Cutting Prices Won't Save Windows Vista

Microsoft's recent announcement of a price cut for Windows Vista illustrates the desperate position the company is in. By all reasonable accounts Vista has failed and Microsoft is desperately trying to prop it up and put some lipstick on a very nasty and very flawed pig. Unfortunately, it won't work. Microsoft plans to cut prices is as confusing as its release of multiple version of the failed OS.

In the United States, Microsoft will reduce prices for Windows Vista Ultimate, the company's top-end operating system, to $319 from $399 for the full version and cut the price for an "upgrade" version to $219 from $259 for consumers who already run Windows XP or another edition of Vista.
It also cut prices for upgrade versions of Vista Home Premium, its mainstream product, to $129 from $159. The price cuts vary by country.
In emerging markets, Microsoft will stop selling "upgrade" versions of Vista, because, for many customers, it will be the first purchase of a genuine copy of Windows. The company will instead sell Vista Home Premium and Home Basic, a stripped-down version, at the upgrade prices.

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100 million units of Windows Vista already sold in only 14 months. What more you want!!!

But I do agree that windows XP is biggest rival of windows vista. But situation going to change after vista SP1.

ravi_9793 said:
100 million units of Windows Vista already sold in only 14 months. What more you want!!!

But I do agree that windows XP is biggest rival of windows vista. But situation going to change after vista SP1.

Me too agree that Vista is getting better after the release of SP1 as I experienced some performance increase with the SP1 RTM on my machine. Windows XP SP3 is coming after a great gap and it should have came before. Though XP was a great OS to work with and perhaps the most successful one too in the history.

Same old story repeated again, again and again in almost all threads. Stop it guys. Vista isn't a failure. It has surpassed expectation in sales.

^^ welcome to *www.think-anti-MS.com/forum

^

Guys vista sucks, but not its sales

yawn, alas price cut is a welcome gesture

ravi_9793 said:
100 million units of Windows Vista already sold in only 14 months. What more you want!!!

But I do agree that windows XP is biggest rival of windows vista. But situation going to change after vista SP1.

And main reason for it is OEM's selling their system with vista only.Give them choice and count the no. of units then

. You should conduct a survey to find how many out of 100 millions actually using it right now

Also Sp1 is mainly game centric.

iMav said:
^^ welcome to *www.think-anti-MS.com/forum

You better visit www.FaceTheReality.com :grin:

I'm not here to argue whether Vista is a failure or not

Microsoft dropped the prices pretty quickly didn't they. I wonder how all those who were the first to buy or upgrade are feeling.

The position of customers who bought Vista Ready PCs is even worse; they must be feeling miserable. A class action suit has been filed only in the US, what about other countries?

And Intel, well, they should not have colluded with Microsoft on this Vista Ready thing.

At the end of the day, as said in the article, customers will take another hard look at windows and the alternatives. They will also realise there is an alternative to Intel processors, AMD and Cyrix.

It's good for competition, and finally customer will be king.

IMO, OEMs are not the only reason for sale of Vista. Even hardware manufacturers are. I've had a tuff time getting some hardware work in XP and hence had to go with Vista.

wit vista they say...ts time 2 say good bye to 16bit app...so vista doesnt support it....wat if i wanna use....i bought lappy fr my coding purpose whr i needed dos but ts not supported....

blv it or not...saleof vista is backboned by xp only.....wit success of xp ppl thot vista is further improved version of xp from ms....i personally found 8 out of 10 ppl saying they done mistake by gettin vista....

it does hv benifits but wat sort.....

looks n appearance - get xp n vista theme

better details abt file transfer etc....agree...hope xp also has alternative

security...agree....better than xp but dun think ts safest.....m a net freak...already formatted my system 3 times in last 5mnths due 2 heavy intrusion of spywares...

now fr drawbacks-

it sells d system resources....my 1gb ram is alwez 60+ % consumed wit no work....

hv to run around places to get compatible programs....16 bit....forget it.....1 happening thing....since 16bit not supported so 2 get cpp coding i downloded borland for windows 300mb...it sed it need framework (some version) to b installed....i downloaded it 50 mb...it sed ts not supported by os....grrrrrrr!!!

slowwwwww.....

m soon planning 2 get rid of vista n go for xp n linux combo

Enjoy~!

I compare vista with phenom. both hopeless compared to competition.
hope to see next $indow$ look better.
I know for sure that phenom, with its architectural advantages, will become fine when B3 stepping, re-black edition launching, andsome manufacturing economics are taken care of.
But $indow$ is even architecturally bad.
M$ must do an apple and ditch Windows NT for Windows UT.

