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iatb.gourav
iatb.gourav Original post #1
Mar 27, 2008 at 7:18 PM
Hello friends .

I know that a similar topic was discussed recently but I couldn't really get any conclusions from there.

Well, I'd like a "All-in-one" kind of a phone.
I mean, good camera, good music, descent looks and blah blah blah ...

I was thinking of W810i but just wanted to know if there is a better option...

Thanks in advance,
Gourav.
PCWORM
PCWORM #2
Mar 27, 2008 at 7:48 PM
N91,W580i
ring_wraith
Mar 27, 2008 at 8:07 PM
w810i. Officially not available, but best of luck finding a better all-in-one phone.
iatb.gourav
Mar 27, 2008 at 8:40 PM
I guess n91 is too "big" a phone to use. Better keep it aside.

Anyways, how about the Nokia-5610 ???
Does it compete with W810i ???
utsav
utsav #5
Mar 27, 2008 at 8:44 PM
5610 looks cool and has a solid built quality .everything else is bogus :razz:
iatb.gourav
Mar 27, 2008 at 9:02 PM
5610 looks cool and has a solid built quality .everything else is bogus :razz:

but it does boast a 3.2 mp camera.
810i has only a 2mp camera.

And personally I think that the only drawback in 5610 is that it has S 40 user interface.
dreamcatcher
Mar 27, 2008 at 9:09 PM
the 5610's cam like all other nokia music phones is crap...i suggest go for the w580 or the k810..awesum cam..good sound quality and looks cool too...
mayanksharma
Mar 27, 2008 at 11:59 PM
U said Best Buy - 12K ! Right?
IMO, there could be no best option than going for a Nokia N73 ME !! Awesome in every sense. I wonder, why no one has recommended it yet??
iatb.gourav
Mar 28, 2008 at 8:04 AM
U said Best Buy - 12K ! Right?
IMO, there could be no best option than going for a Nokia N73 ME !! Awesome in every sense. I wonder, why no one has recommended it yet??

Perhaps you are right !!!

It has a 3.2 mp camera. But is the pics taken better than the 2 mp camera of W810i ??? I dunno.
And what about its music ablilities ?

Can anyone give a clearer comparison of N73 ME & SE W810i ???
C
Mar 28, 2008 at 12:35 PM
IMO w580 has all you are looking for
cam is 2 mega pix but still decent
it look is awesome
*www.sonyericsson.com/cws/products/mobilephones/overview/w580i?cc=us&lc=en
never get n73. it is too slow phone
iatb.gourav
Mar 28, 2008 at 2:12 PM
Well, w580 has a major disadvantage. It does not notify missed calls. Wont that create a lot of problems ??

And then, I have no idea about the camera of w580. Though 2 mp, it lacks auto focus. I dont think it'll give better pics than w810i.

Any reason how w580 is better than w810i ???

1 more thing,
Can anyone tell me if they still give the "speakers" bundled with w810i ???
utsav
utsav #12
Mar 28, 2008 at 2:20 PM
I bought the n73 me 2 days back and i can clearly say that its camera is best in class and has great music capabilities. the new firmware has made it much faster than before
dont hear the crap what this amd64 is saying .his love towards sony has made him blind and he cannot see the plus points of nokia. go for n73 me. you will never regret because nokia has lots to offer to this phone in the next few months. again i want to say amd64 sudhar jao aur sony ke bahar bhi bahut badi duniya hai.
dreamcatcher
Mar 28, 2008 at 3:56 PM
^^^^^oye..xcuse me.....i change phones evry 6 motnhs and the last phone i had was a nokia..the 5700 xpressmusic..the n73 was available then..but my bro has the phone and well..use it for a few days or so..had more than 7 phones yet including samsung and sony..

newaz i dont need to xplain urself to guys like u..btw nokia music phones mean-xpressmusic series nt the n series..soo get ur spellings rite..

