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DOTA - Warcraft 3: Frozen throne expansion map by Icefrog

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Sarath
Sarath Original post #1
May 2, 2011 at 10:34 AM
DoTA stands for Defense of the ancients its an online RPG with two teams playing against each others. Each team has 5 players. Here's a link to the screen shot as the file is too large for uploading
*upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/00/Dota_allstars_game.jpg

I dont want to go into the details but its surprising to see very few (no one) who plays DoTA here. If there is anyone there you can post your garena IDs or just talk about the latest map developments.

Game needed: Warcraft 3: Frozen throne

Custom maps: Developed by icefrog or simply called DOTA maps or DOTA

Latest maps can be downloaded here:
Official DotA Website

You need a copy of Warcraft 3:Frozen throne installed in your PC to play the game. Then you need to get the latest map from the above link and copy it to the custom games folder.

This game was shown in the demo video of Razer Switchblade (prototype)

DOTA warriors (players) on TDF:

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S
soloing #2
Feb 14, 2012 at 11:19 AM
Re: DoTA custom map for Warcraft 3: Frozen throne

Thanks so much for posting this, I also like other games ,such as Marvel: Avengers Alliance, Dragon Born, Pirate Storm and Gangs of Boomtown
Desmond
Desmond #3
Feb 14, 2012 at 12:14 PM
Re: DoTA custom map for Warcraft 3: Frozen throne

Its a little old topic I think. Dota's been around for years. But, I think we do need a dedicated Dota thread.
theserpent
Feb 14, 2012 at 12:19 PM
Re: DoTA custom map for Warcraft 3: Frozen throne

I am a noob :( in dota stopped playing it
Desmond
Desmond #5
Feb 14, 2012 at 12:25 PM
Re: DoTA custom map for Warcraft 3: Frozen throne

I am still a noob, but I enjoy dota a lot. I like playing agility heroes mainly. My favourite are Mage, Juggernaut and BS among others. What are your favorite heroes?

PS: I think the thread ought to be renamed simply as "The DotA Thread".
T
Feb 14, 2012 at 1:56 PM
Re: DoTA custom map for Warcraft 3: Frozen throne

Well, you guys can try Heroes of Newerth (it's free) or League of Legends (also free). I personally prefer LoL to HoN , it's much easier to get into and more forgiving if you make mistakes. Community is also much much much friendlier towards newbies.
Desmond
Desmond #7
Feb 14, 2012 at 2:20 PM
Re: DoTA custom map for Warcraft 3: Frozen throne

^^ I think the same is for Dota. It is not too hard, but you need to know all the skills and item recipes (at least the ones you need to use).

Not played HoN or LoL though.
aniket.cain
Feb 14, 2012 at 2:46 PM
Re: DoTA custom map for Warcraft 3: Frozen throne

I have played a lot of DotA when I was in college. Have no one to play with these days. Tried Garena for sometime, but it doesn't satisfy as much as a 5v5 LAN game in the hostel. ;)
However, this is one LAN game I enjoyed the most. More than CS, I'll say.
RaMpAgEr^GodZ
Feb 14, 2012 at 2:52 PM
Re: DoTA custom map for Warcraft 3: Frozen throne

Garena Id same as User Id RaMpAgEr^GodZ
Desmond
Desmond #10
Feb 14, 2012 at 2:53 PM
Re: DoTA custom map for Warcraft 3: Frozen throne

Its more intelligent than CS. On the contrary, I used to play CS when I was in college. Got into Dota when I was in final year.

And, of course, playing with your own peers is better than playing on Garena. No coordination.

PS: Waiting for dota2 invite. Not received yet. :(
RaMpAgEr^GodZ
Feb 14, 2012 at 2:57 PM
Re: DoTA custom map for Warcraft 3: Frozen throne

Dota is the Future Of indian Gaming!!
aniket.cain
Feb 14, 2012 at 3:00 PM
Re: DoTA custom map for Warcraft 3: Frozen throne

^^ Right. CS was fun for the 1st whole year. In 2nd year I shifted to DotA, and never looked back.

I too filled the form for Dota2 Beta. Never received any keys. Seems I shouldn't have been that honest while filling up the signup form. ;)

Btw, my garena id is 'hitnameever'. Playing on Garena is frustrating. People frequently get disconnected, or leave the game. You take your time to properly build your hero, and when the time comes to shine, people start quitting the game. So I stopped playing on Garena.
Desmond
Desmond #13
Feb 14, 2012 at 3:07 PM
Re: DoTA custom map for Warcraft 3: Frozen throne

^^ Right. CS was fun for the 1st whole year. In 2nd year I shifted to DotA, and never looked back.

I too filled the form for Dota2 Beta. Never received any keys. Seems I shouldn't have been that honest while filling up the signup form. ;)

Btw, my garena id is 'hitnameever'. Playing on Garena is frustrating. People frequently get disconnected, or leave the game. You take your time to properly build your hero, and when the time comes to shine, people start quitting the game. So I stopped playing on Garena.

Same ;)

I was too honest when I filled the form too. And, I agree, playing on Garena is not so smooth. But, for me it is better than nothing.

Please add me: Death_Metal27

I am at work, so I cannot add you all now.

BTW, what are your favourite heroes?
dashing.sujay
Feb 14, 2012 at 3:11 PM
Re: DoTA custom map for Warcraft 3: Frozen throne

^I was so blind in love of CS that never cared to learn how is it played. :|
pramudit
pramudit #15
Feb 14, 2012 at 5:01 PM
Re: DoTA custom map for Warcraft 3: Frozen throne

I think we can youbusse this thread to discuss fav hero and tricks....
My fav is pheonix and m a noob....
Desmond
Desmond #16
Feb 14, 2012 at 6:29 PM
Re: DoTA custom map for Warcraft 3: Frozen throne

When I started out, i started with Sniper, then Trax. Only used ranged heroes. Now I try melee agility heroes.

Never played Phoenix though.
N
Feb 14, 2012 at 6:36 PM
Re: DoTA custom map for Warcraft 3: Frozen throne

I quit dota 3 times. The last one lasted 4 months. Back to Dota since sunday.
Garena ID: sycorax666 - Level 29

If there are 5 people let me know we could form a clan or something.
patrick4
patrick4 #18
Feb 14, 2012 at 7:44 PM
Re: DoTA custom map for Warcraft 3: Frozen throne

i am kinda semi pro in dota.. been playing right from the begening version 6.2x or so. Been part of many clan games all over india but never anything substantial (mostly exit during the leauge stages itself)..

I stopped playing mainly due to the large number of immature players and kids on garena india rooms.. but once in a while i kick back a few beers and play with my buddies on lan..

PS: if any serious folks playing dota in bangalore, then lemme know.. i can get my buddies and we can play 5v5
nims11
nims11 #19
Feb 14, 2012 at 8:17 PM
Re: DoTA custom map for Warcraft 3: Frozen throne

i have started playing DOTA about a month ago and am totally loving it. I prefer ganking melee heroes like sand king and spiritbreaker.

yup, we need a DoTA thread.
Desmond
Desmond #20
Feb 15, 2012 at 9:55 AM
Re: DoTA custom map for Warcraft 3: Frozen throne

I say rename this thread to "The Dota Thread".

Can anyone suggest good inventory for Axe and why.
patrick4
patrick4 #21
Feb 15, 2012 at 2:54 PM
Re: DoTA custom map for Warcraft 3: Frozen throne

I say rename this thread to "The Dota Thread".

Can anyone suggest good inventory for Axe and why.

No such thing as a good inventory for any hero in Dota.. All the inventory is built based on the situation (lane control, farming, kills-deaths, opponent hero etc)..

Still for a starter axe, Phase boots, vanguard, Heart, scepter, bloodstone are all good items.. but like i said, it all depends on the situation.

If you are really intersted, you can visit get-dota.com forums.. you will find detailed guides for all heroes and replays of really good players there.. To get any good at dota, you will have to watch as many replays as you can and practice (with humans, NOT AI) endlessly.
fun2sh
fun2sh #22
Feb 16, 2012 at 12:42 PM
Re: DoTA custom map for Warcraft 3: Frozen throne

OMG Finally DOTA thread got bumped and ITS FULL ON LIVE. Nice.

I love dota a lot. Playing for 4-5yrs. My Garena ID is Fun2sh (LVL 35), Fun2shWEB (LVl 31).

So, guys what are you fav hero, strategy and what you like most about the game.

Lets all discuss it here
RaMpAgEr^GodZ
Feb 16, 2012 at 2:27 PM
Re: DoTA custom map for Warcraft 3: Frozen throne

Ne one interested in making active dota clan????
R
rajan1311 #24
Feb 16, 2012 at 3:13 PM
Re: DoTA custom map for Warcraft 3: Frozen throne

me dota player... garena ID : rajan1311
aniket.cain
Feb 16, 2012 at 5:04 PM
Re: DoTA custom map for Warcraft 3: Frozen throne

I say rename this thread to "The Dota Thread".

Can anyone suggest good inventory for Axe and why.

