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Bought: Buying new phone with a personality (after my Moto X died)

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Vyom
Vyom Original post #1
Oct 20, 2017 at 3:08 PM
So, it's the time of my life again, where I dig deep to do research on what phone to buy next. I have used two epic phones in my life as of now, both has a personality:
1. LG Optimus One (very popular and supported phone of its time)
2. Moto X (1st gen) (awesome and unique phone of it's time, features rich not gimmick)

Sadly, my Moto X fall from when I was riding my bike, and then before I could pick it up, a car ran over it rendering it's screen broken. It might still be alive, but display repair cost is atleast 3k. Combined it with the fact that it's non removable battery was not even lasting 12 hours on full charge and that I used this phone for 3 years I think it's time for an upgrade to those shiny fingerprint enabled fHD phones!

So I went back to the spreadsheet and plotted specs of various phones which I shortlisted. Here is the google docs link of the same:
Mission Next Phone.xlsx

Spreadsheet have following phone's specs:
Redmi Note 4 12,999
Mi A1 14,999
Mi Max 2 16,999
Moto G5 Plus 13,999
Moto G5s Plus 15,999
Moto Z Play 24,999
Moto Z2 Play 27,999
Moto X4 ~ Rs 22,000
LG V20 29,000
LG Q6 14,990
Nokia 7 TBA
OnePlus 3T 24,999
OnePlus 5 32,999
Huawei Honor 8 17,990

For this thread's purpose though here is the filled questionnaire:

1. Budget?
I am ok till 20k. But I am flexible. I can also shell only 10k for a phone like Redmi Note 4 (cause it effing ticks all checkmark [I will talk about it later]. But I can also spend beyond 20k if I think phone is WORTHY [that is with a personality])

2. Display type and size?
Atleast full HD display, Amoled is preferable but not mandatory since coming from an Amoled display (got used to the richness of black). Also 5.5" could be huge for my small hands. BUT some phones CAN pull it off by having a large display to body ratio (thin bezel) like LG Q6.

3. Dual sim?
Yes. I want to use two sims and a memory card. Even in Hybrid dual SIM's tho, there comes a Hybrid Sim Slot Adapter (like this)which can be used to use 2 SIMs and a card simultaneously. So can look at it if I choose to go with Hybrid SIM phone.

4. Preferred choice of brand?
LG, Motorola, OnePlus, Lenovo, Mi (in decreasing order of preference)
NOT Samsung, Apple, Oppo, Vivo, Panasonic etc

5. What camera option you want (flash, front facing camera)?
I don't take much selfies. Front camera not a priority. But a rear camera should be good. I realize that a phone which can shoot 60fps on fHD would be great!

6. Preferred operating system? (Android, iOS, Windows Phone, etc).
Android

7. Preferred connectivity options (3G, 4G ready).
Of course. I think this question can be removed from the template. Instead storage should be asked. So in this case I want at least 64 GB of inbuilt memory, to store all those offline content like YT offline videos and Amazon Prime videos.
Also headphone jack is important. I choose all phones with headphone jack.

8. Primary use of handset (multimedia, camera, internet, gaming etc)?
Everything except gaming. I game mosty on PC on my beloved RX 480.

9. Any specific mobile phones in consideration?
Shared a spreadsheet.

10. Any other info that you want to share
A lot. So no phone is perfect right now. Never was any phone that was perfect. Maybe Nexus line up, but then again, those were not dual SIM, or with removable battery, or with expandable storage. So lets see what quirks does some of the phone of today have, and why those are not perfect:

Redmi Note 4: Plane looking, flat phone, hybrid SIM, non stock ROM. It ticks all the boxes of features but it lacks on build front.
Moto G5 Plus: It's a very strong candidate on my list. But it's only available in 32 GB of in built memory for India market. :( Also don't have Amoled.
Moto G5s Plus: It's hybrid SIM phone, don't have Amoled. Speaker is present on the bottom part of the phone unlike Moto G5 plus where it is in front.
Moto Z Play: It's a one year old phone. It have same processor as in Moto G5 plus and G5s BUT price is a lot more since it's "moddable" with very costly Moto Mods. White Moto Z play is Rs 20,100 but Black is Rs 24999. WUT?
Moto Z2 Play: It's new avatar of Moto Z play, but with slightly new processor as of old. BUT they downgraded battery from 3510 mAh to 3000 (WHY?). Also price is 28k! :shock:
Moto X4: It's upcoming phone from Motorola, BUT with 32 GB of memory and 3 GB of RAM. Also no Amoled. Moto's drunk.
LG V20: Damn, this phone is good. Even at 5.7" screen size it's display to body is good so doesn't seem THAT large. But price of 29K. :(
LG Q6: Kept this on list since it's very cheap. If I can decide on nothing, this is the fall back plan.
Nokia 7: This checks all boxes of my criteria. But it's hybrid SIM. Also price is not known.
OnePlus 3T: I am considering this chinese option too. Only because Moto seems to have been infected with cancer after Lenovo bought it. But this is not available right now atleast not the black version. It's costly too at Rs 25k.


