Does redmi note 7 pro is hi-fi audio compliant or not.

R

Hi I am Rupesh from India and at present I am using redmi note 4 with 64 GB and snapdragon processor ie., mido. I want to buy a new smartphone which provides high quality audio ie., which has separate component for audio processing.

Two years back I thought to buy a new smartphone which has separate component for audio processing and found that mi note series smartphones have separate component for audio processing and I have brought redmi note 4.

At present I am searching for a new smartphone which has separate component for audio processing and so I have examined the specifications of redmi note 7 pro and unfortunately I found that it does not have separate component for audio processing I mean it is not hifi audio compliant.

At present I have also searched for other smartphone which has separate component for audio processing and found a smartphone named zte axon mini ion gold. This particular phone is very affordable.

I would like to buy redmi note 7 pro happily if it is hifi audio compliant. Can anyone of you suggest any other smartphone which is hifi compliant and at the same time affordable.

Please examine the following links and also examine the specifications of redmi note 7 pro and confirm whether it is hifi audio compliant or not.

Mi Global Home

*www.amazon.in/ZTE-AXON-Mini-ion-Gold/dp/B01L1TVH14

Regards,
Rupesh.

rupeshforu3 said:
Rupesh from India

Dude, this is an Indian forum, everyone is Indian here.

B

rupeshforu3 said:
Hi I am Rupesh from India and at present I am using redmi note 4 with 64 GB and snapdragon processor ie., mido. I want to buy a new smartphone which provides high quality audio ie., which has separate component for audio processing.

Two years back I thought to buy a new smartphone which has separate component for audio processing and found that mi note series smartphones have separate component for audio processing and I have brought redmi note 4.

At present I am searching for a new smartphone which has separate component for audio processing and so I have examined the specifications of redmi note 7 pro and unfortunately I found that it does not have separate component for audio processing I mean it is not hifi audio compliant.

At present I have also searched for other smartphone which has separate component for audio processing and found a smartphone named zte axon mini ion gold. This particular phone is very affordable.

I would like to buy redmi note 7 pro happily if it is hifi audio compliant. Can anyone of you suggest any other smartphone which is hifi compliant and at the same time affordable.

Please examine the following links and also examine the specifications of redmi note 7 pro and confirm whether it is hifi audio compliant or not.

Mi Global Home

*www.amazon.in/ZTE-AXON-Mini-ion-Gold/dp/B01L1TVH14

Regards,
Rupesh.

Brother fill this-
1. Budget?
2. Display type and size?
3. Dual sim?
4. Preferred choice of brand?
5. What camera option you want (flash, front facing camera)?
6. Preferred operating system? (Android, iOS,Stock Android etc).
7. Preferred connectivity options (Dual 4G,802.11AC or 5Ghz wifi).
8. Primary use of handset (multimedia, camera, internet, gaming etc)?
9. Any specific mobile phones in consideration?
10. Any other info that you want to share

W

Let me get this straight,you want to buy a 3 year old android mobile stuck on Lolipop for almost 6k just to get "hi-fi audio compatibility". I am not an audiophile so may be wrong but I think you need at least a 5-6k earphone to notice the difference between a "hi-fi audio" mobile & one not having it.

whitestar_999 said:
I am not an audiophile so may be wrong but I think you need at least a 5-6k earphone to notice the difference between a "hi-fi audio" mobile & one not having it.

Most current mid-range and above phones have good enough output via 3.5mm jack. I just checked a flac file on Oneplus 3 which lacks such "hi-fi" audio chip using HD 598SE, E10c and brainwavz delta. The first two sounded great but delta was disappointing.
I don't think OP should spend money on any old phone for that chip but on a good earphone (like E10c) would be a worthy investment, even for use with RN4.

