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Best Diesel Hatch - suggest

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PurusH
PurusH Original post #1
Jan 31, 2012 at 3:00 PM
Some one suggest me if I need to go for Swift VDI or Polo TDI ?
Which will be better in terms of ride, handling, mileage and maintenance ?
utkarsh73
Feb 8, 2012 at 9:15 PM
Test drive a Ford Figo TDCi titanium. It has got the best handling, equal mileage, better performance in city driving. Best part is you will get the top-of-the-line model for a price less than Swift Vdi. But let me tell you, worst part is that in some cities their service centre will make you cry your eyes out. Not every service centre. In my city it is very good. If that part is solved then you will absolutely love the car.
Tenida
Tenida #3
Feb 8, 2012 at 9:25 PM
Also test drive new Suzuki Swift VDi and Chevrolet Beat Diesel.
A
animax #4
Feb 19, 2012 at 3:00 PM
Has any1 driven Swift diesel, whats the avg like?
TheLetterD
Feb 21, 2012 at 7:16 PM
Also Consider the Skoda Fabia
AND just so you know after Honda releases its first diesel car in India ( The New Civic, mid 2012) expect the Honda Jazz Diesel version early next year! :)
tkin
tkin #6
Feb 21, 2012 at 8:22 PM
My vote goes for Beat Diesel, love that front grill.
Blue Ripazah
Feb 21, 2012 at 8:29 PM
^^ +1 for beat ...but if ur budget allows than swift vdi is the best...polo is also good but handling is poor as compared to swift..i currently drive swift vdi ..hv driven polo also but not upto the mark swift gives a turbo boost after u touch rpm of 2300...love that pull
PurusH
PurusH #8
Feb 23, 2012 at 2:46 PM
Test drive a Ford Figo TDCi titanium. It has got the best handling, equal mileage, better performance in city driving. Best part is you will get the top-of-the-line model for a price less than Swift Vdi. But let me tell you, worst part is that in some cities their service centre will make you cry your eyes out. Not every service centre. In my city it is very good. If that part is solved then you will absolutely love the car.

I did not consider Figo as the looks are outdated. The car has good value for money with great features, good space, handling etc. Ford service is not issue in Bangalore. But still not made up mind on this. Will go for test drive before test driving Swift and polo. But swift VDI waiting period is 8months in Bangalore:-x

Also test drive new Suzuki Swift VDi and Chevrolet Beat Diesel.

Swift Test drives are ZDi and ZXi's which has ABS, EBD, Brake Assist etc., so does not get to feel the brakes of VDi which has lot of complaints in Automobile forums, now VDi does not have ABS as option. Beat has got very small engine, just 1 liter and has only 3 cylinders. This may not be good for highways as lot of stress would be on engine and we do not get that smoothness.

^^ +1 for beat ...but if ur budget allows than swift vdi is the best...polo is also good but handling is poor as compared to swift..i currently drive swift vdi ..hv driven polo also but not upto the mark swift gives a turbo boost after u touch rpm of 2300...love that pull

yeah, that turbo kick from Old Swift Diesel is amazing, but in new swift, that feeling is very less. Also the brakes in new Swift VDi & LDi is pathetic and it is not like old swift's breaks. ZDi has ABS and the brakes is some what good. Hence looking at booking period and poor brakes in VDi, would love to go for Polo though Polo is too pricey and does not have good VFM:-?
Blue Ripazah
Feb 23, 2012 at 2:56 PM
what about i20 diesel looks good and has a powerful engine too with awesome interiors...you wont regret it
tkin
tkin #10
Feb 23, 2012 at 6:57 PM
what about i20 diesel looks good and has a powerful engine too with awesome interiors...you wont regret it
What about the Steering Rattle that I was seeing in teambhp forums?
Blue Ripazah
Feb 23, 2012 at 7:15 PM
What about the Steering Rattle that I was seeing in teambhp forums?

