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nac Original post #1
Oct 7, 2020 at 6:45 PM
System info:
Ryzen 3 2200G
MSI B450M Pro VDH
Corsair Vengeance and Hyper X (4GB * 2 @ 2400mhz)
Samsung 850EVO 120GB
Generic PSU 450w (I know I should get a better one, some months back my Antec went kaput and out of warranty. Hopefully I will get one soon).

BSOD stop code:
UNEXPECTED STORE EXCEPTION
KERNEL DATA INPAGE ERROR

And there may be one more stop code I might have seen, but don't remember. It's just a "may be", I am not sure if I have noticed another stop code in the last one month or so. Mostly UNEXPECTED STORE EXCEPTION.

It started about a month ago. At first I thought it's something to do with Gameloop/PUBGM update. Usually there is some hiccup during every update. And it happened only when I am in Gameloop/PUBGM. So I uninstalled and reinstalled Gameloop/PUBGM. But still I experienced BSOD, but with less number of times. Probably I didn't use Gameloop much since then, don't know.

About 10-15 days back, it happened while I was using Bluestacks which I use for Whatsapp. And last week, I was not using any emulator Gameloop or Bluestacks, just couple of Excel workbooks and few Chrome browser tabs. And there goes another BSOD. It was the only time it happened while no emulator was running. Now I started doubting on other things like hardware, drivers/software. I tried few software to check my RAM (Memtest86 by Passmark, Windows built-in memory diagnostics tool, memtest), about 4-5 apps to check SSD (Samsung magician, HDD, Seatools, HDD Scan, HD Sentinel and also Windows chkdsk feature). Everything came clean. I tried with just one stick, both the sticks together and every time RAM test results were good. I checked the wires, changed SATA cable, unplugged and re-plugged all the cables. Reset the BIOS to default settings. Updated all drivers - GPU, LAN, Chipset etc. I tried all these about 10-15 days before and again couple of days ago. Still it happens.

It doesn't BSOD more frequently. Initially it happened more I think, and someday there won't be any BSOD.

Just before BSOD app freezes (many a times I don't realize that), I can move mouse. If I click something again using mouse then everything freezes including mouse movement. After a good 45-90 seconds, I will see BSOD with stop code and it will take sometime and restarts. The restart stops at BIOS loading screen and restart again to BIOS and restart. The cycle will go on and on, I assume. I have to force shutdown by pressing power button for long and then power ON, it will start normally. If and when I realize that the app is gonna hang (you know when it's kinda freezing/stop responding to mouse click), I take my hands from the mouse and few seconds later it will respond then I can continue working. If I don't realize and click again, it goes to BSOD.

Tried Bluescreen viewer, but it shows nothing. Don't know if this would give you guys any clue, there are these two entries close to those shutdowns,
Windows failed fast startup with error status 0xC00000D4.
Dump file creation failed due to error during dump creation.
And one find in Eventlog, I guess this is the day the issue started. 5sec before this not clean shutdown error logged.
{Registry Hive Recovered} Registry hive (file): '\SystemRoot\System32\Config\SOFTWARE' was corrupted and it has been recovered. Some data might have been lost.
Less than 24hrs before this I updated Gameloop/PUBGM.

Stat:
19 days out of 26 days, not clean shutdown logged
At least 1 not clean shutdown a day and max of 3 not clean shutdowns a day
Total of 35 counts, but I don't think there were this many due to BSOD.
Out of that 13 were of Windows failed fast startup close to the time of not clean shutdown,
13 were of Dump file creation fail, and
9 don't have any other entries like dump file creation fail or fast startup fail close to not clean shutdowns.
And Max gap of over 3 days between not clean shutdowns.

Two more anomalies,
- Last week when I tried an Window update, it downloaded but failed to install and showed some error. I tried few times, but the results are same. It was Windows feature update.
- Then I didn't use the PC for few days. After a few days when I turned on, the time was showing wrong and I couldn't sync with windows server. So checked network traffic to see if anything using all the bandwidth, Windows was again downloading that failed update/install.

