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Does the Galaxy S10e support VoLTE on airtel?

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Extreme Gamer
Extreme Gamer Original post #1
Nov 15, 2019 at 9:23 PM
In the Kolkata circle. 2G voice is awful on airtel here.

I looked at airtel's compatibility list and it seemed...dated. Dunno about the Chinese brands but none of the latest models from the premium names seemed to be listed.

The Xperia XZ1 Compact has served me well so far but I may need to upgrade in a few months.
vidhubhushan
Nov 16, 2019 at 4:14 PM
regarding chinese brands, i am using it on 3 year old budget Redmi 4A.
Extreme Gamer
Nov 16, 2019 at 6:05 PM
That's the thing, I am not buying a Chinese brand phone.
vidhubhushan
Nov 16, 2019 at 6:14 PM
Try Nokia then - nice build and clean software
bssunilreddy
Nov 16, 2019 at 6:16 PM
In the Kolkata circle. 2G voice is awful on airtel here.

I looked at airtel's compatibility list and it seemed...dated. Dunno about the Chinese brands but none of the latest models from the premium names seemed to be listed.

The Xperia XZ1 Compact has served me well so far but I may need to upgrade in a few months.
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W
Nov 16, 2019 at 7:43 PM
Go with samsung,its overall user experience is much better than nokia. Any recent model 4g phone officially available in India from major brands almost always supports all 4g networks.
Extreme Gamer
Nov 16, 2019 at 9:11 PM
@bssunilreddy The nokia is a major downgrade from the XZ1 compact, while also being much, much bigger in size.

@whitestar_999 I am worried about VoLTE support, not 4G compatibility.
SaiyanGoku
Nov 16, 2019 at 9:16 PM
@whitestar_999 I am worried about VoLTE support, not 4G compatibility.
Won't VoLTE depend on the network you're connected with? AFAIK, it would need you to be on 4g and not drop to 3g/2g. Airtel isn't 100% 4g like Jio so you might get these drops at times.
Extreme Gamer
Nov 16, 2019 at 9:16 PM
Airtel has VoLTE in all of their circles
omega44-xt
Nov 16, 2019 at 9:35 PM
Airtel has VoLTE in all of their circles
I have US version S8 & my airtel 4G doesn't run VoLTE by default, switches to 2G while calling, not sure if there's a way to set it up.

For compact phone lovers, S10e is one of the rare small phone available.
W
Nov 17, 2019 at 12:08 AM
My redmi K20 isn't on airtel handset compatibility list but it runs volte just fine which is to be expected as note 7 pro is there on the list & if note 7 pro can run it then certainly K20 can also run it. Airtel does have volte now in all circles but it also runs 2g network(3g expected to be shutdown by 31st March next year) & not all areas can be expected to get 4g signal.
Extreme Gamer
Nov 17, 2019 at 10:54 AM
VoLTE support depends on the carrier explicitly permitting your device. There are no hardware limitations. The IMS framework is used to query VoLTE features, and IIRC the device has to pass its model code number, which can differ between countries, for access.

My XZ1 Compact also supports VoLTE but none of the TSPs have permitted this phone so I can't use VoLTE in India. It is stupid, but it is how it is.

I briefly tried looking up ways to spoof it, but I could not find anything concrete.
W
Nov 17, 2019 at 2:24 PM
VoLTE support depends on the carrier explicitly permitting your device. There are no hardware limitations. The IMS framework is used to query VoLTE features, and IIRC the device has to pass its model code number, which can differ between countries, for access.

My XZ1 Compact also supports VoLTE but none of the TSPs have permitted this phone so I can't use VoLTE in India. It is stupid, but it is how it is.

I briefly tried looking up ways to spoof it, but I could not find anything concrete.
If that's the case then I am very sure that airtel will allow samsung galaxy s10e(upon you calling their cc) assuming it doesn't get VoLTE automatically.
Extreme Gamer
Nov 17, 2019 at 4:34 PM
Hmm, then I will call them for my XZ1 Compact first because if they don't allow this phone then I doubt they will allow the S10e.