CadCrazy said:
And main reason for it is OEM's selling their system with vista only.

Because OEMs want to give best computing experience to their customers.

ravi_9793 said:
Because OEMs want to give best computing experience to their customers.

ROFL. Best computing Experience

HEHE!@ravi is joking.his posts are satire.he too hates vi$ta.

Parkash you should give vista a try to get best computing experience. I can gift you free DVD if you want

People just don't want to shift. What happened when Win XP had launched. People said its bad and were using Win 98. The same is happening with Win Vista. It will get its fair share.

casanova said:
People just don't want to shift. What happened when Win XP had launched. People said its bad and were using Win 98. The same is happening with Win Vista. It will get its fair share.

101% true.

NucleusKore said:
Microsoft dropped the prices pretty quickly didn't they.

It's been 1.5 years Vista was released, it is not quick to reduce prices.

F

Considering the way Microsoft has improved on its released Operating Systems. I wouldn't be surprised if they conjure something up to fix most of the problems in it. As I have said before XP before SP2 pretty much sucked. I don't expect anything different from Microsoft this time. But I'm pretty sure that out of one hundred million alot of it got sold based on its brand strength rather than product quality . And if they don't get their act right the next product whatever it is going to be isn't going to sell like hot cakes in the market.

i agree that vista takes up a lot of system resources but the OS is ment for a bit high graded systems. The world will slowly shift to the new hardware and then everyone will be using vista. If you talk about stability ppl used to think that 98 was the most stable OS ever made(it is) but now xp has proved to be as stable.

Time is what Vista needs. Give it some time

I had decided not to post in OS related threads coz of wat goes on in them

But this time I just couldn't resist. So here I go:

Gigacore said:
^
Guys vista sucks, but not its sales

Vista doesn't suck

. I 've 1GB RAM, AMD 64 X2 3800+ & Nvidia 6150 onboard graphics. It runs fine. Never had a BSoD. Actually I forced a BSoD once with a really messed up driver.

CadCrazy said:
And main reason for it is OEM's selling their system with vista only.Give them choice and count the no. of units then . You should conduct a survey to find how many out of 100 millions actually using it right now
Also Sp1 is mainly game centric.

OEM sales only? You forgot corporate sales! I myself removed Vista on my laptop & installed XP. But I came back to Vista. It's my primary OS on both laptop & desktop.

SP1 is not just for gamers! It fixes most of the issues like speed etc.

NucleusKore said:
I'm not here to argue whether Vista is a failure or not

Microsoft dropped the prices pretty quickly didn't they. I wonder how all those who were the first to buy or upgrade are feeling.

The position of customers who bought Vista Ready PCs is even worse; they must be feeling miserable. A class action suit has been filed only in the US, what about other countries?

It was not that quick. It took more than a year to drop the prices. Take an example. You bought N95 in a week's time after it's release & after six months where's the price going?

infra_red_dude said:
IMO, OEMs are not the only reason for sale of Vista. Even hardware manufacturers are. I've had a tuff time getting some hardware work in XP and hence had to go with Vista.

True. But I managed to find all the drivers for my hardware. XP ran fine. But I shifted back to Vista. IMO Vista is more stable. I never had to reset my computer with Vista running!

speedyguy said:
it does hv benifits but wat sort.....

looks n appearance - get xp n vista theme

better details abt file transfer etc....agree...hope xp also has alternative

security...agree....better than xp but dun think ts safest.....m a net freak...already formatted my system 3 times in last 5mnths due 2 heavy intrusion of spywares...

now fr drawbacks-

it sells d system resources....my 1gb ram is alwez 60+ % consumed wit no work....

slowwwwww.....

1. Vista is installed on my computer for the last six months, atleast. I never got infected! There's no virus, spyware or any kind of malware. I use Windows Defender+Windows Firewall+Norton Antivirus 2007. Vista runs fine with all these turned on on my above mentioned configuration.

2. Vista is not for computers of the Windows 98/Me era. It utilises RAM to the best. Memory is not wasted just to show it as free. You need to read about that to understand it

. I agree it requires atleast 1GB of RAM to run smoothly. 1GB of RAM(DDR 2-667) costs just 800-900 Bucks these days.

i dont think vista will go down... actually it way better.. many are hard coded...

give few more months .. vista will beat XP...

xp .. is awesome no doubt .. but vista is better than xp.... in many ways...

narangz said:
IMO Vista is more stable. I never had to reset my computer with Vista running!