I can think of two more things,
One, I can stress test CPU and iGPU to see if I am getting BSOD there.
Two, fresh installation of Windows OS and see if it still happens after fresh installation.

Fresh installation of OS is a time consuming thing, so I can't do it right away. So the reason I haven't done it till now. Until now, I didn't think of stress testing CPU/GPU. Next in order is stress test.

What I should do now? Been googling for weeks now, but with no fix.
Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.
RumbaMon19
Oct 7, 2020 at 6:57 PM
System info:
Ryzen 3 2200G
MSI B450M Pro VDH
Corsair Vengeance and Hyper X (4GB * 2 @ 2400mhz)
Samsung 850EVO 120GB
Generic PSU 450w (I know I should get a better one, some months back my Antec went kaput and out of warranty. Hopefully I will get one soon).

BSOD stop code:
UNEXPECTED STORE EXCEPTION
KERNEL DATA INPAGE ERROR

And there may be one more stop code I might have seen, but don't remember. It's just a "may be", I am not sure if I have noticed another stop code in the last one month or so. Mostly UNEXPECTED STORE EXCEPTION.

It started about a month ago. At first I thought it's something to do with Gameloop/PUBGM update. Usually there is some hiccup during every update. And it happened only when I am in Gameloop/PUBGM. So I uninstalled and reinstalled Gameloop/PUBGM. But still I experienced BSOD, but with less number of times. Probably I didn't use Gameloop much since then, don't know.

About 10-15 days back, it happened while I was using Bluestacks which I use for Whatsapp. And last week, I was not using any emulator Gameloop or Bluestacks, just couple of Excel workbooks and few Chrome browser tabs. And there goes another BSOD. It was the only time it happened while no emulator was running. Now I started doubting on other things like hardware, drivers/software. I tried few software to check my RAM (Memtest86 by Passmark, Windows built-in memory diagnostics tool, memtest), about 4-5 apps to check SSD (Samsung magician, HDD, Seatools, HDD Scan, HD Sentinel and also Windows chkdsk feature). Everything came clean. I tried with just one stick, both the sticks together and every time RAM test results were good. I checked the wires, changed SATA cable, unplugged and re-plugged all the cables. Reset the BIOS to default settings. Updated all drivers - GPU, LAN, Chipset etc. I tried all these about 10-15 days before and again couple of days ago. Still it happens.

It doesn't BSOD more frequently. Initially it happened more I think, and someday there won't be any BSOD.

Just before BSOD app freezes (many a times I don't realize that), I can move mouse. If I click something again using mouse then everything freezes including mouse movement. After a good 45-90 seconds, I will see BSOD with stop code and it will take sometime and restarts. The restart stops at BIOS loading screen and restart again to BIOS and restart. The cycle will go on and on, I assume. I have to force shutdown by pressing power button for long and then power ON, it will start normally. If and when I realize that the app is gonna hang (you know when it's kinda freezing/stop responding to mouse click), I take my hands from the mouse and few seconds later it will respond then I can continue working. If I don't realize and click again, it goes to BSOD.

Tried Bluescreen viewer, but it shows nothing. Don't know if this would give you guys any clue, there are these two entries close to those shutdowns,

And one find in Eventlog, I guess this is the day the issue started. 5sec before this not clean shutdown error logged.

Less than 24hrs before this I updated Gameloop/PUBGM.

Stat:
19 days out of 26 days, not clean shutdown logged
At least 1 not clean shutdown a day and max of 3 not clean shutdowns a day
Total of 35 counts, but I don't think there were this many due to BSOD.
Out of that 13 were of Windows failed fast startup close to the time of not clean shutdown,
13 were of Dump file creation fail, and
9 don't have any other entries like dump file creation fail or fast startup fail close to not clean shutdowns.
And Max gap of over 3 days between not clean shutdowns.