One of my friend is having i20 its steering control is gud.
Tenida
Tenida #13
Feb 23, 2012 at 7:27 PM
Beat and Swift are fuel efficient car.I like beat more though.Its arguably best looking hatchback in my opinion.
Blue Ripazah
Feb 23, 2012 at 10:23 PM
^^ +1 for beat but only if budget is low else no match for swift ... But accordin to my experience i will say no to polo.its maintence is like hell u pay a minimum of 10000 rs for one service ...but handling is good
tkin
tkin #15
Feb 24, 2012 at 12:32 AM
Does Nissan Micra has a diesel variant? Just asking, not advising.
Tenida
Tenida #16
Feb 24, 2012 at 12:33 AM
Does Nissan Micra has a diesel variant? Just asking, not advising.

Yes.
Nissan Micra Diesel, Review, Price, Nissan Cars India, Comparison, Images, Variants
tkin
tkin #17
Feb 24, 2012 at 1:03 AM
^^ Any idea about performance?
Tenida
Tenida #18
Feb 24, 2012 at 1:13 AM
No idea.But all major manufacturer uses same 3/4 cylinder Fiat diesel engine.Its like corsair and seasonic.

JTD engine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Check mainly 1.3l segment.
vickybat
vickybat #19
Feb 24, 2012 at 1:35 AM
The newly launched renault pulse is also a worthy option imo.
utkarsh73
utkarsh73 #20
Feb 24, 2012 at 1:38 PM
Beat's engine is very small(3 cylinder) and its not spacious. Seriously cramped at the back seat.
You r not satisfied by the brakes of Swift Vdi and Zdi.
Polo is pricey and not VFM and got a 3 cylinder engine.
You can consider Micra but I don't like its engine.
Now you are left with : i20, Punto, Figo.
Punto is a pleasure to drive and has the same multijet engine of swift but its costly too.
i20 is very costly, especially diesel ones.
Figo suits you best IMHO. Except its looks(I like it though;-)), everything is very good. its engine is more refined than the swift's and more drivable in city and highways without any turbo lag.
You can also try Ritz Vdi if you like(or rather don't hate) its back door design.
A
Feb 29, 2012 at 4:40 PM
best one in the market is swift
but for diesel version, have to wait atleast 7 months.

so accoding to me its polo the best1.
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suresh123 #22
Mar 3, 2012 at 5:47 PM
My vote will go with maruti swift because it is the most reliable company in India and as we all know swift is dominating the market from many years.So i would suggest you to go for swift.
tkin
tkin #23
Mar 3, 2012 at 11:43 PM
Have anyone seen the new renault cars? Sexyyyy.
Blue Ripazah
Mar 4, 2012 at 12:38 AM
Have anyone seen the new renault cars? Sexyyyy.

are you talking about the renault pulse ???
i didnt like the looks the exterior is somewhat like micra and the interiors are a bit girly and especially the door opening handle from inner side
it can be considered for girls though
tkin
tkin #25
Mar 4, 2012 at 12:42 AM
are you talking about the renault pulse ???
i didnt like the looks the exterior is somewhat like micra and the interiors are a bit girly and especially the door opening handle from inner side
it can be considered for girls though
Dunno, pulse looks good to me, but koleos and duster both looks good, specially koleos.

Back to hatch, like the pulse, but guess Swift does carry maruti's reliability and the engine is pretty good too.

My fav still remains the Beat though :mrgreen:
Blue Ripazah
Mar 4, 2012 at 12:52 AM
Dunno, pulse looks good to me, but koleos and duster both looks good, specially koleos.

Back to hatch, like the pulse, but guess Swift does carry maruti's reliability and the engine is pretty good too.

My fav still remains the Beat though :mrgreen:

same here i also love beat but i already own a swift diesel so no match for this beauty specially the turbo kick ... i advise you to go for a test drive of swift diesel ...i bet you will fall in love
tkin
tkin #27
Mar 4, 2012 at 12:57 AM
same here i also love beat but i already own a swift diesel so no match for this beauty specially the turbo kick ... i advise you to go for a test drive of swift diesel ...i bet you will fall in love
Gonna book a TD soon, I drive a K10 now :| small little devil :-?
Choto Cheeta
Mar 9, 2012 at 1:45 AM
Whats wrong with the Fiat Punto ??

