Badass Gaming PC for 80K

1. What is the purpose of the computer? What all applications and games are you going to run? (Stupid answers like 'gaming' or 'office work' will not work. Be exact. Which games? Which applications? Avoid the word 'et cetera.')
Ans: Gaming,some more gaming and then some more Gaming :twisted:

Skyrim(2K texture Pack Mod and various other mods), Crysis(again with HD texture pack),CODs,FIFAs and all the Games for the next 2 year at least.

2. What is your overall budget? If you can extend a bit for a more balanced configuration, then mention this too.
Ans: Maximum 80K, +-5K

3. Planning to overclock?
Ans:Not instantly. Maybe after a year if I feel it is not up to the competition.

4. Which Operating System are you planning to use?
Ans: Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit,Windows 8 64bit

5. How much hard drive space is needed?
Ans: Have a1TB HDD,only need a SSD for performance.

6. Do you want to buy a monitor? If yes, please mention which screen size and resolution do you want. If you already have a monitor and want to reuse it, again mention the size and resolution of monitor you have.
Ans:Yes want a monitor. Minimum 22 inch and more if budget allows.Full HD obviously. :-D

7. Which components you DON'T want to buy or which components you already have and plan on reusing?
Ans :Will be using my Seagate 1 TB hard disk a few months old,except that need EVERYTHING.

8. When are you planning to buy the system?
Ans: Will start purchasing components as soon as I finalize the configuration.

9. Have you ever built a desktop before or will this be done by an assembler?
Ans: I've not assembled a whole desktop before as my last desktop was assembled by my big bro around 6 years ago. But since then I've played around with my old desktop a lot and have a fair idea about what to do. So I'll do it myself. If you think it is not a right decision please tell me.

10. Where do you live? Are you buying locally? Are you open to buying stuff from online shops if you don't get locally?
Ans: I'm currently in Rewa (Madhya Pradesh) and it is a small city so I do not hope to find many components here.I'll check the local market once but will probably buy everything online.

11. Anything else which you would like to say?
Ans: There are a few specific requirements. As mentioned in the title I want the PC to look badass. :-D

So I'll probably want a nice looking cabinet.Also,I want a monitor with a narrow bezel. Also suggest a good Speaker System. The system needs to have Wi-Fi adapter as my broadband is connected to my download rig and this rig will be connected to internet through Wi-Fi.

Component	Product	Price (rs)
Processor	Intel i5 2500k	13000
Motherboard	Asus P8Z77-M Pro	12932
Ram	2x4gb Corsair Vengeance Low Profile 1600mhz cl9	2548
Graphics Card	Msi HD7850 Power Edition OC	16600
Hard Drive	1tb Western Digital Cavair Blue	5406
Optical Drive	Asus DRW-24B5ST	1114
PC Case	Corsair Carbide 400R	4576
Power Supply Unit	Corsair GS600	4576
Monitor	AOC I2251FW 21.5" Full HD LED	8239
Mouse	Logitech G400	1885
Keyboard	Microsoft Sidewinder X4	2412
Heatsink	Coolermaster Hyper 212 Evo	2101
	TOTAL	75389

Prices taken from diff sites..street prices should be similar...
Source: OCfreak's Gaming PC Buying GUIDE

^^ Very nice configuration. Exactly what I had in mind> A few things,please also suggest a 24" monitor and a speaker. Isn't Sidewinder X4 unavailable now? Thaks mate.

^^overkill FTW

Monitor

AOC e2352 Phz 23" LED 3D

14490

Link

u really should check out the link given

sumonpathak said:
^^overkill FTW

Monitor
AOC e2352 Phz 23" LED 3D 14490 Link

u really should check out the link given

True

Checking out the link. Meanwhile,how about some non 3d monitors. I totally hate the present state of 3d technology.

I would like to know one thing. Being AMD chipset based card,7850 does not have support for PhysX and CUDA technologies of NVIDIA? Do they make big impact? Is it a serious drawback?

^^nope....physx and cuda as of now dont make a big dent unless u are a fanboy

try dell u2311...

I don't think there are games which use CUDA GP-GPU technology to improve game Graphics. PhysX might be useful but there are only very few games which use it and fewer can show dramatic display quality improvement by implementing it. Actually both of these technologies are reaching their EOL due to the rise of open architecture based languages like OpenCL. In future it is going to be used to improve game quality by performing the computation of Dynamic Lighting, FOD etc in GPU.

sumonpathak said:
^^nope....physx and cuda as of now dont make a big dent unless u are a fanboy
try dell u2311...

Nope,no fan boyism for me. Have read about those technologies in many ads that's why asked. Yup,have seen the Dell U2311H at recommended at many forums and websites it looks really good but the low response time can result in ghosting while gaming.

Cilus said:
I don't think there are games which use CUDA GP-GPU technology to improve game Graphics. PhysX might be useful but there are only very few games which use it and fewer can show dramatic display quality improvement by implementing it. Actually both of these technologies are reaching their EOL due to the rise of open architecture based languages like OpenCL. In future it is going to be used to improve game quality by performing the computation of Dynamic Lighting, FOD etc in GPU.

Thanks a lot for the clarification.

I

sumonpathak said:
Component Product Price (rs)
Processor Intel i5 2500k 13000

Motherboard Asus P8Z77-M Pro 12932

Ram 2x4gb Corsair Vengeance Low Profile 1600mhz cl9 2548

Graphics Card Msi HD7850 Power Edition OC 16600
Hard Drive 1tb Western Digital Cavair Blue 5406
Optical Drive Asus DRW-24B5ST 1114

PC Case Corsair Carbide 400R 4576
Power Supply Unit Corsair GS600 4576
Monitor AOC I2251FW 21.5" Full HD LED 8239
Mouse Logitech G400 1885
Keyboard Microsoft Sidewinder X4 2412
Heatsink
Coolermaster Hyper 212 Evo 2101

TOTAL
75389

Prices taken from diff sites..street prices should be similar...
Source: OCfreak's Gaming PC Buying GUIDE

Why 7850 ??.. he can easily get a gtx 660 ti or 7870

@sumonpathak Bro,in the config you have given I don't need the 1TB HDD. Suggest 60-80 GB SSD isntead. Benq 24 inch LED - GL2450 Monitor: Flipkart.com And how about this monitor?

monitor is good...take OCZ vertex as SSD..should be around 8k...

iSachin said:
Why 7850 ??.. he can easily get a gtx 660 ti or 7870

he wont be gaming at over 1080p..so a 7850 will be enough.

sumonpathak said:
monitor is good...take OCZ vertex as SSD..should be around 8k...