Two more anomalies,
- Last week when I tried an Window update, it downloaded but failed to install and showed some error. I tried few times, but the results are same. It was Windows feature update.
- Then I didn't use the PC for few days. After a few days when I turned on, the time was showing wrong and I couldn't sync with windows server. So checked network traffic to see if anything using all the bandwidth, Windows was again downloading that failed update/install.

I can think of two more things,
One, I can stress test CPU and iGPU to see if I am getting BSOD there.
Two, fresh installation of Windows OS and see if it still happens after fresh installation.

Fresh installation of OS is a time consuming thing, so I can't do it right away. So the reason I haven't done it till now. Until now, I didn't think of stress testing CPU/GPU. Next in order is stress test.

What I should do now? Been googling for weeks now, but with no fix.
Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.


1) try running sfc /scannow as it fix most of the BSOD's. Try running it twice.

2) Try reverting to a backup point if you have made it.

3) Reinstall windows.
nac
nac #3
Oct 7, 2020 at 7:32 PM
1) try running sfc /scannow as it fix most of the BSOD's. Try running it twice.

2) Try reverting to a backup point if you have made it.

3) Reinstall windows.
Thank you.
I think I have done this before, but I again did it. No integrity violation.
You mean restore point, right? I have two points, one created when I installed drivers/tried windows update few days ago. And the another is about 2 weeks ago. None of them go back to first week of Sep or before.
Yeah, that's the last resort. If I have to do this, I will try it this weekend.
RumbaMon19
Oct 7, 2020 at 7:49 PM
Thank you.
I think I have done this before, but I again did it. No integrity violation.
You mean restore point, right? I have two points, one created when I installed drivers/tried windows update few days ago. And the another is about 2 weeks ago. None of them go back to first week of Sep or before.
Yeah, that's the last resort. If I have to do this, I will try it this weekend.


Yupp, I think it will be better to reinstall windows, Will save a lot of time too.
rhitwick
Oct 8, 2020 at 12:01 PM
Corsair Vengeance and Hyper X (4GB * 2 @ 2400mhz)
I see you've two RAM sticks.
Did you try with one stick and changing RAM slots?
nac
nac #6
Oct 8, 2020 at 3:29 PM
With generic PSU, running stress test is kinda risky. But I did try last night using Prime95.
First run - checked 'bundle all of the above' option and started the test. Within 40-45 seconds BSOD with stop code UNEXPECTED STORE EXCEPTION.
Second run - checked 'memory controllers and RAM' and let HWinfo write it's readings in CSV file. It ran about 2.5-3 minutes, then HWinfo frooze but task manager was running fine. I waited for about a minute or so (Prime95 was still running, I could see the charts in task manager, then I clicked HWinfo window. No response, so clicked task manager to see if the program shows as 'not responding'. But as soon as I clicked the second time, BSOD.

Dropped the idea of running stress test with this PSU.

Booted to check the CSV file to see if the temps/voltage readings. As soon as I started the stress test, the readings HWinfo wrote in the CSV file got corrupted and there were about 30 seconds worth of rows are corrupted and it was writing fine after that. While I was checking the file, another BSOD with the stop code CRITICAL PROCESS DIED. No other than one Excel file was running at that time.
Booted again, after few minutes next BSOD with the stop code CRITICA PROCESS DIED. It happened about handful of times after that while googling about this stop code and checking CSV file and Event viewer.