So as you can see, almost all phones have SOME quirks if not many. I don't know what to buy!
B
Oct 20, 2017 at 3:11 PM
I would love to see the research you do before getting married ha ha
Don't buy a Moto again. If you do then don't expect any update after 8 months. If you decide for the redmi then don't buy it online.
OPO3T has got it's last update. Moreover OP always cheats in benchmarks so I hate them.
avanildutta
Oct 20, 2017 at 3:24 PM
Have two redmi note 4 64gb ones.. And being a middle class guy.. Yes i love the phone.. Its the 'eye-phone' for middle class people like me..
Good luck with your hunt bro..

Sent from my Redmi Note 4 using Tapatalk
Vyom
Vyom #4
Oct 20, 2017 at 3:24 PM
Don't buy a Moto again. If you do then don't expect any update after 8 months. If you decide for the redmi then don't buy it online.
Moto X4 also comes with Android One flavor, which promises to have updates till Android P. But I think it's only for US market. Will need to see.
Also moto phones have good support on XDA, so I am ok with that. Custom ROMS are always available.
OPO3T has got it's last update. Moreover OP always cheats in benchmarks so I hate them.
Benchmarks can also be referred from 3rd party or users who are using it. I don't think it's THAT easy to fake. But their phones aren't that bad.
Vyom
Vyom #5
Oct 20, 2017 at 3:26 PM
Have two redmi note 4 64gb ones.. And being a middle class guy.. Yes i love the phone.. Its the 'eye-phone' for middle class people like me...
Thanks man. Yes, the Redmi Note 4 checks almost every checkmark. It's a very good phone to have. If I ignore the build quality, I think I can buy it to save for some good and irresistible phone down the line when I also have more $$$ to afford it. Like LG V30. DAMN, that's a good and cool flagship phone. :wub:
B
Oct 20, 2017 at 4:14 PM
Moto X4 also comes with Android One flavor, which promises to have updates till Android P. But I think it's only for US market. Will need to see.
Also moto phones have good support on XDA, so I am ok with that. Custom ROMS are always available.

Benchmarks can also be referred from 3rd party or users who are using it. I don't think it's THAT easy to fake. But their phones aren't that bad.

Moto promised 2 years of update for the G4 but started referring to it as an outdated phones within 8 months. Every phone has got support in XDA. They are still releasing Roms for 6-7 year old phones.

Nope, OPO is cheating customers. Search on XDA. Will post a link when I have access to a PC.
Vyom
Vyom #7
Oct 20, 2017 at 4:34 PM
^^ Alright. So I have been doing some research on Honor 8, which I had put as a last entry on my list.

I am reading good reviews about this phone especially the camera. In low light conditions, it takes very good pics. Every other features is on par except for the fact that it uses Hybrid sim, which I don't think should be an issue considering it have got 64 GB of internal memory. Edit: Oh no, it contains only 32 GB of memory. Looks like 64 GB variant didn't release in India. -_-

The only concern about this phone was that it uses non qualcomm or samsung's SOC. It uses it's own Kirin 950 SOC. But that doesn't necessarily means a bad thing. A quick read on this review tho suggest that it actually is a competition to Snapdragon 810. Except in gaming department it excels, which isn't my main priority anyway. Now Honor 8 have become a strong candidate!
B
Oct 20, 2017 at 4:54 PM
Benchmark Cheating Strikes Back: How OnePlus and Others Got Caught Red-Handed, and What They've Done About it

Do NOT Trust OnePlus 5 Benchmarks in Reviews - How OnePlus Cheated
B
Oct 20, 2017 at 4:55 PM
You are eyeing phones till 25k. Why don't you spend a little more and get a S7?
Vyom
Vyom #10
Oct 20, 2017 at 4:57 PM
Alright. I have heard about benchmark hacks of OnePlus, but I thought it's an overall good phone, and the phone's good even if some benchmark figures are wrongly reported high.

Also, about Honor 8, it's off the consideration. It's single SIM in India. Dual SIM only in China. Also it's 32 GB and not 64 GB.
XDA didn't mention that for India specs are low. :/
Vyom
Vyom #11
Oct 20, 2017 at 4:58 PM
You are eyeing phones till 25k. Why don't you spend a little more and get a S7?
Cause, no Samsung? I already mentioned that.
B
Oct 20, 2017 at 5:02 PM
Alright. I have heard about benchmark hacks of OnePlus, but I thought it's an overall good phone, and the phone's good even if some benchmark figures are wrongly reported high.

Also, about Honor 8, it's off the consideration. It's single SIM in India. Dual SIM only in China. Also it's 32 GB and not 64 GB.
XDA didn't mention that for India specs are low. :/
Hack, dude OPO has those cheating features inbuilt. If you still think the phone's good then your money your call.
Do consider the Nokia one's too. They are pretty good.
Vyom
Vyom #13
Oct 20, 2017 at 5:55 PM
Hack, dude OPO has those cheating features inbuilt. If you still think the phone's good then your money your call.
Do consider the Nokia one's too. They are pretty good.

