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Bad News for Winamp lovers

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alib_i
alib_i Original post #1
Nov 12, 2004 at 3:36 PM
Death Knell Sounds for Nullsoft, Winamp
By Nate Mook, BetaNews
November 10, 2004, 1:26 PM

The last members of the original Winamp team have said goodbye to AOL and the door has all but shut on the Nullsoft era, BetaNews has learned.

Only a few employees remain to prop up the once-ubiquitous digital audio player with minor updates, but no further improvements to Winamp are expected.




*www.betanews.com/article/Death_Knell_Sounds_for_Nullsoft_Winamp/1100111204
NikhilVerma
Nov 12, 2004 at 3:53 PM
It's a really sad tale.....
I loved it so much...

But I think that Winamp has reached the saturation point of it's perfection...
So no more updates are required...
The v5 will rule for a long long time....
F
Nov 12, 2004 at 4:24 PM
really sad
the current latest version will work fine for years now..
drgrudge
Nov 12, 2004 at 4:25 PM
we too, no winamp installed....

i use powerdvd and wmp 10
F
Nov 12, 2004 at 5:06 PM
I nolonger use Winamp but i remember good old days of windows 95 and i couldnt live without Winamp.
Sad to see it dying.
G
gxsaurav #7
Nov 12, 2004 at 5:35 PM
Hmm, Winamp 5.05 is 99.98 % perfect, there is hardly any bug noticable , this version will be compatible & good, dam hard to beat for a long time

I already gave this news in the confrence last nite, neyway, good to see here

However, is there a true winamp alternative in terms of Skinning & memory usage
vysakh
vysakh #8
Nov 12, 2004 at 5:46 PM
:( :( :( :( :( :( :( :(
P
Nov 12, 2004 at 6:06 PM
So sad.
Will have to do with Winamp 5.
vysakh
vysakh #10
Nov 12, 2004 at 6:10 PM
now time to take over to windows media player 10
C
curvenger #11
Nov 12, 2004 at 7:30 PM
we r gonna miss it!!! but dont worry, atleast there must be some other guys who'll update it!!
S
suhas_sm #13
Nov 12, 2004 at 8:34 PM
Nah winamp not everything for me too .... wmp's library is far more cooler for a huge song collection ! not that winamp is bad its good cos i use both :)
ShekharPalash
Nov 12, 2004 at 9:00 PM
gxsaurav said:
Hmm, Winamp 5.05 is 99.98 % perfect

right said... but with "classic" skin.... still lotta skin crash...

However, is there a true winamp alternative in terms of Skinning & memory usage

Winamp is the playa who revolutionized skinning... in fact the first thing get skinned was I think Winamp... the grand grand father of all GUI eye candy we see today.... lol

I think Winamp will live... forever :)
B
Nov 12, 2004 at 9:32 PM
I guess it wud go tha open s/w way................,y not?
xenkatesh
xenkatesh #16
Nov 12, 2004 at 9:45 PM
May be!!
I
indrajit #17
Nov 13, 2004 at 1:27 AM
Have tried a lot of players, but nothing seemed close enough to stand up to good old Winamp! The news is a blow for music lovers!
sreevirus
sreevirus #18
Nov 13, 2004 at 1:42 AM
hehe...i gave up amp ever since version 3....its a real resource hog...now, i just use QCD or foobar2000 special version or wxmusik
NikhilVerma
Nov 13, 2004 at 10:23 AM
sreevirus said:
hehe...i gave up amp ever since version 3....its a real resource hog...now, i just use QCD or foobar2000 special version or wxmusik

d00d!!

download the version 5 it's really fast and has many features...
techno_funky
Nov 13, 2004 at 12:12 PM
hmmm sad news i used it frm version 2.xxxx
sad story for sure
anyways ive been using foobar for a while now
so no problems
I
indrajit #21
Nov 13, 2004 at 12:13 PM
sreevirus said:
hehe...i gave up amp ever since version 3....its a real resource hog...now, i just use QCD or foobar2000 special version or wxmusik

Just try the latest version. I think you'll feel the same way as we do!
cooljeba
cooljeba #22
Nov 13, 2004 at 5:40 PM
damn dat's real sad :cry: . i have been using since 2.xx. actually rarely used 3 but now using 5. Even now it's playing as i am typing here :(. *sob* *sob*
BTW QCD is cool.

