CPU+Mobo+RAM · DIGIT-ARC

1. What is the purpose of the computer? What all applications and games are you going to run? (Stupid answers like 'gaming' or 'office work' will not work. Be exact. Which games? Which applications? Avoid the word 'et cetera.')
Ans: Every day use. Office work, 2.5D Gaming, Mobile RPG Gaming,Watching 10bit Full HD Videos, listening music while p2p downloading and browsing etc.

2. What is your overall budget? If you can extend a bit for a more balanced configuration, then mention this too.
Ans: As less as possible. May be 7K ?

3. Planning to overclock?
Ans: NO

4. Which Operating System are you planning to use?
Ans: Windows 10 or Windows 7

5. How much hard drive space is needed?
Ans: Have 2x 1TB 7200RPM HDDs

6. Do you want to buy a monitor? If yes, please mention which screen size and resolution do you want. If you already have a monitor and want to reuse it, again mention the size and resolution of monitor you have.
Ans:Have Dell 1080P Monitor with

7. Which components you DON'T want to buy or which components you already have and plan on reusing?
Ans: Have 4GB DDR3 1333 RAM(not sure to use it or not), AMD HD7750 1GB, CM Case, Antec 550Watt PSU, Creatice Speakers, Logitech KB+Mouse, Dell Monitor.

8. When are you planning to buy the system?
Ans: Withing one or two months.

9. Have you ever built a desktop before or will this be done by an assembler?
Ans:More than 10 times.

10. Where do you live? Are you buying locally? Are you open to buying stuff from online shops if you don't get locally?
Ans: Kolkata

11. Anything else which you would like to say?
Ans: Wish me Luck.

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7k for cpu+mobo+ram when cheapest ddr4 ram itself cost ~2.5k,either increase budget or look for second hand 3rd/4th gen intel core i processors/mobos in your city on olx(your current ddr3 ram will work with that).

Get an used second/third gen i3/i5 cpu within 4k and pair it with a h61 motherboard from gigabyte/asus etc-it will just about fit into your budget while allowing you to retain some of your existing peripherals(such as ram).

For smooth playback of 10bit 1080p hevc content,you will need a dedicated gpu like a gt 1030 that can decode hevc content on the fly-otherwise you may face random stutters while watching such videos.However such a gpu alone would cost 6k or more.

whitestar_999 said:
7k for cpu+mobo+ram when cheapest ddr4 ram itself cost ~2.5k,either increase budget or look for second hand 3rd/4th gen intel core i processors/mobos in your city on olx(your current ddr3 ram will work with that).

Nope.
7K for CPU+MOBO if the RAM can be used. Or may be 10K for CPU+MOBO+RAM ?
Which is better ?

quicky008 said:
Get an used second/third gen i3/i5 cpu within 4k and pair it with a h61 motherboard from gigabyte/asus etc-it will just about fit into your budget while allowing you to retain some of your existing peripherals(such as ram).

For smooth playback of 10bit 1080p hevc content,you will need a dedicated gpu like a gt 1030 that can decode hevc content on the fly-otherwise you may face random stutters while watching such videos.However such a gpu alone would cost 6k or more.

Thank you!

GT1030 way powerful than old HD7750 ?
Or CPU+MOBO+DDR4 RAM+7750 @10K will suffice ?
Then again APU+MOBO+RAM @10K and no need old ram and gpu ?
Or 2nd hand cpu+h61 mobo cos new cpu+h61 mobo will be over 7k and no brainer ?

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Minimum I can suggest is this:
Athlon 200GE--4850(mdcomputers,has inbuilt graphics)
Asus prime A320M-K--4325(mdcomputers)
1*4gb kingston hyperx 2400mhz ram--2500(primeabgb) get one same stick later after few months when ram price go down further but for now 4gb should be alright.

If even above is not possible then only option is getting 2nd hand components from olx in your city.

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Revolution said:
GT1030 way powerful than old HD7750 ?

UserBenchmark: AMD HD 7750 vs Nvidia GT 1030
Though 1050Ti is minimum recommended for 1080p gaming at decent fps/settings.

Thank you!
Very tough choice in tight budget.
Even 200GE better little than HD7750.

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No,7750 is better than Athlon 200GE vega 3 igpu.
UserBenchmark: AMD HD 7750 vs RX Vega 3 (Ryzen iGPU)

I wonder why do you want to upgrade at the first place. Looking at existing 4GB DDR3 1333 RAM and AMD HD7750, your given requirements should already be sufficed by your current system.
Is there any fault going on in your existing system or do you currently have a weak CPU?

Vineet Sharma said:
I wonder why do you want to upgrade at the first place. Looking at existing 4GB DDR3 1333 RAM and AMD HD7750, your given requirements should already be sufficed by your current system.
Is there any fault going on in your existing system or do you currently have a weak CPU?

I don't know which is faulty but any of the componen(cpu cpu or mobo) is faulty. Must be mobo. PC restart after few seconds and it happening for infinite times. So I need at least cpu+mobo+ram. I never went any pc technician and have no idea regarding pc repairing so I planning to bu new combo.

Revolution said:
I don't know which is faulty but any of the componen(cpu cpu or mobo) is faulty. Must be mobo. PC restart after few seconds and it happening for infinite times. So I need at least cpu+mobo+ram. I never went any pc technician and have no idea regarding pc repairing so I planning to bu new combo.

It can also be your PSU as well. In that case, buying new mobo won't help. You should get your motherboard and PSU checked first (seperately).

Vineet Sharma said:
It can also be your PSU as well. In that case, buying new mobo won't help. You should get your motherboard and PSU checked first (seperately).

Checked with different PSU earlier so its must be Mobo then.