No point burning the money and regretting it later.

EDIT: Customer care registered a complaint and asked for 4 business days. Let's see what happens. If I get VoLTE on this phone, maybe I'll keep it for a few more years :-D
Extreme Gamer
Jan 8, 2020 at 1:11 PM
Welp, back to square one since I heard absolutely nothing from Airtel.
Extreme Gamer
Mar 8, 2020 at 12:12 AM
Ended up buying a Galaxy S20 on launch date (got a small discount from the dealer). Still setting it up. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to have VoLTE enabled on Airtel.

EDIT: This phone is awful. The UI is clunky and the size is non-trivial to handle.
W
Mar 8, 2020 at 1:24 AM
Ended up buying a Galaxy S20 on launch date (got a small discount from the dealer). Still setting it up. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to have VoLTE enabled on Airtel.
Check this thread:
*r2.community.samsung.com/t5/Galaxy-S/airtel-VoLTE-and-VoWiFi-not-working-on-Galaxy-S10-Lite/td-p/3420449/page/2

if they end up treating you like me... you would need to get a new sim and insert it in another model which is officially listed on their volte page and wait for volte to get active on that sim. once it is, it should work on your samsung phone.
omega44-xt
Mar 8, 2020 at 8:12 PM
Ended up buying a Galaxy S20 on launch date (got a small discount from the dealer). Still setting it up. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to have VoLTE enabled on Airtel.

EDIT: This phone is awful. The UI is clunky and the size is non-trivial to handle.
I'd say S20's size is "compact" by today's standards, S20+ & ultra are definitely too big.

One UI is actually good IMO, still slower than Oxygen OS & stock android for sure though. Maybe reduce animation duration to 0.5x from dev settings to see if that helps.
Extreme Gamer
Mar 19, 2020 at 12:08 AM
I miss a lot of functionality and usability from my old phone. The phone app on this one is almost a direct rip-off of the vastly inferior iOS phone app.

It was a two-step process to call someone previously, but now it's a three-step process. Whatsapp/Skype/Signal used to be integrated into the process as well, but now I have to manually open the contacts app to access that feature. Which makes it completely pointless to even have it. No longer can I call them directly using the phone app.

X1ZC power button doubled as a screenshot and switch-off menu. S20 delegates that to a swiping tab on the corner which is difficult to pull out depending on which app it is drawn over. Even there I can't take a quick full-screen screenshot without first expanding a square tool across the entire phone.

A lot of crufty apps cannot be disabled either, which is an extreme downgrade. For example Signal is my default SMS app, but I can't disable the messaging app. Very unfortunate.

WiFi calling and VoLTE are broken.

Battery life is poor even in power-saving modes.

One-handed operation is a mega pain in the bosom.
W
Mar 19, 2020 at 12:15 AM
And here I thought samsung higher end models are good. If even s10e is not good for overall user experience then is there any model even left at this price point other than apple & google pixel.
omega44-xt
Mar 19, 2020 at 8:36 AM
I miss a lot of functionality and usability from my old phone. The phone app on this one is almost a direct rip-off of the vastly inferior iOS phone app.

It was a two-step process to call someone previously, but now it's a three-step process. Whatsapp/Skype/Signal used to be integrated into the process as well, but now I have to manually open the contacts app to access that feature. Which makes it completely pointless to even have it. No longer can I call them directly using the phone app.

X1ZC power button doubled as a screenshot and switch-off menu. S20 delegates that to a swiping tab on the corner which is difficult to pull out depending on which app it is drawn over. Even there I can't take a quick full-screen screenshot without first expanding a square tool across the entire phone.

A lot of crufty apps cannot be disabled either, which is an extreme downgrade. For example Signal is my default SMS app, but I can't disable the messaging app. Very unfortunate.

WiFi calling and VoLTE are broken.

Battery life is poor even in power-saving modes.

One-handed operation is a mega pain in the bosom.
I never saw whatsapp integrated in my old Z3C, not sure what you were doing in your previous phone. I always used to call someone from whatsapp by opening the whatsapp app.

