Best phone for 10k with stock android

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After handing over my Asus ZenFone Max Pro M2 to my wife i am left with my ancient redmi 2s and looking to buy a new phone, I need a phone without any bloatware costing around 10k. So fellas help me out here.
1. Budget? 10k
2. Display type and size? no preference
3. Dual sim? Yes
4. Preferred choice of brand? no preference
5. What camera option you want (flash, front facing camera)? Preferably something fast
6. Preferred operating system? (Android, iOS,Stock Android etc). Stock Android
7. Preferred connectivity options (Dual 4G,802.11AC/5Ghz(not 5g mobile network) wifi). no preference
8. Primary use of handset (multimedia, camera, internet, gaming etc)? hmmm... making phone calls.
9. Any specific mobile phones in consideration? None
10. Any other info that you want to share No

joyceanblue said:
After handing over my Asus ZenFone Max Pro M2 to my wife i am left with my ancient redmi 2s and looking to buy a new phone, I need a phone without any bloatware costing around 10k. So fellas help me out here.
1. Budget? 10k
2. Display type and size? no preference
3. Dual sim? Yes
4. Preferred choice of brand? no preference
5. What camera option you want (flash, front facing camera)? Preferably something fast
6. Preferred operating system? (Android, iOS,Stock Android etc). Stock Android
7. Preferred connectivity options (Dual 4G,802.11AC/5Ghz(not 5g mobile network) wifi). no preference
8. Primary use of handset (multimedia, camera, internet, gaming etc)? hmmm... making phone calls.
9. Any specific mobile phones in consideration? None
10. Any other info that you want to share No

Increase your budget and get this:
Nokia 7.1_BL (Blue, 4GB, 64GB Storage) *www.amazon.in/dp/B07L8DZP8P/ref=cm_sw_r_apa_i_ce7BEbQYE6E0H

Sent from my Nokia 8.1 using Tapatalk

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joyceanblue said:
Primary use of handset (multimedia, camera, internet, gaming etc)? hmmm... making phone calls.

If that is all you want then no point sticking to stock android which severely limits your options. Also it is not like old days when stock android has some significant practical benefits,in fact many people even dislike stock android nowadays because of lack of features now common in manufacturer roms.e.g.good luck trying to have call recording feature on latest stock android without paying 700-800 for a paid app(free ones/cheap ones don't work) when this is available by default on redmi/realme/samsung phones.

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whitestar_999 said:
If that is all you want then no point sticking to stock android which severely limits your options. Also it is not like old days when stock android has some significant practical benefits,in fact many people even dislike stock android nowadays because of lack of features now common in manufacturer roms.e.g.good luck trying to have call recording feature on latest stock android without paying 700-800 for a paid app(free ones/cheap ones don't work) when this is available by default on redmi/realme/samsung phones.

Any recommendations?

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Mi Redmi Note 7 Pro ( 64 GB Storage, 4 GB RAM ) Online at Best Price On Flipkart.com
Redmi Note 8 (Neptune Blue, 4GB RAM, 64GB Storage)

Method to disable ads in miui:
[MIUI Device Team] Disabling advertising in security MIUI no ROOT - Redmi Note 6 Pro - Mi Community - Xiaomi

Also try below link,ignore the "msa revocation" step & follow the rest(use msa revocation step only as a last resort).
How to Disable Ads in MIUI - Tips and Tricks - Mi Community - Xiaomi

Also note that gst on mobiles will increase from 12% to 18% from 1st April so buy before 31st Mar.

If you want stock android like experience for cheap, you'll have to flash a custom rom on a Redmi Note 7/7 Pro/8. There is no better option unless you are open to buying used Pixel 2 or Oneplus phones.

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Thanks guys for help.
Would I be right in saying that if you want a better camera Note 8 is a better option and if you want a faster processor 7 pro wins?

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joyceanblue said:
Thanks guys for help.
Would I be right in saying that if you want a better camera Note 8 is a better option and if you want a faster processor 7 pro wins?

No, note 7 pro has a better camera as well as processor. Note 8 is mainly for those who couldn't buy note 7s earlier or when note 7 pro was not as cheap as it is now.

My recommendations will be RN7P or RN8 as well, unless you can add 3-5k extra for something like Realme 6 or Redmi Note 9 Pro.

Advantages of RN8 over RN7P: dedicated SD card slot (vs hybrid in 7 Pro) & presence of an ultrawide camera (even macro).

Android one has advantages beyond the stock android. Only select hardware is used in android one, which means driver software would be much much more reliable, less buggy. This will have consequences on battery life and performance. Remember the BSOD days on windows. Bad drivers was one of the big cause of it.