threadstarter-depends on what u want..if u want symbian,opt for n73..if u want good cam and music go for the k810..use xs++ to mod the drivers and u will know what i mean when it comes to quality...dont worry..modding doesnt harm warranty as said so..i have had my modded phones repaired frm the SE stations..
utsav
utsav #14
Mar 28, 2008 at 4:28 PM
NOt again man. u mean nokia is gud for just symbian? u may have had got many cell phones but i am not behing last year i changed three phones and this one is my fifth. i have been using cell phones from 5 year back when very few people used to have cell phones and i am just 18.5 years old now. i also dont like to explain people abt myself but some people require this. :razz:
dreamcatcher
Mar 28, 2008 at 4:45 PM
u r 18.5 and i m 19..born 1989..lol

well..if u take away the os from nkia..it becomes a feature phone..and pray show me a feature phone which is better than that of SE...
girish.g
girish.g #16
Mar 28, 2008 at 8:03 PM
well..if u take away the os from nkia..it becomes a feature phone..and pray show me a feature phone which is better than that of SE...
nice one amd. you wont get any answers as there is none. even motorola is better than nokia if you strip down the os.
back on topic k790i is the best option
Cool G5
Cool G5 #17
Mar 28, 2008 at 8:44 PM
+1 for N73
krazzy
krazzy #18
Mar 28, 2008 at 9:45 PM
utsav don't try showing amd the "SE ke bahar ki duniya". You'll fail everytime. He's way too stubborn and won't listen to you. I've grown old to the point of having gray hair and wrinkles trying to do that. Instead you can try to teach a pig to fly. I'm sure you'll be more successful at that.
dreamcatcher
Mar 28, 2008 at 9:59 PM
well..my "SE ka duniya" included a nokia 5700, a nokia 6670 and an n93(bro)...well..no point teaching u gys...peaple who call me an SE fanatic are nokia fanatic themselves but call themselves otherwise
krazzy
krazzy #20
Mar 28, 2008 at 10:26 PM
Honestly amd nobody here cares if you are a SE fan, a Moto fan or for that matter Siemens fan. Its only that you constantly badmouth Nokia which gets you on everybody's nerves all the time. I mean, do you hear any of us doing that? You used a few Nokias and a few SE's and you made a general conclusion based upon your usage that Nokia sucks while SE rocks. Give me a break!

Even I have a W710i and used quite a few other SE's. They all have their share of faults. But you don't hear me making monologues of how SE sucks.
My W710i has enough flaws for me to never buy another SE again or would even advice others to stay away from it, i.e. if I were you.
But I ain't doing that. Anyways forget it. You won't change.
dreamcatcher
Mar 28, 2008 at 11:49 PM
oh really??..pray show me a post which defies any logic about nokia..i only comment on phones i have used..rather than blabbering on every other phone used at the dealer's...gimme a break and get a life...
rohan_mhtr
Mar 29, 2008 at 12:48 AM
i only comment on phones i have used..rather than blabbering on every other phone used at the dealer's...gimme a break and get a life...

Hey amd , these were exactly the same lines i said to you some days back on another thread *www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=83079&page=4 and just read what you had to say back then ,
and again we all have to repeat that the threadstarter just wants our help in deciding some particular phone available in his budget , he is certainly not interested in any of your personal likings . You are only praising sony and sabotaging every other brand by posting crap imformation about it . I am repeating again that i am not againts sony , and if nokia was really that bad then why is it the leading mobile selling brand in india .
Again +1 for n73 way better than w810 and slightly better then k790
w580 is allso good for the features it provides but better get n73 me , it is the best buy at this budget and also future proof .
utsav
utsav #23
Mar 29, 2008 at 2:25 AM
@amd u dont need a life as i can clearly assume you are dead.
krazzy
krazzy #24
Mar 29, 2008 at 10:05 AM
You comment only on phones that you use? Yeah right, I believe you!:rolleyes: You've disgraced nearly every Nokia phone that you've come across whether you've used them or not, while when it comes to SE, you're ready to sing its praises even when you haven't even touches the phone like in case of W960i or W890i. You sort of instinctively know that they are going to be fantastic right from the day they're launched and you're ready to recommend them to anyone who listens to you. While most Nokia phones are labelled crap as soon as they're launched. As I said, there's no sense talking to you. I might as well have a more meaningful conversation with a brick wall.
dreamcatcher
Mar 29, 2008 at 1:12 PM
cool..i havent touched the w890...i agree..but who gave u this damn idea that i havent used the w960??? :O

and wait...if u chk my posts..i have commented on the sleekness of the w890..its 10mm thick and has great features...and walkman sound quality..u dont need to use a phone to kno that...

for ur kind info..i have a posh group of firends..evruy other phone that comes out is in their hands in no time...i m sorry if u dont..but cant be helped...and if u dont believe me..nothing i can do....

@utsav-please book a ticket to agra..the mental asylum has been shifted there..


and fact of the matter is..watevr i posted..i never had any problem with whatever u guys posted..but theres always a bunch of frustrated-nothing-to-do kinda peaple..cant be helped...

