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Did i just get scammed by eBay scammer?

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mikael_schiffer
mikael_schiffer Original post #1
Nov 22, 2017 at 10:52 AM
So i bought a graphic card last week from eBay from seller called smartphone_wear
Yesterday i got a call from an eBay representative, called Ravi Kumar Ph No. 9874848282 telling me i have won assured gift congrats blah blah. I was asked to select a prize from several electronics. I choose the iPhone 7.

I was suspicious, but then they said that i was selected from among several buyers and they even said that i recently bought a graphic card for xyz amount. So i kinda trusted them since it seemed legit. But they had a condition that i had to make a purchase worth Rs5000 and above in their name. I decided to buy a 2TB USB HDD worth Rs5950 I asked to do payment via PayTM so i made two monetary transactions.
One worth Rs5000
Other worth Rs950
Both to this phone number 80135541084

Now today this morning they call me up and ask me to pay Rs11,000 for GST for the iPhone prize . I refused and i asked for some proof that they are legit from EBay.

I think i am fooled and can anyone advice me ho i can get my Rs5950 back. Can i take some action via eBay since they have my private information like what items i bought (or maybe eBay gave these info to them)
Nerevarine
Nov 22, 2017 at 5:44 PM
You made the transaction by paytm, ebay cant do shit. Ask paytm to revert the transaction, or your bank to create a chargeback request (very unlikely if u arent using an international bank card).
You should atleast post details about authenticity of deal in the forum before making such purchases.
Flash
Flash #3
Nov 22, 2017 at 6:02 PM
IMO eBay can't do anything, unless you didn't receive the product as promised. The scammer could've gotten the product & its related info from the seller (which we won't know 100% sure) or from you without your knowledge (maybe if you're active on social media) or the 3rd person like the product & price/address/contact details based on the shipping details present on the package box.

Your best bet is to check with PayTM explaining the scenario of what happened to you - but they're unlikely to revert the amount back, as you've wantedly recharged that number. You should contact that person, collect some details/record conversations to prove that, they're indeed a scam to file FIR or go via legal way.
icebags
icebags #4
Nov 23, 2017 at 12:00 AM
ebay can only meddle in when you make transactions through them, dude. why you responded such way to a suspicious call from an unknown person.

people normally don't even like to take banking service via fone when an unknown person calls as bank representatives these days.
Zangetsu
Nov 24, 2017 at 1:37 PM
The PayTm number u have paid to is definitely fake, log a police complaint to your nearest place.

And remember one thing: Caveat Emptor
There is NO condition in an assured gift. (Not related to fullfilling monetary transaction to get it).

A Gift is a Gift which is priceless, and is given at no cost.

I also got such calls in the past of collecting the assured gift, and once u reach there they will brainwash u to buy there non-sense money doubling policies.
mikael_schiffer
Nov 26, 2017 at 3:27 AM
WHat will happen if i lodge a complaint with the police. Will i get my money back
mikael_schiffer
Nov 26, 2017 at 3:30 AM
You made the transaction by paytm, ebay cant do shit. Ask paytm to revert the transaction, or your bank to create a chargeback request (very unlikely if u arent using an international bank card).
You should atleast post details about authenticity of deal in the forum before making such purchases.
How did he get my number and my transaction history. The blame should go to the ebay seller who literally sold my private information to scammers
Nerevarine
Nov 26, 2017 at 1:25 PM
How did he get my number and my transaction history. The blame should go to the ebay seller who literally sold my private information to scammers
There is absolutely no way to prove that.
saikiasunny
Nov 26, 2017 at 10:51 PM
These scams are performed by internal employees or the warehouse guys. They are usually some low level employees that get the order details and make calls on their own end. The same was going on with HomeShop18. Some employees would leak the info and try to lure the buyer to send money via PayTM.

In your case, it's either the seller's employees or maybe even the shipping guys.
W
Nov 26, 2017 at 11:55 PM
Take it as a learning experience.Nothing in this world comes for free.If next time somebody tells you to get iPhone 11 by paying 10k then you would be knowing better.
Vyom
Vyom #12
Nov 27, 2017 at 8:58 AM
The best you can do is to put so many negative reviews of the seller, that atleast it defame them. But yea, it's your fault to fall for such scam. Paying via paytm to some personal number! No one can save you from that unfortunately.
W
Nov 27, 2017 at 11:24 AM
Well there are people who even give OTP on phone to persons claiming to be from bank so...
Nerevarine
Nov 27, 2017 at 12:04 PM
Well there are people who even give OTP on phone to persons claiming to be from bank so...