OK,thanks.

iSachin said:
Why 7850 ??.. he can easily get a gtx 660 ti or 7870

sumonpathak said:
monitor is good...take OCZ vertex as SSD..should be around 8k...

he wont be gaming at over 1080p..so a 7850 will be enough.

What will be the improvement if I decide to splurge ,my cash on 660ti? More than 15FPS?

lovedonator said:
Nope,no fan boyism for me. Have read about those technologies in many ads that's why asked. Yup,have seen the Dell U2311H at recommended at many forums and websites it looks really good but the low response time can result in ghosting while gaming.

Thanks a lot for the clarification.

Check out Dell U2312HM which is a e-IPS panel LED Monitor and w.r.t ghosting......i haven't experienced any.
Dell U2312HM Review
It cost around 15k or less.

@sumonpathak - Why go for i5-2500k ? It wont give us PCIE 3.0 support, right ? All 7xxx series from AMD and 6xx series from NV are PCIE 3.0 cards. So until we have a Ivy Bridge processor, we wont be able to exploit PCIE 3.0 bus.
Agreed that 3570K does not give more than 5% increase in performance so 2500K owners should not think about upgrading to 3570k but for building new rigs 3570K is recommended as cost difference is only 2K. So IMO lovedonator should go for i5-3570K for pairing with Z77 mobo.

AOC 2353PHz is available for 13K in local markets now. Using it for last 4 months now... no issues encountered as of now. 3D functionality is provided by Tridef software which functions better with AMD cards.

takemein said:
Check out Dell U2312HM which is a e-IPS panel LED Monitor and w.r.t ghosting......i haven't experienced any.
Dell U2312HM Review
It cost around 15k or less.

Saw it,was 17K on flipkart so din't give much thought.

mandarpalshikar said:
@sumonpathak - Why go for i5-2500k ? It wont give us PCIE 3.0 support, right ? All 7xxx series from AMD and 6xx series from NV are PCIE 3.0 cards. So until we have a Ivy Bridge processor, we wont be able to exploit PCIE 3.0 bus.
Agreed that 3570K does not give more than 5% increase in performance so 2500K owners should not think about upgrading to 3570k but for building new rigs 3570K is recommended as cost difference is only 2K. So IMO lovedonator should go for i5-3570K for pairing with Z77 mobo.

AOC 2353PHz is available for 13K in local markets now. Using it for last 4 months now... no issues encountered as of now. 3D functionality is provided by Tridef software which functions better with AMD cards.

Valid point about the processor. The AOC 2353PHz is not available locally for me.Any online link?

V

@lovedonator

Intel i5 2500k - 12.5k
Asus P8Z77 V - 15.5k
G-skill RipjawX 1600 MHz 4GB X 2 DDR3 - 3K
Corsair carbide 400r - 4.5k
Asus DRW-24B5ST - 1.1k
Corsair GS600 - 4.6k or Seasonic S12ii 520w - 4k
Logitech MK200 - 0.7k
OCZ Vertex4 128GB - 8k or Corsair 120GB Force GT SSD - 8.2k
MSI R7950-2PMD3GD5/OC -24k
BENQ G2420 - 10k
CM Hyper212evo - 2.1k
Total~86k

Asus P8Z77 V has a wifi chip on it.
No point of PCIe3.0 here as PCIe2.0 does not bottleneck hd7950 in gaming.

vkl said:
@lovedonator

Intel i5 2500k - 12.5k
Asus P8Z77 V - 15.5k
G-skill RipjawX 1600 MHz 4GB X 2 DDR3 - 3K
Corsair carbide 400r - 4.5k
Asus DRW-24B5ST - 1.1k
Corsair GS600 - 4.6k or Seasonic S12ii 520w - 4k
Logitech MK200 - 0.7k
OCZ Vertex4 128GB - 8k or Corsair 120GB Force GT SSD - 8.2k
MSI R7950-2PMD3GD5/OC -24k
BENQ G2420 - 10k
CM Hyper212evo - 2.1k
Total~86k

Asus P8Z77 has a wifi chip on it.
No point of PCIe3.0 here as PCIe2.0 does not bottleneck hd7950 in gaming.

Thanks. Although I'm not going to use Logitech MK200 with my gaming PC. The Graphic Card is too expensive as of now. No speaker is included so after buying Speaker and good Gaming Keyboard and mouse I'll overshoot the budget.
I'm aware that all the present Graphic card don't even utilize the full potential of even PCIe 2.0 let alone 3.0/ But all the modern SSDs do and that makes a difference.

mandarpalshikar said:
@sumonpathak - Why go for i5-2500k ? It wont give us PCIE 3.0 support, right ? All 7xxx series from AMD and 6xx series from NV are PCIE 3.0 cards. So until we have a Ivy Bridge processor, we wont be able to exploit PCIE 3.0 bus.
Agreed that 3570K does not give more than 5% increase in performance so 2500K owners should not think about upgrading to 3570k but for building new rigs 3570K is recommended as cost difference is only 2K. So IMO lovedonator should go for i5-3570K for pairing with Z77 mobo.

he better invest the 2K on good cooling because

PCI 3.0 brings no noticeable gain in FPS

Example:

[*=1]*images.hardwarecanucks.com/image//skymtl/GPU/HD7970/HD7970-69.jpg
[*=1]*images.hardwarecanucks.com/image//skymtl/GPU/HD7970/HD7970-68.jpg
[*=1]*www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Intel/Ivy_Bridge_PCI-Express_Scaling/24.html
[*=1]*vr-zone.com/articles/does-pcie-3.0-matter-for-today-s-gpus-we-test-with-the-radeon-hd-7970/14306.html

2.IVY is a pain to OC on air(trust me you will know about t gradually

)

its better if he buys a kickass cooler like HOC 40 or D14

and unless you are using top of the line pci SSd you wont see a difference...and those ssd's cost an arma and leg and probably you firstborn

V

lovedonator said:
Thanks. Although I'm not going to use Logitech MK200 with my gaming PC. The Graphic Card is too expensive as of now. No speaker is included so after buying Speaker and good Gaming Keyboard and mouse I'll overshoot the budget.
I'm aware that all the present Graphic card don't even utilize the full potential of even PCIe 2.0 let alone 3.0/ But all the modern SSDs do and that makes a difference.