Oh is it inbuilt! I wasn't expecting that.
Well I have a new phone to consider: Honor 6X. At the price of Rs 14k it's an exceptionally good phone for camera side.
Only drawback seems to be that it may lag on high end games like Asphalt 8. But I am not gamin much on phone anyway. So that should be ok. Also any of the dual SIM slots can accept 4G, but the other sim slot can only have 2G (not even 3G). But that is ok too, since I don't expect to use internet on both sims.
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Minion #14
Oct 20, 2017 at 7:37 PM
Mi A1(for updates) Zenfone 3 64GB (for camera,build quality and premium design)
Vyom
Vyom #15
Oct 21, 2017 at 1:10 AM
Damn man. I am in a fix now. No smartphone is perfect, and I am getting more puzzled looking at all those small annoying things that otherwise could have made a good smartphone.
I have removed the criteria of Hybrid sim since I think 64 GB is enough for mobile usage.

I added a new sheet in the google spreadsheet to see how different mobiles fares on parameters I care about (work in progress):
Screenshot:
*i.imgur.com/0M6iUPZ.jpg

In other news, I am getting really inclined to just throw $$$ to get LG V30. Damn thing is BEAUTIFUL!
Vyom
Vyom #16
Oct 21, 2017 at 1:32 AM
Here's a video comparing LG V30 camera with expensive Red camera:
Yes, comparison might be a bit flawed (since they choose high contrast shots and not all kind of shots shot by Red camera can be replicated using the phone) but it's awesome by the way LG V30 have such manual control in their camera app. (LOTS OF FREAKING GRANULAR CONTROL).

Also, yea LG V30 might be too expensive for me to buy, but I loved the phone!
Nerevarine
Oct 21, 2017 at 3:01 AM
it would have a launch price of atleast 40k in india, atleast..

damn your researching skills are top notch bro :D
Vyom
Vyom #18
Oct 21, 2017 at 8:25 PM
it would have a launch price of atleast 40k in india, atleast..
Yea. :(
But I think it's worth even that much money. Though totally out of budget for me. I can buy it, but that be overkill in the current state of my requirements.
Should I just take it in EMI. :confused:
Nerevarine
Oct 22, 2017 at 11:29 AM
No man, you should find a phone that you can buy in one go, then buy that in EMI. Personally 40k for a phone doesnt justify it too much for me, your requirement could be different :D
Vyom
Vyom #20
Oct 22, 2017 at 11:45 AM
After much pondering I was still not able to decide which phone to go for. But I loved V30 to the point that I just thought to get that through EMI. But due to the fact that I just invested around 90k on a new bike for me and since I have other commitments I didn't want to spend Rs 45k on it. At that price point there are no dearth of choices to choose from. So I thought of just buying Redmi Note 4 and get it over with.

But I couldn't get over the fact how cool a 18:9 phone looks. The smaller cousin of LG G5, the LG Q6 was on my radar now. The display of this phone (ratio 18:9) made me want to just buy that even if the phone lacked lot of hardware like fingerprint scanner. I was over the fact that Redmi Note 4 ticks so many checkmarks. What matters in the end is how your phone looks. The look of a phone is the first thing you see when you pickup your phone. It's the first thing anyone else see in your hands while you are holding it.

BUT THEN, I thought, hey if I liked 18:9 so much why don't I look for other 18:9 phones available in the market. And hence I did following research on the best 18:9 phones available.

Following is the list of 18:9 phones (from this article: 10 Best Phones With 18:9 Displays That You Can Buy In India - Smartprix Blog):
iPhone X (₹ 89,000)
Google Pixel 2XL (₹ 73,000)
Samsung Galaxy Note 8 (₹ 67,900)
Samsung Galaxy S8/ S8+ (₹ 58,900)
LG V30 (~₹ 45,000)
Xiaomi Mi Mix 2 (₹ 35,999)
LG G6 (₹ 33,990)
Oppo F5 (~₹ 24,990)
Vivo V7+ (₹ 21,990)
Huawei Honor 9i (₹ 17,999)
LG Q6-series (₹ 14,990)
Micromax Canvas Infinity (₹ 9,999)

Removing excessive costly and the brands I wouldn't prefer, following is the shortlist:
Huawei Honor 9i (₹ 17,999)
LG Q6-series (₹ 14,990)

So I think the real compeitition now is between Huawei Honor 9i and LG Q6 phone. Honor 9i launched just a week ago, the phone doesn't even have a page on GSMArena now. But I gathered information from other sites and I have documented the spec difference between the two phones in sheet "Best 18:9 phone" of the spreadsheet (Vyom's Mission Next Phone).

From geekyranjit video on Honor 9i:
Good screen visibility under sunlight.
Good battery life.
Not for hardcore gaming.
Good front camera performance.
No 4K video option in rear camera and no object stabalization.
No fast charging and slow normal charging.
No dual speaker and one speaker also below (not that they could have placed speaker with that 18:9 display)
No gyroscope (DEAL BREAKER)

So, there you go. No gyroscope. Come on Huawei. The only better option than LG G6 in 18:9 phone, and you had to mess it up. Thanks man.

