Building a new budget Gaming PC after a long time

I am building this PC as want to start gaming again after not able to play them for 5 years. I am a AMD fan.

What is the purpose of the computer? What all applications and games are you going to run? (Be exact. Which games? Which applications? Avoid the word 'et cetera.' Vague answers like 'gaming' or 'office work' will not work.)
Ans: This PC will be for gaming purpose only. I used to play games like GTA series, Far Cry series, Assassin Creed series, Crysis series......etc

2. What is your overall budget? If you can extend a bit for a more balanced configuration, then please mention.
Ans: I will be buying things in parts over 2-3 months, let's say 50k which can be increased upto 60k as components will be bought in batches.

3. Planning to overclock?
Ans: Yes, but in future.

4. Which Operating System are you planning to use?
Ans: Windows 10.

5. How much hard drive / solid-state drive space is needed?
Ans: No HDD needed for now, but will buy SSD.

6. Do you want to buy a monitor? If yes, please mention the screen size and resolution you prefer. If you already have a monitor and want to reuse it, then do mention the screen size and resolution of the monitor you have.
Ans: Please suggest a 24 inch Monitor(AOC preferred) which I will buy in future but right now, will use my 19 inch monitor.

7. Which components you DON'T want to buy? i.e. which components you already have and plan on reusing?
Ans: I have Seasonic S|| 520 W power supply and will be using my Antec GX 700 cabinet.

8. When are you planning to buy the system?
Ans: March 2021

9. Have you ever built a desktop before? Or, will this be done by an assembler?
Ans:Yes, I have built PC two times.

10. Where do you live? Are you buying locally? Are you open to buying stuff from online shops if you don't get locally?
Ans: I will buy it from both online and Nehru Palace, wherever I can get cheaper.

11. Anything else which you would like to say?
Ans: I am planning to buy used graphic card and is open to buy used CPU and Mobo if available. Also I am building this PC with mind set that I will keep upgading the processor to keep this PC up-to-date with future games so suggest accordingly.

Garv1386 said:
2. What is your overall budget? If you can extend a bit for a more balanced configuration, then please mention.
Ans: I will be buying things in parts over 2-3 months, so can't comment on budget but it's going to be a budget PC build.

100k PC can be a "budget build" for someone and 10k for others, Be specific.

Garv1386 said:
6. Do you want to buy a monitor? If yes, please mention the screen size and resolution you prefer. If you already have a monitor and want to reuse it, then do mention the screen size and resolution of the monitor you have.
Ans: I will buy a 32 inch LED TV in future but right now, will use my 19 inch monitor.

Cheap TVs are crap for gaming usage. Unless you are getting a 4k 120Hz gync OLED one, don't buy it for PC.

SaiyanGoku said:
100k PC can be a "budget build" for someone and 10k for others, Be specific.

Cheap TVs are crap for gaming usage. Unless you are getting a 4k 120Hz gync OLED one, don't buy it for PC.

Thanks for guidance, updated

Budget -65k (AMD Gaming Rig) GTX 1650 4GB DDDR6

Processor -AMD Ryzen 5 3500 -12.3k
Motherboard -Asrock B450M/ac -8.3k
RAM -G.Skill SniperX 16GB(8GBx2) 3600Mhz -8.1k (primeabgb.com)
SSD -Gigabyte 1TB NVME SSD -9k
Power Supply -Already using your Seasonic S12 520w
GPU -Zotac Gaming GTX 1650 4GB DDR6 -16.1k
Monitor -BenQ GW2480 24inch LED IPS -9.6k
Cabinet -Already using your Antec GX700
KB & Mouse -HP KM300F Gaming Combo -1.6k (amazon.in)

Total -65K

All above components prices are taken from vedantcomputers unless otherwise specified.

PS: Vedantcomputers does not take payment gateway charges and provides free shipping all over India. I bought from them my present PC in Oct,2019 so can vouch for them.

Put fanboy-ism out of the window as your budget isn't high enough to allow for that, if you want best components for your money. Many Ryzen CPUs, esp budget ones are overpriced right now. Intel i5 10400 is like 10% inferior to R5 3600 but at a cheaper price & has iGPU.