..:: peace ::.
Jeba
djmykey
djmykey #23
Nov 13, 2004 at 7:34 PM
Ya man tats really bad but hey were getting skins so no probs for me tho. But its sad man winamp gone.
Hey I tried foobar its cr@p man batty has ur mind gone to the drains no skins nothing playlist $ux royally man its too bad i don't like it.
G
gxsaurav #24
Nov 13, 2004 at 8:29 PM
I tried QCD player, but it isn't as good as Winamp,

I didn't like the skinning engine if QCD, first we can't use Winamp skins with it, then the QCD player doesn't supports alpha blending in the Skins, third the Winamp DSP plugins like DFX don't work even if they claim it works

Hey, but I think Winamp is not compleately dead, AOL had a Media Player named AOL Media player whose beta I tried, it looks a lot like Winamp, maybe it's the same code, & now AOL is using AMp to make some money

This is just a guess, maybe, AOL is taking the Winamp code, & converting it to a compleate Media Player, remember Winamp even supports Video files, so it's like we will soon have AMP or AOL Media Player, which will be based on Winamp code, but will be commercial, it will have all the features & skinning engine of Winamp, I hope for the same & freeform engine of Winamp. I have a screenshot of it

*www.sapartyboys.com/amp.jpg

As U can see it looks a lot like itunes, I mean UI wise, so maybe Winamp isn't dead compleately
P
perk_bud #25
Nov 13, 2004 at 8:32 PM
ONLY MUSIC PLAYER THAT GAVE MICROSOFT A RUN FOR THEIR
MONEY
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gxsaurav #26
Nov 13, 2004 at 8:36 PM
& here is the page for AOL Media Player

*stream.info.aol.com/aolmedia.html
sreevirus
sreevirus #27
Nov 13, 2004 at 9:56 PM
NikhilVerma said:
sreevirus said:
hehe...i gave up amp ever since version 3....its a real resource hog...now, i just use QCD or foobar2000 special version or wxmusik

d00d!!

download the version 5 it's really fast and has many features...

indrajit said:
sreevirus said:
hehe...i gave up amp ever since version 3....its a real resource hog...now, i just use QCD or foobar2000 special version or wxmusik

Just try the latest version. I think you'll feel the same way as we do!

i have tried v. 5.04 and i had it installed on my PC till last month...and i wasnt just bluffing when i said it was a resource hog...it comes in second after WMP....amp used to suck up 12 to 24 mb of memory while WMP still uses upto 28 to 30 mb (sometimes even more)...
and i didnt feel the need to have winamp installed when i cud do many things together with QCD/foobar2000 playing gr8 quality music. i really dont care much abt skins...i just like to hear good music, the looks of the player is a second priority....and QCD skins arent bad at all...
and both QCD and foobar use upto a max of 3.4 mb while playing the music (when minimised to tray, foobar uses only a little bit greater than 1 mb)...so, i wud naturally prefer these over winamp. the interface of foobar may not ppeal to everyone, but u get loads of gr8 funcionalities in foobar (the special version offers even more functions), only u must experiment with it...
ah well, to each his choice....:)

djmykey said:
Hey I tried foobar its cr@p man batty has ur mind gone to the drains no skins nothing playlist $ux royally man its too bad i don't like it.
no mike, he has his brains in place (ya, i know most of the times its out of place but...;) )try foobar special...it sorts the playlist properly...
who needs skins when u can change the colors...heres how i made my foobar look like:
*img.photobucket.com/albums/v242/sreevirus/foo1.jpg
*img.photobucket.com/albums/v242/sreevirus/foo2.jpg
hard_rock
hard_rock #28
Nov 14, 2004 at 2:59 AM
Bah .. Use QCD Player ...

I dont even have WinAmp installed ...
Same here...........
But itz sad to hear the news coz it was my fav player when I was not aware of QCD Player
alib_i
alib_i #29
Nov 14, 2004 at 3:41 AM
it_waaznt_me said:
Bah .. Use Foobar or QCD Player ...

I dont even have WinAmp installed :p ...

bad ..