If your requirements are simple, android one is a no brainer. My nokia 6.1 gives me 4 days battery. My usage isn't much, but still its good.

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cute.bandar said:
Android one has advantages beyond the stock android. Only select hardware is used in android one, which means driver software would be much much more reliable, less buggy. This will have consequences on battery life and performance. Remember the BSOD days on windows. Bad drivers was one of the big cause of it.

If your requirements are simple, android one is a no brainer. My nokia 6.1 gives me 4 days battery. My usage isn't much, but still its good.

Android One is neither windows nor mac. Anything above 2 days for needing charging is fine & with new good phones nowadays running manufacturer rom & avg usage it is completely possible to last 2 days without charging. I would rather have a phone which gives me scrolling screen capture & call recording/call number pattern blocking function out of box than a stock android phone which lasts 4 days on battery but has none of these features.

But its still a computer with all the considerations of any modern OS.
How many people are interested in the features you mentioned ? Most people would rather have the battery life and stability. At least the OP doesn't seem to care about those features, or if does that's for him to decide

OP check this: Motorola One Action ( 128 GB Storage, 4 GB RAM ) Online at Best Price On Flipkart.com

cute.bandar said:
But its still a computer with all the considerations of any modern OS.
How many people are interested in the features you mentioned ? Most people would rather have the battery life and stability. At least the OP doesn't seem to care about those features, or if does that's for him to decide

OP check this: Motorola One Action ( 128 GB Storage, 4 GB RAM ) Online at Best Price On Flipkart.com

After using Nexus 4 for 2 years & using custom ROMs for the features I want, I decided stock android is not worth it. Right now custom UIs aren't as laggy as it used to be. Factory-installed OS is usually pretty stable, there are buggy software updates to even Pixels, so stock android doesn't have an advantage in terms of stability. There are some Xiaomi & Samsung budget phones getting android 10 for weeks now, but some android one phones are yet to get it.

I'd say Oxygen OS & Samsung's One UI are the best UIs right now. New Realme OS seems fine as well considering increased ads in MIUI & lack of ability to disable certain system apps in it (like pre-installed Music, Video app, etc). But I'm pretty sure Realme OS is moving towards MIUI, it will just take some time.

I don't know how you are getting 4 days of battery life from Nokia 6.1, unless your screen on time is really low, like 2-3 hrs in those 3-4 days. Nokias aren't that great now, they need to cut prices or bump specs, even Samsung has better hardware than Nokia for the same price, so that is a no-brainer compared to Nokia phones.

I'd agree that Moto One Action is a good stock android phone for 10k & that most people will never miss a feature they haven't experienced. For me, I try my best to avoid stock android for myself & Google surely helps with that by releasing not so good phones these days. Pixel 3 was the last Google phone I liked. I would like a compact flagship from OP.

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cute.bandar said:
How many people are interested in the features you mentioned ? Most people would rather have the battery life and stability.

I know many who would sacrifice all these just to get a perfectly working call recording feature in latest Android 10 stock rom.

In fact @TigerKing paid Rs.720 to get the call recording app which can work without issues on latest android 10 while same is available for free out of the box on redmi,samsung,realme etc.

anupam_pb said:
I don't know how you are getting 4 days of battery life from Nokia 6.1,

sometimes I even touch 5 days

. For this I disabled a few things, like 'wifi-scanning', restricted background battery of almost all apps. My GPS is off , I like my screen dim. And as you said screen time is less. I really love Nokia right now. And I think they are great for the average joe. Simple predictable UI and tested . I guess ,for those who like to tinker or game, then nokia might not be good...

anupam_pb said:
there are buggy software updates to even Pixels, so stock android doesn't have an advantage in terms of stability.

yeah that's true. And that's why I am not really a fan of rolling release type OS. But still to me, if a device is made from selected hardware then its drivers and overall stability would be better.

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whitestar_999 said:
I know many who would sacrifice all these just to get a perfectly working call recording feature in latest Android 10 stock rom. In fact @TigerKing paid Rs.720 to get the call recording app which can work without issues on latest android 10 while same is available for free out of the box on redmi,samsung,realme etc.

My cousin put a condition this time to get a phone which has dual apps baked in. She is using Asus Max Pro M1 & Parallel Space crashes a lot or some other issues which she doesn't hear about in her friends' Redmi, Oppo & Vivo with dual apps. So not so uncommon to think that people actually care about some of these software features.

cute.bandar said:
*i.imgur.com/udFdryu.png

That stand by time is surely good. My mother extracts 2-3 days from Redmi Note 8 Pro & her screen usage is more than yours. Not all phones have a great stand by time but nowadays most people use their phones a lot, you are kind of towards the rare side, especially if we look at the younger generation, like these under 30.