Then before going bed, I ran again chkdsk, sfcscan, windows image restore health, windows built in memory diag. Everything is fine.
I see you've two RAM sticks.
Did you try with one stick and changing RAM slots?
Yeah, I have tried one by one in different slots. Checked only the slots I use, not the empty ones. If I use some other slots, something pops up during POST (RAM sticks isn't in the primary slots or something like that). And I have tried both of them as well.
RumbaMon19
Oct 8, 2020 at 4:17 PM
With generic PSU, running stress test is kinda risky. But I did try last night using Prime95.
First run - checked 'bundle all of the above' option and started the test. Within 40-45 seconds BSOD with stop code UNEXPECTED STORE EXCEPTION.
Second run - checked 'memory controllers and RAM' and let HWinfo write it's readings in CSV file. It ran about 2.5-3 minutes, then HWinfo frooze but task manager was running fine. I waited for about a minute or so (Prime95 was still running, I could see the charts in task manager, then I clicked HWinfo window. No response, so clicked task manager to see if the program shows as 'not responding'. But as soon as I clicked the second time, BSOD.

Dropped the idea of running stress test with this PSU.

Booted to check the CSV file to see if the temps/voltage readings. As soon as I started the stress test, the readings HWinfo wrote in the CSV file got corrupted and there were about 30 seconds worth of rows are corrupted and it was writing fine after that. While I was checking the file, another BSOD with the stop code CRITICAL PROCESS DIED. No other than one Excel file was running at that time.
Booted again, after few minutes next BSOD with the stop code CRITICA PROCESS DIED. It happened about handful of times after that while googling about this stop code and checking CSV file and Event viewer.

Then before going bed, I ran again chkdsk, sfcscan, windows image restore health, windows built in memory diag. Everything is fine.

Yeah, I have tried one by one in different slots. Checked only the slots I use, not the empty ones. If I use some other slots, something pops up during POST (RAM sticks isn't in the primary slots or something like that). And I have tried both of them as well.


Most probably u would have, but have u checked this?error code
nac
nac #8
Oct 8, 2020 at 7:16 PM
Most probably u would have, but have u checked this?error code
Yeah, I have done pretty much every thing in there. The only thing I am yet to do is reset/refresh/fresh installation of Windows. I can't do it during weekdays. May be this weekend.
rhitwick
Oct 8, 2020 at 7:27 PM
Yeah, I have done pretty much every thing in there. The only thing I am yet to do is reset/refresh/fresh installation of Windows. I can't do it during weekdays. May be this weekend.
Windows provides an option to kind of factory reset your settings.

Most of the installed apps would be uninstalled, old windows folder would be backed up in a folder and MyDocuments fodler is also backed up.

That is the lowest impact way out of this.

I had done this 3-4 months back due to slow down of system and at times 100% usage of CPU and RAM even when only Excel and Chrome were running.
RumbaMon19
Oct 8, 2020 at 7:35 PM
reset/refresh/fresh installation of Windows

I prefer that u use official media creation tool and reinstall through that, because reset/refresh will eat a lot of time+Space.
nac
nac #11
Oct 8, 2020 at 7:53 PM
Most of the installed apps would be uninstalled,
Yeah, that's the reason I am postponing it. Anyway, I will have to backup all the data for safety reason. Reset or fresh installation would take about the same amount of time, so I prefer to go for fresh installation. Downloaded the file and made bootable USB.
To get the system back to how it is now will take a looong time. Usually, it will take weeks or months for me. Last time I did this was when I bought this system two years back.
I prefer that u use official media creation tool and reinstall through that, because reset/refresh will eat a lot of time+Space.
The issue with official media creation tool is that there is no pause/resume option. And with my bandwidth it will take half a day to download the file. If for any reason connection breaks, then I have to download all over again. So went for ISO option and created bootable USB with Rufus.

By the way, no BSOD for the whole day.
RumbaMon19
Oct 8, 2020 at 10:41 PM
Yeah, that's the reason I am postponing it. Anyway, I will have to backup all the data for safety reason. Reset or fresh installation would take about the same amount of time, so I prefer to go for fresh installation. Downloaded the file and made bootable USB.
To get the system back to how it is now will take a looong time. Usually, it will take weeks or months for me. Last time I did this was when I bought this system two years back.