Back to square one.
Nerevarine
Oct 22, 2017 at 12:10 PM
You should wait for Redmi note 5, pretty sure its gonna start the trend for full face display in low end segment
Vyom
Vyom #22
Oct 22, 2017 at 12:12 PM
You should wait for Redmi note 5, pretty sure its gonna start the trend for full face display in low end segment
I did hear a rumor that Redmi Note 5 will come with 18:9 display. But launch seems far. And I am without a smartphone since a week now.
M
Minion #23
Oct 22, 2017 at 8:52 PM
[QUOTE

Removing excessive costly and the brands I wouldn't prefer, following is the shortlist:
Huawei Honor 9i (₹ 17,999)
LG Q6-series (₹ 14,990)
[/QUOTE]

Both Q6 and Honor 9i are worst phone for mid range segment LG Q6 doesn't even have a fingerprint sensor and is bundled with very weak chipset Huawei Honor 9i has super weak GPU for a 2k display i don't know what huwaie was thinking when launching this device.

Moto z play is still a good phone and doesn't cost a bomb
Vyom
Vyom #24
Oct 22, 2017 at 10:29 PM
Both Q6 and Honor 9i are worst phone for mid range segment LG Q6 doesn't even have a fingerprint sensor and is bundled with very weak chipset Huawei Honor 9i has super weak GPU for a 2k display i don't know what huwaie was thing launching this device.

Moto z play is still a good phone and doesn't cost a bomb
Well, I know LG Q6 is bad phone for specs thats why I selected Honor 9i as a phone which have 18:9 display (my new fetish). But I ruled out Honor 9i cause it lacks gyroscope.
About Moto Z Play, following was my comment in first post:
Moto Z Play: It's a one year old phone. It have same processor as in Moto G5 plus and G5s BUT price is a lot more since it's "moddable" with very costly Moto Mods. White Moto Z play is Rs 20,100 but Black is Rs 24999. WUT?

Edit: Now white one and black one Moto Z play is both Rs 25k on FK, but only Black one is available. Don't know how they changed price of an out of stock white Moto Z Play cause I think it was OOS before too.

Anyway, so the issue with Moto Z Play is that it's 25K. I wouldn't want to buy a one year old phone when newer generation Moto Z2 play is Rs 28K. But suddenly now I am way out of budget. Reaching Rs 30K. -_-
M
Minion #25
Oct 26, 2017 at 10:54 AM
Well, I know LG Q6 is bad phone for specs thats why I selected Honor 9i as a phone which have 18:9 display (my new fetish). But I ruled out Honor 9i cause it lacks gyroscope.
About Moto Z Play, following was my comment in first post:
Moto Z Play: It's a one year old phone. It have same processor as in Moto G5 plus and G5s BUT price is a lot more since it's "moddable" with very costly Moto Mods. White Moto Z play is Rs 20,100 but Black is Rs 24999. WUT?

Edit: Now white one and black one Moto Z play is both Rs 25k on FK, but only Black one is available. Don't know how they changed price of an out of stock white Moto Z Play cause I think it was OOS before too.

Anyway, so the issue with Moto Z Play is that it's 25K. I wouldn't want to buy a one year old phone when newer generation Moto Z2 play is Rs 28K. But suddenly now I am way out of budget. Reaching Rs 30K. -_-

All 2017 mid range phones offer same SD 625 chipset I wouldn't recommend moto G5 plus due to single speaker which act as both ear piece and speaker moto G5S plus camera has lag issues and lacks an compass which is absurd I suggested moto Z play(White model) due to cost 20k and this phone has large battery and very good display.

Honestly I would recommended zenfone 3 which costs around 18k for 64GB model and 13k for 32GB model this phone looks awesome with superb design it also has OIS and has a very good camera but again you will say its a year old phone you will not find a single phone which fulfills all your requirement.
Vyom
Vyom #26
Oct 26, 2017 at 2:23 PM
All 2017 mid range phones offer same SD 625 chipset I wouldn't recommend moto G5 plus due to single speaker which act as both ear piece and speaker moto G5S plus camera has lag issues and lacks an compass which is absurd I suggested moto Z play(White model) due to cost 20k and this phone has large battery and very good display.

Honestly I would recommended zenfone 3 which costs around 18k for 64GB model and 13k for 32GB model this phone looks awesome with superb design it also has OIS and has a very good camera but again you will say its a year old phone you will not find a single phone which fulfills all your requirement.
Already ruled out Moto G5 plus long back due to lack of basic sensor such as compass.

Looked at Zenfone 3. Somehow it's design doesn't cut it for me. Also the price variation seems very odd between colors. For 3 GB RAM and 32 GB model price is Rs 13,999 for all 3 colours. But for Black 64 GB mode, price is Rs 18,599. And which is what I want. It's sad that whichever phone I look at, don't miss to disappoint me.

Anyway, I got a Micromax bolt phone from someone for Rs 2k. It have 1 GB of RAM, 8 GB of memory and a pathetic LCD display. I will keep using it until I find "the ONE". :'(
thatsashok
Oct 26, 2017 at 3:20 PM
Another @Vyom purchase swayamvar thread

To make things simple : Buy Oneplus device, install custom ROM (warranty not void & huge community ) and be happy with the decent camera it has.

As for the benchmarking trickery since you don't game as per requirements questionnaire, Just ignore the details.
SaiyanGoku
Oct 26, 2017 at 4:37 PM
Another @Vyom purchase swayamvar thread

To make things simple : Buy Oneplus device, install custom ROM (warranty not void & huge community ) and be happy with the decent camera it has.

As for the benchmarking trickery since you don't game as per requirements questionnaire, Just ignore the details.
I use OP3 and don't give a damn about those benchmarks. Real world usage matters.