There's an option to swipe with palm to take screenshot or press volume down + power button to take screenshot. The square tool is meant only for taking screenshot of a part of the screen.

Lack of ability to disable a lot of default apps is a pain, but not as big of a pain as Xiaomi for sure. Still, Samsung should do better.

I have an option to enable VoLTE in my S8, still it doesn't work, pretty annoying for sure.

120Hz takes a big hit on battery life, moreover the compact S series always had above average battery life, not good one like many budget phones can even provide. I guess it should last a day with 4hrs or so of screen on time.

Lack of compact phones is a big problem for people like us. I plan to just change the battery of my S8, no phones worth upgrading to except for expensive ones or Apple.

I have a theory that Exynos phones degrade in battery life & performance faster than Snapdragon variants. I have an S835 S8, not Exynos one. It is working well, definitely runs slower than new OP phones & all if compared side by side.
SaiyanGoku
Mar 19, 2020 at 4:44 PM
I have a theory that Exynos phones degrade in battery life & performance faster than Snapdragon variants. I have an S835 S8, not Exynos one. It is working well, definitely runs slower than new OP phones & all if compared side by side.
Now, we have proof:
W
Mar 19, 2020 at 9:09 PM
Will check it later when I can, slow internet for now
Yes I understand,Andaman Nicobar like islands that too in India. Btw do islands in USA/EU get better connectivity or is it similar situation there also.
Extreme Gamer
Mar 19, 2020 at 9:57 PM
I never saw whatsapp integrated in my old Z3C, not sure what you were doing in your previous phone. I always used to call someone from whatsapp by opening the whatsapp app.

Dunno about the Z3C, but on the XZ1C:

Open the phone app -> type the contact name and press the portrait of the contact you want to call -> you get a dropdown list of all the apps you can use to call or message the contact. If you just press the contact's name, you directly call the contact.

On samsung you cannot do this directly on the phone app. You have to open the contacts app -> open the contact details -> select the app you want to invoke for call/messaging. On the phone app, if you type the contact name and press the name, it will put the number on the dialling screen, but not directly call them.

There's an option to swipe with palm to take screenshot or press volume down + power button to take screenshot. The square tool is meant only for taking screenshot of a part of the screen.

Swiping the palm is a two-handed operation, and so is volume down+ power button. Both are cumbersome processes. I know that the square tool is meant for a part of the screen. But it's actually easier to access one-handed. It significantly reduces the one-handedness of the phone.

Lack of ability to disable a lot of default apps is a pain, but not as big of a pain as Xiaomi for sure. Still, Samsung should do better.

On sony, the only app you can't disable is "What's New". Everything else is fair game. At that point of time I used to think that not being able to delete a lot of apps was offensive, but compared to Samsung's cruft this is saintly!

120Hz takes a big hit on battery life, moreover the compact S series always had above average battery life, not good one like many budget phones can even provide. I guess it should last a day with 4hrs or so of screen on time.

There is no compact S phone right now. Oh, and the phone heats up like a car's exterior on a hot day while charging or when any CPU-heavy app is being used. 120hz plays a surprisingly minor role in battery life BTW - barely 10-15% in my experience.

Lack of compact phones is a big problem for people like us. I plan to just change the battery of my S8, no phones worth upgrading to except for expensive ones or Apple.

Agreed. Wholeheartedly.

I have a theory that Exynos phones degrade in battery life & performance faster than Snapdragon variants. I have an S835 S8, not Exynos one. It is working well, definitely runs slower than new OP phones & all if compared side by side.

I don't know enough about this to comment.
omega44-xt
Mar 20, 2020 at 7:34 AM
Yes I understand,Andaman Nicobar like islands that too in India. Btw do islands in USA/EU get better connectivity or is it similar situation there also.
I'm sure they have optical fibre connectivity, unlike Andaman, so better internet situation. Although optical fibre is being laid from Chennai to Andaman, time will tell how it will be.
omega44-xt
Mar 20, 2020 at 7:47 AM
Dunno about the Z3C, but on the XZ1C:

Open the phone app -> type the contact name and press the portrait of the contact you want to call -> you get a dropdown list of all the apps you can use to call or message the contact. If you just press the contact's name, you directly call the contact.