@threadstarter...damn sorry for evrything thts been going on here...i stick to my recommendation..if u dont agree,please buy the phone and check for urself..i wont be posting again...
iatb.gourav
Mar 29, 2008 at 10:07 PM
Halt guys !!!
You shouldn't be fighting among yourselves. We all have right to express ourselves. Right ???

Anyways, coming back to the topic, I have figured out that at least I am not going to buy a Nokia phone. And there is no "good" Motorola option in my budget. So, probably its going to be Sony Ericsson.

I was strongly thinking for W810i but it's a bit old now.
And then w580 is perhaps better than that.

Today I also saw k810i. Liked it. I'll try to increase my budget if it is "value for money" phone. What do u guys say ???

Any other suggestions are welcome.
rohan_mhtr
Mar 30, 2008 at 3:21 PM
You should buy k790 instead of k810 since there is not much difference between the two but again n73 me is the better phone and suits best for your budget, anyone who comments bad about n73 has surely never used it. If you want to stick to sony then k790 will do no need to put extra cash on k810 .
yogi7272
yogi7272 #28
Mar 30, 2008 at 5:53 PM
n73me ... no doubt about it .. used n73me as well as k790i and k750i .. now n73 cam is ofcourse better than k750i/w810i ..

between k790i and n73me..for daytime shots, n73 is better and k790i is better in nightshots because of xenon flash .. music playback of n73me is very good through headset ( read, creative ep630 as well as motorola s9 bluetooth headset) and through speakers as well ..

the thing with k750i /k790i is, u get bored with these phones very quickly .. just music and camera ..no third party software support ..hence i prefer n73me over k790i ..

and ofcouse symbian os .. n73me all the way .

@amd64_man2005- do u work for se anyway?
girish.g
girish.g #29
Mar 30, 2008 at 5:57 PM
hey yogi
do you have s9 headset
yogi7272
yogi7272 #30
Mar 30, 2008 at 6:00 PM
het yogi
do you have s9 headset

i have it .. used it with n73me .. now using it with n82 .. works flawlessly ..but dont expect it to perform like ep630 ..it do sound pretty ok.and main usp is convenience ..no wires etc ..
girish.g
girish.g #31
Mar 30, 2008 at 6:01 PM
did you use it with your k790i. i want to buy one to use it with my k790i. please tell me the price too.
is the sound quality better than hpm-70
yogi7272
yogi7272 #32
Mar 30, 2008 at 6:12 PM
did you use it with your k790i. i want to buy one to use it with my k790i. please tell me the price too.
is the sound quality better than hpm-70

at that time , i did not have s9 .. but i think k790i supports A2DP .. so it will work with k790i .. sound quality will be bit lower hpm 70 .. i will advise u to check it urself before buying .. i got it without bill for 2.2k .. now u can have it for maybe 1.7k or something without bill ..
rohan_mhtr
Mar 30, 2008 at 6:22 PM
Today I also saw k810i. Liked it. I'll try to increase my budget if it is "value for money" phone. What do u guys say ???
And didn't I mention that k810 does not support a2dp:(:(

i got it without bill for 2.2k .. now u can have it for maybe 1.7k or something without bill ..
For 2.2k i think those are the fake ones , does they have volume buttons or keys for skipping tracks on them ? I got new s9 for 3.2k with bill and i am using it with n91 and they are loud enough and as good as ep-630 .
yogi7272
yogi7272 #34
Mar 30, 2008 at 7:16 PM
surely not fake ..have volume , mute , call etc ..buttons.. got it from a box packed moto rokr box .. so i guess its org.one .. and i personally find ep630 better than s9.. used it with n73me and n82 though ..
utsav
utsav #35
Mar 30, 2008 at 7:25 PM
@utsav-please book a ticket to agra..the mental asylum has been shifted there..
oh i didnt knew that.i think you went there some days back. If you want i can send to you and your posh group of friends ,tickets to agra so that you can go there for your routine checkup for free.

have you found me passing rude comments in this thread. Its you who is doing that ,frustrated. Its a public forum so everyone needs to be decent here but i think you dont know this thats y u r passing your crap nature here.LOST AND FRUSTRATED.
girish.g
girish.g #36
Mar 30, 2008 at 7:45 PM
And didn't I mention that k810 does not support a2dp:(:(
who told you k810 doesnt have a2dp. k790i and k810 both have a2dp
@utsav
chill dude. fanboys always react this way.
utsav
utsav #37
Mar 30, 2008 at 8:04 PM
Itni garmi mein chill kaise karu yaar :razz:
djmykey
djmykey #38
Mar 30, 2008 at 8:06 PM
Ok I was in the same fix sometime back. But I decided and bought the Nokia 5610. According to me it was the best fone then and will be the best fone for me. I dun need or use the snazzy features some of u ppl might b depending upon. I will try to write down my conclusions for you, its upto you. Believe me I was looking at SE for a good fone but nothing in the 10-13k dept was worth.
I went to the shop for buying a SE but got this phone instead.
So here r my conclusions: -

