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Chinese surfers see red over Microsoft black-outs

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iinfi
iinfi Original post #1
Oct 22, 2008 at 11:46 PM
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WARNING: READING THIS MITE CAUSE STOMACH ACHES DUE TO EXCESSIVE LAUGHING
BEIJING (Reuters) - Chinese Internet users have expressed fury at Microsoft's launch of an anti-piracy tool targeting Chinese computer users to ensure they buy genuine software.

The "Windows Genuine Advantage" program, which turns the user's screen black if the installed software fails a validation test, is Microsoft's latest weapon in its war on piracy in China, where the vast majority of 200 million computer users are believed to be using counterfeit software, unwittingly or not.

"Why is Microsoft automatically connected with my computer? The computer is mine!" one angry blogger wrote on popular Chinese web portal Sina.com. "Microsoft has no right to control my hardware without my agreement."

Another blogger railed over the cost of authorized versions.

"If the price of genuine software was lower than the fake one, who would buy the fake one?" he wrote.

A visitor to a Beijing internet cafe said Microsoft was violating people's rights.

"If, when I'm programing, the computer screen goes black, that will probably cause some important information to be lost," he said. "Who will pay me for my loss then?"

Dong Zhengwei, 35, a Beijing lawyer, described Microsoft as the "biggest hacker in China with its intrusion into users' computer systems without their agreement or any judicial authority," the China Daily said.

"Microsoft's measure will cause serious functional damage to users' computers and, according to China's criminal law, the company can stand accused of breaching and hacking into computer systems," he was quoted as saying.

"I respect the right of Microsoft to protect its intellectual property, but it is taking on the wrong target with wrong measures. They should target producers and sellers of fake software, not users."

The software giant defended the program on its website as part of its "commitment to help protect its intellectual property and to help you avoid problems before they happen."

"The purpose ... is to help our customers to determine (if) genuine software is installed on their computers," Microsoft told Reuters.
dheeraj_kumar
Oct 23, 2008 at 6:10 AM
...OMG... :D This is epic!!!

Its da new Black Screen Of Death :D :D :D
NucleusKore
Oct 23, 2008 at 7:24 AM
They deserve it, the thieves
Faun
Faun #6
Oct 23, 2008 at 8:37 AM
lets have a troubleshooting session :p lolz
A
amizdu #7
Oct 23, 2008 at 3:30 PM
"If the price of genuine software was lower than the fake one, who would buy the fake one?"

One of the stupidest thing I've ever heard!
:D
S
Oct 25, 2008 at 7:40 AM
microsoft sux chinese rock
rosemolr
rosemolr #10
Oct 25, 2008 at 7:57 AM
piracy Sindabad
skippednote
Oct 25, 2008 at 9:49 AM
Use linux kill microsoft.:)
iMav
iMav #12
Oct 25, 2008 at 3:34 PM
I thought the Chinesse were intelligent :lol: Seems not. :D
J
Oct 25, 2008 at 10:28 PM
well chinese , you made copies of all the hardware in the world.....software isnt that easy isnt it ?
C
Cool Joe #16
Oct 25, 2008 at 11:29 PM
They deserve it, the thieves

Since you're "TheSaint", I guess it's normal coming from you. :-D
Who told you to use Suse when Windows XP was easily available??
gary4gar
gary4gar #17
Oct 26, 2008 at 3:42 AM
Don't laugh much, back home a similar response was seen few years when MS raided various computer shops
The shopkeepers had shut shops to protest. they said they have every right to sell Fake copies of windows, else it would ruin there life.they would be unemployed. Right said as if computer costly 25k today will cost over 35k will its loaded with all the original software. in that case, people will not buy PCS

then Govt stepped in, now the matter is in files. i think it would never come back again.
NucleusKore
Oct 26, 2008 at 1:19 PM
They raided again, six months back here in Mangalore. Posing as students, they went to assemblers to load/buy pirated windows. They then booked them on the spot.
MetalheadGautham
Oct 26, 2008 at 1:44 PM
rofl... as my hindi teacher used to say, nakal karne ke liye bhi akal chahiye
NucleusKore
Oct 26, 2008 at 1:47 PM
Since you're "TheSaint", I guess it's normal coming from you. :-D
Who told you to use Suse when Windows XP was easily available??

I never mentioned anything about linux in this thread, surprising you should bother to raise it, I do not see the connection. When I say they deserve it I mean it. Stealing, is Stealing, is Stealing. I may be an open source advocate but I do have a licensed copy of Windows XP Home for the rest of my family. I do not have Microsoft Office as I cannot afford it. I don't steal it because it's the easy thing to do.