The issue with official media creation tool is that there is no pause/resume option. And with my bandwidth it will take half a day to download the file. If for any reason connection breaks, then I have to download all over again. So went for ISO option and created bootable USB with Rufus.

By the way, no BSOD for the whole day.


Good if you didn't faced it today, but try to be on the safer side.


That too should work.
nac
nac #13
Oct 9, 2020 at 2:38 PM
Last night tried the windows updated which failed repetitively before. It took forever to download the file, I thought again it's gonna fail. But then it started installing. At 40% BSOD with stop code UNEXPECTED STORE EXCEPTION. Luckily it happened while I was still in Windows environment, not during configuring/setting up/installing with the blue screen displays a message "don't turn off your pc while updating".
Booted again, it started where it left before crashing. From 40% to 100% it took about 45 minutes to complete, then a windows popped to restart. I restarted, it took another 5-10 minutes and few restarts to complete the update.

Thinking about trying this for a week. This 2004 version is like a fresh installation. If it's okay, probably I won't be needing fresh installation of Windows again.
RumbaMon19
Oct 9, 2020 at 2:57 PM
Last night tried the windows updated which failed repetitively before. It took forever to download the file, I thought again it's gonna fail. But then it started installing. At 40% BSOD with stop code UNEXPECTED STORE EXCEPTION. Luckily it happened while I was still in Windows environment, not during configuring/setting up/installing with the blue screen displays a message "don't turn off your pc while updating".
Booted again, it started where it left before crashing. From 40% to 100% it took about 45 minutes to complete, then a windows popped to restart. I restarted, it took another 5-10 minutes and few restarts to complete the update.

Thinking about trying this for a week. This 2004 version is like a fresh installation. If it's okay, probably I won't be needing fresh installation of Windows again.


The same happened with me this morning. I set it to update 4 in the morning, It too got stuck at updating. I waited till 10 in the morning, Then I switched it off forcibly, After boot, it started and continued update which took mere 2 mins to complete. I think it is a bug.
pkkumarcool
Oct 10, 2020 at 2:48 PM
Windows 10 is full with BSOD errors i myself encounter them in a day or two.
nac
nac #16
Oct 11, 2020 at 3:54 PM
Tried Gameloop last Friday, BSOD with stop code SYSTEM SERVICE EXCEPTION within few minutes of launching. Booted again and played for few hours. No further BSOD till now.
Yesterday while I was in Gameloop, it froze and I thought it's gonna crash. Hwinfo and Task manager was running at that time. As soon as it froze, CPU utilization went down all the way to single digit in %. I waited for a while, but no crash. Closed the app and launched it again.
I will continue using this 2004 Windows update and see if I am experiencing any BSOD and let you guys know next weekend.
nac
nac #17
Oct 15, 2020 at 10:04 PM
Played last weekend, no BSOD.
Pretty much it was fine until yesterday night while playing PUBGM. It was running fine for few games and then it started. Checked for new updates in the last week and updated them as well.
It repeatedly happened about 7-8 times. Whenever this happens, CPU usage goes down to single digit in % from 75% and disk usage goes to 100% from 0 - single digit % (I keep the task manager open). By the way, still no minidumps. :(
Reset paging file - still crashing
Removed paging file - still crashing.
Check disk for errors - Good
Ran HDD tools - Healthy

I guess I will fresh install OS this weekend. I have already started taking backups. Pretty much all my pen drive, mobile phone storage is full. There were some suggestions online about doing secure erase of SSD before installing Windows. One of the suggested option is using USB bootable drive - Samsung has it's own tool for that. Now I have to ask people if they have any spare pen drive I can borrow. My board BIOS have secure erase+, don't know if it's as good/same as the USB bootable version.
nac
nac #18
Oct 18, 2020 at 11:51 PM
Couldn't get a spare pen drive from anyone, so didn't try Samsung Magician's secure erase tool before installing of OS.
Some reported that they got their drive locked after using MSI secure erase+, so I didn't want to try that as I already have lot of issues to deal with.