Nokia
N73 = Symbian (Will get slow after some months of use)
5700 = No twisting parts for me.
5310 = Too flat for me.
6500 = Didn't come out was waiting for this one, thank god got the 5610

Sony Ericsson
W660i = No auto focus
W610i = Weird buttons
W580i = No auto focus (and my boss got this phone)
K810i = Weird buttons
K790i = Almost went for this one but backed out at the last moment, because of the cam shutter protruding out of the back of the phone.

Now its not that the 5610 is a kick ass fone but here are some of its features
EDGE, 3G (none of the sub 12k fones have this), 3.2Mpix cam with autofocus,
OS4 (No symbian :)), Dual cam (Didn't know this even after buying the cam),
Cool display, Gives me 6 days of standby time (I dun get calls at all :lol:), dedicated camera button + you dun need to open any shutter or the phone to click

Cons: - Crappy headphones, weird battery cover, doesn't charge through USB connector, has 512MB card bundled, 1 GB wud've been welcome.

Am not a fanboy of Nokia or SE am just helping a fellow member. Any bashings will be taken seriously (am kiddin :lol:)
utsav
utsav #41
Mar 30, 2008 at 10:20 PM
@djmykey i have several apps installed on my n73 me and the memory is 1.7GB filled up but then too its fast . the new firmware for n73 did the trick. Earlier n73 was launched ,it used to take 7 seconds to save a captured image but it takes only 3 seconds to save it. Great improvement imo .
Cool G5
Cool G5 #42
Mar 30, 2008 at 10:37 PM
@djmkey - Congrats on your purchase.
I am glad that you purchased the phone as per your needs. :)
Enjoy the phone.
djmykey
djmykey #43
Mar 30, 2008 at 10:45 PM
@djmykey i have several apps installed on my n73 me and the memory is 1.7GB filled up but then too its fast . the new firmware for n73 did the trick. Earlier n73 was launched ,it used to take 7 seconds to save a captured image but it takes only 3 seconds to save it. Great improvement imo .

Dude if it works for you then I'm happy for ya man :) there is a colleague in my office who has a N73ME and it hangs like anything. The poor guy has to reboot the mobile every now and then am not sure if it is related to his phone only but Symbian phones are more or less like Windows, the longer you dun format the more time it takes to load


@djmkey - Congrats on your purchase. I am glad that you purchased the phone as per your needs. Enjoy the phone.

Thanks :D
krazzy
krazzy #44
Mar 30, 2008 at 11:25 PM
The loss in speed is because people sometimes tend to keep apps running in the background. This takes its toll on the performance and when the RAM gets choked the phone crashes. Its a good practice to check whats running in the background by pressing and holding the menu key to bring up the list of running apps. Also upgrade to the latest firmware as soon as possible. People often tend to stick on the older firmwares and then complain about problems which are usually solved in the already available firmware update. For example one of my friend still has his N95 on the v12 firmware and he complains about the key press bug!
mayanksharma
Mar 30, 2008 at 11:31 PM
music playback of n73me is very good through headset ( read, creative ep630 as well as motorola s9 bluetooth headset) and through speakers as well ..
hmm..A2DP! Which N73 firmware??
utsav
utsav #46
Mar 31, 2008 at 12:40 AM
@krazyfrog +1 the apps running in background r the main reason for hanging of smartphones
djmykey
djmykey #47
Mar 31, 2008 at 7:25 AM
@krazyfrog. - Very true indeed. Most of the ppl do not know how to use Symbian fones and end all applications with the End Call button, which doesn't terminate the app but just puts it in the background. Now this is something that I have witnessed. But still man (based on my exp with my N6600) the fone does hang or freeze at random times for no specific reasons.
krazzy
krazzy #48
Mar 31, 2008 at 7:48 AM
6600 had a very slow processor. That phone was slow even without any memory card inserted and without any apps running in the background. Infact the N-Gage QD that I had was much faster than that. Unfortunately 6600 was also very popular. Many people had their first taste of smartphones and Symbian with 6600. Hence they made the general conclusion that Symbian smartphones are slow. And even today in the day and age of phones like 5700 and E51, people still think Symbian phones are slow.
yogi7272
yogi7272 #49
Mar 31, 2008 at 10:01 AM
hmm..A2DP! Which N73 firmware??