Looking to hire a hacker/ private investigator to hack your spouses cellphone or email and other blackhat services
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R
Respawner #29
Oct 26, 2017 at 11:12 PM
Already ruled out Moto G5 plus long back due to lack of basic sensor such as compass.

Looked at Zenfone 3. Somehow it's design doesn't cut it for me. Also the price variation seems very odd between colors. For 3 GB RAM and 32 GB model price is Rs 13,999 for all 3 colours. But for Black 64 GB mode, price is Rs 18,599. And which is what I want. It's sad that whichever phone I look at, don't miss to disappoint me.

Anyway, I got a Micromax bolt phone from someone for Rs 2k. It have 1 GB of RAM, 8 GB of memory and a pathetic LCD display. I will keep using it until I find "the ONE". :'(


Well .. buy Xiaomi mi A1? It has good camera , Decent performance and has 64 GB variant for 15k..(or maybe wait for Redmi Note 5 , if 18:9 display is your thing)

NO phone under 25k checks all the boxes(i.e. 18:9 display, OIS , 4k Recording etc.)
Vyom
Vyom #30
Oct 26, 2017 at 11:44 PM
To make things simple : Buy Oneplus device, install custom ROM (warranty not void & huge community ) and be happy with the decent camera it has.

As for the benchmarking trickery since you don't game as per requirements questionnaire, Just ignore the details.
One Plus devices maybe good but it isn't that good. I did some research on how One Plus 5 fares with respect to LG V20 (a one year old phone):

LG V20 pros over One Plus 5:
1. Removable battery - for power user it might come in handy.
2. The LG V20 is made from military grade material - holds up good if dropped (MIL-STD-810G certified) (Drop test:
)
3. Secondary small screen on top of main screen - It does look good.
*www.androidcentral.com/sites/androidcentral.com/files/styles/larger_wm_brw/public/article_images/2016/12/lg-v20-second-screen-2.jpg?itok=i9UijHVJ
4. LG V20 despite not having AMOLED screen is more bright under direct sunlight. Is also Quad HD wrt to the fHD resolution of One Plus 5.
5. Expandable storage and that too dedicated slot.
6. Dual camera where the other camera is wide angle lens. One Plus 5's secondary camera is telephoto lens which is less practical than wide angle lens. So LG V20 wins here.
7. Infrared (IR blaster as they like to call it now a days) and FM Radio both present on LG V20 while it isn't in One plus 5.
8. 32 bit Hi Fi Quad DAC - Translate to better clarity sounds if you have a good set of ear/head phones.
9. Finally I can get LG V20 (with 64 GB memory) at Rs 30k, while the same 64 GB memory One Plus 5 is Rs 33K. The 128 GB variant is 38K (and considering the fact that I can't expand the storage I would be stuck with internal memory in One Plus 5).

LG V20 cons over One Plus 5:
1. Amoled screen. After using Amoled screen on my Moto X I wish to have a phone with Amoled, but then LG V20 IPS LCD screen is not bad as explained in pros section.
2. Since One plus don't have removal battery and while it doesn't have an IP rating, it's somewhat water resistant as proved by tests on YT. (But then LG V20 have removable battery which is more advantageous for power users).
3. Gorilla Glass 5 (LG V20 have Gorilla Glass 4) but hey, I would be using Tempered ANYWAY.
4. Better processor (who cares, LG V20 have snapdragon 820, its till fast).
5. Alert Slider - One hardware toggle button to toggle to put phone into DND mode is probably extremely helpful. (BUT, I might get around to it using the secondary screen on LG V20).

So, I managed to negate almost all cons of One plus 5 (and not intentionally) :p

Conclusion:
Overall One Plus 5 is a good looking phone with Amoled screen but it looks exactly like Moto X in terms of front look. So the LG V20 despite it being a phablet, rocks in terms of "personality" score that matters in this thread. The Quad HD screen of LG V20 combined with the Quad DAC and a secondary mini display which will show time, apps, notifications and even your signature even when you are gaming or watching movies is quite a good hardware feature that amps up the personality score of the phone. The LG V20 is a product for niche users (like me) and the fans of this phone swears by the usability of secondary screen and removable battery (which is luxury in high end smartphones these days).

So, unless there is any good phones under 30k (with no compromise) I think LG V20 could be my next gadget!

Edit: Yes, as Respawner puts it, no phone under 25K is perfect. Hence I have now made up my mind to go beyond it. LG V20 seems very close to perfection, if not the perfect phone.
thatsashok
Oct 27, 2017 at 11:36 AM
My only submission is that just go in showroom and see the camera if that is your main interest/usage from phone. Do not depend on edited footage, encoded in youtube and watch in low res on youtube and decide
lywyre
lywyre #32
Oct 27, 2017 at 2:14 PM
I got my Q6 for 9.4k from Amazon - Festival offer 12990, plus exchange of my Moto E2 (~3.5k :D. Special offer for Q6). Now it is selling for 15k, I think.