Many currently available SSDs are bottlenecked by sataII but are fine with sataIII.And all the H67/H77/Z77/Z68/P67/B75 etc. have sataIII except h61 and older boards.
PCIe has nothing to do with this unless you use PCI-e SSD.

sumonpathak said:
he better invest the 2K on good cooling because

PCI 3.0 brings no noticeable gain in FPS

Example:

[*=1]*images.hardwarecanucks.com/image//skymtl/GPU/HD7970/HD7970-69.jpg
[*=1]*images.hardwarecanucks.com/image//skymtl/GPU/HD7970/HD7970-68.jpg
[*=1]*www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Intel/Ivy_Bridge_PCI-Express_Scaling/24.html
[*=1]*vr-zone.com/articles/does-pcie-3.0-matter-for-today-s-gpus-we-test-with-the-radeon-hd-7970/14306.html

2.IVY is a pain to OC on air(trust me you will know about t gradually )

its better if he buys a kickass cooler like HOC 40 or D14

and unless you are using top of the line pci SSd you wont see a difference...and those ssd's cost an arma and leg and probably you firstborn

vkl said:
Many currently available SSDs are bottlenecked by sataII but are fine with sataIII.And all the H67/H77/Z77/Z68/P67/B75 etc. have sataIII except h61 and older boards.
PCIe has nothing to do with this unless you use PCI-e SSD.

So confused about the processors. Aarrggghhhhhh

Mind saying 2500K and heart saying 3570k(just because it's the latest technology :-D

) Tell me what if I decide not to overclock my PC? Then should I go for the 3570k? Is 3570k in no way better than 2500k except for integrated graphics?

its not better...just a rehash on a smaller die

take the 2500K..be happy

V

@lovedonator

i5 3570k is not that much faster than i5 2500k.It runs hotter and overclocks lesser than i5 2500k.
Unless you want to use the faster quick sync(intel's video transcoding engine) of i5 3570k which is faster than the quick sync implementation in i5 2500k,i5 2500k is a better value for money.

sumonpathak said:
its not better...just a rehash on a smaller die
take the 2500K..be happy

vkl said:
@lovedonator

i5 3570k is not that much faster than i5 2500k.It runs hotter and overclocks lesser than i5 2500k.
Unless you want to use the faster quick sync(intel's video transcoding engine) of i5 3570k which is faster than the quick sync implementation in i5 2500k,i5 2500k is a better value for money.

OK,i2500k it is. @sumonpathak,the link you gave in your first post has some components listed at WELCOME TO MDCOMPUTERS ::::::::::The Ultimate IT Solutions:::::::::: Have you ever purchased something from there? I've never heard about this site and I can not find those components at the same price in any other website.

sumonpathak said:
its not better...just a rehash on a smaller die
take the 2500K..be happy

vkl said:
@lovedonator

i5 3570k is not that much faster than i5 2500k.It runs hotter and overclocks lesser than i5 2500k.
Unless you want to use the faster quick sync(intel's video transcoding engine) of i5 3570k which is faster than the quick sync implementation in i5 2500k,i5 2500k is a better value for money.

OK,i2500k it is. @sumonpathak,the link you gave in your first post has some components listed at *mdcomputers.in/ Have you ever purchased something from there? I've never heard about this site and I can not find those components at the same price in any other website.

IMO.... You are bulding an 80K rig... dont think about saving 2k... go with the latest components.

Not everybody is hardcore overclocker

. I've never used a 2500K but I've got 3570K running at 4.2GHz always... can crank it up to 4.4 GHz with ease... this too on just CM Hyper 212 Evo with 2 Fans. What else do you need as a Gamer (not as enthusiast overclocker) ? Get 2500K if you are aiming at sky-high overclocks beyond 4.8GHz :wink:

. IMO for new rig use 3570K instead of 2500K

. 3570K consumes less power as well. I dont see any reason why anyone would choose SB over IB for a new system build when pairing with Z77 chipset.

sumonpathak said:
its not better...just a rehash on a smaller die
take the 2500K..be happy

mandarpalshikar said:
IMO.... You are bulding an 80K rig... dont think about saving 2k... go with the latest components.

Not everybody is hardcore overclocker . I've never used a 2500K but I've got 3570K running at 4.2GHz always... can crank it up to 4.4 GHz with ease... this too on just CM Hyper 212 Evo with 2 Fans. What else do you need as a Gamer (not as enthusiast overclocker) ? Get 2500K if you are aiming at sky-high overclocks beyond 4.8GHz . IMO for new rig use 3570K instead of 2500K . 3570K consumes less power as well. I dont see any reason why anyone would choose SB over IB for a new system build when pairing with Z77 chipset.

I'm like a see-saw now

OK,will think about it. Meanwhile what about the Graphics Card? The suggested 7850 enough or should take the leap and buy 660ti?

i5-2500k.
No need to waste 2k for no extra features/gain.
I bought a new system a month ago and was in the same dilemma as you are. Go for i5-2500k.
2k is a lot.

Keyboard:
Microsoft Sidewinder X4
Logitech G105
Both are out of production but totally vfm. Search in local shops.

CPU Cooler:
Hyper 212 EVO will be enough for your needs. Think no more.