Another big issue is GPU. Currently, most good ones are overpriced a lot, like GTX 1660S is 27k instead of 19k & you could have bought an RTX 2060 for 25-27k.

CPU - Intel i5 10400 - 15.5k (has iGPU)

Mobo - MSI B460M Pro VDH WiFi - 9k

RAM - 2x8GB DDR4 2666+MHz - 6k*

GPU - GTX 1660 Super - 27k

SSD - Kingston A400 240GB - 2.5k

HDD - WD/Seagate 1TB - 3.2k

PSU - Yours

Cabinet - Yours

Total - 63.2k

*Get 2666MHz RAM but sometimes higher freq RAM is cheaper. Say a 3000MHz RAM will underclock & run at 2666.

Monitor - Acer Nitro VG240YP 24″ 1080p 144Hz IPS Freesync - 13.5k (great value, I'm using it)

Regarding GPU, you can maybe buy a used RX570 or GTX 1060 for 7-9k & use it for now. BTW that rig will boot without a GPU because of Intel GPU, so you can take some time to hunt for a good used GPU & maybe buy a new GPU later this year when price frenzy is over.

Budget -61.6k (AMD Gaming Rig)

Processor -AMD Ryzen 5 3400G -13.9k (has iGPU) (mdcomputers.in)
Motherboard -Asrock B450M/ac Wifi -7.5k (Supports upto RAM frequency upto 3533Mhz)
RAM -G.Skill SniperX 16GB(8GBx2) 3600Mhz -8.1k (primeabgb.com)
SSD -Gigabyte 1TB NVME SSD -9k
Power Supply -Already using your Seasonic S12 520w
Monitor -Acer Nitro VG240YP 24" 1080P 144Hz LED IPS FreeSync -13.5k (flipkart.com)
Cabinet -Already using your Antec GX700
KB & Mouse -HP KM300F Gaming Combo -1.6k (amazon.in)
Used GPU -Any RX 570 8GB, RX 580 8GB or GTX 1060 6GB, GTX 1050 ti 4GB (Link: GRAPHICS CARD -GTX-1050Ti/GTX-1060/GTX 1070 /RX-570/RX-580.Best Price) 8k

Total -61.6K

All above components prices are taken from vedantcomputers unless otherwise specified.

PS: Vedantcomputers does not take payment gateway charges and provides free shipping all over India. I bought from them my present PC in Oct,2019 so can vouch for them.
I have used Asrock Motherboards both B450 & B550. Rock solid boards with good bioses.
I am using G.Skill SniperX 16GB (8GB x2) 3600Mhz Kit. Rock Solid but no RGB.

go with omega's suggestion and settle without GPU and HDD( since you don't need it). Get in line for 3060Ti on RPTech. Keep looking for good GPU deal, get 3060Ti or whatever better deal comes first.

TheSloth said:
go with omega's suggestion and settle without GPU and HDD( since you don't need it). Get in line for 3060Ti on RPTech. Keep looking for good GPU deal, get 3060Ti or whatever better deal comes first.

It will be a very long wait w/o gaming. Better to get a used GPU IMO. GTX 1060 is still good for 1080p high 60fps on most games.

omega44-xt said:
It will be a very long wait w/o gaming. Better to get a used GPU IMO. GTX 1060 is still good for 1080p high 60fps on most games.

Yes you are right about the wait. If OP is ready to spend on a 2nd hand card as a temporary GPU then it should be first priority instead of playing on Intel HD Graphics. But I will also mention that some people have been getting lucky with RPTech by getting the cards in just a month or two, way before other people who are in queue for longer. Better to submit the query and see if luck turns out good.

TheSloth said:
Yes you are right about the wait. If OP is ready to spend on a 2nd hand card as a temporary GPU then it should be first priority instead of playing on Intel HD Graphics. But I will also mention that some people have been getting lucky with RPTech by getting the cards in just a month or two, way before other people who are in queue for longer. Better to submit the query and see if luck turns out good.