Lol

^^^ y buddy???

even i hadnt had restart ??

CadCrazy said:
Lol

U really need to have Vista experience. All vista user are well satisfied.

speedyguy said:
wit vista they say...ts time 2 say good bye to 16bit app...so vista doesnt support it....wat if i wanna use....i bought lappy fr my coding purpose whr i needed dos but ts not supported....

Vista has full & proper support for 16bit apps.

it sells d system resources....my 1gb ram is alwez 60+ % consumed wit no work....

Instead of sitting Idle, the RAM is being used for caching purpose.

CadCrazy said:
Lol

LOL at your LOL

ravi_9793 said:
U really need to have Vista experience. All vista user are well satisfied.

I guess he has already experienced the WOW!

But he wont admit it. FOSS rocks! Vista & MS sucks in every department

nobody have any problems with ethical issues associated with Vi$ta :-|

I mean THIS :-|

Thing about THIS :-|

^^ You already posted a link about DRM in this thread

before attacking me for posting DRM+Vi$ta,u shouldve shared ur idea on the spreading of DRM by M$. :-|

^^Na. I don't attack anyone. I had anti DRM signature from the last 3-4 months. Changed it some days ago.
Vaise bhi who wants DRM?

Rest In Pieces DRM

BTW- MS didn't 'invent' it.

well, I have used vista RC1, and Vista Home Basic. And my experience with vista is very good. Well cant say about others.

And I am planing to buy Vista home premium with my new system. Just need some budget.

H

When Xp came out people were saying almost similar things like 98 is stable, xp needs more ram, needs more hdd space (just over a gig compared to about 200MB for 98 ). Same thing is happening to vista.

I've been using vista ultimate for like 3months, no probs no bsod, so many old softwares ran without any prob. I think its better than xp, and I like the networking features, the windows card games looks cool. Though it's a little slow on my slow system, i have no complains,

I think its a good thing people should move towards new things, and prices also are dropping like heaven nowadays, so who cares about hardware, the latest config now after a year is gonna look like PIII.

And why are some guys so upset about the vista hate thing, surely this is not the last OS by Microsoft. Lots of things are lying in the future.

I dunno why but I've never heard saying that Win98 is good while speaking bad about XP. Everywhere.. I mean everywhere ppl were happy about XP and wanted to ditch 98 due to crashes. Guess thats coz they already had tasted the stability of Win2K over which XP basically is built. I dunno why you guys keep saying that ppl hailed 98 when XP was launched. Or mebbe I was in Mars that time!!!

S

Actually, Anirudh, if I remember correctly, when XP came and upto SP2, many people preferred Win2k for stability and Win98 for simple home use... Home users found Win98 more home-friendly than Win2k and were willing to take the security risks involved (at that point it was not half as bad as it is today)

Arun

^^^ Yeah Win2K, 98 whatever. But I've never heard people say 98 is/was more stable than XP when launched, as some people here keep saying all the time!!!!

ravi_9793 said:
U really need to have Vista experience. All vista user are well satisfied.

Rightly said and I am quite happy with Vista these days. After getting SP1 and installing it upon a new installation of Vista is just a smooth experience. I am now running even better with Vista SP1.

MS did a fantastic job with SP1. I also have Ubuntu Gutsy Gibbon installer on my old PC and I do not hate linux. But I think it will need more improvement over times.

Vista is surely more stable than XP. It just consumes too many resources. Apart from that, it's great.

But I prefer XP, coz I prefer a speedy PC to a pretty one.

@ narangz, if you use all those softwares on XP, then you won't get afflicted either.

FilledVoid said:
...As I have said before XP before SP2 pretty much sucked.......

I'll agree on this one. I bought my XP license only after SP2 OS came out.

F

U really need to have Vista experience. All vista user are well satisfied.

well, I have used vista RC1, and Vista Home Basic. And my experience with vista is very good. Well cant say about others.

Your second quote is correct. It may have been good for you , but it was horrible for me. Maybe later when they come out with another service pack I'll try it again. From what I hear SP1 wasn't really upto the mark :/ .

ring_wraith said:
Vista is surely more stable than XP. It just consumes too many resources. Apart from that, it's great.

But I prefer XP, coz I prefer a speedy PC to a pretty one.

