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avichandana20000
avichandana20000 Original post #1
Jul 5, 2020 at 11:11 PM
Need to upgrade CPU and mobo for my cousin.

i thought of this :-

Gigabyte B450 Gaming X + Ryzen 5 3400G

Purpose : Statistical software+python+anaconda distribution+R programming +Force 2+Minitab+ light gaming @1080p.

Budget 20k

He already has 2400 Mhz C vengeance DDR 4 RAM, Benq 20" Monitor, Antech VP450 w. Previously running Pentium G4560 and Giga B250M D3h

Like to know what is the max resolution supported by 3400G from HDMI and Display Port in case he wants to buy a 144 Hz Monitor?
SaiyanGoku
Jul 5, 2020 at 11:29 PM
*geek.digit.in/community/threads/asking-for-new-pc-help-answer-these-questions-first.149943/
omega44-xt
Jul 5, 2020 at 11:29 PM
Ryzen 3rd gen needs new BIOS for B450 mobos, so ask vendor about that. AsRock B450 Pro4 & Asus TUF B450 are considered good B450 mobos.

Performance difference between 2400G & 3400G is like 10%, so better to get R5 2400G if you can find it for 10k. Its iGPU should work fine till 4K 60fps, so 1080p 144Hz should work, but for gaming, it's a bad CPU. Even cheaper R3 3100 outperforms R5 3400G if both are paired with same dedicated GPU.

DDR4 2400MHz is a slow RAM considering Ryzen performance scales well with RAM freq, but beyond 3600MHz or 3200MHz, its point of diminishing returns.
avichandana20000
Jul 6, 2020 at 7:14 PM
Ryzen 3rd gen needs new BIOS for B450 mobos, so ask vendor about that. AsRock B450 Pro4 & Asus TUF B450 are considered good B450 mobos.

Performance difference between 2400G & 3400G is like 10%, so better to get R5 2400G if you can find it for 10k. Its iGPU should work fine till 4K 60fps, so 1080p 144Hz should work, but for gaming, it's a bad CPU. Even cheaper R3 3100 outperforms R5 3400G if both are paired with same dedicated GPU.

DDR4 2400MHz is a slow RAM considering Ryzen performance scales well with RAM freq, but beyond 3600MHz or 3200MHz, its point of diminishing returns.
how is Asrock after sales service ?
avichandana20000
Jul 6, 2020 at 7:50 PM
ASUS TUF B450-PLUS GAMING MOTHERBOARD

ASUS TUF B450M PRO GAMING MOTHERBOARD


what is the difference?
omega44-xt
Jul 7, 2020 at 11:45 AM
ASUS TUF B450-PLUS GAMING MOTHERBOARD

ASUS TUF B450M PRO GAMING MOTHERBOARD


what is the difference?
B450M Pro gaming is mATX form factor, which is smaller than ATX form factor of B450 Plus. First one is just more compact, but you aren't missing anything major. Get whichever is cheaper, you will be fine.
omega44-xt
Jul 7, 2020 at 11:46 AM
how is Asrock after sales service ?
Decent enough, didn't hear many bad reviews like say MSI, which had a lot of issues due to new BIOS when Ryzen 3rd gen first launched.
W
Jul 7, 2020 at 1:52 PM
ASUS TUF B450-PLUS GAMING MOTHERBOARD

ASUS TUF B450M PRO GAMING MOTHERBOARD


what is the difference?

B450M Pro gaming is mATX form factor, which is smaller than ATX form factor of B450 Plus. First one is just more compact, but you aren't missing anything major. Get whichever is cheaper, you will be fine.

Tuf Pro has better VRMs & it is also harder to find.
avichandana20000
Jul 7, 2020 at 9:26 PM
Tuf Pro has better VRMs & it is also harder to find.

exactly... everywhere it is sold. will be obliged if some one can arrange 1 piece for me

Any equivalent from Asrock or Gigabyte for B450?
OR
B550 that has better VRMs ?
skeletor
skeletor #13
Jul 8, 2020 at 7:41 AM
If you go for an ASRock board, don't expect a fancy UI for BIOS/UEFI. It will be functional, but not fancy like Asus, Gigabyte and MSI tend to have.
W
Jul 8, 2020 at 10:56 AM
Pls suggest.

Any B450 Mobo Tier list with indian price to determine?

Thanks for RMA details.
No Indian list if that's what you mean, there are known tier lists for amd mobos. You can check this list &decide for yourself based on Indian prices:
*linustechtips.com/main/topic/1137619-motherboard-vrm-tier-list-v2-currently-amd-only/
avichandana20000
Jul 8, 2020 at 1:56 PM
Aorus Pro (& WiFi)ATXIntersil ISL957124+3

deciding this
W
Jul 8, 2020 at 2:02 PM
What's your budget, first decide that?
W
Jul 8, 2020 at 3:31 PM
previously 9k...now 12k
Why don't you want to buy asrock b450 pro 4 which is available? If looking for non-asrock options only then this is the next best option currently available:
*www.primeabgb.com/online-price-reviews-india/msi-b450-gaming-plus-max-am4-socket-motherboard/
avichandana20000
Jul 8, 2020 at 3:51 PM
That Asrock is not available..

MSI after sales service is what holding me back

also for containment zone things are not deliverable now. So will buy from MD/VEDANT

but how is Aorus Pro (& WiFi) really?
C
chetansha #20
Jul 8, 2020 at 5:24 PM
That Asrock is not available..

MSI after sales service is what holding me back

also for containment zone things are not deliverable now. So will buy from MD/VEDANT

but how is Aorus Pro (& WiFi) really?
Have a look at amd mbd tier wise on linus tech tips. It is goldmine of information

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W
Jul 8, 2020 at 10:16 PM
That Asrock is not available..

MSI after sales service is what holding me back

also for containment zone things are not deliverable now. So will buy from MD/VEDANT

but how is Aorus Pro (& WiFi) really?
You can't get delivery from primeabgb in your area in the city?

Check this thread, seems like msi rma has been improving but again nothing definitive.
*geek.digit.in/community/threads/msi-mobo-rma.208354/

Aorus pro lies in Tier E(75A current draw on little ambient airflow, maxed out 1600 and 3600, a bit more than maxed out 2500X) in linustechtip amd mobo tier list while asrock B450 pro 4 is a tier above in Tier D.
avichandana20000
Jul 10, 2020 at 12:13 AM
Thanks for the info. (Not able to find the tier ranking A,B,C,D in that database though)

The kind of work he is intended to do ... Aorus pro is enough i think.
Importing to my pin code and then sending again to his village is a PITA in this lockdown period.
So finally bought Aorus Pro.(finger crossed)
W
Jul 10, 2020 at 12:39 AM
Thanks for the info. (Not able to find the tier ranking A,B,C,D in that database though)
I was talking about this list which I posted on earlier page of this thread:
*linustechtips.com/main/topic/1137619-motherboard-vrm-tier-list-v2-currently-amd-only/