Pros:
Good build quality (not great)
Easy to use with one hand
Nice display and looks
Some Camera features
6 months replacement for display (once)
Dedicated slots for 2 SIMS and 1 SD Card

Average:
Battery lasts one day on moderate use (2 to 3 hours totally on Opera, WhatsApp, Twitter, Reddit)
Average Camera (not good, not bad either)

Cons:
Slippery, needs a rubber/silicon case
No fingerprint sensor
No quick charge
Edit: As minion already pointed out - weak processor

Looks I spoke too soon. Did not read the 2nd page posts and missed your shortlist. This is not worth 15k or even 13k. But since I got a good trade, I am not complaining.
M
Minion #33
Oct 27, 2017 at 7:29 PM
@Vyom Why don't you get lg G6 ?
Vyom
Vyom #34
Oct 27, 2017 at 11:19 PM
@Vyom Why don't you get lg G6 ?
Cause for the extra 4k, LG G6 isn't much of an improvement from LG V20.

> Sure, the LG G6 is 18:9 ratio phone which means it's smaller with same screen size, but it's not Amoled, so not much screen quality difference.
> Sure, the LG G6 is waterproof but they traded removable battery for that.
> LG V20 uses dedicated slot for memory card, G6 uses Hybrid

Besides, if I am going to buy LG V20 I am going to buy it even lower than Rs 30k. It's dropped lower before. New sales are coming up. And I am also sold by its secondary display.
Vyom
Vyom #35
Oct 28, 2017 at 12:45 PM
Between the LG G6 and LG V20, I did a reevaluation:

> Sure, LG V20 and LG G6 both have LCD, LG G6 does have 18:9 display and rounded corners... looks better.
> Sure LG V20 have removable battery, but we gain wireless charging and waterproofing in LG G6
> Well, no excuse with not having a dedicated slot for MicroSD card. But it does have 64 GB memory.

So yea, I haven't ruled out LG G6 yet. BUT I am amazed to see how I am progressing from 15K -> 25K -> 30K to now 34k. :p
B
Oct 29, 2017 at 12:03 AM
Brother hope you don't mind me asking, which stream have you opted for in your studies?
If your budget is around 34k then get a flagship Galaxy. Trust me you won't regret it.
Vyom
Vyom #37
Oct 29, 2017 at 11:32 PM
Brother hope you don't mind me asking, which stream have you opted for in your studies?
What is 'stream' have to do with this thread? :/
If your budget is around 34k then get a flagship Galaxy. Trust me you won't regret it.
I don't regret buying a phone. Cause I spend ages in research before buying a phone. :p
B
Oct 29, 2017 at 11:37 PM
What is 'stream' have to do with this thread? :/

I don't regret buying a phone. Cause I spend ages in research before buying a phone. :p
The bold words made me wonder your stream.
Vyom
Vyom #39
Oct 29, 2017 at 11:41 PM
The bold words made me wonder your stream.
I still don't know how it will help.. but ok.
I took Science is 12th with Computers from the choice of Biology/Computer/Arts.
B
Oct 30, 2017 at 12:23 AM
I still don't know how it will help.. but ok.
I took Science is 12th with Computers from the choice of Biology/Computer/Arts.

Totally different than your personality. Wish you the best.
Nerevarine
Oct 30, 2017 at 2:21 AM
Hybrid slot isnt an issue if you use this, Although buying a 30k phone and using that would look messy.
I use it with my RN3, after i cut out a hole in the inner layer of an AMZER case. From outside it looks absolutely fine.

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Id still say wait for RN5, my Snapdragon 650 gives me plenty performance, the only area where Id consider buying a flagship is camera and screen, and honestly thats a massive difference paying for just these two things. 99% of people using Snapdragon 835 wont be using it's true potential, so whats the point ?
Vyom
Vyom #42
Oct 30, 2017 at 1:46 PM
Totally different than your personality. Wish you the best.
What were you expecting? And how it's totally different than my personality? :lol:
Vyom
Vyom #43
Oct 30, 2017 at 1:51 PM
Hybrid slot isnt an issue if you use this, Although buying a 30k phone and using that would look messy.
I use it with my RN3, after i cut out a hole in the inner layer of an AMZER case. From outside it looks absolutely fine.

Buy Products Online from China Wholesalers at Aliexpress.com

Id still say wait for RN5, my Snapdragon 650 gives me plenty performance, the only area where Id consider buying a flagship is camera and screen, and honestly thats a massive difference paying for just these two things. 99% of people using Snapdragon 835 wont be using it's true potential, so whats the point ?
I have encountered that "jugaad" of overcoming the issue of hybrid sim and I do think it's messy. Although if the device have 64 GB of inbuilt memory and supports OTG pen drive, then I don't think hybrid SIM to be an issue. Though I have heard that OTG pen drive when connected via a Micro USB to Type C adapter doesn't work. So that would be an issue for devices with Type C slots which is both LG V20 and LG G6.

Well, a flagship phone like LG G6 also has military grade and waterproofing certification, apart from having a gorgeous display. I think the flagship phone does provide such value which a budget phone just can't provide. That's why I am leaning towards biting the bullet and treat myself with a flagship device such as LG G6!
rhitwick
rhitwick #44
Oct 30, 2017 at 1:55 PM
How's the after sales service report for the above mentioned ones?
Is that a decisive factor you?
Nerevarine
Oct 30, 2017 at 2:03 PM
If you do go for a flagship, my vote goes for One Plus 5T or LG V30
M
Minion #46
Oct 30, 2017 at 7:27 PM
Already ruled out Moto G5 plus long back due to lack of basic sensor such as compass.