Mouse:
Logitech G400

Motherboard:
ASUS P8Z77-V PRO / P8Z77M-PRO

PSU:
Corsair GS 600
Seasonic S1211 620W

DVD Drive:
Any. Everyone has different experiences with different brands

RAM:
G-skill RipjawX 1600 MHz 4GB X 2 DDR3

SSD & Monitor:
Don't cheap out on this. Research a lot. Will help in the long run.

Rest of the stuff:
No idea

sharang.d said:
i5-2500k.
No need to waste 2k for no extra features/gain.
I bought a new system a month ago and was in the same dilemma as you are. Go for i5-2500k.
2k is a lot.

Keyboard:
Microsoft Sidewinder X4
Logitech G105
Both are out of production but totally vfm. Search in local shops.

CPU Cooler:
Hyper 212 EVO will be enough for your needs. Think no more.

Mouse:
Logitech G400

Motherboard:
ASUS P8Z77-V PRO / P8Z77M-PRO

PSU:
Corsair GS 600
Seasonic S1211 620W

DVD Drive:
Any. Everyone has different experiences with different brands

RAM:
G-skill RipjawX 1600 MHz 4GB X 2 DDR3

SSD & Monitor:
Don't cheap out on this. Research a lot. Will help in the long run.

Rest of the stuff:
No idea

I wont find anything locally in this godforsaken city. And if I find something it will be highly overpriced. So I'll have to look for other keyboards.
As for the SSD I've decide not to buy it and use my Seagate 1TB HDD for now.

Despite the higher-than-expected cost and higher operating temperatures, the Core i5-3570K is a worthy successor to the Core i5-2500K. It's noticeably faster, more power efficient, has a more powerful IGP and combined with a Z77 chipset motherboard, will offer far more features too.
Bit-tech.com review

The Intel Core i5-3570K processor represents a logical replacement for the popular Core i5-2500K that's found a home in many an enthusiast and system integrator system.
Run the Core i5-3570K at stock speeds/voltages and it provides the best bang-for-buck in the £150 space.
hexus.net review

The new Intel Core i5 3570K has everything that made its Core i5 2500K such a winning CPU. Per core performance is the best you can buy.
A great chip, but Core i5 2550K and i5 2500K owners have nothing to worry about.
techradar.com review

Unfortunately, the unusually high temperatures found during overclocking beyond 1.3V is most likely partly caused by this new process. This doesn't pose too much of a concern as a decent CPU air cooler can still handle overclocks within the 1.2-1.3V range with decent results and those who wish to push Ivy Bridge CPUs much further will be experienced extreme overclockers with LN2 cooling. Average performance tuners also don't really need to adjust secondary voltages as much anymore, compared to previous generation CPUs, since the memory controller can handle higher clocks.
hightechlegion review

Bottom line is....
1. If you have a 2500K already dont see 3570K as competition but as a worthy succesor and hold on to 2500K till next gen CPUs come.
2. If you are building a new rig go for 3570K as it is the successor to 2500K.
3. 3570K consumes less power at idle
4. Temperature factors in only in case of overclocking with Higer voltages.
5. If software support gets available in next 6 months it would be really awsome to see a video of say BD quality being ripped for your phone in just a matter of 10 minutes with use of Quicksync.

I am in no way criticising 2500K... its a great processor (no questions asked) but 3570K is its worthy successor and while building new rig 3570K is the way to go.
2k is not at all a higher premium for getting current generation procy. Ultimately you decide how much you value the 2k cost factor.

OK Guys,these are the components I have finalized and going to order tomorrow-
Processor-Intel i5 3570K
Motherboard-Asus P8Z77-M Pro
Ram-2x4gb Corsair Vengeance Low Profile 1600mhz cl9
PC Case- Corsair Carbide 400R
PSU- GS600
Heatsink-CoolerMaster Hyper212 Evo
Mouse-Logitech G400

Jury is still out on the following-
Graphic card- Is the 7850 enough or I should spend 6k more and get a 7870?
Monitor
A nice keyboard which I can purchase online

I'm really grateful for all the help I have received till now. If not for you guys I would surely have had no Idea what to purchase. You guys are the greatest.

A

sumonpathak said:
he wont be gaming at over 1080p..so a 7850 will be enough.

Not at all. 7850 will NOT run Crysis 1/2, Metro 2033, GTA 4 , Skyrim with ENB and mods at Ultra at 1080p at more than 40 fps. Take Crysis 2 for example. With the DX11 and High texture update, Crysis 2 will run at 35-45 fps at Ultra on a 7850. Better should be expected from a 80k computer.

sumonpathak said:
Component Product Price (rs)
Processor Intel i5 2500k 13000

Motherboard Asus P8Z77-M Pro 12932

Ram 2x4gb Corsair Vengeance Low Profile 1600mhz cl9 2548

Graphics Card Msi HD7850 Power Edition OC 16600
Hard Drive 1tb Western Digital Cavair Blue 5406
Optical Drive Asus DRW-24B5ST 1114

PC Case Corsair Carbide 400R 4576
Power Supply Unit Corsair GS600 4576
Monitor AOC I2251FW 21.5" Full HD LED 8239
Mouse Logitech G400 1885
Keyboard Microsoft Sidewinder X4 2412
Heatsink
Coolermaster Hyper 212 Evo 2101

TOTAL
75389

Prices taken from diff sites..street prices should be similar...
Source: OCfreak's Gaming PC Buying GUIDE

OP- Use the 1TB harddisk you already have for now. My suggestion is to hold back on the SSD, get cheaper mouse and keyboard for the time being, and fit a ZOTAC Nvidia 670 Amp Edition for 30k in there. Assuming you go with this build ^^, it should now cost you around 83-84k. Within your budget and with a much better graphics card, that can run Crysis 2 at an average of 63 FPS easily, as a reference.

EDIT: Just saw that the 670 amp edition is now 33k on Flipkart. A week ago it was 30.2k. Prices fluctuate a lot from site to site and time to time. Keep looking and see if you can find a 670 Amp for ~31k. It will max out any present game at 1080p Ultra @ 60+fps and you won't have to upgrade anytime soon.

lovedonator said:
Jury is still out on the following-
Graphic card- Is the 7850 enough or I should spend 6k more and get a 7870?
Monitor
A nice keyboard which I can purchase online

Montior:
Last time i checked with smcinternational Dell U2312HM sold for 15k shipped. If ur budget is tight, then go for any 24" TN panel monitor (benq,Dell,Samsung)
which cost around 10-12k max.