Installed Windows 10 yesterday, it was lot quicker than I remember. Probably coz I did this time with USB pen drive.
Played last night, it was going good for hours, then it happened. So I guess, culprit is not the OS here.
Don't know what could be the possible reason for 100% disk usage then crashing.
Tried more than half a dozen drive checking tools, none pointing the drive.

I have been troubleshooting this issue for over a month now, still couldn't find the issue and fix it.
pkkumarcool
Oct 19, 2020 at 9:58 AM
Do you remember something installed newly and before that the system was running fine? Maybe a new ram or hdd.
BSOD generally happens due to incompatible hardware(I think your case) or software which doesn’t seem to be in this case.
Worst case scenario your hdd has bad sectors as far as I can guess.


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rhitwick
rhitwick #20
Oct 19, 2020 at 11:37 AM
100% high disk usage can be caused by Telemetry (Should You Disable Windows 10 Telemetry? - Smart Buyer) try disabling this. A lot of users reported this being main issue for high disk usage and 100% CPU usage.

But, what worries me is that you refreshed OS recently, did you install all softwares again (that you had before OS refresh)?
also, how many peripherals are connected to your system at a time. Try to remove those that you don't absolutely need.
Try to live one day without those and check.

You must have written already but still let me ask, bad sectors in HDD? Did you check? If not, check once.
nac
nac #21
Oct 19, 2020 at 12:32 PM
Do you remember something installed newly and before that the system was running fine? Maybe a new ram or hdd.
BSOD generally happens due to incompatible hardware(I think your case) or software which doesn’t seem to be in this case.
Worst case scenario your hdd has bad sectors as far as I can guess.
I have been using this exact setup for about a year now. No changes.
I can claim warranty if any drive tools says it's faulty. But everything says, no bad sectors, healthy, good etc...
This 100% disk usage hits only when it's about to crash. Otherwise it almost always stay under 1%.
100% high disk usage can be caused by Telemetry (Should You Disable Windows 10 Telemetry? - Smart Buyer) try disabling this. A lot of users reported this being main issue for high disk usage and 100% CPU usage.

But, what worries me is that you refreshed OS recently, did you install all softwares again (that you had before OS refresh)?
also, how many peripherals are connected to your system at a time. Try to remove those that you don't absolutely need.
Try to live one day without those and check.

You must have written already but still let me ask, bad sectors in HDD? Did you check? If not, check once.
I'll try that.
No, I haven't installed all the software. I'll slowly install them in the coming weeks.
Not many peripherals are connected. It's very minimal. If I have to remove something and still work, then I can remove headphone and DVD drive.
I connect pen drive only when I need it. No webcam, PCIe card, sound card etc.
The only clue I have is, system freezes - then disk usage climbs to 100% - then BSOD. It won't restart on it's own, I have to hard shutdown and boot again. And nothing in minidumps.
Yes, I have checked with about 6-8 HDD/SSD checking tools. No bad sectors. It's good and healthy.
rhitwick
rhitwick #22
Oct 19, 2020 at 1:17 PM
one last thing, CPU temperature.

Try monitoring CPU temperature throughout one use that leads to BSOD.
Notice if any jump.

Another could be causing is FAN issue if CPU fan is not running or not running properly.

Somehow I feel issue could be causing by ur PSU. How old is it?
nac
nac #23
Oct 19, 2020 at 2:04 PM
one last thing, CPU temperature.
Another could be causing is FAN issue if CPU fan is not running or not running properly.

Somehow I feel issue could be causing by ur PSU. How old is it?
CPU temps are good. Using HWinfo to check for any crazy numbers. Goes as high as low 70s and sustain around mid 60's when playing games.
During normal usage temps are around mid 40s
One of first things I checked are fans. Both PSU's and CPU's are running fine.
PSU is pretty old. It was already two years old when I retired this one for Antec PSU 4yrs back. But when Antec gone kaput last year and I put this one back. I have been meaning to get a new one. Hopefully I will get one soon.
rhitwick
rhitwick #24
Oct 19, 2020 at 3:19 PM
hmmm, so far you've almost analyzed all parts of your system part by part. I believe there are some logical explanation which I'm not knowledgeable enough to point out.

