buying console- PS3 or xbox 360 ?? :O

hey guys, i am planning to buy a console this diwali. i want to clear some doubts about both consoles.

i want to play games like uncharted 2, 3 killzone3 red dead redemption, infamous2, god of war 3, halo series, gears of war series, foroza motor sports 3/4.

xbox has no xclusiv game to please me except foroza 3 [idk if GT5 is comparable] but PS3 has god of war 3. and i am not a huge fan of halo or gears of war tough. so i am thinking about buying 160GB PS3 but i still need suggestions.

as i will only play console xclusiv titles, so i will buy only 4-6 games per year.
now clear some doubts :

1. which console to buy ?

[i dont care bluray, but ps3 has better exclusives for me. but xbox 360 is cheaper]

2. If i swap HDD to 500GB/1TB. will this void the warranty of PS3?

3. which one should i buy in case of ps3??? 160 GB or 320GB considering we can swap HDD with our own 2.5 inch HDDs . does it worth spending 3k more?

4. can i play on a LCD with DVI and VGA input? [no HDMI]

5. can i buy a 200 wala USB gamepad ? from enter, zebronics?? and use it as 2nd gamepad to play with frnds ??

6. can we copy the original game discs to internel HDD and run the games from the HDD instead of the disc? without modding/hacking the console ?

Get the PS3. Better than the Xbox 360 anyday

1.one more vote to Ps3
2. i don't think so
3.Go for 320G with move bundle @19K best vfm
4.u have to purchase a hdmi to dvi/vga cable available at ebay for 200 bucks

For exclusives, get PS3. That's what I'd do.

You want to play online? Get Xbox 360. PS3 is poor in this case.

I'd suggest to simply get the PS3 320GB + Move bundle for 20k.

^Move is dead if you ask me. However you might want it for future releases. KZ3 is supported by move though.

Swapping HDD is officially supported by Sony and they even have an online tutorial / guide for the same. However there is limitation to the capacity, I think 500GB. Pls read and confirm.

If I ain't obvious get a PS3 unless you are going to enjoy kinect which is honestly amazing.

I have never heard of copying the BD to the HDD and hence can't comment on the same. With a custom firmware maybe but not officially. Also unlike other hardware modifying PS3s are considered illegal and I'm sure you are aware of that.

@ sarath : i am not too excited about move. i have 19k budget. i will not buy latest games as they cost 2.5-3.5k. i will buy older exclusive games like god of war 3, Gran turismo 5, uncharted 2 etc. they cost 1.3k..

so should i spend 19k for PS3 320GB with move and wait 1 more month to buy above mentioned games

or

buy 160GB PS3 for 16.3k [letsbuy] and buy 2 of the above mentioned games ?

i will not think about modding for atleast 1 yr.

i dont really have a big HDTV, i am not interested in any of the move games as of now. [will buy killzone 3 aftr 1 yr]

and move starter pack is available for 3.5k. should i buy 160GB PS3 ?

can i mod my PS3 after 1 yr ? when my warranty ends?

First thing is you don't really need the biggest HDD.
Trust me, you wont be keeping anything so important that it would hurt to delete. Even a 160GB HDD will last you long. After that just delete the "old data".

For games, in my experience, I would say "buy used or second hand games". Only buy new games you intend to play online like NFS HP, COD MW3, UC3 etc.
You can get games from 500-1500 for various games.

I have bought games worth 21k already and have decided to only buy used one. Exceptions ofcourse for games like NFS the Run etc which is your personal preference.

A minimum 32" HDTV is a must or atleast strongly recomended. Otherwise it will only look like a small step up from the PS2.

It would be wise to advise the 320GB but its better to have 160GB and a few games than to have none.

Cheers

^^^ : can we copy the games to internal HDD ? to avoid scratches on discs due to continuous usage ?

i will play games like nfs the run on my PC. i will only play console exclusive titles on PS3

1. which console to buy ?