Winamp is not fot ppl whu love to skin their players more than playing songs on them
I'm a muzic freak .. i love listening to songs and no player matches the speeds and simplicity of winamp

the best part of winamp is that you can take winamp to any level of perfection using plugins ..
no player can match winamp's skills if proper plugins are installed
and yet u can always have the no-resource-hogging -dead-simple and fast media player
i play real media too in winamp

and sreevirus ..
just keep winamp5 in classic skin ..
u can use all its features
and still the memory usage is minimal
djmykey
djmykey #30
Nov 14, 2004 at 8:31 AM
hey cmon sree it doesnt hog ram im using it on modern skins man it rox cmon.

Sreevirus wrote:

no mike, he has his brains in place (ya, i know most of the times its out of place but...Wink )try foobar special...it sorts the playlist properly...
who needs skins when u can change the colors...heres how i made my foobar look like

Hey i tried foobar 2000 its playlist was not good at all. Winamp has the most flexible playlist. Drag and drop a file into the list and it gets enqued but foobar its not like that u gotta go thru menus and stuff thats y i told that. And yes i like a cute player rather than a player that looks like another explorer window open and playing songs.
GNUrag
GNUrag #31
Nov 14, 2004 at 3:51 PM
Really sad to know Winamp die.... many media players for Linux (X11AMP , XMMS) were based on Winamp , they also supported winamp skins...
vysakh
vysakh #32
Nov 14, 2004 at 4:08 PM
every man will die one day
adithyagenius
Nov 14, 2004 at 7:54 PM
sreevirus said:
NikhilVerma said:
sreevirus said:
hehe...i gave up amp ever since version 3....its a real resource hog...now, i just use QCD or foobar2000 special version or wxmusik

d00d!!

download the version 5 it's really fast and has many features...

indrajit said:
sreevirus said:
hehe...i gave up amp ever since version 3....its a real resource hog...now, i just use QCD or foobar2000 special version or wxmusik

Just try the latest version. I think you'll feel the same way as we do!

i have tried v. 5.04 and i had it installed on my PC till last month...and i wasnt just bluffing when i said it was a resource hog...it comes in second after WMP....amp used to suck up 12 to 24 mb of memory while WMP still uses upto 28 to 30 mb (sometimes even more)... /quote]

U must be joking. only 28 mb? In my comp it uses 76 mb and also 74% cpu of p4. It has simplicity but resource management is crap. I use 3 players viz qtime for .mov and such, winamp for audio and wm10 for video. Also bink for bink files. Qtime has the best video qualtiy. If I try to see game trailers using winamp the the framerate is very very bad. Its like playing high end game on low end pc. I shows wrong length of files for VBR mp3s while qtime and other show the correct length. But still I use winamp becoz of getting used to it since v2.7 and I also that I have knowledge about only winamps equaliser. I don't know how to fine tune other equalisers. Winamps very bad for video.

So please give me some alternatives.
adithyagenius
Nov 14, 2004 at 7:58 PM
Also forgot to mention. It is the only player in background which doesn't allow u play games with decent framerate. I had avg scanning my sytem without affecting my framerate. Well there is Real player too which i don't use becoz it is bugged.
B
Nov 14, 2004 at 8:07 PM
Winamp for me is more as a cult nothings gonna replace it.
Been using it for the past 6-7 years.
It sang wen i passed 10th 12th all my engg days.
The sound and feel of winamp with izotope will never ever be recreated by any other shitty player.
adithyagenius
Nov 14, 2004 at 8:15 PM
beyondthegracefgod said:
Winamp for me is more as a cult nothings gonna replace it.
Been using it for the past 6-7 years.
It sang wen i passed 10th 12th all my engg days.
The sound and feel of winamp with izotope will never ever be recreated by any other **** player.

Being emotional and nostalgic about it? I will try other players and there is a possibilty that other players will be better. Then I can switch over leaving behind emotional people with their oudated players.
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[deXter] #37
Nov 14, 2004 at 8:33 PM
djmykey said:
Hey i tried foobar 2000 its playlist was not good at all. Winamp has the most flexible playlist. Drag and drop a file into the list and it gets enqued but foobar its not like that u gotta go thru menus and stuff thats y i told that. And yes i like a cute player rather than a player that looks like another explorer window open and playing songs.
Eh, what are you talking about? Foobar2000 does support drag and drop and its playlist is as flexible as winamp's. And besides why do you even want to look at a player? Aren't we supposed to listen to songs? My fb runs completly in the background, and I fully control it with my keyboard (I used my num pad keys, plus the multimedia keys my keyboard came with). So now I can just simply enjoy my songs- insead of worrying about looks, windows, playlists etc.