So which of the following will be more powerful ?

AMD RYZEN 3 2200G + ASROCKA320M HDV Motherboard + CORSAIR CMK8GX4M1D3000C16

Or

AMD ATHLON 200GE APU + ASROCKA320M HDV Motherboard + CORSAIR CMK8GX4M1D3000C16 + AMD HD7750 GPU

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Graphics wise 2200G can be a bit better provided you use two same ram sticks of at least 2400mhz. Processor wise 2200G is much better. Save some more & get 2200G configuration with a bit better mobo.Buying a dual core processor nowadays is not recommended unless you absolutely can't spend more & can't save more either.

whitestar_999 said:
Graphics wise 2200G can be a bit better provided you use two same ram sticks of at least 2400mhz. Processor wise 2200G is much better. Save some more & get 2200G configuration with a bit better mobo.Buying a dual core processor nowadays is not recommended unless you absolutely can't spend more & can't save more either.

Or
AMD RYZEN 3 1200 + ASROCK A320M HDV + 2x 4Gb DDR4 2400/3000MHz Ram + HD7750 1GB ?

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If you already have 7750 then it is fine but just note that integrated graphics of 2200g is a bit better than 7750. Also A320 mobo does not support overclocking.

whitestar_999 said:
Graphics wise 2200G can be a bit better provided you use two same ram sticks of at least 2400mhz. Processor wise 2200G is much better. Save some more & get 2200G configuration with a bit better mobo.Buying a dual core processor nowadays is not recommended unless you absolutely can't spend more & can't save more either.

Or
AMD RYZEN 3 1200 + ASROCK A320M HDV + 2x 4Gb DDR4 2400/3000MHz Ram + HD7750 1GB

whitestar_999 said:
If you already have 7750 then it is fine but just note that integrated graphics of 2200g is a bit better than 7750. Also A320 mobo does not support overclocking.

2.5K more for how much extra fps in games ?
No need of OC at all.
Thank you!

Why so much price difference bewbetw 1200 and 1300X ?
1.5K Extra only for .4GHz more clock speed worth ?

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Earlier 1300x used to be available for just 600-700 more than 1200. 1300x has better stock speeds plus it has more overclocking potential(the main difference between x & non-x ryzen,unless you are very unlucky the x processor will overclock more than non-x but again difference depends on your luck).

You can check 2200G reviews but both 2200g & 7750 won't be able to play recent games at 1080p.

whitestar_999 said:
Earlier 1300x used to be available for just 600-700 more than 1200. 1300x has better stock speeds plus it has more overclocking potential(the main difference between x & non-x ryzen,unless you are very unlucky the x processor will overclock more than non-x but again difference depends on your luck).

You can check 2200G reviews but both 2200g & 7750 won't be able to play recent games at 1080p.

Thank you!
Now I have few more queries.
Can we set up AMD R3 1200 with out any GPU at first time ?
I mean without any GPU there will be no display at all or only we will get old school display ?
At low budget Asrock 320M mobo do the job or is there other better option at that price ?
Asrock not popular compare to Asus or Gigabyte ?
I'm thinking about reliability for extra features.
Do I have to update BIOS for Mobo doesn't mater if I use R3 1200 CPU or R3 2200G APU ?
Will I get fast RAM(3200MHz) but 2x4Gb under 5K ?
Please put the link if possible.
I want to buy in installment so where should I buy.
I'm from Kolkata.

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You cannot setup r3 1200(or any ryzen non-G processor) without a gpu as there will be no display at all.

A320 mobos are not really recommended for ryzen unless you really never plan on overclocking.Also A320 mobos usually can't run ram over 2400/2667mhz which significantly reduces the performance of integrated graphics on ryzen G.

Asrock is indeed not as popular as asus or gigabyte but then asrock is also not as big,it also has more popularity abroad compared to India.

If your mobo manufacturing date is around june 2018 or later then most probably it comes with bios update for ryzen G but still you need to confirm it by matching mobo manufacturing date on box with bios release version dates on mobo product page.

In India only 2400mhz 4gb ram sticks are available & even if you can buy fast ram it won't be of any use with A320 mobo(see above point).

In Kolkata only options are mdcomputers or vedantcomputers,but you can also buy from primeabgb(mumbai) or theitdepot(chennai) without any issues.All of them have some form of EMI payment option.

You first need to define your budget & your needs,if planning on using for long term then don't buy cheaper now to regret later.

To Run APU/CPU on 3200/3000MHz RAM how much Extra money I have to put ? Still there will be NO OC. Only extra price over 2400MHz RAM and A320 mobo. For thr CPU its constant.

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Cheapest 3000mhz 8gb ram stick cost ~4500 so two of these will cost ~9000.Also you need two sticks only to improve integrated graphics performance which will still not match a nvidia 1030 available for ~6300(even cheaper if buy used from olx in your city). You will also need a decent B450 mobo which costs ~6800(MSI B450M Pro VDH).

whitestar_999 said:
Cheapest 3000mhz 8gb ram stick cost ~4500 so two of these will cost ~9000.Also you need two sticks only to improve integrated graphics performance which will still not match a nvidia 1050 available for ~6300(even cheaper if buy used from olx in your city). You will also need a decent B450 mobo which costs ~6800(MSI B450M Pro VDH).

I got your point.
But question is the availability of ne Nvidia 1050 in market. I can only see 1030 every where. Thank you!

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Revolution said:
I got your point.
But question is the availability of ne Nvidia 1050 in market. I can only see 1030 every where. Thank you!

Typing mistake,it was 1030 not 1050.Even a 1030 will be a bit faster than using two 3000mhz ram sticks with 2200G.