GPU:Badass Gaming PC needs Badass video card (HD7870 or higher)

takemein said:
Montior:
Last time i checked with smcinternational Dell U2312HM sold for 15k shipped. If ur budget is tight, then go for any 24" TN panel monitor (benq,Dell,Samsung)
which cost around 10-12k max.

GPU:Badass Gaming PC needs Badass video card (HD7870 or higher)

This I agree upon. Will see what I can do.Will fit a 7870 at least in my budget.

Tell me one thing,do SMCinternational ship all over India?

Yes they do ship all over India AFAIK.

gameranand said:
Yes they do ship all over India AFAIK.

Thanks

V

@lovedonator
If you are going for hd7870 better opt for hd7950.MSI R7950-2PMD3GD5/OC is only 2k more than MSI R7870 Twin Frozr.
There is significant performance difference between hd7950 and hd7870.For gaming better GPU is more important.Upcoming titles would be more demanding.
From a gaming point of view you can opt for i5 2500k instead of i5 3570k and invest the saved money on a better GPU.HD7950 would be better in the longer run.
You would get noticeably better performance(frame-rates) with a better GPU rather than if you opt for i5 3570k instead i5 2500k.
If one opts goes from hd7870 to hd7950 then he gets ~15% better gaming performance for 9% increase in price.
Whereas if one goes from i5 2500k to i5 3570k then he gets ~5% better cpu performance for ~15% increase in price.
i5 3570k is only a choice if you want the faster quick sync(quick sync with i5 2500k is fast enough though).

vkl said:
@lovedonator
If you are going for hd7870 better opt for hd7950.MSI R7950-2PMD3GD5/OC is only 2k more than MSI R7870 Twin Frozr.
There is significant performance difference between hd7950 and hd7870.For gaming better GPU is more important.Upcoming titles would be more demanding.
From a gaming point of view you can opt for i5 2500k instead of i5 3570k and invest the saved money on a better GPU.HD7950 would be better in the longer run.
You would get noticeably better performance(frame-rates) with a better GPU rather than if you opt for i5 3570k instead i5 2500k.
If one opts goes from hd7870 to hd7950 then he gets ~15% better gaming performance for 9% increase in price.
Whereas if one goes from i5 2500k to i5 3570k then he gets ~5% better cpu performance for ~15% increase in price.
i5 3570k is only a choice if you want the faster quick sync(quick sync with i5 2500k is fast enough though).

Th core clock of MSI 7950 you have mentioned above is 830Mhz whereas MSI 7870 twinfrozr has 1050 MHz core clock. Does that affect performance? I can not find reviews of the card you have mentioned.

vkl said:
@lovedonator
If you are going for hd7870 better opt for hd7950.MSI R7950-2PMD3GD5/OC is only 2k more than MSI R7870 Twin Frozr.
There is significant performance difference between hd7950 and hd7870.For gaming better GPU is more important.Upcoming titles would be more demanding.
From a gaming point of view you can opt for i5 2500k instead of i5 3570k and invest the saved money on a better GPU.HD7950 would be better in the longer run.
You would get noticeably better performance(frame-rates) with a better GPU rather than if you opt for i5 3570k instead i5 2500k.
If one opts goes from hd7870 to hd7950 then he gets ~15% better gaming performance for 9% increase in price.
Whereas if one goes from i5 2500k to i5 3570k then he gets ~5% better cpu performance for ~15% increase in price.
i5 3570k is only a choice if you want the faster quick sync(quick sync with i5 2500k is fast enough though).

^^ This but with one correction -> price of HD7950 is more than 25k now.

Attn!!Customer/Visitor's
Due to latest fluctuation in Forex($). Kindly confirm current pricing/stock for any item before making the payment.

^^ Agree about the fact that OP should opt for 7950 rather than 7870. 7950 in the price bracket of 7870 are stock designs...I'm not sure about their perfromance but still the chip is far more better than that on 78xx series and you'll be future proof for 3 years. Ultimately for gaming once you get beyond 40 to 50 FPS rates, it doesn't matter how much more you get. That matters for benchmarks though.
I dont agree to compare performance-price ratio of a GPU to that of a CPU. At the end of the day its not my 2K to invest in new generation CPU and contribute in evolution process.
@OP - you are the one to decide. And come-on you are getting a rig for 80K right ? + or - 3 to 4k wont matter.

And BTW 7950 is a overclock monster... see my overclock in my singautre. Opt for 7950 even if you see less core frequency than 7870 because it has a superior chip core and many other additional features such as more transistor count. Just check out the specification on AMD site and compare them.

The Twinfrozr version of 7950 by MSI is not available in India I think. Can not find it any where.

mandarpalshikar said:
^^ Agree about the fact that OP should opt for 7950 rather than 7870. 7950 in the price bracket of 7870 are stock designs...I'm not sure about their perfromance but still the chip is far more better than that on 78xx series and you'll be future proof for 3 years. Ultimately for gaming once you get beyond 40 to 50 FPS rates, it doesn't matter how much more you get. That matters for benchmarks though.
I dont agree to compare performance-price ratio of a GPU to that of a CPU. At the end of the day its not my 2K to invest in new generation CPU and contribute in evolution process.
@OP - you are the one to decide. And come-on you are getting a rig for 80K right ? + or - 3 to 4k wont matter.

And BTW 7950 is a overclock monster... see my overclock in my singautre. Opt for 7950 even if you see less core frequency than 7870 because it has a superior chip core and many other additional features such as more transistor count. Just check out the specification on AMD site and compare them.

Which brands' 7950 you will suggest?

^^ Prices of 79xx series have suddenly increased in last 2 days... I mean we were expecting a price drop and now this increase. lol

V

The point here is better gaming performance.When moving from i5 2500k to i5 3570k one won't get better gaming performance as one would get from moving from hd7870 to hd7950.