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About Winamp 5, it is really sad that happened. Blame it on AOL.
I'm mainly worried not for Winamp, but for NSIS (Nullsoft Scriptable Install System). In my opinion NSIS is the best install maker ever- The biggest advantage it has over all others is that its easy to use, small, less overhead and has really good compression. I do hope that NSIS will continue to be developed and improved.

*img.photobucket.com/albums/v189/dextersgenius/signature1.gif
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gxsaurav #38
Nov 14, 2004 at 9:17 PM
NSIS, well quite good, But I still prefer Windows Installer 2.0 & now 3.0, da best

NSIS doesn't revart the PC back to it's original state when the Program is uninstalled, while Windows installer does, besides compression rate depends on the maker, he can use dam high compression rate but it will take more time to encode the file, still less time to decode

AOL, GO TO HELL

Although, i thing for sure, i will use the AMP if it comes out as standalone, after removing the AOL junk
saROMan
saROMan #39
Nov 15, 2004 at 12:12 AM
bad really bad......Foobar.....WMP...QCD...r crap....Winamp Rulez....
i hav been using winamp 2,3.5 ....its a bad news for a Avid Lover of Winamp....:(:(:(:(:(:(
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Nemesis #40
Nov 15, 2004 at 3:45 AM
hmmm....i dont winamp...its QCD and WMP10 4 me...and WMP is using less than 10MB right now (unless it also has another process running that i dont know abt)....here is a screenshot:
*img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/firecracker123/taskmanager.jpg
alib_i
alib_i #41
Nov 15, 2004 at 4:28 AM
the best feature of winamp 5 ( in my view )

the Jump/Enqueue feature ..
You can Enqueue a selected file in the playlist ..
such that it will play even with shuffle on
and this feature is also available in "Jump" dialogue box ( the one which comes on pressing J key)
N
Nemesis #42
Nov 15, 2004 at 10:24 AM
i 4got 2 mention.....i have the Microsoft Plus! Digital Media Edition software which comes with a voice command software 4 WMP...i can control playback and other features by just giving voice commands...how cool is that????
C
Nov 17, 2004 at 12:01 AM
global hot keys

fellas,
is there a player with the facility of Global Hot Keys out there?
if yes then winamp can RIP else it will rule for some time.

my MM Keyboard can function as global hot keys for WMP 10... hence i too dun use winamp these days...

WMP 10 is faster and more superior in some respect.

But yes... anyone who has worked with conversion of MP3 to RAW wave or WMA to RAW wave... will have known the superiority of winamp's disk writer plugin

Captain Ron
Over and Out
it_waaznt_me
Nov 17, 2004 at 12:15 AM
Global Hot Keys are supported in QCD Player ....
djmykey
djmykey #45
Nov 17, 2004 at 8:26 AM
Hey anna and dex, tried the foobar special it rox but adding lotsa plugins mea ns hogging resources dunno much abt it but sys was hangin(btw testbed was p3 700 mhz and 128mb sd) a lot when i added lotsa plugins but now only equaliser its running fine. but no presets r a turn off. Tho its lite with the equaliser only. only thing i miss is skins. and yes dex my foobar is in my systray no need of it on my taskbar also. all in all i started to like it.

Sorry for my previous comments if it hurt any 1.
rohanbee
rohanbee #46
Nov 19, 2004 at 1:31 PM
I think we should petiotion aol to keep it going :x

Nobody should take winamp from us its the best and coolest thing for your desktop it looks good and it sounds good too......

Foo or whatever it is called looks quite dull...........

for me i guess looks are quite important ..............im being quite vane i know. But like i say

man lives on hope and hope sustains life............so lets not forget winamp yet.............u never know.
A
Nov 19, 2004 at 2:35 PM
:cry: :cry:




REST IN PEACE
B
Nov 19, 2004 at 8:27 PM
Winamp 5.06 released on 18/11/04

Mercenaries Never Die
G
gxsaurav #49
Nov 19, 2004 at 11:21 PM
Ya it is released, so it's like Winamp is dead, developement wise, but the bugs will be continued to be fixed, justlike AOL sadi already, the support for Winamp will continue