Looked at Zenfone 3. Somehow it's design doesn't cut it for me. Also the price variation seems very odd between colors. For 3 GB RAM and 32 GB model price is Rs 13,999 for all 3 colours. But for Black 64 GB mode, price is Rs 18,599. And which is what I want. It's sad that whichever phone I look at, don't miss to disappoint me.

Anyway, I got a Micromax bolt phone from someone for Rs 2k. It have 1 GB of RAM, 8 GB of memory and a pathetic LCD display. I will keep using it until I find "the ONE". :'(
ZF3 is available for 16k
*www.amazon.in/Asus-Zenfone-Black-6...UTF8&qid=1509371544&sr=1-2&keywords=zenfone+3
Vyom
Vyom #47
Oct 30, 2017 at 11:46 PM
ZF3 is available for 16k
*www.amazon.in/Asus-Zenfone-Black-6...UTF8&qid=1509371544&sr=1-2&keywords=zenfone+3
Looks like it jumped to Rs 17,400 in few hours. Anyway, as said earlier, the phone doesn't appeal me. LG V20 and LG G6 do though. But LG G6 is increasing it's price. From 33K to 35K and now more than 36K :'(
Vyom
Vyom #48
Oct 31, 2017 at 12:06 AM
If you do go for a flagship, my vote goes for One Plus 5T or LG V30
My heart goes for LG V30, but it would cost more than 45K which is VERY much. But the phone haven't even launched in India.
M
Minion #49
Oct 31, 2017 at 9:56 AM
Looks like it jumped to Rs 17,400 in few hours. Anyway, as said earlier, the phone doesn't appeal me. LG V20 and LG G6 do though. But LG G6 is increasing it's price. From 33K to 35K and now more than 36K :'(

I informed you because you want that phone for 16k also you should have bought lg g6 during sales.
Vyom
Vyom #50
Nov 7, 2017 at 1:15 PM
I went to see the LG G6 in person in an offline store yesterday and the size was perfect for me. Salesman also showed me putting the phone under water and also a film he shot in some swimming pool under water. Sadly the price in offline store was Rs 38,000. So I captured LG G6 in Amazon lightning deal. Not much price difference but was Rs 32,990. I bit the bullet and bought it instantly. Impulse buying at it's finest.

Ordered the platinum version since the phone looks premium in metallic texture. Black colour I use in my gadgets way too often. Time for some change.

Phone is supposed to be delivered tomorrow!
M
Minion #51
Nov 7, 2017 at 7:42 PM
I went to see the LG G6 in person in an offline store yesterday and the size was perfect for me. Salesman also showed me putting the phone under water and also a film he shot in some swimming pool under water. Sadly the price in offline store was Rs 38,000. So I captured LG G6 in Amazon lightning deal. Not much price difference but was Rs 32,990. I bit the bullet and bought it instantly. Impulse buying at it's finest.

Ordered the platinum version since the phone looks premium in metallic texture. Black colour I use in my gadgets way too often. Time for some change.

Phone is supposed to be delivered tomorrow!
Congrats
Zangetsu
Zangetsu #52
Nov 8, 2017 at 6:24 PM
Congrats, so u finally bought it from Amazon
Vyom
Vyom #53
Nov 8, 2017 at 8:09 PM
Congrats, so u finally bought it from Amazon
Yes. There marketing trick worked.

They first increased price from 34k to 35k then to 36k. Then they dropped price till 33k on lightning deal. Upon seeing the drop from 36k to 33k, I couldn't hold myself and bought it right away.

They should promote their sales team.
M
Minion #54
Nov 8, 2017 at 9:46 PM
Yes. There marketing trick worked.

They first increased price from 34k to 35k then to 36k. Then they dropped price till 33k on lightning deal. Upon seeing the drop from 36k to 33k, I couldn't hold myself and bought it right away.

They should promote their sales team.
Lg g6 was available for 30k during sales
Vyom
Vyom #55
Nov 8, 2017 at 11:03 PM
Lg g6 was available for 30k during sales
I did my research. It never went below Rs 32500.

Price graph since it launched:
LG G6 price.JPG


Source: Keepa - Amazon Price Tracker
B
Nov 8, 2017 at 11:21 PM
I did my research. It never went below Rs 32500.

Price graph since it launched:
View attachment 17129

Source: Keepa - Amazon Price Tracker
Nope it was available for around 29800 on fk. Anyways forget this and congrats brother, now 2 parties are pending on your side.
Vyom
Vyom #57
Nov 9, 2017 at 11:20 AM
Nope it was available for around 29800 on fk. Anyways forget this and congrats brother, now 2 parties are pending on your side.
On FK. -_-
Never before you told me this. I "probably" could have waited. Nevertheless this phone is worth even at Rs 33K.
As for party, whenever you come to Delhi, contact me :D
M
Minion #58
Nov 9, 2017 at 12:12 PM
On FK. -_-
Never before you told me this. I "probably" could have waited. Nevertheless this phone is worth even at Rs 33K.
As for party, whenever you come to Delhi, contact me :D
It was available during big billion day and Diwali sales. Definitely :doublethumb:
Vyom
Vyom #59
Nov 11, 2017 at 12:16 PM
So here is the album for my LG G6: LG G6 - My First Flagship smartphone
Pics are downscaled to 50% and total size of album is ~20 MB. Pics were shot by Moto X 2nd gen.