My friend owns one, compare to any of the models mentioned here, I find it best in terms of Space and ride quality (suspension feels far far better than any other hatch)..

yes though he seems never happy to take to service :p but as a car i love the driving feeling of this one :)
aroraanant
Mar 11, 2012 at 3:33 PM
Even I suggest you to have a look at punto.Its a great car.
And also check out Fabia and i20.
PurusH
PurusH #31
Mar 29, 2012 at 3:20 PM
Even I suggest you to have a look at punto.Its a great car.
And also check out Fabia and i20.

Punto is great car with excellent handling and great space inside. But the after market service is not good and has lot of issues. Fabia quality is good, premium service costs more like polo.

i20 - I am thinking to cancell swift booking and go for new 2012 iGen i20. It has Rain sensing wipers, auto headlamp, rear parking camera in view mirror. Auto folding and heater in rear mirror. Tilt and telescopic sterring and all these in a b+ segment hatch :-o

Also there is no price increase for new iGen i20

what about i20 diesel looks good and has a powerful engine too with awesome interiors...you wont regret it

Yeah ! The new iGen i20 with fluidic design and new features makes me to cancel swift booking. Hope poor AC and Steering Rattle in old i20 has been addressed in new i20. Diesel Mileage 21.9kmpl as per ARAI !
A
May 23, 2012 at 2:11 PM
both are good hatchback cars.



swift has resale value and u have to wait at least 6 months

where polo lacks resale value.
Professor X
Jun 5, 2012 at 7:31 PM
Polo, a total quality product by volkswagen group.
Ronnie11
Ronnie11 #34
Jun 5, 2012 at 11:23 PM
i happened to have test driven the i20 diesel(asked for petrol but got diesel instead) & its brilliant...good engine..good response etc...about the AC prob..i noticed the AC performance to have improved substantially in the diesel i20...didn't see the petrol one but definitely better than the older i20 in terms of cooling...
R
Jun 9, 2012 at 9:09 PM
Volkswagen polo is fuel efficient car but compared to swift it is costly car and figo is also good money saver swift is not good at its road grip too i prefer you polo and ford figo
aroraanant
Jun 10, 2012 at 4:15 AM
Even I will take a diesel hatchback in sometime, in 1-6months, whenever a good scheme comes.
May be I will trade in my Palio Stile Top Model for a Punto in future.
But I am very much fascinated by i20 and fabia.
Though Swift, Figo and Polo are also quite good.But ford cars require a lot of maintenance, and swift very common and old now.
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techkens #37
Jun 12, 2012 at 5:30 PM
polo tdi of volkswagen company is the best car to buy, it has fully electrical controls with high power engine and good fuel efficient vehicle it is available in both petrol and diesel versions so polo is the best one in my view.
swiftshashi
Jun 22, 2012 at 12:15 AM
Go for Swift VDi(recommended is ZDi for safety and better brakes).It has almost everything you can ask for.
papul1993
papul1993 #39
Jun 22, 2012 at 1:38 AM
The new i20. I think it has reverse camera. Awesome and much needed feature.
PurusH
PurusH #40
Jul 2, 2012 at 2:33 PM
After Starting this thread almost 7 months ago, I researched many cars and was arranging for Finance.

On 28th June'12, I brought Ford Figo Diesel Car, its Red sporty colour. It was a very tough decision to go through various models and make a selection. And finally, considering various aspects, opinions, needs, cost, suitability, I decided to go for Figo (Figo means "cool" in Italian) Here's my purchase experience -


I reviewed other cars like Volkswagen Polo, which has excellect looks, but has 1200 CC engine with 3 cylinders (should have 4 cylinders for mileage, pickup, less noise & vibrations) priced high with premium. The rear seat is like a bench with less comfort and more over, maintenance cost is too high. Nissan Micra also has 3 pot engine 1400 cc and looks are a bit femine with least power. Cherverlet Beat was too small car with 1000CC engine and was not up to the mark. Fiat Puto's handling & looks are good, the same engine which runs Maruti Swift (Maruti buy diesel engine from Fiat) Fiat's service network is very lean and poor and maintance is also high. We do not know, when will Fiat will windup the operations in India.