Vista is also fast, all you need is decent hardware configuration.

infra_red_dude said:
I dunno why but I've never heard saying that Win98 is good while speaking bad about XP. Everywhere.. I mean everywhere ppl were happy about XP and wanted to ditch 98 due to crashes. Guess thats coz they already had tasted the stability of Win2K over which XP basically is built. I dunno why you guys keep saying that ppl hailed 98 when XP was launched. Or mebbe I was in Mars that time!!!

Yes, XP was & is stable than 98. But those RPC reboots & other issues before SP1 made many people, I know, switch back to 98. SP2 just changed the whole story. For people like me XP+SP2 meant a new OS. Seriously I didn't care about Longhorn & Vista delays as I was more than happy with XP+SP2.

Coming back to topic- I really want MS to price their products more sensibly in India. We don't earn USD & they expect us to spend our INR converted to USD. You can't kill piracy with Activations & Genuine Advantage. People will find a way out. Sell the products with sane pricing & I bet most of us will buy the genuine license. Agree?

^Agree

Although pricing has been a lil better with Vista Home (Premium and Basic) editions, compared to XP Pro. But it needs to improve.

I dont think there is any problem with 16 bit programs in Vista, i personally run Turbo CPP in Vista, no problems at all.

SP1 has really improved the file system performance in Vista, although performance on USB drives has got worse. Throughput on pen drives is very less even compared to Vista RTM.

As for the stability and performance, i am using vista for about last 12 months. At first i did had problems with some applications, compatibility issues mostly. But as soon as i neutralized them by either upgrading or finding something better (i found compat problems with 3 out of about 60 odd softwares and utilities installed on my lappy). From that time till now, system is running smoothly and i reinstalled only once, deliberately, not because of any problem, while installing SP1 RTM ( i wanted it on a fresh install for my inner satisfactions

).

I can't understand how people don't get tired writing same things again and again even when they are explained b4 countless number of times. Consuming more RAM is not an issue, its a feature, this has been explained countless number of times on various forums and blogs, including my own, but no effect of that. On my lappy with 1.5 GB of ram, my available physical memory is always 10-40 MB, so what?? my lappy runs even smoothly then windows coz almost all the programs that i use frequently are precached into RAM. How in the world is this a bad thing???? Moreover this RAM is never paged and whenever a program requires memory to run, its freed instantly.

And in my personal experience, i hadn't ever hit by a virus or a worm or a trojan with my default setup of Windows Defender, Windows Firewall and Disabled Kaspersky Antivirus (only use it when i myself want to scan a disk or file). For me, UAC was once an irritant, but it has repeatedly shown its usefulness to me when i accidentally double clicked on a virus file while cleaning it. It never allowed it to run. Even when the exe was run by my younger bro, its wasn't able to do anything because of the low-permissions-by-default security model. I am thankful for this feature as it has saved many of my productive hours ( a serious .NET programmer knows how much time it takes to take the fresh machine back to the state before attack, a hardcore tweaker knows even better

). This protection may not be adequate for all types of viruses, but the most common ones , The USB drives based viruses, are out of your PC with Vista.

So things were improved with Vista and things have improved with SP1 even more. Vista is different by design and it takes very little time to know how to work around with these differences. Thats true with every OS, even linux, in my honest personal openion.

I HAV DITCHED XP N USIN ONLY VISTA :mrgreen:

Krazy_About_Technology said:
For me, UAC was once an irritant, but it has repeatedly shown its usefulness to me when i accidentally double clicked on a virus file while cleaning it. It never allowed it to run. Even when the exe was run by my younger bro, its wasn't able to do anything because of the low-permissions-by-default security model. I am thankful for this feature as it has saved many of my productive hours ( a serious .NET programmer knows how much time it takes to take the fresh machine back to the state before attack, a hardcore tweaker knows even better ). This protection may not be adequate for all types of viruses, but the most common ones , The USB drives based viruses, are out of your PC with Vista.

+1 My views are absolutely similar!

I have one quiestion why ms made window vista ... a person genrally buy high system fore gaming or multimedia but vista doesnot help in gaming at all and if they have made it for office use well then i dont think offices use high end machine.. They should make os that sqeeze every ouns of power from a machine.. so that games can be played well

bkpeerless said:
I have one quiestion why ms made window vista ... a person genrally buy high system fore gaming or multimedia but vista doesnot help in gaming at all and if they have made it for office use well then i dont think offices use high end machine.. They should make os that sqeeze every ouns of power from a machine.. so that games can be played well

1. Gaming Use- Vista doesn't help gaming? :grin:

Heard about Direct X 10?
2. Office Use- Does a processor worth 3.5K, Mobo worth 3.5K & RAM worth 900 bucks come in high level machine category?