R

billubakra said:
Brother fill this-
1. Budget?
2. Display type and size?
3. Dual sim?
4. Preferred choice of brand?
5. What camera option you want (flash, front facing camera)?
6. Preferred operating system? (Android, iOS,Stock Android etc).
7. Preferred connectivity options (Dual 4G,802.11AC or 5Ghz wifi).
8. Primary use of handset (multimedia, camera, internet, gaming etc)?
9. Any specific mobile phones in consideration?
10. Any other info that you want to share

Hi I am providing specifications below
1) budget is below 15000 rupees
2) touch screen with dust resistant and gorilla glass
3) single sim is enough
4) any brand which is hifi compatible
5) I don't give any preference to camara and so I don't need any extra features like flash, HDR, high resolution etc.,.
6) android os is enough and I don't want iOS, windows etc.,.
7) single sim with 4g compatible is enough. Normal WiFi is enough. Bluetooth is must
8) As already specified I want good phone to listen high quality music and so I want good phone for multimedia.
9) zte axon 7 plus, Alcatel idol 4s, all Sony xperia phones which are below 15000 etc.,.
10) some of the Sony xperia phones provides audio with hires I mean you can't get such audio quality in any other phones. There are some other phones which are HiFi compatible I mean they provide medium audio quality than others.

As I love to listen music I am searching for a multimedia phone which provide high quality audio playback. I want good phone with lowest price and so it may be manufactured 3 years back even I am ready to buy. Phone with 32 GB internal memory is also acceptable.

Sent from my Redmi Note 4X using Tapatalk

R

whitestar_999 said:
Let me get this straight,you want to buy a 3 year old android mobile stuck on Lolipop for almost 6k just to get "hi-fi audio compatibility". I am not an audiophile so may be wrong but I think you need at least a 5-6k earphone to notice the difference between a "hi-fi audio" mobile & one not having it.

Some of the Sony xperia phones provides audio quality with hires and so can you try to examine them which are below 15000 to 16000.

If I can't get hires phone then I would prefer to buy any HiFi compatible phone.

I am ready to buy any phone which provide hires audio and if not at least HiFi audio.

I am not going to consider how many years back the device has been manufactured.

Previously I mean five years back I visited mobile store and seen Sony xperia phone and I was attracted to its features especially audio and at that time the price was 40000/- but I can't remember model number. Is there any possibility to get that phone below 17000 to 18000.

Sent from my Redmi Note 4X using Tapatalk

R

SaiyanGoku said:
Most current mid-range and above phones have good enough output via 3.5mm jack. I just checked a flac file on Oneplus 3 which lacks such "hi-fi" audio chip using HD 598SE, E10c and brainwavz delta. The first two sounded great but delta was disappointing.
I don't think OP should spend money on any old phone for that chip but on a good earphone (like E10c) would be a worthy investment, even for use with RN4.

I am in hesitation which phone to buy I mean redmi note 7 which doesn't have any special component for audio processing or phones like zte axon 7, Alcatel idol 4s, Sony xperia compact etc.,.

I am thinking that Hires or at least HiFi phones provides high quality audio.

In the present phone I am using sound enhancers like Dolby atmos, Dolby digital plus, viper, Dirac , Sony music module etc.,. I am using these enhancing software's by flashing arise sound mod.

Does sound enhancer like Dolby atmos provide high quality audio or all these enhancing software's are trash.

Sent from my Redmi Note 4X using Tapatalk

How about you get a decent 10-12k phone, wait for few months to get a headphone amplifier for around 5k. We have a thread here in audio section about the AMP mentioning about FiiO. Check that out.

R

Just now I found that xiomi mi a1 is HiFi audio compliant.

Can you crosscheck whether it is HiFi audio compliant or not.

Sent from my Redmi Note 4X using Tapatalk

B

Have you used today's gen phones with good headphones? You won't ask for hifi phones if you have.

if you are searching for hifi compliant, your best bet would be an old LG V20

rupeshforu3 said:
Hi I am providing specifications below
1) budget is below 15000 rupees
2) touch screen with dust resistant and gorilla glass
3) single sim is enough
4) any brand which is hifi compatible
5) I don't give any preference to camara and so I don't need any extra features like flash, HDR, high resolution etc.,.
6) android os is enough and I don't want iOS, windows etc.,.
7) single sim with 4g compatible is enough. Normal WiFi is enough. Bluetooth is must
8) As already specified I want good phone to listen high quality music and so I want good phone for multimedia.
9) zte axon 7 plus, Alcatel idol 4s, all Sony xperia phones which are below 15000 etc.,.
10) some of the Sony xperia phones provides audio with hires I mean you can't get such audio quality in any other phones. There are some other phones which are HiFi compatible I mean they provide medium audio quality than others.