[i dont care bluray, but ps3 has better exclusives for me. but xbox 360 is cheaper]

Ps3

2. If i swap HDD to 500GB/1TB. will this void the warranty of PS3?

No it won't.

3. which one should i buy in case of ps3??? 160 GB or 320GB considering we can swap HDD with our own 2.5 inch HDDs . does it worth spending 3k more?

160 Gb should suffice your needs assuming you won't be using your ps3 to keep bd-movies and game from PSN.

4. can i play on a LCD with DVI and VGA input? [no HDMI]

Yep you can. It comes with VGA cable.

5. can i buy a 200 wala USB gamepad ? from enter, zebronics?? and use it as 2nd gamepad to play with frnds ??

No. Only certified sony gamepads work which cost about 1.5k each.

6. can we copy the original game discs to internel HDD and run the games from the HDD instead of the disc? without modding/hacking the console ?

No you can't, unless you want to go illegal and Jailbreak your PS3.

thx JojoTheDragon.

one more question. i am buying PS3 for sure. but my friend thinks that Blu ray discs will be screwed after 10-12 days of gaming. what is the reliability of these discs?

he will buy ps3 only, if he could copy og games to HDD, which as u said cannot be done widout modding. so how long the discs will last if handled properly and always kept in case?

as far as my experience can tell me, BRDs are the least prone to scratches amongst the whole optical media disc lot (unless ofcourse you really abuse them; though they still can endure some amount of manhandling)....give them their share of care, and they wont show any sign of misuse. lay your worries aside and go ahead....ask your friend to do the same too

^Well I haven't seen any of my BDs getting screwed as yet. I have a friend who abuses them too but they haven't given up.

Technically BDs are supposed to be better than DVDs. But practically too it seems to hold up. Have no worries. Anything else that your friend has stuck up his mind?

happy17292 said:
thx JojoTheDragon.

one more question. i am buying PS3 for sure. but my friend thinks that Blu ray discs will be screwed after 10-12 days of gaming. what is the reliability of these discs?

BD Discs are very durable and they last long even when left unused for days in its box at good condition. So just handle the discs with care and keep them in their covers and they should be fine.

happy17292 said:
he will buy ps3 only, if he could copy og games to HDD, which as u said cannot be done widout modding. so how long the discs will last if handled properly and always kept in case?

Ps3 doesn't need to be modded for Jailbreaking. But get a cheap dongle and lalalala your way. I can't help you in this regard because you can't copy game discs to hdd completely without jailbreaking which is illegal as par sony.
Be original and buy original games.

thx guys i am going for PS3 later this month

i will try to convince my friend to buy one too

Just check online forums and buy used games for cheap.

I agree with Sarath, the cheapest way to get hard copies of Ps3 games is to buy used ones. Or trade games with a friend.

1.If you do not care about the blu-ray thing, then xbox is a better choise. Its little cheaper too.
2.Go for xbox, it has no problems with external hard discs.
3.If you go for a PS3, then buy the 320GB version, as you might have problems regarding expantion in hard disc space.
4.You have to buy a converter cable in that case.
5.Do not go for some cheapo game pads, but still they work. NOTE: They would not give the experience of an original or some good quality gamepad. Also, the xbox controller is a better controller than the PS3 controller.
6.I'm not sure, but i think it can be done in an xbox 360.

^Despite owning a PS3 I can say that both the xbox and ps are almost the same. Its just the exclusives like GoW and Heavy Rain that tipped me towards the PS3

thx guys,

just checked letsbuy.com , PS3 160GB @ Rs.15,149 :shock:

After discount? Hope you get lucky in the draw

A few questions on PS3 as a dedicated media player.
1. Is the PS3 Region locked for Bluray discs?
2. Can I play DVD's/ VCD ( critical ) ?
3. Can it play the popular media files ?
4. is it worth to buy a PS3 or to buy a new ( DVD Player + WD TV Live )

Thanks

Blu-ray disks and games are NOT region locked. PS3 will play normal DVD movies fine.
It won't play every media format your throw at it. That's something only WD TV Live is capable of. With Sony for videos, you generally have to stick with MP4.