dude ..u were sleeping kya ? ver 4 firmware

people those think symbian phones are slow .. pls try ur hands at n82 and then say so ..
mayanksharma
Mar 31, 2008 at 10:10 PM
dude ..u were sleeping kya ? ver 4 firmware
Hey look man. Nobody was sleeping while posting all this. So, u better watch ur words. Better dont answer to queries, if u cant do it with manners.
Regarding the post, there are number of firmware versions starting with 4. I asked becoz, i dont know which one exactly.
Is it Version 4.0723.2.0.1?
krazzy
krazzy #51
Mar 31, 2008 at 10:40 PM
A2DP was introduced in v4. So no matter which version it is, if it starts with 4, it'll have A2DP. BTW v4 was introduced quite a while ago. If you don't have it yet, your phone's running a pretty outdated software.
mayanksharma
Mar 31, 2008 at 10:46 PM
Version 4.0723.2.0.1 was the first. Nope, i dont have it. Didnt know about it. Thanks!
Though, i never experienced any lockups or performance degrades with V3.0638.0.0.30 that came stock. But as V4.XXXX contains A2DP support, i might think of upgrading now. :p
iatb.gourav
Apr 1, 2008 at 6:10 PM
So much of fuss about A2DP !!! Can anyone tell me what are they ??? (Sorry I am quite a newbie at these things).

And I'll be buying my cell within the next 2 days. So I need to make up my mind.

I am strongly inclined toward N73 ME .
Only 1 doubt, how is its camera quality ????
mayanksharma
Apr 1, 2008 at 11:29 PM
So much of fuss about A2DP !!! Can anyone tell me what are they ??? (Sorry I am quite a newbie at these things).
And I'll be buying my cell within the next 2 days. So I need to make up my mind.
I am strongly inclined toward N73 ME .
Only 1 doubt, how is its camera quality ????
A2DP stands for Advanced Audio Distribution Profile. The feature is embedded into most of the latest mobiles and PDAs! The feature benefits of streaming audio using Bluetooth over enabled devices. Stereo actually! :p
I came to know about this after i got Rokr E6! Didnt know that latest N73 firmware supports it. Quite an interesting fuss!
Anyways, N73ME is still quite appealing phone. This is becoz of its power packed features. From Carl Zeiss 3.2MP lens to excellent stereo speakers or 3G capability to Ngage platform profile. Its nice. Just check the reviews man. Its all good with that price tag. Excellent VFM phone. Regarding, Camera, i found it excellent during daytime usage. Though, in night the camera screams for a Xenon Flash. But that shouldnt bother u much. Typical video recording. So, go for it.
Offtopic,
How much is N93i btw??
A
acewin #56
Apr 2, 2008 at 8:57 AM
usage can make anything slow. This is true for everything. Format the device and you will find it comes back to normal, thats what I will say for N73 ME slowness, though people who say it didnt got slow is because they are with it for long any depreciation is linear and not quadratic or even cubic.

Heehe, but to any sony lovers joystick in a Sony phone sucks like anything.
+1 for N73 ME for under 12 or 13K budget (as its priced 13K not 12K)
iatb.gourav
Apr 2, 2008 at 12:02 PM
Well, my original budget was 10k but i extended it to 12k.
to buy n73 me i'll have to further extend 1.5k.

btw, i am also getting moto e6 for about 10k.
any suggestions about it ?
iatb.gourav
Apr 7, 2008 at 8:30 PM
Guys ... listen.
1st am am reallly sorry for bothering you all again.

Well, i wont be able to buy my phone until this 27th (Due to my engineering entrance exams).

But I sure will get my phone on the 28th April.

So, I guess I have a little more time to ponder upon.

And I am even ready to increase my budget upto 15K if required.

Please tell me sum good options ...
User Name
User Name #59
Apr 7, 2008 at 9:00 PM
Go for rokr Z6 supports A2DP
*www.gsmarena.com/motorola_rokr_z6-1825.php
iatb.gourav
Apr 7, 2008 at 9:57 PM
Go for rokr Z6 supports A2DP
*www.gsmarena.com/motorola_rokr_z6-1825.php

well, currently I am using Z3.
so there's no question of going to Z6 as the both are quite similar !!!

why would i spend so much on the getting almost the same phone which i am using now???