ (Already have for the past 1.5yrs)
*HDD: SATA SSD 1TB from CRUCIAL
and Primary OS (Windows 11 Pro 64-Bit) installed on Samsung NVME M.2 2280 SSD (PCIE-3)of 1TB Capacity
a third 1TB mini HDD of Hitachi(extracted from my HP Laptop 4 yrs before) (ALL were kept by me)
*KEYBOARD & MOUSE: ZEB Transformer Pro(Wireless Combo of Keyboard and Mouse) by Zebronics(Purchased last year with a very cheap Deal from Amazon)
*SPEAKERS: The old archaic Wooden Speakers TARANG 2.1 from IBall.

* Components already purchased before......

So that's it,Friend.

Wow, congratulations brother.

topgear said:
Wow, congratulations brother.

Thank You,Brother. :smile:

In fact now slowly but surely I am entering into the GAMING world.
This is a change of my mindset,which happens with every Humans at some point in their life.
Wish,Decisions,Learning,etc... all revolves within our minds...

B550 / B450 motherboard

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