As I love to listen music I am searching for a multimedia phone which provide high quality audio playback. I want good phone with lowest price and so it may be manufactured 3 years back even I am ready to buy. Phone with 32 GB internal memory is also acceptable.

Sent from my Redmi Note 4X using Tapatalk

LG phones have dedicated DAC, but really at that budget, just buy any phone with 3.5mm jack. They have good enough output to drive most headphones. The software features like Dolby support are nice to have but I won't say they are deal breaker like other specs of phone, like SoC, RAM, future OS updates, etc. Just buy Redmi Note 7 Pro

Which headphone are you planning to use? If its anything under 5k, really you are fine with any phone. Read the audio quality section of this review: Xiaomi Redmi Note 7 review
I have no idea what those parameters are, but for 99% users, most phones have decent output. I have observed low volume output from some cheap phones, but that's it (that too was in a Oppo phone about 3 years ago, I'm sure even they have better hardware now). As @SaiyanGoku said, if his OP3 can drive an HD 598, you are just fine with any 15k phone (or your current one) + a good earphone/headphone.

If you are still adamant about it, increase budget & buy LG V30+. It goes for 25k, even lower on sales.

R

Ok I agree that redmi note 7 pro is more than enough for my daily needs except audio quality.

There is another device called external DAC which converts bits stream to high quality audio. Some of them are chord mojo, audilab mdac nano etc.,.

May I know which external DAC is best and affordable I mean below 1500/- to 2000.

Also up to now I have not seen such device and so can you suggest a link which tells how to use it.

If external DAC which is suitable for me costs above 5000/- then I will not buy it. Instead I will use my redmi note 7 pro and sound enhancement software like Dolby atmos, Dolby digital plus, viper etc.,.

I have tested a number of times the audio quality of music files by playing normally and by playing music files and at the same time running Dolby atmos, viper in background. The audio quality was good in running Dolby atmos in background.

Fiio BTR1k seems to have decent reviews, its an all in one bluetooth dac/amp that can be used in wired format as welll. costs around 3.8k..
Dont go for uBTR, it has very bad reviews.

rupeshforu3 said:
Ok I agree that redmi note 7 pro is more than enough for my daily needs except audio quality.

There is another device called external DAC which converts bits stream to high quality audio. Some of them are chord mojo, audilab mdac nano etc.,.

May I know which external DAC is best and affordable I mean below 1500/- to 2000.

Also up to now I have not seen such device and so can you suggest a link which tells how to use it.

If external DAC which is suitable for me costs above 5000/- then I will not buy it. Instead I will use my redmi note 7 pro and sound enhancement software like Dolby atmos, Dolby digital plus, viper etc.,.

I have tested a number of times the audio quality of music files by playing normally and by playing music files and at the same time running Dolby atmos, viper in background. The audio quality was good in running Dolby atmos in background.

Which headphone do you have? Just get a better one, usually the cheapest fix

R

Nerevarine said:
Fiio BTR1k seems to have decent reviews, its an all in one bluetooth dac/amp that can be used in wired format as welll. costs around 3.8k..
Dont go for uBTR, it has very bad reviews.

I have examined the specifications of fiio btr1k and it is nice but it is having Bluetooth feature.

I don't need Bluetooth feature and so is there any good DAC which connect to phone through USB, aux etc.,. As I don't need Bluetooth feature the cost may be reduced.

R

anupam_pb said:
Which headphone do you have? Just get a better one, usually the cheapest fix

Mi earphones.

Your mi earphones arent gonna improve with any dac or amp. Get proper audiophile earphones that can improve from dac amp..

In-Ear Monitors

rupeshforu3 said:
Mi earphones.

You need premium headphones, like those costing above 5000 INR (in general) to even get any significant benefit from DAC or ext amps. So buy a better earphone or a good headphone. No point otherwise. Buy Soundmagic E10C as suggested earlier, a good investment for the money. If you want a new phone as well, RN7P is great for you.

I have listened to some audiophile level headphones, those are great, but I can't justify spending that amount of money. I'm happy with under 2000 earphones & headphones w/o any DAC or ext amps. Also Dolby & other software amp features are good to have, but never a dealbreaker for me (3.5mm jack on phone is surely more important for me).

R

Hi there are two smart phones from huwai which provide good quality sound than other smartphones they're

1) honor play which has krion 960 processor and honor sound technology

2) honor 8x plus which has Dolby atmos immersive experience feature and Qualcomm snapdragon 660 processor.