As for the custom title, it refers to Simon Templar (The Saint). More of that here ;)
*www.imdb.com/title/tt0120053/
*en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Saint
C
Cool Joe #21
Oct 26, 2008 at 2:06 PM
They raided again, six months back here in Mangalore. Posing as students, they went to assemblers to load/buy pirated windows. They then booked them on the spot.

OMG!!! Mangalore!!!
I just hope they don't come poking their noses into people's houses....
Ashis
Ashis #22
Oct 27, 2008 at 2:31 AM
.......& I thought I was the only stupid.
But it seams I have some serious competitors!
iinfi
iinfi #23
Oct 27, 2008 at 5:39 AM
They raided again, six months back here in Mangalore. Posing as students, they went to assemblers to load/buy pirated windows. They then booked them on the spot.

EEEEEKKKSSS !!! r u serious??


Ashis said:
.......& I thought I was the only stupid.
But it seams I have some serious competitors!

all the best ... better luck next time.
NucleusKore
Oct 27, 2008 at 8:02 AM
EEEEEKKKSSS !!! r u serious??.

Yes, they did the same in Gujarat some time back

*www.itvarnews.net/news/journal_com...1&sTitle=SITA takes up arms against Microsoft

*www.businessweek.com/innovate/content/jul2007/id20070725_504325.htm
chesss
chesss #25
Oct 27, 2008 at 10:45 AM
I do not have Microsoft Office as I cannot afford it.
just curious .. what did you do when someone send you a xls/doc file before writely (google docs)?
S
sakumar79 #26
Oct 27, 2008 at 11:37 AM
Open Office.org has been around for quite a while now... Earlier, there were only fewer alternatives like Lotus Smartsuite and Corel Office which were mostly paid software but cheaper... But for a few years we have OpenOffice which has most of the MS Office features...

Arun
MetalheadGautham
Oct 27, 2008 at 11:43 AM
I personally find OpenOffice.org more comfortable to work with than MS Office, but for those who don't need a FULL FLEDGED office suite, I think Lotus Symphony rocks. Its interface easily pwns msoffice and even openoffice. I love the tabbed interface and the sidebar.
C
Oct 27, 2008 at 12:30 PM
I hate piracy. Why the hell do they pirate when they can use legally free and better quality software. I hope MS raids more shops and institutes in India and confiscates every single computer loaded with pirated software there.
MetalheadGautham
Oct 27, 2008 at 12:52 PM
I hate piracy. Why the hell do they pirate when they can use legally free and better quality software. I hope MS raids more shops and institutes in India and confiscates every single computer loaded with pirated software there.
They can't, because they don't own the computers. The max they can do is sue pirates.
The "raids" are mainly about FINDING places where piracy exists and/or originates and legally eliminating them.
J
Oct 27, 2008 at 1:01 PM
Even if microsoft finds Pirated Copy of windows installed on your machine. the best they can do is erase it with some specialized software so that you cannot recover it.

You cannot go to jail for "just using pirated software". They will need to find intent to distribute even to file a case.
MetalheadGautham
Oct 27, 2008 at 1:04 PM
Even if microsoft finds Pirated Copy of windows installed on your machine. the best they can do is erase it with some specialized software so that you cannot recover it.

You cannot go to jail for "just using pirated software". They will need to find intent to distribute even to file a case.
And they can't damage any other stuff in the harddisc while erazing windows from it.

Thus, the BEST possible solution MS has is to harass pirates of windows with goofy updates which screw the system. And I whole heartedly support this technique.
A
ambika #32
Oct 27, 2008 at 11:53 PM
I hate piracy. Why the hell do they pirate when they can use legally free and better quality software. I hope MS raids more shops and institutes in India and confiscates every single computer loaded with pirated software there.
__________________

Piracy can't be stop by raids or something like that in few shops and institions of india.It stops totally by customers morality that not to use these pirated versions of software .This is the must conditions .:D
casanova
casanova #33
Oct 28, 2008 at 12:24 AM
What a funny read.
chesss
chesss #34
Oct 28, 2008 at 3:44 AM
I hate piracy. Why the hell do they pirate when they can use legally free and better quality software. I hope MS raids more shops and institutes in India and confiscates every single computer loaded with pirated software there.
I agree. I also hope they enlist the help of Raj thackeray in this 'cleansing' mission .
K
krinish #35
Oct 28, 2008 at 8:29 AM
What Idiotic mor0ns!!! It would take some time coming out of that centuries old hibernation.
They dont know or want to learn of what they have lost out on learning the new wold order. They still think its the Ming dynasity.
Chinese are arrogant and clueless and brainwashed.....

