Budget Office PC · DIGIT-ARC

1. What is the purpose of the computer? What all applications and games are you going to run? (Stupid answers like 'gaming' or 'office work' will not work. Be exact. Which games? Which applications? Avoid the word 'et cetera.')
Ans:
MS Office, SQL server 2016, VS2017(maybe), custom built WinForms software for POS/Accounts,
CCTV Viewing(16 cameras) using Hikvision ivms4200 on LAN
Internet browsing for GST related things like uploading forms, etc

2. What is your overall budget? If you can extend a bit for a more balanced configuration, then mention this too.
Ans:
20-30k

3. Planning to overclock?
Ans:
No

4. Which Operating System are you planning to use?
Ans:
Win 10(Have it)
5. How much hard drive space is needed?
Ans:
120gb SSD

6. Do you want to buy a monitor? If yes, please mention which screen size and resolution do you want. If you already have a monitor and want to reuse it, again mention the size and resolution of monitor you have.
Ans:
Nope

7. Which components you DON'T want to buy or which components you already have and plan on reusing?
Ans:
Need to buy only CPU, RAM, Mobo, PSU, SSD, Cabinet

8. When are you planning to buy the system?
Ans:
Today or tomorrow MAX(Online)

9. Have you ever built a desktop before or will this be done by an assembler?
Ans:
Myself, built many
10. Where do you live? Are you buying locally? Are you open to buying stuff from online shops if you don't get locally?
Ans: RJY- AP, will buy online only

11. Anything else which you would like to say?
Ans:
Want a rugged, fail-proof, robust PC. HDMI for future-proofing. A GIGABYTE, Corsair fanboy. Own 6x cx430, 6x gigabyte mobo, 4x samsung SSD and they never failed on me till now. fan since 2011

My reliable builds so far

Intel G620 GIGABYTE GA-H61M-D2H Corsair CX430 840 EVO Corsair 4GB vengeance 1600MHz
AMD FX 6300 GIGABYTE GA-970A-DS3P Corsair CX430 840 EVO Corsair 4GB vengeance 1600MHz
INTEL G3220 GIGABYTE B85M-D3H Corsair CX430 850 EVO Corsair 4GB vengeance 1600MHz
INTEL G3240 GIGABYTE GA-H81M-S2PH Corsair CX430 750 EVO x2 Corsair 4GB vengeance 1600MHz

Going for MSI so that I can fit a i3 this time, and I don't want to bottleneck the RAM with the pentium proccy this time

Rs.4190 MSI H110M-PRO-VH PLUS
Rs.4365 Corsair Vengeance® LPX 8GB DDR4 DRAM 2400MHz
Rs.8311 Intel Core i3-7100
---------- SSD? fan of samsung 750/840/850 120gb but N/A
---------- PSU? fan of corsair CX430 but N/A
---------- Cabinet?(Cheapest but professional, with window = great)

i3 7100 is a waste of money compared to G4560 and the latter won't bottleneck the ram either.

AMD hasn't released ryzen 3 or am4 APUs yet which could've been a great alternative in your budget.

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SaiyanGoku said:
i3 7100 is a waste of money compared to G4560 and the latter won't bottleneck the ram either.

AMD hasn't released ryzen 3 or am4 APUs yet which could've been a great alternative in your budget.

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I'm in a hurry because of GST.
Need to buy 2x PC's.
And CX430 is out of stock , Samsung ssd is Out of stock.
G4560 saves Rs.2.8k... its for 5.5k on Amazon

kARTechnology said:
I'm in a hurry because of GST.
Need to buy 2x PC's.
And CX430 is out of stock , Samsung ssd is Out of stock.
G4560 saves Rs.2.8k... its for 5.5k on Amazon

Check locally, mdcomputers, itdepot, primeabgb. G4560 costs under 5k.

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SaiyanGoku said:
Check locally, mdcomputers, itdepot, primeabgb. G4560 costs under 5k.

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kARTechnology said:
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So what did you finally buy?
I wanted the g4560 for my pc build, but I am not able to source it anywhere for reasonable prices.

Adityag said:
So what did you finally buy?
I wanted the g4560 for my pc build, but I am not able to source it anywhere for reasonable prices.