Here's the list of media formats supported: PlayStation 3 system software - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

1. Is the PS3 Region locked for Bluray discs?
Yes. Movies are region locked but games are not. Again DLCs are region locked.

When buying DLCs you have to buy it from the regional PS Store. That is why most people with UK accounts could DL DLCs, since games shipped to India carry the same or are the same games that are supplied to UK /Europe [This is before Indian PS Store opened]. The Japanese games are the most painful to source their DLCs. {In short country where you bought the game has to be the country (store) where you buy the DLC}
Again I have vaguely read that only Blu-Rays are region locked and not the DVDs. This you will have to confirm yourself with the aid of the interweb (I am not sure about this)
Going by the same, I feel the PS3s sold in India are region locked to EU but that is just my assumption

2. 2. Can I play DVD's/ VCD?
Yes, if you mean normal video disks. For self made disks check the supported formats

3. Can it play the popular media files ?
These are the formats supported

Memory Stick Video Format
- MPEG-4 SP (AAC LC)
- H.264/MPEG-4 AVC High Profile （AAC LC）
- MPEG-2 TS（H.264/MPEG-4 AVC, AAC LC）
MP4 file format
- H.264/MPEG-4 AVC High Profile (AAC LC)
MPEG-1 (MPEG Audio Layer 2)
MPEG-2 PS (MPEG2 Audio Layer 2, AAC LC, AC3(Dolby Digital), LPCM)
MPEG-2 TS（MPEG2 Audio Layer 2, AC3（Dolby Digital）, AAC LC）
MPEG-2 TS（H.264/MPEG-4 AVC, AAC LC）
AVI
- Motion JPEG (Linear PCM)
- Motion JPEG (μ-Law)
AVCHD （.m2ts / .mts）
DivX
WMV
- VC-1（WMA Standard V2）

PS3™ | Types of files that can be played

4. is it worth to buy a PS3 or to buy a new ( DVD Player + WD TV Live )
That depends if the formats you use fall out of that list. As simple as that. For eg: mkv is not supported.

Sarath said:
After discount? Hope you get lucky in the draw

widout using any discount coupon

Buy Sony PS3 160GB (Black) at Best Price in India - Also find Specifications, Photos, Features & Reviews

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what's the advantages of getting a Jailbreak PS3 ?

If you're concerned about money, you may want to try this. My cousin buys used games from ebay, and when he is done with it, he sells it back online for a few bucks less. You may want to try that. Saves a lot of money.

Edit: Noticed the original post date, The OP's probably not seeing this.

gump said:
what's the advantages of getting a Jailbreak PS3 ?

You cannot get a JB'ed PS3. You got to do it yourself....!

thx sygeek and asingh

my friend already bought PS3 last week. but i am still thinking :O

is there any chance of new jb/cfw/modchip getting released in next 6 months for PS3?? i sold my PC so my only gaming rig will be a PS3 or xbox 360 whatever i buy.

Why do you need a jailbreak? I dont think anything is going to be out soon. But in 2012 maybe the Next Gen consoles itself might be released?

i am thinking about buying xbox 360 this time as PS3 160GB slims are already out of stock [all 3 of them on letsbuy]

i am waiting for last 10 days but they are not being restocked. i will buy PS3 later next yr [if it gets jb by that time]

can any1 tell me about reliability of X360s ?? is there any possibility of getting RROD or similar problem ?? in 1st year ?

thetechfreak said:
Why do you need a jailbreak? I dont think anything is going to be out soon. But in 2012 maybe the Next Gen consoles itself might be released?

I think the xbox successor will be first again. Sony has hardly profited from the PS3.