@Krazy_About_technology: plz guide me how 2 use cpp 16bit in vista...m not able 2 get fullscreen on it so cant use graphics commands

Enjoy~!

ravi_9793 said:
U really need to have Vista experience. All vista user are well satisfied.

You may be right. I have some version of windows but i don't know. Can you guys plz help me figure out which edition this is (picture attached)

*img176.imageshack.us/img176/3820/vistaidioteditionta1is2.jpg

ravi_9793 said:
Vista is also fast, all you need is decent hardware configuration.

Yes vista is very fast. It has set 2007 speed record

CadCrazy said:
You may be right. I have some version of windows but i don't know. Can you guys plz help me figure out which edition this is (picture attached)

Yes vista is very fast. It has set 2007 speed record

If you don't know how to use Windows, then it is not the fault of MS that it is slow for u.

What u have is a vLite edition of Vista.

bkpeerless said:
I have one quiestion why ms made window vista ... a person genrally buy high system fore gaming or multimedia but vista doesnot help in gaming at all and if they have made it for office use well then i dont think offices use high end machine.. They should make os that sqeeze every ouns of power from a machine.. so that games can be played well

High end gaming machine = DirectX 10

Multimedia = Vista Media Center

what else do u want in an OS, Let me know?

@Speedguy: I am sorry dear, my bad. I hadn't checked TC after installing vista. It indeed doesn't runs on Vista on its own.

But you can run it without any problem with DOSBox, the dos emulator. It can run tc in full screen. Download it from *prdownloads.sourceforge.net/dosbox/DOSBox0.72-win32-installer.exe?download. Its a small 1.4 mb download.

After installing start it from desktop shortcut, mount your tc\bin directory as drive c and any additional dirs (containing your source files etc) as other drives, if you want. The command to mount a directory as a drive in DOSBox is :

Code:

mount <driveletter> <actual_directory>

ex: to mount c:\tc\bin as c: type:

z:\>mount c c:\tc\bin

there you go, just type tc on the prompt now to start the ide. you can go fullscreen using standard alt+enter.
If you want to make these settings permanent, there is an option to do so i think. Also there are many frontend program available as a seperate download from *www.dosbox.com/download.php?main=1.

As for a better alternative, try relo with borland c compiler. Search for a thread on this forum in programming section with this name. It contains download info and all.

gx_saurav said:
What u have is a vLite edition of Vista.

What make you think that

ya iv tried relo but ts not compiling my borland codes....2ndly tried that doxbox....ts workin fine but i think graphics still not working on it....it trips out 2 windows on exec

Enjoy~!

CadCrazy said:
You may be right. I have some version of windows but i don't know. Can you guys plz help me figure out which edition this is (picture attached)
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It's the Idiot Version

Jugnu control kar yaar.

narangz said:
Coming back to topic- I really want MS to price their products more sensibly in India. We don't earn USD & they expect us to spend our INR converted to USD. You can't kill piracy with Activations & Genuine Advantage. People will find a way out. Sell the products with sane pricing & I bet most of us will buy the genuine license. Agree?

+1, I couldn't agree more!

Its not that MS should give Vista for free but it can price it right... Why only Thailand and other oriental countries got a price cut to counter piracy while India is neglected? Its not just MS, look at Apple...

@CadCrazy, I cant help you..if you dont know how to use windows OS.
I have small and very good vista experience.

bkpeerless said:
I have one quiestion why ms made window vista ... a person genrally buy high system fore gaming or multimedia but vista doesnot help in gaming at all and if they have made it for office use well then i dont think offices use high end machine.. They should make os that sqeeze every ouns of power from a machine.. so that games can be played well

been a long time since i read a good joke :lol:

narangz said:
It's the Idiot Version

Jugnu control kar yaar.

Actually yaar i was getting bored so i edited the screenshot & pasted it here. Baki sab fanboys yahi bol rahe hai ki tumhe window use nahin karni aati. Jo main dikahna chah raha hun woh nahin dekh pa rahe hain ( fanboyism ne unki aankhon pe parda dal diya hai) .Sirf tumne sahi point ko pakda hai

ravi_9793 said:
@CadCrazy, I cant help you..if you dont know how to use windows OS.
I have small and very good vista experience.

And who asked you for help

speedyguy said:
ya iv tried relo but ts not compiling my borland codes....2ndly tried that doxbox....ts workin fine but i think graphics still not working on it....it trips out 2 windows on exec

Enjoy~!