Still did not. max by tomorrow should order all parts.
What PSU do I buy? Corsair VS is not that much good right?
SSD too...what to buy?
guys help me!

850 EVO is currently being sold on ebay for Rs 6800, for that price its a very good deal, but It may overshoot your budget by a lot..
Other than that, you can try 750 EVO or refurbished intel SSDs available on ebay for Rs 3k ish

Nerevarine said:
850 EVO is currently being sold on ebay for Rs 6800, for that price its a very good deal, but It may overshoot your budget by a lot..
Other than that, you can try 750 EVO or refurbished intel SSDs available on ebay for Rs 3k ish

Intel refurbs seems to be years old. like 2011-2012(320/520) EOL...too much age = life of NAND reduced?, no warranty too...
WD SSD scores worst in performance.
I see no other brand than samsung in performance in budget range

How about Liteon 120gb

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You won't get g4560 this month.

sumit05 said:
You won't get g4560 this month.

okay then i will go for the i3.
what about PSU, SSD?

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For psu go for antec vp550p v2.

sumit05 said:
For psu go for antec vp550p v2.

I see cx430 available in primeabgb

sumit05 said:
For psu go for antec vp550p v2.

SSD?

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if you don't have to use PC urgently and buying only because of gst , then buy all other components and leave out CPU.. buy g4560 when available

otherwise compromise on performance or price..

for SSD .. Samsung 750 Evo 120 gb is the fastest budget SSD but if it is overpriced or not available the second best alternative I think would be the new
Kingston A400 120gb ..

if you can find seasonic eco 430 then buy that otherwise go with VP550p v2 PSU specifically this model.. if budget constrained then pick Vs450

CX 430 and vs450 have been discontinued so that is why it is out of stock on many places...
the newer models are CX 450 or VS 400

sumit05 said:
For psu go for antec vp550p v2.

550w psu for office systems? why??
@OP buy any branded (VS, CX series etc. etc.) psu which costs cheap and you should be good.

Bought
MSI H110M-PRO-VH PLUS =Rs.4140
Intel Core i3 7100 =Rs.8052
DEEPCOOL D-SHIELD =Rs.2684

need to buy SSD,PSU,RAM

GUYS HELP ME! what psu to buy? antec VP OoS, only corsair VS available...
I see many poeple have failed VS PSU's

Bought Corsair DDR4 2400Mhz 8gb @ 4360
samsung 850 evo 250gb @ 6739

difference between antec vp-500pc and vp 450p?

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kARTechnology said:
difference between antec vp-500pc and vp 450p?

None of them.. as they are of roughly same quality as VS450
either get Vs450 or get Vp550P v2

With office build "if you switch off main AC plug after shutting down pc" then

Average expected life ..

Vs450 will last you around 4 years
VP550P v2 around 6 years
Seasonic S12II 430 around 10 years

Choose according to your budget and how much do you want it to last..

and I hope you are not going to use it with UPS for long periods ? or don't have any power problems like fluctuations then avoid vs450 and at least get vp550p

gta5 said:
None of them.. as they are of roughly same quality as VS450
either get Vs450 or get Vp550P v2

With office build "if you switch off main AC plug after shutting down pc" then

Average expected life ..

Vs450 will last you around 4 years
VP550P v2 around 6 years
Seasonic S12II 430 around 10 years

Choose according to your budget and how much do you want it to last..

and I hope you are not going to use it with UPS for long periods ? or don't have any power problems like fluctuations then avoid vs450 and at least get vp550p

vp550p is costly on amazon...

It will be on 12 hrs a day. sometimes 24x7.
I have pure sinewave inverter. always in 180-264v voltage input, complete protection.

currently a cx430 server (of Pentium g3240) is 24x7 on a since 1.5 years

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kARTechnology said:
vp550p is costly on amazon...