What is this RPTech, please guide

bssunilreddy said:
Budget -65k (AMD Gaming Rig) GTX 1650 4GB DDDR6

Processor -AMD Ryzen 5 3500 -12.3k
Motherboard -Asrock B450M/ac -8.3k
RAM -G.Skill SniperX 16GB(8GBx2) 3600Mhz -8.1k (primeabgb.com)
SSD -Gigabyte 1TB NVME SSD -9k
Power Supply -Already using your Seasonic S12 520w
GPU -Zotac Gaming GTX 1650 4GB DDR6 -16.1k
Monitor -BenQ GW2480 24inch LED IPS -9.6k
Cabinet -Already using your Antec GX700
KB & Mouse -HP KM300F Gaming Combo -1.6k (amazon.in)

Total -65K

All above components prices are taken from vedantcomputers unless otherwise specified.

PS: Vedantcomputers does not take payment gateway charges and provides free shipping all over India. I bought from them my present PC in Oct,2019 so can vouch for them.

I am thinking of buying Ryzen 5 3500X, please suggest B550 board, also what is difference between C16,C18,C19 RAM

TheSloth said:
Yes you are right about the wait. If OP is ready to spend on a 2nd hand card as a temporary GPU then it should be first priority instead of playing on Intel HD Graphics. But I will also mention that some people have been getting lucky with RPTech by getting the cards in just a month or two, way before other people who are in queue for longer. Better to submit the query and see if luck turns out good.

It's out of stock at RPTech but will keep an eye on it, as an interim measure will buy a used card from Nehru Palace market, will visit soon

Instead of buying Graphic card, should I buy AMD RYZEN 5 PRO 4650G PROCESSOR for now and upgrade processor and GC 1-2 year later

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Garv1386 said:
Instead of buying Graphic card, should I buy AMD RYZEN 5 PRO 4650G PROCESSOR for now and upgrade processor and GC 1-2 year later

1 2 years later ddr4 platform would be end of life. So am4 will be also dead.

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Garv1386 said:
What is this RPTech, please guide

NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3060 Ti

Not exactly sure, but use Send Enquiry or email them to be notified about sales. There was a queue system but RPTech hosted 2 open sales recently.

chetansha said:
1 2 years later ddr4 platform would be end of life. So am4 will be also dead.

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Thanks for reply but that was not really helpful.

Please suggest below so that I can finalize my config
1) AMD RYZEN 5 PRO 4650G PROCESSOR or AMD RYZEN 5 3500X
2) B550 Motherboard
3) what is difference between C16,C18,C19 RAM

Garv1386 said:
1) AMD RYZEN 5 PRO 4650G PROCESSOR or AMD RYZEN 5 3500X

Don't get them now. Get 3300x with used rx 570 or gtx 1060 6 GB. Upgrade to 5600 or 5600x and rtx 4050(?, new) or rtx 2070 Super (used GPU) 2-3 years later

SaiyanGoku said:
Don't get them now. Get 3300x with used rx 570 or gtx 1060 6 GB. Upgrade to 5600 or 5600x and rtx 4050(?, new) or rtx 2070 Super (used GPU) 2-3 years later

RYZEN 3 3300X is Out of Stock on all website and also not in Cost to Cost price list. The price mentioned though is equal to RYZEN 5 3500X

Also suggest a good B550 mono to pair

Garv1386 said:
Please suggest below so that I can finalize my config
1) AMD RYZEN 5 PRO 4650G PROCESSOR or AMD RYZEN 5 3500X
2) B550 Motherboard
3) what is difference between C16,C18,C19 RAM

AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 4650G -17.2k (Link: AMD RYZEN 5 PRO 4650G)
Asrock B550 Phantom Gaming 4/ac Wifi (Link: ASROCK B550 PHANTOM GAMING 4/AC )
ADATA XPG SPECTRIX D60G 16GB (8GB x2) 3600Mhz (Link: ADATA XPG SPECTRIX D60G 8GB (8GBX1) DDR4 RGB 3600MHZ )

Check this once regarding faster ram for AMD APUs:AMD RYZEN 5 2400G MEMORY SPEED PERFORMANCE ANALYSIS

I will just add it here in case you like to keep your RGB setup in sync, ASRock polychrome software is really bad. I would not detect RGB components from other manufacturers, like the RAM mentioned above. you need to download a ADATA,s separate RGB program to control the RAM's LEDs. I have the same RAM and ASRock B450 motherboard. If you are happy with static lights or no lights, go with ASRock mobo. This suggestion is only for people who care about RGB.