Some sample pics here:

IMG_20171110_162235940.jpg


IMG_20171110_134854833.jpg


IMG_20171110_134136070.jpg


IMG_20171110_133736725.jpg
mohit9206
mohit9206 #60
Nov 12, 2017 at 9:40 PM
Congrats man, i too do a lot of research before buying a phone because its something you use everyday. G6 was a good choice.
Vyom
Vyom #61
Dec 2, 2017 at 8:49 PM
Lol, doesn't matter how much research you do, if you had luck nothing can save you. I found a new hardware bug that was discovered a day ago. Without writing again, here's the review which I just posted on Amazon. Important part is bold.

After my Moto X 1st gen was crushed under a car, I needed to buy myself another Android. After weeks of research and using a cheap Micromax phone for the duration, ended up finalizing this bad boy. I knew it's shortcomings like bad front cam and non stock UI and also its strengths like wide angle cam, hardware, water proofing and Quad Dac. So I knew what I was going into.

Needless to say when I finally received the phone, I was on seventh cloud. The phone feels premium and works as expected. EXCEPT, the wide angle cam. One thing that wasn't discovered when I bought this phone was that the phone comes with 2 versions of wide angle camera module, one has poor image quality. One with 2.01 focal length and other inferior with 2.09 focal length. The wide angle pics taken from the 2.09 focal length camera has bad blurry on the edges. You can refer this reddit thread for details: LG G6 is produced with 2 versions of wide angle camera module, one has poor image quality • r/lgg6

Unfortunately I received a unit with bad focal length one, and I can't return it since return window is closed. But it's hard to recommend this phone now. Know this issue before purchasing the phone. If you still want to buy this phone check the focal length in image properties and return it if you find picture quality unacceptable.
jackal_79
jackal_79 #62
Dec 2, 2017 at 9:11 PM
Lol, doesn't matter how much research you do, if you had luck nothing can save you. I found a new hardware bug that was discovered a day ago. Without writing again, here's the review which I just posted on Amazon. Important part is bold.

After my Moto X 1st gen was crushed under a car, I needed to buy myself another Android. After weeks of research and using a cheap Micromax phone for the duration, ended up finalizing this bad boy. I knew it's shortcomings like bad front cam and non stock UI and also its strengths like wide angle cam, hardware, water proofing and Quad Dac. So I knew what I was going into.

Needless to say when I finally received the phone, I was on seventh cloud. The phone feels premium and works as expected. EXCEPT, the wide angle cam. One thing that wasn't discovered when I bought this phone was that the phone comes with 2 versions of wide angle camera module, one has poor image quality. One with 2.01 focal length and other inferior with 2.09 focal length. The wide angle pics taken from the 2.09 focal length camera has bad blurry on the edges. You can refer this reddit thread for details: LG G6 is produced with 2 versions of wide angle camera module, one has poor image quality • r/lgg6

Unfortunately I received a unit with bad focal length one, and I can't return it since return window is closed. But it's hard to recommend this phone now. Know this issue before purchasing the phone. If you still want to buy this phone check the focal length in image properties and return it if you find picture quality unacceptable.
So warranty doesn't cover it?

Sent from my LG-D802T using Tapatalk
B
Dec 2, 2017 at 10:27 PM
Not using any screen guard and cover?
Forgot about the bug man its a good looking phone with some good specs.
Vyom
Vyom #64
Dec 2, 2017 at 10:53 PM
So warranty doesn't cover it?
Did you mean for my Moto X? No.. it was 3 yr old phone. Out of warranty.
If you mean LG G6, then I guess no, since it's a hardware "fault" per se.. it's by design of the component they are choosing for some units. :(
Vyom
Vyom #65
Dec 2, 2017 at 10:54 PM
Not using any screen guard and cover?
Forgot about the bug man its a good looking phone with some good specs.
Yes, it's a good phone. But with some minor ceveats. This hardware bug is a little major ceveat on this otherwise great phone.
B
Dec 2, 2017 at 10:55 PM
Yes, it's a good phone. But with some minor ceveats. This hardware bug is a little major ceveat on this otherwise great phone.
Nothing is perfect dear. Get a gadgetshieldz guard.
Vyom
Vyom #67
Dec 2, 2017 at 10:57 PM
Nothing is perfect dear. Get a gadgetshieldz guard.
I don't know why you thought I would use my phone without a guard lol. I was talking about the hardware bug in wide angle camera lens.
B
Dec 2, 2017 at 10:58 PM
I know. But I wasn't able to see any guard in the photos so that is why I suggested it, cheers.
B
Dec 2, 2017 at 10:59 PM
It's there. I missed it before.
Vyom
Vyom #70
Dec 3, 2017 at 12:00 AM
It's there. I missed it before.
Yes there was a screen protector when it came in box. However I have since applied a tempered glass.
I am also thinking to buy this speigen case, but it's too costly, so been using a normal transparent TPU.
*www.amazon.in/gp/product/B01MYAJT88/