When I used to play (which was like, 3 yrs ago), the usual inventory for Axe used to be Vanguard, BoT, HoD, HoT, Blademail and Blink Dagger. You could get a Radiance or Assault too if you are farming well enough (and which is not much of a problem with Axe). There is no point getting damage dealing items for Axe as his Counter Helix does the job, and his attack speed is too slow. He should be made the tank of the team. Blink in, put Berserker's Call, and watch your team-mates shred the enemies to pieces. :D

However, this is an old build, and there must be better items and better builds available for him now.
Sarath
Sarath #26
Feb 16, 2012 at 5:38 PM
re: DoTA - (Icefrog | Warcraft 3: Frozen throne expansion)

Axe:
Phase boots
A Vanguard or two
Blink dagger
Blade mail
HoT / Assault

If there are too many INT heroes then make HoD after Vanguard :)

He is just a tank, in both early and late game, so just concentrate on defense.
aniket.cain
Feb 16, 2012 at 5:47 PM
re: DoTA - (Icefrog | Warcraft 3: Frozen throne expansion)

+1 for Phase Boots for Axe. However, BoT will also help in ganking/pushing more, as Axe is excellent at these two things. :)
Sarath
Sarath #28
Feb 16, 2012 at 6:34 PM
re: DoTA - (Icefrog | Warcraft 3: Frozen throne expansion)

Phase are easy to make. Also give a much early advantage of speed

500 + 450 + 450 = Phase
500 + 2200 = BoT

You can see it's more cost effective to get phase which can be made within 10mins with Vanguard. Getting BoT might delay Vang which is catastrophic. Cause axe is a solid tank early game while late game depends on his invent.
aniket.cain
Feb 16, 2012 at 6:53 PM
re: DoTA - (Icefrog | Warcraft 3: Frozen throne expansion)

Yes. Phase boots are easier to make, compared to BoT. Sometimes I would get the phase boots early game, and will later sell it to make BoT, if the game requires a lot of pushing in the lanes, like if you lose your towers early. Farming is pretty easy with Axe, so spending this much is not a problem. I am just saying that you could get a BoT if you feel the need.
pramudit
pramudit #30
Feb 16, 2012 at 9:50 PM
re: DoTA - (Icefrog | Warcraft 3: Frozen throne expansion)

i dont use garena, its kinda heavy.... you guys also try gameranger, its a very good program to play various games including dota... however there are no dedicated server but you can host your games and your room will be full in a min...
Desmond
Desmond #31
Feb 17, 2012 at 1:12 AM
re: DoTA - (Icefrog | Warcraft 3: Frozen throne expansion)

Thanks all. I have been concentrating more on offense while playing axe so used to only make damage items and did not conc on defense.
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nims11
nims11 #32
Feb 17, 2012 at 1:51 AM
re: DoTA - (Icefrog | Warcraft 3: Frozen throne expansion)

advice guys:
i prefer offensive ganking/tank heroes like sand king and the spiritbreaker. Which other heroes should i try?
Desmond
Desmond #33
Feb 17, 2012 at 2:16 AM
re: DoTA - (Icefrog | Warcraft 3: Frozen throne expansion)

I hear Dragon Knight tanks pretty well too.
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PS: Why they hell is Posted via Mobile Device coming on my posts?
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dashing.sujay
Feb 17, 2012 at 2:43 AM
re: DoTA - (Icefrog | Warcraft 3: Frozen throne expansion)

^Which browser and platform are you using?
skeletor
skeletor #35
Feb 17, 2012 at 6:02 AM
re: DoTA - (Icefrog | Warcraft 3: Frozen throne expansion)

I've got DoTA 2 beta.
skeletor
skeletor #37
Feb 17, 2012 at 10:44 AM
re: DoTA - (Icefrog | Warcraft 3: Frozen throne expansion)

^^ have it since more than a month. In Steam. :p
T
Feb 17, 2012 at 10:57 AM
re: DoTA - (Icefrog | Warcraft 3: Frozen throne expansion)

^^ have it since more than a month. In Steam. :p


Could we please have a quick review of the game? I know it's still in beta ,but I'd like to see what they've added.
skeletor
skeletor #39
Feb 17, 2012 at 11:05 AM
re: DoTA - (Icefrog | Warcraft 3: Frozen throne expansion)

Could we please have a quick review of the game? I know it's still in beta ,but I'd like to see what they've added.
Social stuff but that comes due to steam integration. I mean, we don't need to use stuff like Game Ranger now. With Steam, everything is "in-house"...

Most heroes are missing. It is a work in progress and updates arrive every week generally.

Graphics have been improved, but that is obvious. :p
T
Feb 17, 2012 at 11:12 AM
re: DoTA - (Icefrog | Warcraft 3: Frozen throne expansion)

Social stuff but that comes due to steam integration. I mean, we don't need to use stuff like Game Ranger now. With Steam, everything is "in-house"...

Most heroes are missing. It is a work in progress and updates arrive every week generally.

Graphics have been improved, but that is obvious. :p

There's one thing I need to know. In Heroes of Newerth , the rate at which your character moves on the screen was impacted by the lag. At 250-300 ms , your hero would hop all over the place (almost warping , and so would the other players) and it was difficult to keep track of him. (no it was not a graphical issue , I had no issues when playing on practice mode since it was a local game at 0ms ping)

But in League of Legends , your hero (and the other players) move smoothly on the map despite 200-300 ms ping (of course, there's a short delay between clicks thanks to lag).

I'd like to know if DOTA2's movement system is heavily ping based like HoN or instead relies on delayed inputs like LoL ?
skeletor
skeletor #41
Feb 17, 2012 at 11:27 AM
re: DoTA - (Icefrog | Warcraft 3: Frozen throne expansion)

^^ Better than HoN but not like LoL. Work in progress, it will improve
T
Feb 17, 2012 at 11:33 AM
re: DoTA - (Icefrog | Warcraft 3: Frozen throne expansion)

^^ Better than HoN but not like LoL. Work in progress, it will improve

Better than HoN ? So I assume there is still a small amount of warping , oh well..as long as it's manageable. Thanks for the info.
patrick4
patrick4 #43
Feb 17, 2012 at 11:49 AM
re: DoTA - (Icefrog | Warcraft 3: Frozen throne expansion)

advice guys:
i prefer offensive ganking/tank heroes like sand king and the spiritbreaker. Which other heroes should i try?

ganking/ tank hero are the ones who initiates battle during a 5v5 fight.. earthshaker, centaur, tidehunter, magnataur, treant are all good hero.

blink in and nuke :twisted:
fun2sh
fun2sh #44
Feb 17, 2012 at 11:57 AM
re: DoTA - (Icefrog | Warcraft 3: Frozen throne expansion)

@ico How the hell u got dota 2 beta. :( i didnt get. Wat was ur tactics? :p Please let me know if i can get an invite. i will kill for it. :p

Regarding my fav hero: Its the awesome Storm. He can r*pe any hero in game. I love playing him. getting kils early levels is too easy. and late game i he a very good carry. Most players rate him the best Dota hero. :p
Desmond
Desmond #45
Feb 17, 2012 at 12:18 PM
re: DoTA - (Icefrog | Warcraft 3: Frozen throne expansion)

I filled out the stupid Dota2 survey more than 2 months ago. Still did not receive invite :mad:
doomgiver
doomgiver #46
Feb 17, 2012 at 12:42 PM
re: DoTA - (Icefrog | Warcraft 3: Frozen throne expansion)

When I started out, i started with Sniper, then Trax. Only used ranged heroes. Now I try melee agility heroes.
Never played Phoenix though.
me too :)

I say rename this thread to "The Dota Thread".

Can anyone suggest good inventory for Axe and why.
When I used to play (which was like, 3 yrs ago), the usual inventory for Axe used to be Vanguard, BoT, HoD, HoT, Blademail and Blink Dagger. You could get a Radiance or Assault too if you are farming well enough (and which is not much of a problem with Axe). There is no point getting damage dealing items for Axe as his Counter Helix does the job, and his attack speed is too slow. He should be made the tank of the team. Blink in, put Berserker's Call, and watch your team-mates shred the enemies to pieces. :D

However, this is an old build, and there must be better items and better builds available for him now.
Axe:
Phase boots
A Vanguard or two
Blink dagger
Blade mail
HoT / Assault

If there are too many INT heroes then make HoD after Vanguard :)

He is just a tank, in both early and late game, so just concentrate on defense.
starting of game : (unlock the helix first)get poor man's shield and healing potions.
ask a nuke/stunner to come wiht you.
grab a weak hero(MAKE SURE THERE ARE ONLY MELEE CREEPS NEARBY) and start whacking like crazy.
the creeps will attack you, and the weak hero will attack too(prolly, seeing as you are getting attacked)
holefully, your counter helix will activate a few times(dont be scared if you lose over 80% of health, axe is a monster) and get all their health down.
ask your guy to nuke/stun and finish off.

next, get another poor man and keep doing this(or a vanguard, if you are feeling tough :) )
HoD is useless on axe, imo
get radiance and shiva's guard next (when you get shiva's spam your first armor ability everywhere)

after that, get an item according to your role.
tank : armor/health
carry : high damage ones (almost never carry, as you are best at crowd control)
pusher : AoE something, or wwhich allows you to kill lots of creeps quickly

I hear Dragon Knight tanks pretty well too.
that damn hero is nigh unkillable with the right items :(

ganking/ tank hero are the ones who initiates battle during a 5v5 fight.. earthshaker, centaur, tidehunter, magnataur, treant are all good hero.

blink in and nuke :twisted:
magnataur got screwed (imo)
fun2sh
fun2sh #47
Feb 17, 2012 at 12:42 PM
re: DoTA - (Icefrog | Warcraft 3: Frozen throne expansion)

I filled out the stupid Dota2 survey more than 2 months ago. Still did not receive invite :mad:
I filled it the moment it was issued. still didnt get. I think they check ur Steam activity. As i hav never played any games on steam, so i think i didnt get a beta request.