It will be on 12 hrs a day. sometimes 24x7.
I have pure sinewave inverter. always in 180-264v voltage input, complete protection.

currently a cx430 server (of Pentium g3240) is 24x7 on a since 1.5 years

you are going to get maximum return out of your investment from seasonic S12II 430 .. as it will last a very long time even with 24x7 usage around 7 years and has a 5 year warranty but upfront cost is high Rs 4750 on overclockerszone and may require a high VA capacity inverter to work correctly with inverter during power cuts.. otherwise

Cx430 Is available for Rs 3500 from hardwire.in

Buy Corsair CX 430 W Online | India

Also in stock on theitwares for 3650 but to me it isn't a good value at that price..

gta5 said:
you are going to get maximum return out of your investment from seasonic S12II 430 .. as it will last a very long time even with 24x7 usage around 7 years and has a 5 year warranty but upfront cost is high Rs 4750 on overclockerszone and may require a high VA capacity inverter to work correctly with inverter during power cuts.. otherwise

Cx430 Is available for Rs 3500 from hardwire.in

Buy Corsair CX 430 W Online | India

Also in stock on theitwares for 3650 but to me it isn't a good value at that price..

What u said Is right...
I couldn't resist and bought Samsung 250 gb 850 evo. 5 year warranty.
Couldn't resist an bought a windowed cabinet just for the sake of bottom mount psu so that psu runs cool..

Now budget reached 30k :O
Should I try after gst for psu
Current situation:
It's like some war/ crysis / floods/draught coming ahed..

:ashamed:

where is seasonic available?

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kARTechnology said:
What u said Is right...
I couldn't resist and bought Samsung 250 gb 850 evo. 5 year warranty.
Couldn't resist an bought a windowed cabinet just for the sake of bottom mount psu so that psu runs cool..

Now budget reached 30k :O
Should I try after gst for psu
Current situation:
It's like some war/ crysis / floods/draught coming ahed..

ohh you did good by buying that cabby., it will prolong the life of PSU.. but you could have bought G4560 at 5800 from primeabgb .. and put that 2k into PSU .. anyways that's done now ..

it's just the worst time to buy PC parts

-Ram and SSD prices are super high due to supply shortage
- g4560 supply shortage
- amd GPUs out of stock due to miners ..
- and the upcoming GST.. monitors will cost 10% more

Corsair still hasn't launched the new VS and Cx series in India inspite of being launched 6 months ago Western countries.. they hardly have left over stock left. I don't know why are they delaying it..

the new CX 450 now has a 5 year warranty ... so if they launch it next month that could be a good option for 3-3.5k..

S12II 430 here..

Seasonic S12II-430 S12II Series 430W Power Supply with 80+ Bronze Certification

but I hope you have a high "available" VA capacity inverter as seasonic demands higher VA UPS/inverter than other PSU's otherwise it is going to be a big headache ... and may overload inverter and turn off during switch overs.. minimum 800 VA available I think.

gta5 said:
ohh you did good by buying that cabby., it will prolong the life of PSU.. but you could have bought G4560 at 5800 from primeabgb .. and put that 2k into PSU .. anyways that's done now ..

it's just the worst time to buy PC parts

-Ram and SSD prices are super high due to supply shortage
- g4560 supply shortage
- amd GPUs out of stock due to miners ..
- and the upcoming GST.. monitors will cost 10% more

Corsair still hasn't launched the new VS and Cx series in India inspite of being launched 6 months ago Western countries.. they hardly have left over stock left. I don't know why are they delaying it..

the new CX 450 now has a 5 year warranty ... so if they launch it next month that could be a good option for 3-3.5k..

S12II 430 here..

Seasonic S12II-430 S12II Series 430W Power Supply with 80+ Bronze Certification

but I hope you have a high "available" VA capacity inverter as seasonic demands higher VA UPS/inverter than other PSU's otherwise it is going to be a headache ... and may overload inverter and turn off during switch overs..

I have always bought things from eBay and amazon, FK only...never at the direct retail storefront's website...
They didnt list it over eBay :cry:

I bought the case from overclockerszone on ebay with a coupon(GRAB3000FF)...

Isn't 1000va / 1 kva enough? its not like that seasonic's draw more power!

What about Kabylake/Skylake PSU support? I read that some PSU do not support the new Intel sleep feature

bought cx430 for 3.8k @ amazon
I have a cx430 that makes fan noise...if i do RMA would I get the new CX450 in future? or just a fan replacement?

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that was fast.. amazon fk are most of the times expeansive ..

1000va would have beem good if you dont have other pc or other high loads attached to it...