Note that honor 8x comes in two versions one with snapdragon processor and other krion processor but only snapdragon version has Dolby atmos surround sound technology and the other doesn't.

The above two smartphones are within my budget and have nice features. In some aspects honor 8x is better than honor play because honor 8x has 5000 mah battery etc.,. In some aspects honor play is better than honor 8x because honor play has the latest krion 960 processor and it can deal with graphics very smartly.

One small issue I am going to face is that all the latest smartphones are more than 6 inch long which is not comfortable to me.

I would feel happy if there is any smartphone which is between 4.5 to 5 inch long and has features like the above stated.

Dude, you wont benefit from any dedicated dac amp with mi earphones, upgrade your earphones first then think about dedicated dac/amp.
If you want to simply upgrade phone, then there are better options.

rupeshforu3 said:
Hi there are two smart phones from huwai which provide good quality sound than other smartphones they're

1) honor play which has krion 960 processor and honor sound technology

2) honor 8x plus which has Dolby atmos immersive experience feature and Qualcomm snapdragon 660 processor.

Note that honor 8x comes in two versions one with snapdragon processor and other krion processor but only snapdragon version has Dolby atmos surround sound technology and the other doesn't.

The above two smartphones are within my budget and have nice features. In some aspects honor 8x is better than honor play because honor 8x has 5000 mah battery etc.,. In some aspects honor play is better than honor 8x because honor play has the latest krion 960 processor and it can deal with graphics very smartly.

One small issue I am going to face is that all the latest smartphones are more than 6 inch long which is not comfortable to me.

I would feel happy if there is any smartphone which is between 4.5 to 5 inch long and has features like the above stated.

Replace your earphones first + what @Nerevarine said.

R

OK I agree with your point of view but my explanation is " earphones cost from 100/- to 5000/- but smartphone costs from 10000/- to 50000/-. Once we brought any smartphone we can't throw it and buy another ".

We can buy a smartphone with DAC at the same price of a smartphone without DAC or amp.

In my view there is no reason of buying a smartphone which doesn't have DAC.

rupeshforu3 said:
OK I agree with your point of view but my explanation is " earphones cost from 100/- to 5000/- but smartphone costs from 10000/- to 50000/-. Once we brought any smartphone we can't throw it and buy another ".

We can buy a smartphone with DAC at the same price of a smartphone without DAC or amp.

In my view there is no reason of buying a smartphone which doesn't have DAC.

For under 5000 headphones you don't need a special DAC or anything. You need $100+ headphones as most people say & those might start at 7-10k in India. As goku said earlier, his OP3 w/o fancy DAC runs HD598 fine. Like it or not, I think you fall in the 99% of users who don't need a DAC, mainly because of money. Audiophile quality headphones are too expensive for normal people, something like Bose. My S8 w/o any fancy quad DAC like LG drives my Monoprice 8323 just fine (although I prefer the way it sounds when connected to my laptop).

IMO you are underestimating the difference in the quality of earphones between an under 500 one & a 1-2k one. The difference is significant. Buy a new good earphone first, then think about a new phone. Most likely your requirements would be met.

LG has the best phones for audiophiles, so maybe buy V30 for 25k if you really want a good DAC. Lack of compact phones nowadays is a real issue, but most people apparently want big phones, so not many options for people like you & me. Currently, the only upgrade for my S8 is S10e (no Pixel for me because of lack of 3.5mm jack & stock android). Another good option for you is LG G7 for under 30k (i think 27k on sales). It's not as wide as other 6" phones, so more comfortable for use.

Get an E10C, the difference would be significant upgrade. Even now, I consider E10c to be one of the most VFM purchases based on sound quality and price.

R

Hi just have a look at LG q7+tm. It is affordable and it is dust resistant and also it has DTS: X.

What is the meaning of DTS: X. Does this phone has DAC or amp.

I have also selected another model from lg ie., LG g6 which comes at the cost of 19500/-. This smartphone has quad DAC and also dust resistant etc.,.

Can you suggest which is better among lg q7+tm and lg g6.

First let me to buy a good smartphone and later I will buy e10c.