I only joined steam for DOTA 2. :p
Desmond
Desmond #48
Feb 17, 2012 at 12:57 PM
re: DoTA - (Icefrog | Warcraft 3: Frozen throne expansion)

I used to play TF2 a lot. Still do.

Also, tell me one thing, the Quelling blade non-hero damage apply to Axe's Counter Helix?
Sarath
Sarath #49
Feb 17, 2012 at 1:03 PM
re: DoTA - (Icefrog | Warcraft 3: Frozen throne expansion)

ICO: How did you get a beta key? :|

Damn still playing on garena with leavers and laggers who down the whole game. zzz!
RaMpAgEr^GodZ
Feb 17, 2012 at 2:05 PM
re: DoTA - (Icefrog | Warcraft 3: Frozen throne expansion)

I got dota 2 beta key just after the International tourney.
The game is Just lIke Hon Or u can say better Than Hon But Dota Will surVive Any day against It.
ITs Like Dota>Dota2>HOn>Lol.
Better Prepare of the Delhi Tourney If u guys R comming any Way No Indian team will WIn as they R inviting International teams ALso :) Best Of Luck.
fun2sh
fun2sh #51
Feb 17, 2012 at 2:06 PM
re: DoTA - (Icefrog | Warcraft 3: Frozen throne expansion)

ICO: How did you get a beta key? :|

Damn still playing on garena with leavers and laggers who down the whole game. zzz!

some times it make me think to suicide cause of that

Sarath wats ur garena ID?
RaMpAgEr^GodZ
Feb 17, 2012 at 2:09 PM
re: DoTA - (Icefrog | Warcraft 3: Frozen throne expansion)

I've got DoTA 2 beta.

some times it make me think to suicide cause of that

Sarath wats ur garena ID?

'Lol'
Y dont try Rgc But u Need Good Experience 2 play Ther :)
*www.thinkdigit.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif
N
Feb 17, 2012 at 3:09 PM
re: DoTA - (Icefrog | Warcraft 3: Frozen throne expansion)

Getting a Dota 2 key is like getting a golden egg. Heck they chose randomly. I've submitted from 3 different ID's and still waiting for an invite :p

There are bazzillion strategy websites for dota. Why dont you guys tell how you started off dota and with which hero and how it went about.

I was introduced to dota by a fellow member in chip forums. I started off with Lich and Luna. I couldnt tank properly so never took STR.

Later on I mastered
Seeker
Lich
Enchantress
Bala
Riki
Bara
Huskar
Lanaya
Naix
Abba
Atropos
Pit lord
luna
troll
mort

Thats all I can remember now. The one hero I have never played is Pudge. For some reason I am not able to hook properly or use miranas arrow properly. Read lots of tutorials no use.
Desmond
Desmond #54
Feb 17, 2012 at 6:42 PM
re: DoTA - (Icefrog | Warcraft 3: Frozen throne expansion)

Guys please tell...for axe:
Quelling blade+Counter Helix
Does it work?
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WTF...I am not posting from a goddamned mobile device.
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patrick4
patrick4 #55
Feb 17, 2012 at 6:49 PM
re: DoTA - (Icefrog | Warcraft 3: Frozen throne expansion)

Guys please tell...for axe:
Quelling blade+Counter Helix
Does it work?
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no
skeletor
skeletor #56
Feb 17, 2012 at 6:59 PM
re: DoTA - (Icefrog | Warcraft 3: Frozen throne expansion)

I'm a DoTA noob btw.

There should be a "Discuss DoTA 2" group on Steam. Find it and join that group. Hang out in the chat for a while, be polite and some good soul will give you an invite.

My friend did that. Got an invite for himself, then one more and idiot gave to me, someone who doesn't even play DoTA anymore. :mrgreen:
aniket.cain
Feb 17, 2012 at 7:04 PM
re: DoTA - (Icefrog | Warcraft 3: Frozen throne expansion)

I'm a DoTA noob btw.

There should be a "Discuss DoTA 2" group on Steam. Find it and join that group. Hang out in the chat for a while, be polite and some good soul will give you an invite.

My friend did that. Got an invite for himself, then one more and idiot gave to me, someone who doesn't even play DoTA anymore. :mrgreen:

Thanks a lot for the info. Will try my luck tonight. :D
fun2sh
fun2sh #58
Feb 17, 2012 at 7:24 PM
re: DoTA - (Icefrog | Warcraft 3: Frozen throne expansion)

me too will try ma luck there

Thanks a lot for the info. Will try my luck tonight. :D

'Lol'
Y dont try Rgc But u Need Good Experience 2 play Ther :)
*www.thinkdigit.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif

ya u know i really forgot abt RGC. i made ma account wen RGC was very new and there were very very less players. after that i never went there. will see tonight wat kind of players it has.
RaMpAgEr^GodZ
Feb 18, 2012 at 2:42 PM
re: DoTA - (Icefrog | Warcraft 3: Frozen throne expansion)

I started dota with sniper N sucked ultra hard in the game. But i started owning games with the hero "troll warlord" (old troll with 30sec rampage N miss skill) which was nurfed in new map by icefrog any way now my fav hero is anti-mage, juggernaught.
Desmond
Desmond #60
Feb 18, 2012 at 3:51 PM
re: DoTA - (Icefrog | Warcraft 3: Frozen throne expansion)

I started dota with sniper N sucked ultra hard in the game. But i started owning games with the hero "troll warlord" (old troll with 30sec rampage N miss skill) which was nurfed in new map by icefrog any way now my fav hero is anti-mage, juggernaught.

Same :thumbs:

With anti-mage, all enemy intell heroes will run to their momies. Juggernaut is one of the best carry heroes I know.
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nims11
nims11 #61
Feb 18, 2012 at 3:54 PM
re: DoTA - (Icefrog | Warcraft 3: Frozen throne expansion)

how to tackle huskar+troll warlord? When together, they are pissing me off!!
Sarath
Sarath #62
Feb 18, 2012 at 10:11 PM
re: DoTA - (Icefrog | Warcraft 3: Frozen throne expansion)

how to tackle huskar+troll warlord? When together, they are pissing me off!!

It's not possible to answer that ques. It's Dota, there are a million posibilities

For starters get stunners.
fun2sh
fun2sh #63
Feb 20, 2012 at 12:44 AM
re: DoTA - (Icefrog | Warcraft 3: Frozen throne expansion)

^^ blade mail for huskar always :p use it while he coming with ulti n he will die. :p
doomgiver
doomgiver #64
Feb 20, 2012 at 8:01 AM
re: DoTA - (Icefrog | Warcraft 3: Frozen throne expansion)

how to tackle huskar+troll warlord? When together, they are pissing me off!!

anti-mage/silencer
stunners
nukers
some fat tanks
(nessaj, slithreen, tiny, kunnka, all qualify for the 3 posts)

there, 5 heroes.
but god save you if there is a abbadon on the other side.
R
rajan1311 #65
Feb 20, 2012 at 8:25 AM
re: DoTA - (Icefrog | Warcraft 3: Frozen throne expansion)

how to tackle huskar+troll warlord? When together, they are pissing me off!!

dont think you can generalize.. but sticking together always works :p
nims11
nims11 #66
Feb 21, 2012 at 2:42 AM
re: DoTA - (Icefrog | Warcraft 3: Frozen throne expansion)

^^ blade mail for huskar always :p use it while he coming with ulti n he will die. :p

thanks a lot! :D
blade mail helped me pwning huskar (I was playing with Bara), but since the troll warlord is always with him, i also die after pwning huskar after his ulti. :-x

anti-mage/silencer
stunners
nukers
some fat tanks
(nessaj, slithreen, tiny, kunnka, all qualify for the 3 posts)

there, 5 heroes.
but god save you if there is a abbadon on the other side.

thanks, will try them!
lordirecto
Feb 21, 2012 at 3:47 AM
re: DoTA - (Icefrog | Warcraft 3: Frozen throne expansion)

Wow. I am really surprised that people at TDF even know about a game called DotA!!
I started playing 4 years ago, first on Gameranger, then on Garena. And when HoN got released, I quit DotA as I liked HoN's gfx. But I am back in Dota 2 after I got my invite!