However one final qn, beep sound from MOBO. Do you get any when BSOD hits?

And, your MOBO may be having a CMOS display code either visible from outside or from insde. Keep an eye what code is displayed the moment it hits BSOD.

Can explore this area, else, I've nothing much for you (for the time being remove DVD drive and use couple of days)
nac
nac #25
Oct 19, 2020 at 11:06 PM
However one final qn, beep sound from MOBO. Do you get any when BSOD hits?

And, your MOBO may be having a CMOS display code either visible from outside or from insde. Keep an eye what code is displayed the moment it hits BSOD.

Can explore this area, else, I've nothing much for you (for the time being remove DVD drive and use couple of days)
I have installed speaker in the board, usually when I power ON I hear the beep. But when BSOD, system stays ON and no beep at all.
Yes, my board has this EZ Debug LED. But I don't think it's reliable. Thank you. This didn't strike my mind till now. I will check when it happens next time.

When system BSOD, it restarts the system. But I see just a blank screen (not sure if I see blank screen or monitor displays "no signal" message. I should've remember after so many BSODs :( ). So there should be some clue in EZ Debug. Thanks again.
rhitwick
rhitwick #26
Oct 20, 2020 at 12:21 PM
Lets note down all the components that you've analyzed and concluded 'not' causing this BSOD.

Whatever left, are causing it.
nac
nac #27
Oct 20, 2020 at 11:35 PM
Lets note down all the components that you've analyzed and concluded 'not' causing this BSOD.

Whatever left, are causing it.
Based on the tests I have done so far, I am ruling out OS, SSD and RAM.
There is no tool to check CPU/iGPU. Same goes for Motherboard and PSU.
Most of the BSOD happened when I played. So keeping the task manager and HWinfo opened when I play. I may likely to notice the app/process which makes the disk usage hit the roof.
Yet to understand how to disable telemetry. There were some suggestions online that to turn off windows search, superfetch etc. I guess those suggestions are for those who have disk usage 100% all the time or most of the time.
I will keep updating here when the next BSOD happens and the troubleshoot I tried.
BTW, no crashes for the last two days.
rhitwick
rhitwick #28
Oct 21, 2020 at 11:46 AM
From ur analysis so far I suspect PSU and/or MOBO behind this issue.

Would wait for further update from you.
topgear
topgear #29
Oct 26, 2020 at 9:13 AM
1. That generic PSU can't cope up with the components so first get a better PSU than the generic one.
2. Try with a different HDD or SSD .. I've one WD black which showed SMART error of uncorrectable sector count and when I zero formatted it and installed win10 afresh the Smart values were back to normal but the HDD performance was pathetic to say the least. So don't rule out the storage device.
3. Try with a dedicated GPU .. get one from some friend.
nac
nac #30
Oct 26, 2020 at 7:10 PM
1. That generic PSU can't cope up with the components so first get a better PSU than the generic one.
2. Try with a different HDD or SSD .. I've one WD black which showed SMART error of uncorrectable sector count and when I zero formatted it and installed win10 afresh the Smart values were back to normal but the HDD performance were pathetic to say the least. So don';t rule out the storage device.
3. Try with a dedicated GPU .. get one from some friend.
1. Yeah, gotta get one soon.
2. Kinda tough to get a new one or borrow from someone. Based on the drive checking tools, it's fine and good.
3. I have GT710, I can use that.
x----------------x--------------------x
No more BSOD after the last one about a week ago, longest without a BSOD since it started.
rhitwick
rhitwick #31
Oct 27, 2020 at 1:16 PM
Seems the BSOD god was pleased with the effort you put there!