W

@Vyom has some extensive experience with LG phones.

rupeshforu3 said:
Hi just have a look at LG q7+tm. It is affordable and it is dust resistant and also it has DTS: X.

What is the meaning of DTS: X. Does this phone has DAC or amp.

I have also selected another model from lg ie., LG g6 which comes at the cost of 19500/-. This smartphone has quad DAC and also dust resistant etc.,.

Can you suggest which is better among lg q7+tm and lg g6.

First let me to buy a good smartphone and later I will buy e10c.

G7 has quad DAC, G6 doesn't have it in all markets, not sure if Indian version has it (Korean version has it). G7 is definitely better w/o a doubt.

DTS is just a software sound enhancer like Dolby or what viper does.

Changing your phone will not improve the sound quality of your earphones significantly. It will just sound a bit different due to different sound profiles & equalizer settings of different devices. Changing your earphone always gives the biggest improvement. As it has been said again & again, you need premium headphones (not earphones) to utilize quad DAC (headphones that cost over 5000 minimum).

rupeshforu3 said:
Hi just have a look at LG q7+tm.

Total waste of money. Dude, buying any phone with or without DAC/AMP would be pointless if you keep using bad earphones. A friend's crap skullcandy earphone broke and he bought E10c. Earlier he wasn't happy with sound on his Moto G4+ but now he binge watched Game of Thrones on it.

First try them out and if they don't feel better, get a DAC to use with current phone. Even that combination should cost below 5k.

I guess op is a victim of FUD. There are way better phones than that buddy. It is better to get an overall best phone than getting a mediocre phone with slightly better "percieved" amp/dac onboard. Imean that LG phone you linked doesnt even have the same ESS Sabre 9018 present in V30/G6. So it doesnt make sense to buy it for it's audio capabilities.
Just get a regular phone (ensure it has type c), RN7 Pro is a great choice. There is a rule of thumb in all audio forums for us budget sound enthusiasts. Spend 1/2 of your total cost of (speakers+headphones) on an amp dac. This means that you must have something to improve the sound on, you will barely notice the difference on a pair of mi earphones. Buy E10c. get a dac/amp later.

Well LG G6 does have a DAC for Indian variants.. and even if it's an old phone, now it's priced below Rs 20k.
So we can't rule out the phone simply due to it being old.
*www.amazon.in/LG-LGH870DS-G6-Black-FullVision/dp/B06ZYNCBY

R

Hi lg q series is an minimized version of series g.

Suppose lg g7 has been released and q7 has also been released. Q7 has all the features of g7.

Please have a close look at the specifications of lg q7+tm.

In the specifications page of lg q7+tm from lg official website they have specified clearly that the product consists of hifi quad DAC, DTS: x virtual surround sound.

I am the expecting the price of lg q7+tm to be 15000

rupeshforu3 said:
Hi lg q series is an minimized version of series g.

Suppose lg g7 has been released and q7 has also been released. Q7 has all the features of g7.

Please have a close look at the specifications of lg q7+tm.

In the specifications page of lg q7+tm from lg official website they have specified clearly that the product consists of hifi quad DAC, DTS: x virtual surround sound.

I am the expecting the price of lg q7+tm to be 15000

LG Q7 is shit, not worth 15k(ok for 10-11k). Samsung has better phones at 15k (M30, A30, A50), RN7P is far superior.

Considering you are not willing to understand what we are saying here, no point posting here. Waste of time for you & us.

R

anupam_pb said:
LG Q7 is shit, not worth 15k(ok for 10-11k). Samsung has better phones at 15k (M30, A30, A50), RN7P is far superior.

Considering you are not willing to understand what we are saying here, no point posting here. Waste of time for you & us.

Sorry for disgusting I am searching for good smartphone and up to now I have searched up to 60+ phones.

Yesterday I have listened some music files on redmi note 7 using mi earphones and audio quality was not good. Not even I got audio quality as good as from redmi note 4 pro which is my current phone. So I am not ready to buy redmi note 7.

W

Redmi Note 7 is far inferior to Redmi Note 7 Pro & you need at least E10C to make a good comparison.I don't understand why you don't just buy them,it only costs 1650( SoundMAGIC - E10C ) & you can even return them within 7 days if you still don't find them worth their price. May be you will even save much more money by finding out that using E10C with a cheap phone is still better than using mi earphone with a costlier/DAC phone.