@ico: Add me on steam, maybe we can play together sometime. Steam Community :: ID :: Tamizh Pian
Desmond
Desmond #68
Feb 21, 2012 at 10:16 AM
re: DoTA - (Icefrog | Warcraft 3: Frozen throne expansion)

I think Anitmage can pwn Huskarr pretty well, you'll need someone to distract the troll first.
doomgiver
doomgiver #69
Feb 21, 2012 at 11:13 AM
re: DoTA - (Icefrog | Warcraft 3: Frozen throne expansion)

I think Anitmage can pwn Huskarr pretty well, you'll need someone to distract the troll first.

huskar will raep antimage
huskar is str, so, almost no mana
he has got a passive, which increases damage and atkspd with health loss
almost all his abilities cost health, not mana
HE HAS GOT BURNING SPEARS!!!

all magina can do is run like a girl (long ponytail ftw)
Desmond
Desmond #70
Feb 21, 2012 at 11:15 AM
re: DoTA - (Icefrog | Warcraft 3: Frozen throne expansion)

huskar will raep antimage
huskar is str, so, almost no mana
he has got a passive, which increases damage and atkspd with health loss
almost all his abilities cost health, not mana
HE HAS GOT BURNING SPEARS!!!

all magina can do is run like a girl (long ponytail ftw)

Whoops....forgot. I thought huskar was intel. Never played huskar.
fun2sh
fun2sh #71
Feb 23, 2012 at 11:46 AM
re: DoTA - (Icefrog | Warcraft 3: Frozen throne expansion)

Omg omg omg i won dota 2 beta key. Ahahahaha
skeletor
skeletor #72
Feb 23, 2012 at 12:53 PM
re: DoTA - (Icefrog | Warcraft 3: Frozen throne expansion)

Omg omg omg i won dota 2 beta key. Ahahahaha
Add me on Steam: gbullet500
Desmond
Desmond #73
Feb 23, 2012 at 1:10 PM
re: DoTA - (Icefrog | Warcraft 3: Frozen throne expansion)

Omg omg omg i won dota 2 beta key. Ahahahaha

But how?

*i3.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/004/006/y-u-no-guy.jpg
doomgiver
doomgiver #74
Feb 23, 2012 at 1:29 PM
re: DoTA - (Icefrog | Warcraft 3: Frozen throne expansion)

Whoops....forgot. I thought huskar was intel. Never played huskar.

i once got a first blood on phantom lancer with huskar.
i can totally dominate my lane with huskar, unless there are 2 ranged heros in front. even 2 str heros are no big deal, infact, i welcome 2 melee heros, as i level up faster, and kill them quicker :)
Desmond
Desmond #75
Feb 23, 2012 at 3:02 PM
re: DoTA - (Icefrog | Warcraft 3: Frozen throne expansion)

Jeez....gotta try Huskar.
fun2sh
fun2sh #76
Feb 23, 2012 at 4:44 PM
re: DoTA - (Icefrog | Warcraft 3: Frozen throne expansion)

i once got a first blood on phantom lancer with huskar.
i can totally dominate my lane with huskar, unless there are 2 ranged heros in front. even 2 str heros are no big deal, infact, i welcome 2 melee heros, as i level up faster, and kill them quicker :)

come tonight. u take huskar. i will take lina. lets see who kils whom at lvl 1 :p
sid25290
sid25290 #77
Feb 23, 2012 at 9:34 PM
Re: DoTA - (Icefrog | Warcraft 3: Frozen throne expansion)

come tonight. u take huskar. i will take lina. lets see who kils whom at lvl 1 :p

Ahhhhhhh fresh meat :-D
Finally a dota thread
And by the way
Sup fun2sh
Hope you remember me
Amit_axe :-D
Love this game
And i find huskar very irritating
but always remember
its mostly the over aggresive hero who give first blood
I mean i can easily pawn huskar with most of the heroes
And my fav hero is shadow fiend, pudge, potm and furion
sachin99
sachin99 #78
Feb 24, 2012 at 12:45 AM
Re: DoTA - (Icefrog | Warcraft 3: Frozen throne expansion)


Just visit playdota.com and post a request in the thread called Dota 2 beta key draw..they are giving 180 keys almost everyday..Dota 2 is really awesome.:)
Sarath
Sarath #79
Feb 24, 2012 at 1:18 AM
Re: DoTA - (Icefrog | Warcraft 3: Frozen throne expansion)

come tonight. u take huskar. i will take lina. lets see who kils whom at lvl 1 :p

Dota is not meant for 1v1 :p

Lina could win easily but husky can win too in good hands
pramudit
pramudit #80
Feb 24, 2012 at 2:25 AM
Re: DoTA - (Icefrog | Warcraft 3: Frozen throne expansion)

which program or server do you guys use to play dota...??? i currently use gameranger....
Sarath
Sarath #81
Feb 24, 2012 at 9:08 AM
Garena
Desmond
Desmond #82
Feb 24, 2012 at 10:20 AM
Re: DoTA - (Icefrog | Warcraft 3: Frozen throne expansion)

Just visit playdota.com and post a request in the thread called Dota 2 beta key draw..they are giving 180 keys almost everyday..Dota 2 is really awesome.:)

Joined....hoping for the best :Fingerx:


Me too.

which program or server do you guys use to play dota...??? i currently use gameranger....

Is it good? How does it compare to Garena?
pramudit
pramudit #83
Feb 24, 2012 at 11:27 AM
Re: DoTA - (Icefrog | Warcraft 3: Frozen throne expansion)

garena=internet server + personal server
gameranger= all personal rooms+ easy to use(game stars automatically when host launch game)

@sarath can you teach me how to play dota after 26march...???

garena=internet server + personal server
gameranger= all personal rooms+ easy to use(game stars automatically when host launch game)

@sarath can you teach me how to play dota after 26march...???
fun2sh
fun2sh #84
Feb 24, 2012 at 12:13 PM
Re: DoTA - (Icefrog | Warcraft 3: Frozen throne expansion)

Dota is not meant for 1v1 :p

Lina could win easily but husky can win too in good hands

LOL i didnt not mean 1v1. i meaant 5v5 only
Desmond
Desmond #85
Feb 24, 2012 at 12:30 PM
Re: DoTA - (Icefrog | Warcraft 3: Frozen throne expansion)

Can anyone suggest inventory for Trax? I usually build Vanguard and Lothar's Edge, but I need something for attack speed. Which is better : Only hyperstone or Assault Cuirass? Also suggest any other good items.
patrick4
patrick4 #86
Feb 24, 2012 at 12:34 PM
Re: DoTA - (Icefrog | Warcraft 3: Frozen throne expansion)

^^ treads, lothat, sny, buriza, butterfly, lifesteal.. dont bother with hP or defence items, go pure dmg and use lothar to escape out of gank situation.

its very important that you farm a good inventory early in the game
nims11
nims11 #87
Feb 24, 2012 at 3:44 PM
Re: DoTA - (Icefrog | Warcraft 3: Frozen throne expansion)

i started with garena and everybody is kicking me out of their servers because i am a lvl 1. :(
any tips?
Sarath
Sarath #88
Feb 24, 2012 at 4:51 PM
Re: DoTA - (Icefrog | Warcraft 3: Frozen throne expansion)

@sarath can you teach me how to play dota after 26march...???

It takes a long time to learn. Just keep playing on AI maps and familirise yourself with all the heroes etc


LOL i didnt not mean 1v1. i meaant 5v5 only

Ok


I think we can have a TDF member 5v5 match sometime.\

What say?

Do we have enough members?
patrick4
patrick4 #89
Feb 24, 2012 at 5:41 PM
Re: DoTA - (Icefrog | Warcraft 3: Frozen throne expansion)

@nims join room 8, 9, 10 etc where many new players start off..

Get a gold membership, you will get exp faster

I think we can have a TDF member 5v5 match sometime.\

What say?

Do we have enough members?

I am game..
Sarath
Sarath #90
Feb 24, 2012 at 5:46 PM
Re: DoTA - (Icefrog | Warcraft 3: Frozen throne expansion)

I will add list of interested members to the first post. Let me know. I will update regularly.

Adding patrick for now
Desmond
Desmond #91
Feb 24, 2012 at 5:48 PM
Re: DoTA - (Icefrog | Warcraft 3: Frozen throne expansion)

Lets make sure everyone is on Garena, then we meet. How about tonight?

I am interested. Garena ID in my signature.
Sarath
Sarath #92
Feb 24, 2012 at 5:53 PM
tonight not sure, coz we don't have enough people. :|
doomgiver
doomgiver #93
Feb 24, 2012 at 6:55 PM
come tonight. u take huskar. i will take lina. lets see who kils whom at lvl 1 :p
im pretty sure lina cant kill before lvl 6.