The left over models were Hyundai i20, Swift and Ford Figo. i20 came with a face lift, minor changes in head lights and added great features in Sportz model like Rain sensing wipers, rear parking camera, electro chromic mirror(the mirror will dim when there is a car at out back in night drives), ABS, only driver side Airbag, Electric folding mirrors, Great upmarket interiors, but all these come at a price - 8.6L which is too high for a hatch back car. Maintenace cost is hight and bookings for 1 month, So ignored


Suzuki Swift my favourite, thought the engine is from Fiat, they have tuned to get more mileage, 18-19kms in city, 23-24kms in highway, good interiors for Rs.7.33L The facelift was in Aug 2011 and feels fresh. The service network is huge and you find them in all small towns, maintenance is too low. What else Indians want when they get great mileage and low cost of maintenance? Also, to get Swift, we need to wait for 2 months, so much is the bookings. It also has serious Braking issues, which made me to take a step behind. When on bumper to bumper traffic and if you are pressing half clutch and try Braking 2-3 times, the 4th time, the brakes become hard and will not apply. The engine will not pump enough vaccume to brake boosters during half clutch. In that case, you have to press clutch fully to get brakes effective.


Then left over was Ford Figo. Earlier, prior to Figo launch in 2010, Ford was to be a premium car company in India with high priced cars and high maintenance and this led to their decreased sales and hence Figo was introduced with less cost of ownership and less maintenance experience. This was a hit and sold 80K cars in a year and bagged more than 20 awards. Reason: Value for Money, Good Road Behaviour, Handling, Good Space Management, Great Fiesta Engine and low maintenance cost. The high end model costs Rs.7.32L which is same price as Swift's. But what I get over(more than) the Swift is - Driverside and Passengerside Air Bags, ABS-Anti lock Braking System, EBD-Electronic Brake Distribution, Alloy Wheels, Electric Mirrors, Tilt Steering, Nice 4 speaker Audio System with Bluetooth for Phone, Rear Defogger, Rear Wiper, Parking Sensors with length display, Leather Seats, Big Boot(dicky) More Comfort and leg space for rear passengers(looks wide as in a Sedan), A very chill 170CC compressor AC (All other cars come with 120CC compressor AC)


With so much above features, Figo stands out to be more value for money car, though the looks are not as great as Swift's, the interior plastic quality is not as great as Swift's, Mileage is not as great as Swift, Maintenace cost is at par with Swift.


But my RANT is that, Ford is launching face lift Figo during Dassara, Deepavali time and I have seen photos of the test mule running in Chennai, It has new headlight, new tail lamp and new front grill. My car will become one step old model in 3-4 months. Wanted to wait, but our Tugalaq Government is standing on one leg to hike diesel car by 50-80K because we get subsidized diesel.(Govt calls it as subsidized diesel, but real thing is that they charge less tax compared to Petrol) So went ahead to buy now considering these aspects.

Thank you all guys for your valuable feedback and support.:cool:
aroraanant
Jul 2, 2012 at 10:34 PM
Congrats for the new car man.
PurusH
PurusH #42
Jul 9, 2012 at 12:32 PM
Congrats for the new car man.

Thanks Bro. Meanwhile as you had said earlier that the Ford Maintenance high, but acutally it is coming much cheaper than Swift. (After Dec2011 models Swift Cars, it is made mandatory that only Synthetic Oils should be used for engine & this oil itself costs 2K) And Figo parts are all localized and costs equivalent to Maruti Spares. I have read in forums for 3rd & 4th service costs reported by owners and it costs between 2500/- to 4000/-(1st & 2nd service is free & charges are for oil only)

Now I am getting a mileage of around 15kms in City and yet to test highway mileage. Swift give around 18 in city. Even new i20 is good on mileage with lot of features, but the only thing is it costs more and the servicing is too high.
S
Nov 12, 2012 at 6:42 PM
I suggest you could go for the Chevrolet Sail UVA. looks like a good one to me. They boast about their spacious interiors with sporty looks. I really liked the corvette inspired dual cockpit. Got some information about their features with new technology on the chevrolet website.