BGI Graphics is working without any problem, just the keyboard shortcuts are having problem coz they conflict with dosboxs'. Dont use them or somehow configure them, there should be something given on the site or in readme. use menus to run programs. I for testing ran this program and it worked nicely.

Code:

#include<stdio.h>
#include<conio.h>
#include<graphics.h>

void main()
{
  int gd=DETECT, gm;
  initgraph(&gd, &gm, "c:\\tc\\bgi");
  line(100,100,200,100);
  getch();
  closegraph();
  restorecrtmode();
}

dosbox shud work as it sez it supports graphics n sound drivers from windows....but none of my progs r gettin executed...it trips out aftr comliling just at time f execution....

Enjoy~!

Dunno whats the problem with your config, on my lappy with intel gma 915 graphics and default installation of dosbox, its running fine. Which graphics solution you are using, by the way?

And yes, please also make sure you are giving the correct path of BGI library.

One minute, are you mounting your c:\tc\bin directory as c drive? Oh that wont work, sorry about my previous post. mount c:\tc as drive c or better c:\ as drive c and then give the proper path to initgraph, ex c:\\tc\\bgi

Hope this will solve your problem.

Talking about compatibility, i feel that its increasing. And with new versions of software coming out very fast that are fully compatible with Vista, the compatibility problems are not going to last. Ya, as i wrote before, i too was at first sight was very, kind of unhappy to see some of my really close to heart programs not working properly in Vista (i must mention HTMLGate html editor, its not in development now and its last version quits with an error at startup on Vista). But then, the weightage i give to the security, stability, performance and innovation that i personally feel i am getting with vista, the wise move was to move on. And there came the express editions of Visual Web Developer 05 and then 08. All my problems were solved. These are really good, standard compliant HTML and javascript editors and with vs 08 express you also have full Javascript intellisense, so why will needs anything else anyway. Secondly, since i have professionally shifted to .NET, i mean the ASP.NET+AJAX+Silverlight combo for web development, these things work great, although at work i use full version of VS, obiviously. And by the way for PHP development the version of PHP Designer by the same company works very well with Vista, and there are other great products for that as well. As a sidenote, most of the problems that i had with my programs were solved by running them in admin or WinXP SP2 compat mode.

Do not want to hijack the thread, but

1. Anyone know the latest retail / OEM price (in India) for Vista home premium ?

2. For normal use, home premium is quite ok ?

my graphics is nvidia....ur way ts running fine wit editor screen in full mode...only hangs up at execution....

Enjoy~!

din said:
Do not want to hijack the thread, but

1. Anyone know the latest retail / OEM price (in India) for Vista home premium ?

2. For normal use, home premium is quite ok ?

1.- *www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showpost.php?p=603048&postcount=2

Though they have further cut the price. Its 5K, I guess.

2. Yes. It has got almost all the stuff for general home use. However don't go for Home Basic.

Thank you for the info. Yes, I saw Choto_Cheeta's post, but thought it might be changed as the post was on 12-09-2007. So it will be 5K now ? Hmm, not very bad.

^^ You didn't hijack

It was actually related to topic.
The price is for OEM.

*theitwares.com/misc/misc.htm

It says Rs. 5200. I am not sure if the price cut has shown effect in India.

narangz said:
^^ You didn't hijack It was actually related to topic.
The price is for OEM.

*theitwares.com/misc/misc.htm

It says Rs. 5200. I am not sure if the price cut has shown effect in India.

I will buy it...if its for Rs.520 and not Rs.5200..else axxo's way

axxo said:
I will buy it...if its for Rs.520 and not Rs.5200..else axxo's way

+1

Its still costly and has ultra low VFM.

What about ultimate edition ?

^+1 . I'd rather spend the 5k upgrading my system than by Vista.
@Metal Head, Ultimate is 10k , can you believe it?
*theitwares.com/misc/misc.htm

rayraven said:
^+1 . I'd rather spend the 5k upgrading my system than by Vista.
@Metal Head, Ultimate is 10k , can you believe it?
*theitwares.com/misc/misc.htm

crazy man!
who the hell will want to spend 10k for Vista when you can get a great graphics card or a quad core processor for the same price ?

^Like I said , I'd rather upgrade my system , than buy Vista,

Wait, its a paradox, We have to upgrade to use vista too

rayraven said:
^Like I said , I'd rather upgrade my system , than buy Vista,

Wait, its a paradox, We have to upgrade to use vista too

good one