@ takemein
Check the link in my post.It was 24k at the time I posted.

Would have receommended this -
Asus AMD HD7950-DC2 3 GB GDDR5 Graphics Card | Graphics Card | Flipkart.com

But the price should be at least 2k less. I got it from Flipkart only for 25560. The price they are quoting right now is for TOP edition. All the 7950 on flipkart, primeabgb & theitdepot are above 27k now.

Update -

Pick any cooler... DirectCUII, TwinForzr, IceQ... all are badass.

Ops I missed the link from vkl. Go for it... eyes closed.

vkl said:
@ takemein
Check the link in my post.It is 24k at the time I posted.

mandarpalshikar said:
Update -

Ops I missed the link from vkl. Go for it... eyes closed.

Guys....list price in SMC is not current price. Tht's why they clearly stated "Kindly confirm current pricing/stock for any item before making the payment."

@mandarpalshikar --> BTW ur 3-slot Asus HD7950 is one hell of a MONSTER card lol

mandarpalshikar said:
Would have receommended this -
Asus AMD HD7950-DC2 3 GB GDDR5 Graphics Card | Graphics Card | Flipkart.com

But the price should be at least 2k less. I got it from Flipkart only for 25560. The price they are quoting right now is for TOP edition. All the 7950 on flipkart, primeabgb & theitdepot are above 27k now.

Update -

Pick any cooler... DirectCUII, TwinForzr, IceQ... all are badass.

Ops I missed the link from vkl. Go for it... eyes closed.

The link by vkl has a MSI 7950 with stock cooler(single fan)

lovedonator said:
The link by vkl has a MSI 7950 with stock cooler(single fan)

Yes and the FLipkart link is not a TOP Edition (HD7950-DC2) but sold for 27k.

^^ True. Thats what I am thinking about... but not sure how this stock cooler will perform. Its fan is positioned damn in the middle and not at the back which usually helps cooling with stock coolers by throwing hot air out of the cabinet.
Call SMC and get the current price from them. If its beyond 26k then go for 7870 or wait for some time and hope for some price drop.

@takemein - thx. Will be trying to push core colock beyong 1100MHz tommorrow morning by upping the voltage to 1.2... lets see how the beast responds to it.

mandarpalshikar said:
^^ True. Thats what I am thinking about... but not sure how this stock cooler will perform. Its fan is positioned damn in the middle and not at the back which usually helps cooling with stock coolers by throwing hot air out of the cabinet.
Call SMC and get the current price from them. If its beyond 26k then go for 7870 or wait for some time and hope for some price drop.

@takemein - thx. Will be trying to push core colock beyong 1100MHz tommorrow morning by upping the voltage to 1.2... lets see how the beast responds to it.

I've seen some tests,the stock cooler goes to around 80-85 Celsius on load and that too when they had a room temperature of 22 degree Celsius. God knows what will happen in Indian Summer. No way I'm going for that. Going to order rest of the components and wait for a few days to decide on Graphics Card.

V

^^Even with stock cooler that would overclock past 1000MHz.At such a low price point one won't get custom cooler version cards unless price drops take effect.
80-85 degree Celsius at load is normal.

vkl said:
^^Even with stock cooler that would overclock past 1000MHz.At such a low price point one won't get custom cooler version cards unless price drops take effect.
80-85 degree Celsius at load is normal.

80-85 degree Celsius on a room temperature of 22 degree. I don't have AC in my room and think what will happen in summer when the temperature is more than 45 degrees here. I know at that price point I won't get a custom cooled card. Let me think about it.

lovedonator said:
80-85 degree Celsius on a room temperature of 22 degree. I don't have AC in my room and think what will happen in summer when the temperature is more than 45 degrees here. I know at that price point I won't get a custom cooled card. Let me think about it.

HIS 7950 Fan (Reference) - Roundup 6x Radeon HD 7950 2012 - Tom's Hardware - YouTube
HD7950 reference design acoustic performance LOL

takemein said:
HIS 7950 Fan (Reference) - Roundup 6x Radeon HD 7950 2012 - Tom's Hardware - YouTube
HD7950 reference design acoustic performance LOL

SOB! I am not getting that reference model for sure.

None of the custom cooled 7950s are available anywhere(for the right price) and the price difference of 10k between the 7870 and 7850 is not justifiable for me. I think I'll go with the MSI 7850 Power Edition(for 16K only :-D

) and overclock the s**t out of it and then add one more 7850 in future to my rig.

A

OP please read my post on the last page at the bottom. From what I read, a 670 GTX Amp edition can fit in your budget and there's nothing like it. 60+ fps in all present games @ 1080

Aesir said:
OP please read my post on the last page at the bottom. From what I read, a 670 GTX Amp edition can fit in your budget and there's nothing like it. 60+ fps in all present games @ 1080

It's 33k. I would have to compromise on a lot of other stuff. I know it's super awesome but too expensive.

7850 CF's gonna kick ass

Hold on for a while.. Prices of 7 series will go down.. and FYI.. Dell U2312 prices has increased a lot.. Best VFM TFT is Benq G2420HD @ 10.4k

havoknation said:
Hold on for a while.. Prices of 7 series will go down.. and FYI.. Dell U2312 prices has increased a lot.. Best VFM TFT is Benq G2420HD @ 10.4k

How long I have to wait for the price cut? My hands are itching for shooting some terrorists and my ears are desperate to hear Fus Ro Dah :-D

We are not at all sure about the time period when price cuts will get implemented in India. Infact you can contribute to gamer community in India by buying 7950 or 7970 at the current prices. That way stocks with dealers will get reduced and then they will give a thought to reducing prices.

Go for 7850 as of now... Pair it with another in future

mandarpalshikar said:
We are not at all sure about the time period when price cuts will get implemented in India. Infact you can contribute to gamer community in India by buying 7950 or 7970 at the current prices. That way stocks with dealers will get reduced and then they will give a thought to reducing prices.

I would love to contribute but my budget does not allow that
Yeah,I will stick with 7850 I think.