Encountered such people, if they are old and not tech savvy, then its fine. Its our duty to teach them that, but there are stupid "tech savvy" youngsters that make this mistake too. Darwin award goes to them.
Zangetsu
Zangetsu #15
Nov 27, 2017 at 7:58 PM
Well there are people who even give OTP on phone to persons claiming to be from bank so...
True...and that is why banks are sending sms and mails for the awareness of not sharing such info
Zangetsu
Zangetsu #16
Nov 27, 2017 at 8:01 PM
How did he get my number and my transaction history. The blame should go to the ebay seller who literally sold my private information to scammers
You just can't blame the seller for selling your info...the whole world is selling private data..including the Telecom companies.
Have u ever wondered how the Credit card companies and Personal loans agents get your name and mobile number ? how the Charity Trust gets your details ?
They all buy from every source they can get into.
icebags
icebags #17
Nov 27, 2017 at 11:07 PM
if you have recordings of the phone call, you can give it to ebay and also to police for fir. and see if anything happens.
C
chetansha #18
Nov 28, 2017 at 8:58 PM
Do I have permission to post above story in Twitter?

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mikael_schiffer
Nov 30, 2017 at 12:47 PM
Guys, i just called them up.
The same reciever picked up, i recognise his voice. He askes me my name and my registered number and i gave him.
Then you know what he said?
" Aapne complain kia tha na? " (i did send an email to my GPU seller threatening to contact the police"
I replied " maine seller ke yaha complain kiya"
And he says " sorry kuch nahi milega" and hangs up

When i try to call back he cuts the call.

I think this pretty much proves that the seller and the scammer are the same.

His number is 098748 48282
Guys plz convince him to refund my money
mikael_schiffer
Nov 30, 2017 at 12:48 PM
I will pay u have the refunded money via paytm if u can solve my case. (Thats Rs2500 for you)
mikael_schiffer
Nov 30, 2017 at 12:57 PM
My last conversation with the ebay seller who sold me the graphic card. The scammer apparently read this email and knew i had or attempted to go to police.
C
chetansha #23
Nov 30, 2017 at 8:44 PM
Have you contacted paytm. Any reply from them

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Nerevarine
Nov 30, 2017 at 9:51 PM
Guys, i just called them up.
The same reciever picked up, i recognise his voice. He askes me my name and my registered number and i gave him.
Then you know what he said?
" Aapne complain kia tha na? " (i did send an email to my GPU seller threatening to contact the police"
I replied " maine seller ke yaha complain kiya"
And he says " sorry kuch nahi milega" and hangs up

When i try to call back he cuts the call.

I think this pretty much proves that the seller and the scammer are the same.

His number is 098748 48282
Guys plz convince him to refund my money
did u record the call ? If not darwin award goes to you. Nothing can be done, no one will call.
mikael_schiffer
Dec 1, 2017 at 11:07 AM
did u record the call ? If not darwin award goes to you. Nothing can be done, no one will call.
Yea, and what am i gonna do with that recorded call? Send to police and then what?
W
Dec 1, 2017 at 11:38 AM
You can try it with paytm/ebay.Though chances of getting your money back with this is very low,at least you may help other potential victims of such scam by making ebay/paytm block/put under watch this account/mobile number.
Zangetsu
Zangetsu #27
Dec 1, 2017 at 2:07 PM
Gather all the evidences/documents u have and lodge an FIR. and then it will be handled by the Cyber Crime department.

Waiting for days for a Miracle to happen, won't get you anywhere.

Do it now, Act fast.

also, give the seller in ebay the negative rating (if u haven't).
Zangetsu
Zangetsu #28
Dec 1, 2017 at 2:10 PM
WHat will happen if i lodge a complaint with the police. Will i get my money back
Doing something is better than Nothing.
Police will help you catch the culprit.
C
chetansha #29
Dec 1, 2017 at 2:35 PM
Cyber Crime Cells in India

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B
Dec 5, 2017 at 6:48 PM
I will pay u have the refunded money via paytm if u can solve my case. (Thats Rs2500 for you)
I sympathize with you but this is utter bull. Do you really think someone here has the time or power to "solve" this? No. I am sorry that it happened to you. Everyone has bad days. This is life. Do what others have suggested you to do. I bet you haven't lodged a FIR till date.
K
Dec 20, 2017 at 4:05 PM
Go to police station and lodge a FIR. Its so easy.

You are helping scammer by not lodging a FIR. At least try and dont scared by police. Maximum they will say no and ask you to lodge complain as "lost".

Try to Contact cyber crime branch via social media, phone, etc.

eBay never ask you to make payment outside of ebay so you cant even contact ebay for help.

If I am correct then you are not going to lodge FIR so last option is contact your bank and they will provide dispute form via email. Fill it and provide scanned copy of form with your signature.

Then seller will need to provide delivery proof. Paytm will revert money from receiver and you will receive refund. FIR will be helpful for you to provide it to Paytm. They will not close your account for dispute.