You've time now (and online sales going on), get a good PSU.
nac
nac #32
Nov 8, 2020 at 3:30 PM
After 3 weeks, there was BSOD yesterday. Twice back to back while playing. So stopped playing after the second one.

Things observed.
After the BSOD, EZ Debug LED shows it's VGA (though I highly doubt it's reliability).
Task manager shows no clue of which process makes the disk usage to 100%.

Other than a very few BSODs, all were when I played games. So if I use GT710, I don't think I can play. If I don't play there won't be any BSOD whether I use GT710 or iGPU. Anyway, I am gonna try it with GT710 for sometime and let you guys know. Before that I am gonna uninstall the latest graphics driver, the one I have. It's an optional one and install the recommended one.
topgear
topgear #33
Nov 9, 2020 at 6:59 AM
After 3 weeks, there was BSOD yesterday. Twice back to back while playing. So stopped playing after the second one.

Things observed.
After the BSOD, EZ Debug LED shows it's VGA (though I highly doubt it's reliability).
Task manager shows no clue of which process makes the disk usage to 100%.

Other than a very few BSODs, all were when I played games. So if I use GT710, I don't think I can play. If I don't play there won't be any BSOD whether I use GT710 or iGPU. Anyway, I am gonna try it with GT710 for sometime and let you guys know. Before that I am gonna uninstall the latest graphics driver, the one I have. It's an optional one and install the recommended one.

Try running Crysis ( the old one ) and it's enough to bring GT 710 to the limits. BTW, if you are using the onboard ( igpu ) then the ram or the PSU - I suspect the PSU here. Bad PSU can be the root of many problems. Do change it.
nac
nac #34
Nov 9, 2020 at 7:57 PM
Yeah, should get a new PSU ASAP.
MWE 450 Bronze v2 costs about 3k
P450B Bronze costs about 2.6k
Will get one of the above.
nac
nac #35
Nov 15, 2020 at 9:47 PM
Several BSOD in the last week, all while playing.

Placed order for MWE 450 Bronze V2. Will receive it in few days. Will see if the new one fixes the issue.
rhitwick
rhitwick #36
Nov 16, 2020 at 7:48 PM
why 450? Why not 650?
rhitwick
rhitwick #38
Nov 16, 2020 at 9:22 PM
ai....not sarcasm.
650 would have been futureproof.

Anyway, best of luck!
nac
nac #39
Nov 17, 2020 at 10:02 AM
I don't think I would ever need that much.
nac
nac #41
Nov 20, 2020 at 3:14 PM
How old is your pc what are its specs?
About two years old.
2200G+B450+SSD+ODD+2x4GB
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Installed the new PSU.
Longest without BSOD with old PSU was about 3 weeks, so I will try this new one for that much time and see if I am still getting BSOD with the new one too. :Fingerx:

CM packing is not as good as Antec. CM just had thin bubble wrap, nothing else. Antec had paper carton like thing (you know something like egg carton). And lighter than Antec VP450P.
nac
nac #42
Nov 28, 2020 at 2:26 PM
With the generic PSU, I couldn't run anything if I use GT710. All I could do was install Nvidia driver. After that all I could do is just boot to windows and come to desktop screen. Even launching browser makes the screen go blank (no BSOD, just screen goes blank but system runs). I wasn't sure if there is something wrong with GPU (it's been idle for about 2yrs now).

For the last one week I have been running GT710 with the new PSU. It's running fine. Surprised I could run PUBGM (Gameloop) with the same graphics setting I usually play (which is smooth/extreme). Just that temp shoots up as high as 90c, averaging around high 70. Even for normal use, GPU temp gets to 60c.

Back to iGPU now. Looks like PSU was the one causing issues. But not so sure.
Finally cleaned the system after a long time. Temps are 10-15% better. Never seen idling @ low 30.
Took few snaps.
*i.imgur.com/elz8nuO.png