As of now both Xbox ans PS are almost the same. Xbox more for online services and PS3 for the exclusives. See where your priorities are.

i dont want online gameplay and there is no PS3 xclusive for me xcept god of war 3.

can any1 tell me about reliability of new consoles ?? like failure rate of new x360 slims in 1st year?? can i just buy a new console and mod it within few days or wait for 1yr while its covered with warranty?

i asked that console modding guy

he'll charge me 2k to mod X360. he's suggesting me to buy X360 slim 4GB modded for 16.5k from him.
he's charging Rs5k for modding PS3 with 15 games installed on HDD..

what should i do?? is it worth paying 2k everytime a new X360 hack releases?? or get PS3 and jailbreak it?

he confirmed RDR and God of war 3 will work on jailbroken 3.55

That is too much for a software hack. Also all new games require the latest updates, creating problems for many.

I have heard that there more titles for 360 than PS3...is it so?????? :?:

so what should i do?? buy xbox 360 modded 4GB for 16.5k from him [he says there will be no warranty but i can test that modded console before buying]

or should i buy ps3 320gb move for 16.8k ?? [but he'll charge 5k to mod it with 15 games

i bought PS3 160GB slim with free FUEL game from letsbuy.com @ Rs15,149 by using 1000/- off discount coupon. ordered last friday. it'll take 8-10 working days to deliver O_O

now i have some more doubts,

i will use HDMI to DVI to connect PS3 to my LCD which has only DVI and VGA ports. but how can i connect my speakers?? both LCD and my external speakers use 3.5mm jack for audio. what should i do?

can i use analog audio (Red and White RCA jacks) to 3.5mm converter? with HDMI output for video and analog for sound? will it work together without any issues??

happy17292 said:
i bought PS3 160GB slim with free FUEL game from letsbuy.com @ Rs15,149 by using 1000/- off discount coupon. ordered last friday. it'll take 8-10 working days to deliver O_O

now i have some more doubts,

i will use HDMI to DVI to connect PS3 to my LCD which has only DVI and VGA ports. but how can i connect my speakers?? both LCD and my external speakers use 3.5mm jack for audio. what should i do?

can i use analog audio (Red and White RCA jacks) to 3.5mm converter? with HDMI output for video and analog for sound? will it work together without any issues??

you can use the bundled analog cabled for audio. I have read the same in this forum, but not sure about the correct thread.

will it work at same time even when i use HDMI for video??

i mean my old DVD player had a VGA output. but if i connect a monitor on VGA, it turns off the composite output [red, white and yellow cables of CRT TV]

If you use HDMI then even the audio will get transmitted. You will not have to worry about anything else :wink:

^^^^ i know, but i dont have HDMI port in my LCD, it has only DVI, VGA and 3.5mm jack.

i will use HDMI to DVi cable for video and i am confused how can i connect my 3.5mm speakers to it.

Give these links a read=
Problem connecting PC Speakers to PS3 Confused - AVS Forum
connect speakers to the PS3? | PlayStationÂ® Community Forums
How to connect speakers to the PS3 - Official PlayStationÂ® Community -PlayStation.com

^^^ thanks

i will buy one of those RCA to 3.5mm converters

but what about video?? can i just buy a simple HDMI to VGA cable available for Rs350/- at local shops?? or i need a HDMI to VGA converter box ?? costs Rs2k-6k ??

The cable should do just fine :wink:

Best of luck

happy17292 said:
^^^ thanks i will buy one of those RCA to 3.5mm converters

but what about video?? can i just buy a simple HDMI to VGA cable available for Rs350/- at local shops?? or i need a HDMI to VGA converter box ?? costs Rs2k-6k ??

Don't need to spend 2-6K on a converter box, save money & buy the cable. :thumbs:

VGA is analog and history.

^^ my LCD supports DVI too. should i go for HDMI to VGA or HDMI to DVI ?? HDMI to DVI is not available at local shops.

If you feel hdmi to vga lacks in quality then you can go for other. Else this will suffice :wink:

^^ thanks

i will buy HDMI to VGA cable and a RCA to 3.5mm converter

got it delivered yesterday, after 8 days of payment. they'll send free fuel game in few days

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