Hey guys was thinking to order ASUS Maximus V GENE Motherboard | Motherboard | Flipkart.com instead of the P8Z77-M Pro. Better for overclocking and much better sound chipset from the reviews I've read. What say?

you are from MP right why cant you come to Hyderabad,AP and buy because here at Arun Computers,CTC,Secunderabad you can buy the following config at the best possible prices along with PCI WIFI Card for 700 INR.

CPU- Intel Core i5 3570k- 15200
MB- ASRock Z77 Extreme 4- 9500
GPU- Sapphire HD7850 2GB DDR5- 15500
HDD- WD Black 1TB SATA3- 6800
CASE- Corsair 400R- 4000
PSU- Corsair GS600 PSU- 4000
DVD-RW- Asus 24B3ST- 1100
RAM- Corsair Vengeance 8GB 1600 MHz- 3400
MONITOR- Dell 22inch LED - ST2220L- 7900
KB COMBO- Microsoft Sidewinder X6 + Logitech G400 = 1950+1450
COOLER- CM Hyper 212 Evo- 2100
SPEAKERS- Logitech Z313 2.1 Spkrs- 1650
TOTAL- 74350

You can contact Mr.Raghu of Arun Computers on this number:9849457428. CTC stands for Chenoy Trade Center.This is in Secunderabad.Ok.I have bought the exact same rig and I am not facing any issues so far from Mar2012.

bavusani said:
you are from MP right why cant you come to Hyderabad,AP and buy because here at Arun Computers,CTC,Secunderabad you can buy the following config at the best possible prices along with PCI WIFI Card for 700 INR.

CPU- Intel Core i5 3570k- 15200
MB- ASRock Z77 Extreme 4- 9500
GPU- Sapphire HD7850 2GB DDR5- 15500
HDD- WD Black 1TB SATA3- 6800
CASE- Corsair 400R- 4000
PSU- Corsair GS600 PSU- 4000
DVD-RW- Asus 24B3ST- 1100
RAM- Corsair Vengeance 8GB 1600 MHz- 3400
MONITOR- Dell 22inch LED - ST2220L- 7900
KB COMBO- Microsoft Sidewinder X6 + Logitech G400 = 1950+1450
COOLER- CM Hyper 212 Evo- 2100
SPEAKERS- Logitech Z313 2.1 Spkrs- 1650
TOTAL- 74350

You can contact Mr.Raghu of Arun Computers on this number:9849457428. CTC stands for Chenoy Trade Center.This is in Secunderabad.Ok.I have bought the exact same rig and I am not facing any issues so far from Mar2012.

Travelling to Hyderabad and then bringing all the components back from there is quite a task you know.
And aside from the Case and PSU all the other components are almost the same price as online.

lovedonator said:
Hey guys was thinking to order ASUS Maximus V GENE Motherboard | Motherboard | Flipkart.com instead of the P8Z77-M Pro. Better for overclocking and much better sound chipset from the reviews I've read. What say?

take it....one of the best mATX u can find....

Ordered these components from flipkart.

Hunt for the rest of the things is on. :-D

Congrats on the new components.
Put up the complete setup list here,so people can suggest cheaper online prices and you(and we) can also have a checklist of sorts.

Myth said:
Congrats on the new components.
Put up the complete setup list here,so people can suggest cheaper online prices and you(and we) can also have a checklist of sorts.

Thank You.
Here is the list of remaining things-
Power Supply-Corsair GS-600 (Can not find on any of the sites.)
Corsair Carbide 400 R-Will order tomorrow from here CORSAIR CARBIDE CC-400R . Would be glad if I can get a response about the quality of this site as they have only depositing money and cheque as payment option.
MSI Radeon 7850 Power Edition-Will order tomorrow from smcinternational
Microsoft Sidewinder X4- Will order tomorrow from primeabgb
Have not decided on the Monitor and Speaker yet. Suggestions are welcome. Maximum of 14k for both combined.

MD is ok.....if u face any probs....PM me...

sumonpathak said:
MD is ok.....if u face any probs....PM me...

OK..thanks

sumonpathak said:
take it....one of the best mATX u can find....

Absolutely !!!! Using it for 3 months now. It has all the features of normal ATX mobos and plus additional things. Only limiting factor is number of Intel SATA ports is only 4 (2x6gbps & 2x3gbps) but this is expected as its mATX format. You can plug in your optical drives to ASMedia sata ports and use Intel ones for HDDs. (intel 3gbps ports will give more speed than ASMedia 6gbps ports). Plus it has Thunderbolt header as well for future expansion.

mandarpalshikar said:
Absolutely !!!! Using it for 3 months now. It has all the features of normal ATX mobos and plus additional things. Only limiting factor is number of Intel SATA ports is only 4 (2x6gbps & 2x3gbps) but this is expected as its mATX format. You can plug in your optical drives to ASMedia sata ports and use Intel ones for HDDs. (intel 3gbps ports will give more speed than ASMedia 6gbps ports). Plus it has Thunderbolt header as well for future expansion.

Thanks for the info on the ports. Glad to know I made a good choice. :razz:

Guys,I can't decide on the Monitor and Speakers. Please help. Max 12K for 24" inch non 3d monitor and 2k for a 2.1 speaker.(obviously for Gaming)

@ lovedonator

Sapphire AMD/ATI HD 7950 OC Edition 3 GB GDDR5 Graphics Card | Graphics Card | Flipkart.com

Best GPU you can get for 25k now !!!!

^^ +1 for that

takemein said:
@ lovedonator

Sapphire AMD/ATI HD 7950 OC Edition 3 GB GDDR5 Graphics Card | Graphics Card | Flipkart.com

Best GPU you can get for 25k now !!!!

mandarpalshikar said:
^^ +1 for that

Wish I could buy it. But I have Case,PSU,Monitor,Speaker,DVD Drive and Keyboard still to buy. My total will come to around 90K if I buy it :-(

lovedonator said:
Ordered these components from flipkart. View attachment 6604 Hunt for the rest of the things is on.