Garv1386 said:
Please suggest below so that I can finalize my config
1) AMD RYZEN 5 PRO 4650G PROCESSOR or AMD RYZEN 5 3500X
2) B550 Motherboard
3) what is difference between C16,C18,C19 RAM

1. Honestly all of them are overpriced & not sure if you get warranty for R5 4650G. Maybe jump to R5 3600 for 17k if you are getting a dedicated GPU.
2. Gigabyte B550M DS3H is good enough, costs 9-9.5k
3. Lower CL means better performance & high freq is better, but nothing major as you will get bottlenecked elsewhere first. 3200MHz CL16 should be good enough or 3600MHz CL18 for a bit more, sometimes it's very close to former.

TheSloth said:
I will just add it here in case you like to keep your RGB setup in sync, ASRock polychrome software is really bad. I would not detect RGB components from other manufacturers, like the RAM mentioned above. you need to download a ADATA,s separate RGB program to control the RAM's LEDs. I have the same RAM and ASRock B450 motherboard. If you are happy with static lights or no lights, go with ASRock mobo. This suggestion is only for people who care about RGB.

For my friend's AsRock mobo, XPG RAMs are easily controlled via its software, but that software crashes a lot but profile does get applied.

omega44-xt said:
For my friend's AsRock mobo, XPG RAMs are easily controlled via its software, but that software crashes a lot but profile does get applied.

may be the high end mobos have better firmware for RGB?

Thinking of buying these parts in March. Please suggest

Garv1386 said:
Thinking of buying these parts in March. Please suggest

I won't recommend any 6C/6T processor.

Garv1386 said:
Thinking of buying these parts in March. Please suggest

Spending 16K on motherboard is a not needed IMO. Get MSI B550 A-Pro if you REALLY need a B550 motherboard above 10k OR get Gigabyte D3SH for just a bit lesser than 10K. Or switch to B450. Put that remaining money on GPU.

If you really want AMD, my concerns about R5 4650G still remain:

CPU - Ryzen 5 3600/4650G -17.2k (no iGPU vs iGPU)

Mobo - Gigabyte B550 DS3H - 9.2k (stupid to spend 15k+ on a mid-range build)

RAM - 2x8GB DDR4 3200MHz - 7k

GPU - GTX 1660 Super - 27k*

SSD - Kingston A400 240GB - 2.5k

HDD - WD/Seagate 1TB - 3.2k

PSU - Yours

Cabinet - Yours

Total - 66.1k

*GPU - Used RX570/GTX 1060 - 7-9k

Monitor - Acer Nitro VG240YP 24″ 1080p 144Hz IPS Freesync - 13.5k

omega44-xt said:
If you really want AMD, my concerns about R5 4650G still remain:

CPU - Ryzen 5 3600/4650G -17.2k (no iGPU vs iGPU)

Mobo - Gigabyte B550 DS3H - 9.2k (stupid to spend 15k+ on a mid-range build)

RAM - 2x8GB DDR4 3200MHz - 7k

GPU - GTX 1660 Super - 27k*

SSD - Kingston A400 240GB - 2.5k

HDD - WD/Seagate 1TB - 3.2k

PSU - Yours

Cabinet - Yours

Total - 66.1k

*GPU - Used RX570/GTX 1060 - 7-9k

Monitor - Acer Nitro VG240YP 24″ 1080p 144Hz IPS Freesync - 13.5k

Thanks bro, really appreciate

Guys I am taking SaiyanGoku suggestions and finalizing AMD RYZEN 3 3300X as processor. Found it available on theitdepot.com for 12375 Rs. Now just need to decide B550 motherboard which can support future upgrade and overclocking. Is Asrock Phantom Gaming 4 best board for this Job??