Dota is not meant for 1v1 :p

Lina could win easily but husky can win too in good hands
LOL i didnt not mean 1v1. i meaant 5v5 only

if lina is in my lane, i can cut her off easy, stop her from farming/levelling.
but if her teammate stuns me at a bad time (me used over half health for spears, and getting stunned) then i dont have a chance.

it all depends on the team, yaar.

i once almost-carried with keeper of light, can you believe that?
i had to, as there were all int heros on our side, with ES as the ony str (but we had puck and ice maiden, as soon as thier scepters were made, it was pwnage :)


Can anyone suggest inventory for Trax? I usually build Vanguard and Lothar's Edge, but I need something for attack speed. Which is better : Only hyperstone or Assault Cuirass? Also suggest any other good items.
vanguard sucks.
get butterfly and maybe bkb/cuirass and definitely either mkb or buriza

^^ treads, lothat, sny, buriza, butterfly, lifesteal.. dont bother with hP or defence items, go pure dmg and use lothar to escape out of gank situation.

its very important that you farm a good inventory early in the game
sny is useless, the cold arrow will override the sny effect everytime
and lifesteal too, both are useless
fun2sh
fun2sh #94
Feb 24, 2012 at 7:07 PM
im pretty sure lina cant kill before lvl 6.


if lina is in my lane, i can cut her off easy, stop her from farming/levelling.
but if her teammate stuns me at a bad time (me used over half health for spears, and getting stunned) then i dont have a chance.

it all depends on the team, yaar.

i once almost-carried with keeper of light, can you believe that?
i had to, as there were all int heros on our side, with ES as the ony str (but we had puck and ice maiden, as soon as thier scepters were made, it was pwnage :)



vanguard sucks.
get butterfly and maybe bkb/cuirass and definitely either mkb or buriza


sny is useless, the cold arrow will override the sny effect everytime
and lifesteal too, both are useless

i will pawn u with lina in between 1 to 3 lvls. :p Also, now sny ORB Effect has been removed and it will be good for drow. but i prefer manta alwasy. Its good to counter stuns. also, BRO never underestimate the power of life steal. :p

I will add list of interested members to the first post. Let me know. I will update regularly.

Adding patrick for now

Hey i am all in for tonight/ this weekends. My Garena ID is fun2shweb
Sarath
Sarath #95
Feb 24, 2012 at 7:19 PM
We have 5 players, we need 5 more. Or atleast one more for 3v3 without laggers :)
Desmond
Desmond #96
Feb 24, 2012 at 7:40 PM
Can anyone suggest good inventory for Huskar? I am trying him out.
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fun2sh
fun2sh #97
Feb 24, 2012 at 7:45 PM
Can anyone suggest good inventory for Huskar? I am trying him out.
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Husky invent depend on ur enemies. if too many ints then u need hood, other wise vanguards. Generally its good to make armlet early game and helm of dominator. later u can go for MKB, or Heart, or Aghanim depending upon situation
Sarath
Sarath #98
Feb 24, 2012 at 7:52 PM
All you have to watch out with huskar are for stunners.

Make MKB for that.

Generally, I make

PT + Bracer early
Mekasm + Vanguard
Assault + Helm

Armlet is a good idea. I just don't know how to use it.


----------------



Come on. One more player and we can atleast do 3v3
fun2sh
fun2sh #99
Feb 24, 2012 at 7:56 PM
All you have to watch out with huskar are for stunners.

Make MKB for that.

Generally, I make

PT + Bracer early
Mekasm + Vanguard
Assault + Helm

Armlet is a good idea. I just don't know how to use it.


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Come on. One more player and we can atleast do 3v3

Man armlet (if u are able to get it within 15 mins) with huskar = MASS RAPE n PP. lol
sid25290
sid25290 #100
Feb 24, 2012 at 9:50 PM
Count me in too for a game
Garena id=amit_axe
pramudit
pramudit #101
Feb 24, 2012 at 10:28 PM
I wanna play too.... But no my 2g will make me ghost.... :(
Will you guys play tomorrow too??? I can arrange 3g till tomorrow...
Sarath
Sarath #102
Feb 24, 2012 at 11:27 PM
Count me in too for a game
Garena id=amit_axe
Added. Hope to see you on DOTA

I wanna play too.... But no my 2g will make me ghost.... :(
Will you guys play tomorrow too??? I can arrange 3g till tomorrow...
3G lags. 2G is well, nothing,,, lets see. No one is playing yet.

All add each other from the list before proceeding
RaMpAgEr^GodZ
Feb 24, 2012 at 11:34 PM
My Name Is not rampager^GodZ Its Alok"AzE'Kumar.
Desmond
Desmond #104
Feb 24, 2012 at 11:59 PM
Whoops!!

I don't know if it matters, but my Garena id is death_metal27, i.e. in lower case.
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pramudit
pramudit #105
Feb 25, 2012 at 12:07 AM
i play using using 3g only.... ping is about 150, cs work fine with no lag... Dota doesnt even have shooting so it should be fine.....
Desmond
Desmond #106
Feb 25, 2012 at 12:53 AM
i play using using 3g only.... ping is about 150, cs work fine with no lag... Dota doesnt even have shooting so it should be fine.....

But there is a lag between when you click and when the action actually takes place.
pramudit
pramudit #107
Feb 25, 2012 at 1:22 AM
But there is a lag between when you click and when the action actually takes place.
Posted via Mobile Device

never felt that on servers.... it appears that action was almost instant... however when friend host, sometime lag is there.....
Sarath
Sarath #108
Feb 25, 2012 at 1:41 AM
Hmm...lets see then. So how many players do we have now? :?
nims11
nims11 #109
Feb 25, 2012 at 2:05 AM
add me garena id = nims11
Sarath
Sarath #110
Feb 25, 2012 at 2:42 AM
Ok I will add and make all corrections tomorrow
sachin99
sachin99 #111
Feb 25, 2012 at 8:43 AM
Also add me; garena id=san_crazy_art
doomgiver
doomgiver #112
Feb 25, 2012 at 7:11 PM
i will pawn u with lina in between 1 to 3 lvls. :p Also, now sny ORB Effect has been removed and it will be good for drow. but i prefer manta alwasy. Its good to counter stuns. also, BRO never underestimate the power of life steal. :p

buddy, there is NO way an int hero can get FB against huskar, that too at lvl 1, lol.

try your frozen arrows with life steal, and see which efect dominates :/
fun2sh
fun2sh #113
Feb 25, 2012 at 8:05 PM
buddy, there is NO way an int hero can get FB against huskar, that too at lvl 1, lol.

try your frozen arrows with life steal, and see which efect dominates :/

dude u come i will show u. ahahaha. hav taken so many first bloods. and regardng life steal with frost dont stack;.its true. but thats the proness. A good player can use both life steal n frost in sequence.
Sarath
Sarath #114
Feb 25, 2012 at 8:23 PM
Anyone wants to play tonight sign up and fireup garena now :)
Desmond
Desmond #115
Feb 25, 2012 at 10:10 PM
Online since afternoon, waiting for you guys. Also, only Amit_axe happens to be online all day.
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sid25290
sid25290 #116
Feb 25, 2012 at 10:24 PM
Yeah was online all morning long
Owned all games
And all noob hosts pped
Seriously, what's the use of farming?
Thats why i don't play carry anymore :-D
Pick carry only in known games
fun2sh
fun2sh #117
Feb 26, 2012 at 5:09 PM
aaah wen to play? decide a time so all can be there
Sarath
Sarath #118
Feb 26, 2012 at 5:23 PM
Lets play from 7pm onwards. I will post the Room we can all get into. We can then chat in garena room itself.

Add me :))

DarkLord_71
pramudit
pramudit #119
Feb 26, 2012 at 8:38 PM
Any chance of playing tonite....??? Will be sending request to all players.....
I am a noob in dota so please be gud with me....

And ya which map version will you play...? The latest stable..??
Desmond
Desmond #120
Feb 27, 2012 at 10:44 AM
You guys going to add me or what?
Posted via Mobile Device

Sarath, please add a link to the latest map in the first post.

I think it'd be preferable if you guys post your gameplay demos here too.
RaMpAgEr^GodZ
Feb 27, 2012 at 1:29 PM
Guys My name Is Alok'AzE'Kumar


Garena Id Is RaMpAgEr^GodZ

Plz correct It at the front page
N
Feb 27, 2012 at 2:02 PM
Im in. Let me know the date and time and I will be there.

Garena ID : sycorax666
Real Name : Santhosh
patrick4
patrick4 #123
Feb 27, 2012 at 3:50 PM
did you guys have the session over the weekend??

Please post the room details, map version and time for the game..

My id is n00bi3
Desmond
Desmond #124
Feb 27, 2012 at 7:13 PM
Guys My name Is Alok'AzE'Kumar


Garena Id Is RaMpAgEr^GodZ

Plz correct It at the front page

Buddy, your name is the TDF name and id is Garena id.

In this case, both is same.
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RaMpAgEr^GodZ
Feb 28, 2012 at 10:50 PM
Things U need 2 Know 2 take Ur dota gameplay 2 the Next lvl :
Many players have a general understanding of the game, what heroes are countering who, what heroes are best at solo laning, and who can jungle; or in more simple words, what you can do to change the outcome of the game. This article goes one step further, and describes the abnormalities that are coded into the map; very small abnormalities that can have a huge impact on the game if you know how to take advantage of them, thus this article is directed towards the mid-skilled players.

Everyone has an understanding of the basics of the map, we have a sentinel base, a scourge base, a Roshan Area, two jungles (the big ones) and two forests (the small ones). Everyone know that we have three kinds of creeps: player allied (Treants, Ghouls etcetera), neutral creeps as well as ancients creeps (including Roshan too). What this section is about is how the overall map is different, many knows that Roshan is an abnormality which gives an advantage to the scourge side, but not many people know that the mid creeps are favouring the sentinel side or that you can triple pull in the sentinel jungle.


Map

Mid lane, and its relations to the rune spots and ganks.

To the solo mid hero, rune-control is very important and it is not difficult to see that the two sides are unsymmetrical.
We can see that the distance from the towers offers scourge a lot of advantage, and although they have a bit longer to the top rune, the sentinel hero has to go through a curve, meaning that the distance will be almost the same; meaning that the scourge has a distance advantage in a possible rune-race.