LOL u Didn't hide ur Email ID

theds@live.com

pratyush997 said:
LOL u Didn't hide ur Email ID

theds@live.com

Didn't need to. My email id is a public contact info. It's on my profile detail here,on facebook,everywhere.

Overpriced mouse man.. cudda gotten it for 1.6k or so

^^ He bought Logitech G400 for 1.4k.. right ? Which one are you pointing to ? Did I miss something ?

sharang.d said:
Overpriced mouse man.. cudda gotten it for 1.6k or so

mandarpalshikar said:
^^ He bought Logitech G400 for 1.4k.. right ? Which one are you pointing to ? Did I miss something ?

I know yaar,it was 1.8k 2 days ago b4 my purchase. Price got raised and it was not available in my local market.

mandarpalshikar said:
^^ He bought Logitech G400 for 1.4k.. right ? Which one are you pointing to ? Did I miss something ?

No man.. he got it for 2,095.
check a few posts above

lovedonator said:
I know yaar,it was 1.8k 2 days ago b4 my purchase. Price got raised and it was not available in my local market.

Ahh well bad luck
After purchase dont think much or u wil be in depression.
I learned it the hard way

G400 is retailing for 2K now. Went shopping Saturday @ Logitech store in E-Mall, Chadni Chawk Kolkata for a G9x. Apparently prices of a lot of components have gone up (again?!).

V

For hd7870 this is a good deal
Sapphire HD 7870 HDMI OC Edition at 20k

sharang.d said:
No man.. he got it for 2,095.
check a few posts above

Ahh well bad luck
After purchase dont think much or u wil be in depression.
I learned it the hard way

I never think about doing things. No regrets. :-D

OK guys,bought the Case(Carbide 400),PSU GS 600 and Speakers(creative Inspire something). Trying to convince my dad to lend me 10k so I can go for the Sapphire 7950. Tell me one thing guys,If I do buy it will the Corsair GS 600 will be enough for the whole rig?

V

^^Corsair GS600 is more than enough for your rig(with a single hd7950).

This thread is so long, takes time to find what your rigs consists of

Put it in your signature.
The 7950 can run on 500w without any OCing.
gs600 is sufficient.
Someone should confirm the power requirement if gpu,cpu are OCed.

V

Even an overclocked hd7950 can be handled by his system specs with a GS500 or any other good PSU.
i5 3570 TDP =77W When overclocked it will draw a bit more.
hd7950 TDP=200W hd7950B=225W When overclocked it will draw more power.
B=boost (after new bios).
For surety you can look at this thread *www.thinkdigit.com/forum/graphic-cards/160142-need-new-graphic-card-20k-25k.html#post1705246
So with GS600 there is no problem at all.

vkl said:
^^Corsair GS600 is more than enough for your rig(with a single hd7950).

Thanks.

Myth said:
This thread is so long, takes time to find what your rigs consists of
Put it in your signature.
The 7950 can run on 500w without any OCing.
gs600 is sufficient.
Someone should confirm the power requirement if gpu,cpu are OCed.

vkl said:
Even an overclocked hd7950 can be handled by his system specs with a GS500 or any other good PSU.
i5 3570 TDP =77W When overclocked it will draw a bit more.
hd7950 TDP=200W hd7950B=225W When overclocked it will draw more power.
B=boost (after new bios).
For surety you can look at this thread *www.thinkdigit.com/forum/graphic-cards/160142-need-new-graphic-card-20k-25k.html#post1705246
So with GS600 there is no problem at all.

OK,thanks both of you. Now let's hope my Dad gives me that extra 10k :-D

I have ordered the Sapphire 7950. YYeeeeessssssss!!!!!! On cloud 9 :hyper:

.OK,all orders are complete now,waiting for the components to arrive. Thank You guys,I would have not purchased such 'Badass"

components for my PC without your suggestions. I fu**ing love you guys. :-D

Hey guys,as far as I understand my motherboard(Asus MaximusV gene) does not have inbuilt WiFi. Please suggest a good WLAN card for enabling WiFi.

And yeah one more thing,Corsair Carbide 400R comes with 3 fans. Do I need to buy more?

Post prices and names of components together please. Would help the readers

Finally how much did you spend?

@lovedonator --> Congrats on ur HD7950 purchase.....Badass card :lol:

....you'll love it.

sharang.d said:
Post prices and names of components together please. Would help the readers
Finally how much did you spend?

Once I receive all the components I'll start a new thread with the configuration and images in the Showoff thread.Spent around 87K

takemein said:
@lovedonator --> Congrats on ur HD7950 purchase.....Badass card ....you'll love it.

Thank You

All thanks to you for pointing it out to me.

@lovedonator - For WLAN you have 3 types of choices

1. Get an Intel mPCIE wifi card ordered from ebay Global Easybuy (its safe... I'ver done it)... will cost you 1.3 + custom/octroi taxe (whcih would be around 300). You can fit this one in the
Combo card you get with MVG and fit it on your mobo itself.
(NEW) Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG mPCIe WiFi Wireless Card (Rs. 1353)

2. Get an interanal PCIE Wi-fi card. Something like the below link. Check at your local retailers.
iBall 150M PCI Wireless Adapter - Lan Card | Network Nic | Flipkart.com

3. Get an USB wifi adapter.
Asus USB-N10 EZ N Network | Usb Adaptor | Flipkart.com

And yes... that 7950 is really really badass.

mandarpalshikar said:
@lovedonator - For WLAN you have 3 types of choices

1. Get an Intel mPCIE wifi card ordered from ebay Global Easybuy (its safe... I'ver done it)... will cost you 1.3 + custom/octroi taxe (whcih would be around 300). You can fit this one in the
Combo card you get with MVG and fit it on your mobo itself.
(NEW) Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG mPCIe WiFi Wireless Card (Rs. 1353)

2. Get an interanal PCIE Wi-fi card. Something like the below link. Check at your local retailers.
iBall 150M PCI Wireless Adapter - Lan Card | Network Nic | Flipkart.com

3. Get an USB wifi adapter.
Asus USB-N10 EZ N Network | Usb Adaptor | Flipkart.com

And yes... that 7950 is really really badass.

Tahnks