Garv1386 said:
overclocking

Don't focus on this too much. You'd need good cooler which might even eat into GPU budget.

MSI B550 GAMING PLUS is this a good board. Also my friend has an old Zotac GTX 660 with him is it of any use.

Garv1386 said:
Guys I am taking SaiyanGoku suggestions and finalizing AMD RYZEN 3 3300X as processor. Found it available on theitdepot.com for 12375 Rs. Now just need to decide B550 motherboard which can support future upgrade and overclocking. Is Asrock Phantom Gaming 4 best board for this Job??

Garv1386 said:
MSI B550 GAMING PLUS is this a good board. Also my friend has an old Zotac GTX 660 with him is it of any use.

I know people running R7 5800X on B450, so B550 is surely not required. Also, Ryzen 5000 is the last-gen with AM4 socket. Next-gen will have a new socket. Get R5 3600 (17k) + Gigabyte B550M DS3H (9k) for AMD for 26k instead of R3 3300X + B550 Gaming Plus (12.3k + 13.7k). As said earlier, don't both with OC much.

A GPU will help you buy a CPU w/o iGPU like R5 3600 or i5 10400F.

Again I'll say that i5 is a better performer if you want to save money, its a 6c/12t CPU & 10400F just costs 12.5k with some sellers:
Intel Core i5-10400F 10th Generation Processor (12M Cache, up to 4.30 GHz)

omega44-xt said:
I know people running R7 5800X on B450, so B550 is surely not required. Also, Ryzen 5000 is the last-gen with AM4 socket. Next-gen will have a new socket. Get R5 3600 (17k) + Gigabyte B550M DS3H (9k) for AMD for 26k instead of R3 3300X + B550 Gaming Plus (12.3k + 13.7k). As said earlier, don't both with OC much.

A GPU will help you buy a CPU w/o iGPU like R5 3600 or i5 10400F.

Again I'll say that i5 is a better performer if you want to save money, its a 6c/12t CPU & 10400F just costs 12.5k with some sellers:
Intel Core i5-10400F 10th Generation Processor (12M Cache, up to 4.30 GHz)

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Thanks bro i will consider Intel config you suggested while buying PC next month.

While checking online for B550 MoBo people are suggesting to avoid buying Gigabyte. So i have 3 ATX motherboard shortlisted. Please suggest.

1) Asrock B550 PRO 4
2) Asrock B550 Phantom Gaming 4
3) MSI B550-A PRO

I will try to buy RYZEN 5 3600 otherwise it will be RYZEN 3 3300X

Garv1386 said:
While checking online for B550 MoBo people are suggesting to avoid buying Gigabyte. So i have 3 ATX motherboard shortlisted. Please suggest.

1) Asrock B550 PRO 4
2) Asrock B550 Phantom Gaming 4
3) MSI B550-A PRO

I will try to buy RYZEN 5 3600 otherwise it will be RYZEN 3 3300X

Right now that Gigabyte B550M DS3H is like 8.7k, its pretty great for a cheap mobo & better than other cheap B550s from Galax. IMO get MSI B550 Pro VDH for under 11k if you want to avoid Gigabyte. You are unnecessarily overspending on mobo unless you are sure you will upgrade to Ryzen 9 5000 series CPU in future. R5 3600 + B550 DS3H fits your budget as I mentioned earlier with numbers.
Motherboard | PC Motherboards, AMD-Platform, Intel Platform

Its your money, I can't stop you from spending it unnecessarily on something you will not benefit from.

Garv1386 said:
While checking online for B550 MoBo people are suggesting to avoid buying Gigabyte. So i have 3 ATX motherboard shortlisted. Please suggest.

1) Asrock B550 PRO 4
2) Asrock B550 Phantom Gaming 4
3) MSI B550-A PRO

I will try to buy RYZEN 5 3600 otherwise it will be RYZEN 3 3300X

Get the following:
AMD Ryzen 5 3600 + Asrock B550 Phantom gaming 4/ac