but thanks for that peice of laughter. Got off to a great early morning start.
comp@ddict
Oct 28, 2008 at 2:34 PM
What Idiotic mor0ns!!! It would take some time coming out of that centuries old hibernation.
They dont know or want to learn of what they have lost out on learning the new wold order. They still think its the Ming dynasity.
Chinese are arrogant and clueless and brainwashed..... :D:D

but thanks for that peice of laughter. Got off to a great early morning start.

:D
iinfi
iinfi #39
Nov 4, 2008 at 1:13 PM
Thus, the BEST possible solution MS has is to harass pirates of windows with goofy updates which screw the system. And I whole heartedly support this technique.

goffy updates?? that happens to people with genuine windows!! pirated versions work fine as they v updates off!!
IronManForever
Nov 4, 2008 at 2:27 PM
"Why is Microsoft automatically connected with my computer? The computer is mine!" one angry blogger wrote on popular Chinese web portal Sina.com. "Microsoft has no right to control my hardware without my agreement."
Thi user knows nothing about PCs.
"If the price of genuine software was lower than the fake one, who would buy the fake one?" he wrote.
This one, even less. :p
"If, when I'm programing, the computer screen goes black, that will probably cause some important information to be lost," he said. "Who will pay me for my loss then?"
programing shoud have been pro-gaming in the sentence. :lol: Obviously he does not understand the essentials.
"I respect the right of Microsoft to protect its intellectual property, but it is taking on the wrong target with wrong measures. They should target producers and sellers of fake software, not users."
I somewhat agree. THis is a viewpoint seldom taken. :neutral:

NucleusKore said:
They deserve it, the thieves
Who? chinese or MS? :lol:

stormgrab said:
microsoft sux chinese rock
:confused:

iMav said:
I thought the Chinesse were intelligent
I wouldnt assume anything based on a mere Media report. :neutral:

MucleusKore said:
They raided again, six months back here in Mangalore. Posing as students, they went to assemblers to load/buy pirated windows. They then booked them on the spot.
This is so c0ol. :D

MetalheadGautham said:
I personally find OpenOffice.org more comfortable to work with than MS Office, but for those who don't need a FULL FLEDGED office suite, I think Lotus Symphony rocks. Its interface easily pwns msoffice and even openoffice. I love the tabbed interface and the sidebar.
Have you used MS Office 2007? I think you have not used anything later than MS Office XP. Office 2003 revamped the stuff a bit. Office 2007 was a complete overhaul. Seen it, believed it. :) Arguably the best interface any Office suite for Windows has till date => MS Office 2007. Digit, Chip, Pcworld. All have said that.

chandru.in said:
I hate piracy. Why the hell do they pirate when they can use legally free and better quality software. I hope MS raids more shops and institutes in India and confiscates every single computer loaded with pirated software there.
C'mon dude. This microsoft-sucks-linux-rox stuff does NOT appeal everyone. Just a viewpoint. :)
C
Nov 4, 2008 at 2:46 PM
C'mon dude. This microsoft-sucks-linux-rox stuff does NOT appeal everyone. Just a viewpoint. :)
When did I ever mention Linux? Don't put words in my mouth. :shock:

FYI there are several legally free alternatives to proprietary non-free software not just Linux.
IronManForever
Nov 4, 2008 at 11:16 PM
^^ Still for the average Joe all that stuff is Linux.. :p Yeah yeah; OpenSolaris, FreeBSD to name some.. and thats all I know. And none of the two are actually as good as Windows or Ubuntu/openSUSE or Mac OS for casual-user-home-use. :neutral:
NucleusKore
Nov 5, 2008 at 7:39 AM
Linux should not have come into this thread. Pirating anything is illegal and the Chinese deserve what they get. Period.
ravi_9793
ravi_9793 #44
Nov 5, 2008 at 9:55 AM
Even if microsoft finds Pirated Copy of windows installed on your machine. the best they can do is erase it with some specialized software so that you cannot recover it.
This can produce some business loss.
gary4gar
gary4gar #45
Nov 5, 2008 at 10:05 AM
With more & more people moving towards Laptop, ditching laptops.
Piracy would decrease as Almost all laptop manufactures bundle an OEM license of OS.
So,

Bye-bye Piracy, Welcome DRM :x