Furthermore, the mid lane is usually ganked a lot, as it is in the middle of the map (hence the name), this is where the sentinel lane has its powers. While as the scourge side can be easily ganked from both sides, a gank on the sentinel mid is usually a lot more difficult. The way to the mid lane from bot is usually heavily warded and can be seen as impenetrable, while as the way from the top lane is guarded by a curve that gives the sentinel mid a huge sight advantage at day. This sight advantage is even more enhanced by the fact that while scourge only has one pile of trees to juke in, the sentinel has two.
Roshan Zone

Probably the difference which has the most impact on the game, the Roshan zone is positioned on the scourge side of the map, and you can activate the scourge secret shop from the area. Being placed on the scourge side of the map, near the bot lane, means that scourge has access to the Roshan Zone through three towers (mid tier one, bot tier one and bot tier two), while sentinel only have from one (mid tier one tower). This means, that scourge is only in need of one ward, while as sentinel is in need of two wards to be able to see any gank attempt (granting that neither teams has lost any of the important towers).

This difference gives the scourge team a huge advantage, as even after a won team-fight, the sentinel team has to be careful, as a (buyback-) teleporting scourge team can easily backstab them.


Tower positions, and their immediate surroundings


There is two factors that plays a role here: The environment near the towers and the distance between the towers. Some specific details surrounding the mid towers has already been covered, so will be skipping those. There is one more main factor though, which is the scourge level one top tower and the sentinel bot level one tower.
These are known as the safest places early game (outside of your base) but there are some obvious reasons. At the scourge tower, we have a intricate network above the tower, that allows you to run around in a circle with a couple of hiding spots connected; one of the best places to escape from a single hero. Besides this, the scourge side got a couple of hiding spots throughout the patch of trees below the tower, allowing a greater flexibility when choosing the hide-out.




In comparison, the sentinel tower does not offer the top patch of trees to juke to, but do offer a more extensive network of paths below the tower, allowing you to escape a ganking squad, or at least delay them until help arrives.


In addition to the environment, the two teams has a difference in distance between the towers which is due to the enlargement of the scourge base (referring to the picture relating to the section "Mid lane, and its relations to the rune spots and ganks"). This puts a greater pressure on the sentinel team as possible teleport support is now farther away, as well as the decreased distance between the towers allows for a greater chance for the scourge creeps to be below the towers attack range, making pushing a bit harder.

In particular, the tier two mid towers has an intricate difference too, as the positioning of the scourge tower is off, resulting in the ability to gank toward the scourge tower from both the forest and jungle, while you can only gank toward the sentinel from the jungle.

Creeps

This section is including all the creep-relating differences in the map, including neutrals, the behaviour of creeps on lane, and the specific differences between the Ghouls and Treants.
Ghouls and Treants
Although these two units are alike in almost every case, there is one small difference; Treants have a greater base than the ghouls, due to the greater unit size they have. This in combination with the Treants coming from the lower left corner results in Ghouls being able to 'hide' behind the Treants, making them a lot harder to hit.
Pulling creeps
The majority of the DotA community know that both teams can pull one main camp. The scourge are then able to pull a second camp diagonally (is usable by the sentinel horizontally too) while as the sentinel are able to double, and even triple, pull with the use of tangoes or quelling blade. This does put the sentinel jungler in a dangerous position however, as the second creep camp is located fairly near the scourge tier one bot tower.
Jungling

Although the jungling aspect is close to extinct at the moment, it is still worth mentioning, as the two jungles differentiate greatly.


The creep-camps in the scourge jungle are positioned with a lot of distance among them, but in such a way that you are able to circle among them all, so not to waste valuable time; and in the later stage of the game, this allows you to end up at your own base, making it a safe jungle if pressured.


In comparison, the sentinel jungle are 'divided' in two, meaning that you can easily circle among the three main camps without actually moving, but as the game progresses, your jungle farm will decrease due to increased walking time.
What is probably the most known feature of the sentinel jungle however, is the 'magic bush' which are able to block two camps and thus nullifying any jungling hero.

But while the jungles are important, we must not neglect the forests, containing some of the most powerful units in the game. Here we can yet again see a difference between the sentinel and the scourge side, as while the sentinel ancient camp are facing toward the middle of the map, and are located in a rather non-travelled part; the scourge ancient camp is facing the scourge secret shop, with easy access to this as well as the Roshan Zone; making it a lot more difficult for sentinel to farm on scourge ancients than scourge on sentinel ancients if the game are even, but easier for sentinel to farm on sentinel ancients than scourge on scourge ancients if they are losing map-advantage.
Note: Other camps are pull-able with accurate timing and specific creeps, but as this is never done, this will not be mentioned here.

Mid lane in particular
Mid lane, as opposed to top and bot, has a slight difference in creep arrival, as a result of pre-discussed enlargement of scourge base. This means that the sentinel ranged creep is standing up-hill, and a ranged hero will be able to actively use the Fog of War, thus having a huge advantage in the first minute of the lane as the enemy do not have the ability to predict when the attacks are landing.

The picture to the right is an extreme situation, which almost never occurs with the first creep-spawn; usually the ranged creep are standing just on top of the ramp, allowing only heroes with approximately 600 range to attack from the actual Fog of War. Usually this is countered by creep-blocking, but while the sentinel towers are placed rather well for a creep-block, the scourge tier two mid tower is awkwardly placed, so that a perfect creep-block actually will allow a creep to avoid the block all together, by taking a different route.

Creeps vs Buildings
What buildings the creeps are going to attack when entering the base, is yet another small difference that can have a huge impact on the game. The following information is gotten by watching the creeps entering the base unobstructed and with no heroes on the map, and might differ in a game due to small differences.

Sentinel Creeps Scourge Creeps
Top All creeps are attacking melee rax All creeps are attacking melee rax.
Mid Melee creeps are attacking melee rax; ranged creeps are attacking ranged rax. There is a possibility of melee creeps attacking right Ziggurat; ranged creeps attacking left Ziggurat. Melee creeps are attacking the ranged rax; ranged creeps are attacking Moon Well.
Bottom Melee creeps are attacking the ranged rax; all ranged creeps are attacking the Ziggurat. There is a possibility of melee creeps attacking Ziggurat. All creeps are attacking the ranged rax.




Looking at the table above, one can easily see some differences, as the sentinel creeps has a tendency to attack ziggurats rather than the rax. This means that scourge can be more comfortable leaving their base open for creeps to enter, as it would take a greater amount of time for them to destroy the important melee rax.
This is somewhat countered though, as the scourge creeps has a disadvantage in mid, almost neglecting the melee rax.
For the 'lolz'
This last section is about those informations that really do not have any game-play impact on the game, but is nevertheless just fun to know.

- The World Tree (compared to The Frozen Throne) are closer to fountain, which makes it easier for you to pull enemy creeps to fountain and a relatively quicker heal path.

- Sent is more prone to being Glaive-raped by Moonrider since the building placements are closer to each other in the base.

- You are able to access the scourge base through the tree-line at the utter most right and top, while the sentinel base are closed with a cliff here.

- Mid scourge can access secret shop with a tango, giving you an opportunity for an OP Ring of Health / Void Stone purchase early game while saving a lot of time! How often does mid heroes go Ring of Health / Void Stone you ask? Doesn’t matter…
Source:GosuGamers DotA | Feature: The Static Differences

History Of the Game
Part :1 GosuGamers DotA | Thread: A History of Dota: Part 1
Part :2 GosuGamers DotA | Thread: A History of Dota: Part 2
Part :3 GosuGamers DotA | Thread: A History of Dota: Part 3
Part :4 GosuGamers DotA | Thread: A History of Dota: Part 4
Part :5 GosuGamers DotA | Thread: A History of Dota: Part 5
Part :6 GosuGamers DotA | Thread: A History of Dota: Part 6
Part :7 to Be continued!!
nims11
nims11 #126
Feb 28, 2012 at 11:40 PM
^^thanks a lot !! helpful for a beginner like me. :)

btw, how to counter syllabear? his spiritbear is a PITA!! :(
doomgiver
doomgiver #127
Feb 29, 2012 at 1:28 AM
his bear cant attack if it is too far from his master.
try to lead it into your towers
skeletor
skeletor #128
Feb 29, 2012 at 10:00 AM
if anyone of you gets DoTA 2 - join this group. Steam Community :: Group :: Think Digit Gamerz
RaMpAgEr^GodZ
Feb 29, 2012 at 2:23 PM
^^thanks a lot !! helpful for a beginner like me. :)

btw, how to counter syllabear? his spiritbear is a PITA!! :(

IT can be countered Easly Just pick slayer, get gost specter(then make it to ethral blade) Kill Him early as He cannot do Much early so U can Kill Him any way
fun2sh
fun2sh #130
Mar 5, 2012 at 2:51 PM
thread dead? wat happened to TDF dota game?
Desmond
Desmond #131
Mar 5, 2012 at 2:53 PM
No one seems interested. I spent all day on Garena, waiting for people to turn up, but no one came. Then I gave up. I have more important stuff to do, like planking on the terrace.
pramudit
pramudit #132
Mar 5, 2012 at 2:59 PM
you guys can play tonight? i also wanna play....
Sarath
Sarath #133
Mar 5, 2012 at 3:29 PM
Well, if anyone is playing just mention which room you are in here.