Seasonic compatibility with UPS is a well known tricky issue .. whether that is because of a high inrush current or seasonic's APFC design .. hard to say... My guess is they have higher inrush current compared to others as they use a higher capacity primary cap than others ... 600 and 650va ups usually have problems ( some work fine some not ) .. 800va and up seems to work fine...

seasonic isnt haswell ready so c6 c7 power statez not supported you can disable in bios and it will work fine with sleep mode..

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post full config with price once you are done. :emoji_grinning:

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and i can see antec vp550p at amazon for Rs 4200 .. this would have been a much much better buy than cx 430 at Rs 3800..
the slight issue is that it only has a 2 year warranty and if i am not wrong i think you have to send it to seller for rma .. but still this is of much higher quality and will last longer.. if this Psu receives proper airflow expect 4-5 years 24x7 usage..

i would say cancel cx 430 and buy vp550p v2 offline preferablu for easy returm if you require RMAjust in case , you can get it for 3800-4000 offline.. otherwise buy it from amaon..

gta5 said:
and i can see antec vp550p at amazon for Rs 4200 .. this would have been a much much better buy than cx 430 at Rs 3800..
the slight issue is that it only has a 2 year warranty and if i am not wrong i think you have to send it to seller for rma .. but still this is of much higher quality and will last longer.. if this Psu receives proper airflow expect 4-5 years 24x7 usage..

i would say cancel cx 430 and buy vp550p v2 offline preferablu for easy returm if you require RMAjust in case , you can get it for 3800-4000 offline.. otherwise buy it from amaon..

I received the cx430 today...
The thing is, the part where the
psu top cover that fits into the bottom part came out on the side that is not visible when the fan is downwards(warranty seal intact) in transit (no visible damage on box)
Thinking of returning / to use that...

Got the proccy, mobo(was shocked to see no seal and the Anti Static Cover was already opened and called up the seller and he figured out that due to bios update it should have been opened...
booted up..ssd, ram, everything came.
tomorrow cabinet will arrive...

I see there was some cardboard dust on the intel heat-sink where the thermal paste is..Should I contact intel and tell them, previously they used to have a clear plastic hard cover at that part now they are going-green and used only cardboard...the sharp edges of the heat-sink rubbed against the cardboard to make small dust particles...
I installed one processor in a hurry and noticed afterwards when taking pics of the second build...(ordered parts for 2 builds)
should I remove, clean and apply new thermal paste? worried.

Will post pics soon!

kARTechnology said:
Bought Corsair DDR4 2400Mhz 8gb @ 4360
samsung 850 evo 250gb @ 6739

HyperX HX421C14FB2/8 Fury 8GB DDR4 RAM (Black)

Found the Corsair cx430 making grinding noises and fan was struggling to rotate :cryeyesout:

...its was only 6 hrs powered on for a memtest overnight. that too in a air-con room.
asked for a refund on amazon...

Nerevarine said:
HyperX HX421C14FB2/8 Fury 8GB DDR4 RAM (Black)

How is it possible?

Edit: its a refurb.

go for seasonic or antec. entry level corsair psu s are not worthy now. or of u get a second hand corsair vx450 or vx550 grab it.

*i.imgur.com/WmUFBDa.jpg
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*i.imgur.com/9LWTMaV.jpg
*i.imgur.com/CQzeENm.jpg
*i.imgur.com/b3DLliz.jpg
Returned as fan was erratically working making noises, struggling to rotate...
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*i.imgur.com/IsOUiFT.jpg
Gorgeous Premium Front Look
*i.imgur.com/SK4dFo1.jpg
Green LED power and Yellow LED HDD...bad combination?
*i.imgur.com/gsBIEZm.jpg

Please help with the power supply, so confusing and no proper online store to buy safely without damage?
before I ordered from theitwares ebay and it came perfect with no damage...amazon always handles roughly

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Does the mobo support 7th gen out of the box?

sumit05 said:
Does the mobo support 7th gen out of the box?

No, You have to update the bios before using any Skylake processor.

sumit05 said:
Does the mobo support 7th gen out of the box?

Came seal opened...called up seller and he told as the BIOS is updated by hand...
So yes not factory updated bios but these are boards that arrived before the bios was released so was manually updated by seller / msi after import..
newer versions should come with updated bios i guess.

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Congrats kARTechnology