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anupam_pb said:
That stand by time is surely good. My mother extracts 2-3 days from Redmi Note 8 Pro & her screen usage is more than yours. Not all phones have a great stand by time but nowadays most people use their phones a lot, you are kind of towards the rare side, especially if we look at the younger generation, like these under 30.

My latest battery stats on k20:
3d 0h 02min 47sec since last full charge,current battery level 16%
battery usage remaining 6h 42min
SOT 5h 39min
Total Call Time 1h 50min 46sec

whitestar_999 said:
My latest battery stats on k20:
3d 0h 02min 47sec since last full charge,current battery level 16%
battery usage remaining 6h 42min
SOT 5h 39min
Total Call Time 1h 50min 46sec

That is good. I easily hit 3hrs SOT in a day & with degraded battery, my S8 can barely last from morning to evening. Need to change the battery.

Nowadays batteries tech evolving very fast. Due to electric cars, more efficient and higher storage capacity and new materials are tested.
Most mobiles will be having 5k + batteries and battery efficient SoC. So no need to worry about 1 day for a power user.

Other than these lithium ion batteries...
Hydro fuel, nuclear batteries will give you infinite power.
Lithium ion batteries are used in both Mobiles and electric cars.
If you search Google, then China has power over lithium, they have all the lithium source, but now sodium ion batteries are being invented. As India have largest source of sodium, batteries will be at low cost.
And sodium ion batteries are far better than Li Ion batteries.
Nuclear batteries research also going on, but will be used by defence research team first.. army Navy.. then it will be commercialized. And these nuclear batteries never requires charging.

Nokia 6.2 (Ceramic Black, 4GB RAM, 64GB Storage) @ 12.5k
Link:*www.amazon.in/Nokia-6-2-Ceramic-Bl...2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1584835922&sr=1-2

J

I bought a Redmi Note 7 Pro, so far satisfied with the handset, thanks everyone for helping me decide.

whitestar_999 said:
Mi Redmi Note 7 Pro ( 64 GB Storage, 4 GB RAM ) Online at Best Price On Flipkart.com
Redmi Note 8 (Neptune Blue, 4GB RAM, 64GB Storage)

Method to disable ads in miui:
[MIUI Device Team] Disabling advertising in security MIUI no ROOT - Redmi Note 6 Pro - Mi Community - Xiaomi

Also try below link,ignore the "msa revocation" step & follow the rest(use msa revocation step only as a last resort).
How to Disable Ads in MIUI - Tips and Tricks - Mi Community - Xiaomi

Also note that gst on mobiles will increase from 12% to 18% from 1st April so buy before 31st Mar.

Any updated guide link for MIUI 12, for ads and debloat lists?

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TigerKing said:
Any updated guide link for MIUI 12, for ads and debloat lists?

Is the above guide not working on miui 12, from my understanding miui 12 is more of an UI upgrade than core components upgrade.

whitestar_999 said:
Is the above guide not working on miui 12, from my understanding miui 12 is more of an UI upgrade than core components upgrade.

Okay. After incremental update from MIUI 11 to 12 ads came back.
I re flashed complete 12 ROM and removed ads..

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TigerKing said:
Okay. After incremental update from MIUI 11 to 12 ads came back.
I re flashed complete 12 ROM and removed ads..

I updated using OTA first from miui 11(android 9) to miui 11(android 10) & then to miui 12 & was able to retain most of my ad blocking settings.Getapps auto update over wifi was turned on during this process which I again disabled after it updated all the Mi apps. Also the auto scan of any downloaded app from playstore was re-enabled but I left it on as it is using avast engine so kind of work as a 2nd protection factor while installing apps.

whitestar_999 said:
I updated using OTA first from miui 11(android 9) to miui 11(android 10) & then to miui 12 & was able to retain most of my ad blocking settings.Getapps auto update over wifi was turned on during this process which I again disabled after it updated all the Mi apps. Also the auto scan of any downloaded app from playstore was re-enabled but I left it on as it is using avast engine so kind of work as a 2nd protection factor while installing apps.

Okay. Next time I will try that thing.
I don't see any use of that app scanning thing. I used more than 5 apps that are modded/patched/unlocked, but still works fine.
One of the app "ACMarket" was detected harmful by Play Store after tapping Install button. But the same app was passed by virus scanner by MIUI installer.

As of now, I rooted Note 7 and removed all these bloatwares.
MIUI with root works all good.