BTW we got a problem since not everyone is on the same level. Some are at even 1 and goes upto lvl42 :shock:

It wont be a fair game. Especially with all the cussing in game ;)

BTW will play tonight. I am in
Desmond
Desmond #134
Mar 5, 2012 at 3:34 PM
Ok...see y'all tonight. How does 8:00 PM sound?
fun2sh
fun2sh #135
Mar 5, 2012 at 3:57 PM
i may come around 10pm
doomgiver
doomgiver #136
Mar 5, 2012 at 5:02 PM
yeah, lets go!!

also, i have the :cough: version of warcraft 3, and i think its 5-6 months old
which version do u guys have, and how do i update?
Desmond
Desmond #137
Mar 5, 2012 at 5:07 PM
1.26 is the latest I think, normal patching works AFAIK. Also get the 6.73c Dota map.
pramudit
pramudit #138
Mar 5, 2012 at 7:07 PM
1.26a....? everyone should have same patch....

my game ranger account number- 1619956
Desmond
Desmond #139
Mar 5, 2012 at 7:13 PM
I think everyone should get on IRC before the game begins. Can act like a lobby for us TDF gamers.
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Sarath
Sarath #140
Mar 5, 2012 at 7:26 PM
I don't know what IRC is :confused:
pramudit
pramudit #141
Mar 5, 2012 at 7:33 PM
playing time...? 11pm....? or 12am...? what say...? everyone should come online at the same time...
Sarath
Sarath #142
Mar 5, 2012 at 7:52 PM
Every room is stuffed, Can't get into any. I'm signing off for the day. :|

Happy gaming :)
Desmond
Desmond #143
Mar 5, 2012 at 9:05 PM
I mean the Digit IRC Here
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doomgiver
doomgiver #144
Mar 5, 2012 at 9:58 PM
get on irc, i wanna PLAY!!
pramudit
pramudit #145
Mar 5, 2012 at 11:31 PM
how about gameranger...? we can have our tdf room.... :wink:
we will not have any problem like room full....
Desmond
Desmond #146
Mar 6, 2012 at 12:40 AM
how about gameranger...? we can have our tdf room.... :wink:
we will not have any problem like room full....

I will try to make an account on Game ranger.

Also, can dota (warcraft) be played on Xfire? I have an Xfire account.
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pramudit
pramudit #147
Mar 6, 2012 at 12:55 AM
dont know.... never used it....
doomgiver
doomgiver #148
Mar 10, 2012 at 10:26 PM
AAARGH!!!
GARENA PLUS (BETA), Y U NO WORK?!?!??

someone help pls.

windows 7 32 bit here.
visual c++ library runtime error :(
it happens when i try to login :(
RaMpAgEr^GodZ
Mar 12, 2012 at 4:07 PM
AAARGH!!!
GARENA PLUS (BETA), Y U NO WORK?!?!??

someone help pls.

windows 7 32 bit here.
visual c++ library runtime error :(
it happens when i try to login :(

Download: Microsoft Visual C++ 2010 Redistributable Package (x86) - Microsoft Download Center - Download Details download This N Try again
doomgiver
doomgiver #150
Mar 12, 2012 at 8:17 PM
done that, installed the sp1 one too.
lurked for 3 hours on the forums and other related sites.

gave up garena plus

booted up garena classic
worked just fine
joined india room
set .exe path (not installed, its a copy paste job, *ahem* )
useing 1.26a, v6.74
i cant see any servers (but my garena name comes in the name field auto,)
i cant see any server, even after tunneling and what not
Desmond
Desmond #151
Mar 12, 2012 at 10:19 PM
How much is your ping?
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doomgiver
doomgiver #152
Mar 13, 2012 at 5:33 PM
varies from 60 - 202 ms, depending on whom i tunnel
Desmond
Desmond #153
Mar 14, 2012 at 2:10 AM
Is it behind a firewall?
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doomgiver
doomgiver #154
Mar 14, 2012 at 4:39 PM
disabled windows firewall, dont use anything else.
i just cant figure out the problem.

ran it in admin mode, in compatiblity with XP sp2, it doenst work.
Sarath
Sarath #155
Mar 14, 2012 at 7:04 PM
Damn need to get off Dota, 8 hours everday is getting on me now.

@fun2sh: why went afk last game?
pramudit
pramudit #156
Mar 14, 2012 at 8:07 PM
did any one received my friend request....? i cant see anyone in my list.... :|
Sarath
Sarath #157
Mar 14, 2012 at 9:03 PM
firing up garena now using Maddoc_71 as my ID
thetechfreak
Mar 20, 2012 at 1:59 PM
Just received my copy of DOTA 2 in my steam profile :D

and there is DOTA 2 test as well.
doomgiver
doomgiver #160
Mar 20, 2012 at 7:09 PM
aaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

send me a copyyyyyyyy!
thetechfreak
Mar 20, 2012 at 7:15 PM
aaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

send me a copyyyyyyyy!

Many got today. coolpcguy, me & Faun got. It was auto added to library. so cant send :oops:
doomgiver
doomgiver #162
Mar 20, 2012 at 9:26 PM
afaik, you guys must have got 2 gift copies to give, no?
coz thats what the majority of ppl got
aniket.cain
Mar 20, 2012 at 10:34 PM
I got the mail from Steam too. Regarding Dota 2. Will go to home and then check. Still in office. :|
Sarath
Sarath #164
Mar 20, 2012 at 10:42 PM
I just created an account in Steam and added Dota 2 to my wishlist. What more am I to do?
axes2t2
axes2t2 #165
Mar 20, 2012 at 10:46 PM
If any of you can then please send one to me.
thetechfreak
Mar 21, 2012 at 6:55 AM
I just created an account in Steam and added Dota 2 to my wishlist. What more am I to do?

Open the games page on store and complete the survey :wink:
doomgiver
doomgiver #168
Mar 21, 2012 at 9:24 AM
wtf? i got dota 2 too.... just noticed right now.
it sure wasnt there yesterday.
T
Mar 21, 2012 at 10:10 AM
Huh , when did Dota 2 come on my games list? Good surprise.

EDIT : Just got this in the mailbox

*i.imgur.com/OzhH3.jpg

Well, I'll probably get n00b raped when I play it. I'm primarily a League of Legends player and I know DOTA is extremely hardcore. Would be nice if one of you could walk me through the game.
fun2sh
fun2sh #170
Mar 21, 2012 at 11:42 AM
Damn need to get off Dota, 8 hours everday is getting on me now.

@fun2sh: why went afk last game?

LOL. i slept while waiting for game to start. thats the problem of playing late night on bed. :twisted::twisted::twisted::twisted:
RaMpAgEr^GodZ
Mar 21, 2012 at 1:15 PM
Ne one interested in creating a dota clan??
Ne one going for delhi event on 6 7 8th march??
Worlds best dota team Na'Vi coming 2 :)*www.thinkdigit.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif
thetechfreak
Mar 21, 2012 at 2:09 PM
@Tachyon1986 LOL. I too just got email. The thing is I got the game auto added to my Steam profile MANY MANY hours before the email reached me. Looks like they were very busy sending mails :)
Desmond
Desmond #173
Mar 21, 2012 at 3:30 PM
Woohoo!!! Even I got Dota2. XD

Faith in God restored :p

Anyone know how big it is? Will install once I get home.

@Tachyon, even I didn't get the mail yet.
T
Mar 21, 2012 at 6:25 PM
Woohoo!!! Even I got Dota2. XD

Faith in God restored :p

Anyone know how big it is? Will install once I get home.

@Tachyon, even I didn't get the mail yet.

Fairly big, 1.9 GB to download and 3.2 GB to install I guess.
Desmond
Desmond #175
Mar 21, 2012 at 6:34 PM
Hmmm...not too big. Will take a couple of days though on my 256kbps connection (Goddamned FUP :mad:)
aniket.cain
Mar 21, 2012 at 8:15 PM
I played one game of Dota2 last night. There are pretty nifty improvements this time. For e.g., buying an item has got a huge improvement. Now you can directly buy an item, without getting all the components one by one. Clicking on a shop also 'suggests' some items for your hero.
And obv, the new animations and graphics are cool. Though the new interface was a bit confusing at first. Also, now the 4 'powers' are by default mapped to Q, W, E and R. Hope there is an option to change that.
RaMpAgEr^GodZ
Mar 21, 2012 at 10:53 PM
Woohoo!!! Even I got Dota2. XD

Faith in God restored :p

Anyone know how big it is? Will install once I get home.

@Tachyon, even I didn't get the mail yet.

Boring game If u like dota for gameplay N speed of game then U will miss a lot of thing. It dissapoints a lot.
Desmond
Desmond #178
Mar 21, 2012 at 11:08 PM
Boring game If u like dota for gameplay N speed of game then U will miss a lot of thing. It dissapoints a lot.