On samsung you cannot do this directly on the phone app. You have to open the contacts app -> open the contact details -> select the app you want to invoke for call/messaging. On the phone app, if you type the contact name and press the name, it will put the number on the dialling screen, but not directly call them.



Swiping the palm is a two-handed operation, and so is volume down+ power button. Both are cumbersome processes. I know that the square tool is meant for a part of the screen. But it's actually easier to access one-handed. It significantly reduces the one-handedness of the phone.



On sony, the only app you can't disable is "What's New". Everything else is fair game. At that point of time I used to think that not being able to delete a lot of apps was offensive, but compared to Samsung's cruft this is saintly!



There is no compact S phone right now. Oh, and the phone heats up like a car's exterior on a hot day while charging or when any CPU-heavy app is being used. 120hz plays a surprisingly minor role in battery life BTW - barely 10-15% in my experience.



Agreed. Wholeheartedly.



I don't know enough about this to comment.
I never used the feature of calling using different apps. In samsung, you can swipe from left to right on a contact name to directly call it.

Phones are getting bigger, so sometimes using two-handed features is fine with me. One UI is better for one handed use than other UIs because they moved a lot of stuff towards the bottom of phone.

Samsung is taking inspiration from Xiaomi & even has ads or so called "recommendations". It is annoying for sure along with inability to disable an app. At least Samsung apps like music is good & doesn't have ads yet like Xiaomi.

My S8 gets pretty hot while charging & using internet via 4G or playing game on WiFi. Fast charging heats up the phone more. I doubt its overheating otherwise many people would have reported it.
Extreme Gamer
Mar 20, 2020 at 11:08 PM
I never used the feature of calling using different apps. In samsung, you can swipe from left to right on a contact name to directly call it.

Phones are getting bigger, so sometimes using two-handed features is fine with me. One UI is better for one handed use than other UIs because they moved a lot of stuff towards the bottom of phone.

Samsung is taking inspiration from Xiaomi & even has ads or so called "recommendations". It is annoying for sure along with inability to disable an app. At least Samsung apps like music is good & doesn't have ads yet like Xiaomi.

My S8 gets pretty hot while charging & using internet via 4G or playing game on WiFi. Fast charging heats up the phone more. I doubt its overheating otherwise many people would have reported it.

Well, I did and you can see the problem :<

About the moving-things-to-bottom, I don't really see what you mean. Some features should obviously work one-handed but don't. Other times, it's hard to reach the other end of the screen for one-handed operation. One UI is objectively worse IMHO.

Xiaomi probably depends on ads for some part of their revenue, like how Amazon sells an ad-filled kindle for less.

I don't know if it can be called overheating, but it does get uncomfortably hot compared to what I am used to. At least it gets hot enough that I can't leave it in my pocket.
omega44-xt
Mar 21, 2020 at 6:16 AM
Well, I did and you can see the problem :<

About the moving-things-to-bottom, I don't really see what you mean. Some features should obviously work one-handed but don't. Other times, it's hard to reach the other end of the screen for one-handed operation. One UI is objectively worse IMHO.

Xiaomi probably depends on ads for some part of their revenue, like how Amazon sells an ad-filled kindle for less.

I don't know if it can be called overheating, but it does get uncomfortably hot compared to what I am used to. At least it gets hot enough that I can't leave it in my pocket.
Like in Dialler app, different tabs like Keypad, Recents, Contacts are at bottom of the screen, unlike most other UIs, including stock, which has it at the top half instead. There are many other such places in the UI where One UI put stuff at easier to access place.

At least amazon has option to pay $15 to remove ads completely.

Unless you can get temp of back, its tough to judge. Also hottness is a subjective feeling. Moreover India is a hot country & we are approaching summer. My S8 was definitely cooler in US.