Cut it some slack bro, its still in Beta. Why not keep suggesting them to increase the speed?
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RaMpAgEr^GodZ
Mar 22, 2012 at 3:15 PM
Cut it some slack bro, its still in Beta. Why not keep suggesting them to increase the speed?
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If they do Increase The game speed THe The cool videos of dota 2 Wont be easy 2 make N the ganks will be not be visible properly.
Desmond
Desmond #180
Mar 22, 2012 at 3:22 PM
They could add an option of adjusting game speed, as in Warcraft 3.
lordirecto
lordirecto #181
Mar 22, 2012 at 4:04 PM
I used to play DotA. Then I jumped to HoN in Open Beta. Now I am playing Dota 2 in closed Beta!
Dota rocks!!
T
Mar 23, 2012 at 9:59 AM
Played a few co-op bot games on DOTA 2 yesterday. Nice graphics , and fortunately they do host servers in South-East Asia, Hong Kong and China (you can choose the region). Good news for us Indians , no lag at all :)
RaMpAgEr^GodZ
Mar 27, 2012 at 4:05 PM
dota 2 all the way for U ppl
Desmond
Desmond #184
Mar 27, 2012 at 4:09 PM
Started playing dota2 and I am pretty impressed with the graphics. Like there is motion blur as Juggernaut does the Blade Fury, the towers collapse as they are destroyed or the ancients explode on destruction, etc.

Gameplay is consistent with normal Dota and doesn't feel different (but then consistency is Valve's strong suite). Some heroes now have better looks, but some look completely idiotic, giving no hint about their corresponding Dota Allstars identity. (Will tell about these later)

Shopping is now pretty simple. Instead of all the shops in the base, you now have only one shop with different categories. You can also shop from anywhere on the map, thanks to a dedicated shop button. So, you don't have to change view to the base if you want to buy something when you are elsewhere on the map. The circles of power are gone, so the items you buy anywhere but the base is stored instead in your stash, which you can retrieve whenever you return to the base. Also, if you want to make an item using a recipe, for example, say Yasha, when you click on Yasha, a tree structure shows up showing the items required. Here, you can directly buy the items required by right-clicking on the ingredients one by one (you still need to go to your base to collect it, unless you buy a courier). You can choose to build items the old fashioned way as well.

The bots AI in DOTA2 Bot Coop mode is crazy. Early game they will be in their own lanes, but mid to end game they will always travel together, no matter where they go and gank whoever comes their way. The bots deny pretty good though.
T
Mar 27, 2012 at 4:44 PM
Started playing dota2 and I am pretty impressed with the graphics. Like there is motion blur as Juggernaut does the Blade Fury, the towers collapse as they are destroyed or the ancients explode on destruction, etc.

Gameplay is consistent with normal Dota and doesn't feel different (but then consistency is Valve's strong suite). Some heroes now have better looks, but some look completely idiotic, giving no hint about their corresponding Dota Allstars identity. (Will tell about these later)

Shopping is now pretty simple. Instead of all the shops in the base, you now have only one shop with different categories. You can also shop from anywhere on the map, thanks to a dedicated shop button. So, you don't have to change view to the base if you want to buy something when you are elsewhere on the map. The circles of power are gone, so the items you buy anywhere but the base is stored instead in your stash, which you can retrieve whenever you return to the base. Also, if you want to make an item using a recipe, for example, say Yasha, when you click on Yasha, a tree structure shows up showing the items required. Here, you can directly buy the items required by right-clicking on the ingredients one by one (you still need to go to your base to collect it, unless you buy a courier). You can choose to build items the old fashioned way as well.

The bots AI in DOTA2 Bot Coop mode is crazy. Early game they will be in their own lanes, but mid to end game they will always travel together, no matter where they go and gank whoever comes their way. The bots deny pretty good though.

Yes , the bots gank very well. Usually the gank starts with the mid bot going MIA. Still getting used to DOTA 2 , as I'm primarily a League of Legends player . I alternate between the 2 games now , DOTA 2's punishing difficulty is quite alluring (yet to try a normal PVP game though , at least until I can pwn bots)
RaMpAgEr^GodZ
Mar 28, 2012 at 1:49 PM
Giving Out dota2 key ne one want ?
*www.imageurlhost.com/images/g65yj34wym2jj0u1goyf.jpg
thetechfreak
Mar 28, 2012 at 2:00 PM
You cannot gift it. Its added to your library. Only games in Inventory can be gifted.
RaMpAgEr^GodZ
Mar 28, 2012 at 2:08 PM
You cannot gift it. Its added to your library. Only games in Inventory can be gifted.

The keys r for ppl who dont have dota2 *www.thinkdigit.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_mad.gif
T
Mar 28, 2012 at 2:10 PM
You cannot gift it. Its added to your library. Only games in Inventory can be gifted.

It looks like you didn't have a proper look at the image he posted. It clearly says "You have extra copies of DOTA 2 to give away" .
Sarath
Sarath #190
Mar 28, 2012 at 5:20 PM
GImme one pls
axes2t2
axes2t2 #191
Mar 28, 2012 at 5:26 PM
Give me one.
Sarath
Sarath #193
Mar 28, 2012 at 7:12 PM
Maddoc_71

Steam account :|

@DeSmOnD dAvId: :)
S
Mar 28, 2012 at 11:11 PM
Hi man,

I was looking for a dota2 key for a long time now..
RaMpAgEr^GodZ
Mar 29, 2012 at 11:25 AM
keys oVER :(
nEXT TIME THE GUYS Who didnt get the keys
Desmond
Desmond #197
Mar 29, 2012 at 12:39 PM
From my Dota2 game yesterday. I was Anti-Mage. Not so bad now, eh?
*i.imgur.com/jicvY.jpg
T
Mar 29, 2012 at 2:06 PM
Quite good for a bot game :doublethumb:

I usually play "Pusher" characters , specifically Shadow Shaman. Any tips for him ?
Desmond
Desmond #199
Mar 29, 2012 at 2:12 PM
Don't underestimate the bots. Dota2 has unforgiving AI difficulty. However, won because of good teamwork.

Never tried Shadow Shaman, will try someday.
Desmond
Desmond #201
Apr 15, 2012 at 10:38 AM
Got an extra Dota2 copy in my inventory today. Anyone wants?
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Desmond
Desmond #205
Apr 15, 2012 at 10:58 PM
Gimme your steam id. I have one more copy, already gave nims11.

I just logged into steam and saw the notification that I had two extra copies in the inventory.
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PS: Or you can send me a friend request, my steam profile URL in my signature.
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Sarath
Sarath #206
Apr 16, 2012 at 1:54 AM
K will do so when I have access to a PC. Thanks :)

Also I want you to take full responsibility of the fate of my exams next week :D
Desmond
Desmond #207
Apr 16, 2012 at 10:30 AM
I am the devil, you are welcome to hell at anytime.
Desmond
Desmond #208
Apr 17, 2012 at 10:53 PM
Alright guys, Santa Claus is here again.....

Got 5 copies of Dota2. Those interested give your Steam Ids here.
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R
rajan1311 #209
Apr 17, 2012 at 11:07 PM
Alright guys, Santa Claus is here again.....

Got 5 copies of Dota2. Those interested give your Steam Ids here.
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my steam ID is rajan1311...please send me one :)
Desmond
Desmond #210
Apr 17, 2012 at 11:42 PM
my steam ID is rajan1311...please send me one :)

There are two profiles by that name, which one is correct?
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Sarath
Sarath #211
Apr 17, 2012 at 11:47 PM
Steam ID: Maddoc_71
Desmond
Desmond #212
Apr 18, 2012 at 12:27 AM
Accept my request
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Sarath
Sarath #213
Apr 18, 2012 at 10:17 PM
Done. Sorry don't use steam much at all
Desmond
Desmond #214
Apr 19, 2012 at 1:02 AM
Sent...have fun.

Let me know when you play.
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Sarath
Sarath #215
Apr 19, 2012 at 1:57 AM
Received a mail. Thanks bro. Will fire it up tomorrow.

I'm not allowed to play these days :(
Desmond
Desmond #219
Apr 19, 2012 at 11:50 PM
I don't know. When I logged in, saw it in the notifications.

Will send you one.
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It says here that you already have Dota 2.
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Soumik
Soumik #220
Apr 20, 2012 at 12:32 AM
Can anyone tell me ho to get and play DOTA 2? :) am a noob, but play Dota AI maps ith random heroes along with a couple of my friends through GArena. And am dying to try out Dota 2 :).
Also a tutorial on how to play with AI bots would be needed :)
Desmond
Desmond #221
Apr 20, 2012 at 7:21 PM
Give me your Steam ID, I will gift you a copy. I have 3 extra copies.

You guys done downloading?
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R
rajan1311 #222
Apr 20, 2012 at 8:27 PM
life suxs...

Had to download the game twice...and once it finished, game keeps crashing on loading..no existing fix online works :(
Sarath
Sarath #226
Apr 21, 2012 at 2:22 AM
Created a seperate thread for Dota 2 here: *www.thinkdigit.com/forum/gamerz/155817-dota-2-discussion-thread.html
N
May 3, 2012 at 10:40 PM
Guys so are we having a Clan or what ?
Desmond
Desmond #228
May 4, 2012 at 12:11 AM
No one seems interested. If everyone gets focused, I think we can do something.
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If you got Dota 2, you can try on steam. Some of us are always online.
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Mehul Chauhan
May 28, 2012 at 4:35 PM
Garena ID - MysTeri0^

(Best Lan game in my opinion)