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DSLR - New DSLR buying advice/suggestion.

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binarycodes
binarycodes Original post #1
Dec 18, 2011 at 12:05 AM
Hi,

Having done whatever background research I could (and from whatever I could understand), I want to invest in a mid range SLR that I can afford and also one that would be with me for the foreseeable future. I am contemplating getting the Nikon D7000. (with the kit lens)

I've checked out Nikon D7000 and Nikon D90. So far I am liking the D7000 very much. However, testing it for 10mins is hardly going to tell me much. So if any noticeable problem is faced by its users here, I would very much like to know. (I guess the oil spot problems are long solved.)

Now, my main confusion in the lens. Having never used a SLR before (D or otherwise), I am not willing to go splurging on lenses before I am well aware of what exactly I want from it. Hence, I plan to get the kit lens (18-105 mm VR). And for portraits a 50mm.

Is this sane? And/or advisable?

D7000 body only is around 56K, last I asked. And 69K with the kit lens. Saying, I am willing to consider upto a max 80K, would you be suggesting only the body and a different lens? If yes, then kindly advise.

I am no hurry and am actually waiting for Nikon's production to smooth out a bit. :)


PS: For the brand, I can't explain but I find a certain attachment with Nikon :p But if a noticeable better alternative exists I am willing to listen.
sujoyp
sujoyp #2
Dec 18, 2011 at 12:52 AM
All your decisions r fine :D

Get D7000 with kit lens and 50mm as u already stated

Wait untill feb for prices to again come down properly or at least get them as soon as prices r reduced to 64k body+kit

The only other thing u can change is u can have Tamron 17-55 f2.8 lens for 22k instead of 18-105 kit lens
You must be knowing that bigger the aperture more light will enter and give u better image. The f2.8 aperture is very nice and u will not even miss your 50mm 1.8 much.
The downside is it dont have VR. But its very popular nowdays.
binarycodes
Dec 18, 2011 at 2:20 AM
Thanks for the inputs :)

Another downside of the tamron being its reach compared to the upto 105mm kit lens. ;)
Also, the 50mm I am looking at is the AF-S 50mm 1.4G (around 24K last checked)
prabhu.wali
Dec 18, 2011 at 9:56 AM
btw check him out JaredPolin's Channel - YouTube
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Illum #5
Dec 18, 2011 at 1:14 PM
spend more on glass than body, glass affects the photo ten times more than other things.

especially since your still going for a crop body instead of a full body.
pushkar
pushkar #6
Dec 18, 2011 at 2:37 PM
D7000 is no doubt one of the best APS-C DSLRs right now. It's sensor is THE BEST among all crop sensors right now in terms of dynamic range, high ISO performance, color depth, etc. (Pentax K-5, Sony A580 and Nikon D5100 also have very similar sensors, all likely manufactured by Sony).

Coming to lenses, I have the Canon 50mm 1.4 lens (with a crop DSLR), and I find it too long sometimes, especially when I need to take portraits in small indoors. I suggest going for the Nikon 35mm f/2 or f/1.8 or the Sigma 30mm f/1.4.

You seem to realize the importance of lenses and it's a good idea to first learn with the kit lens (considering that you are a beginner) and then move to a better lens. I don't know about the quality of Nikon's 18-55mm lens, but you should consider it as a starting lens. It's really cheap. I am recommending this because what I feel is that the 18-105 is not a very amazing lens, yet it's not very cheap. The higher lenses are much much better in quality (like 12-24 for landscapes, architecture, 16-85 or 17-55 or 24-70 for a versatile range, or 70-200 for telephoto, etc.), depending on your usage.

sujoyp said:
You must be knowing that bigger the aperture more light will enter and give u better image.
This is not necessarily true. A common properly of lenses is that the sweet spot sharpness wise is around f/5.6 - f/11. They are a bit less sharp at the highest apertures. Not to mention that the shallow depth of field with higher apertures may not suit your subject.

I also recommend getting a (good) tripod. It's really useful.
sujoyp
sujoyp #7
Dec 18, 2011 at 5:07 PM
@binarycodes R u sure u want 50mm 1.4 and know the comparative difference between 50mm 1.8 and 50mm 1.4 :) coz price difference is just too much it seems 6k and 24k :(

@Pushkar 50mm is a popular portrait lens...a portrait is taken with shoulder and head y do we need 35mm for that...a 35mm may cover abdomen to head :D

I am sorry for that vague statement...but most prime lenses r sharp throughout...a 50mm 1.8 is sharp from 2.8 itself...a 300 f4 lens is sharp from f4 itself a 70-200 2.8 lens is sharp overall :)

I agree save at least 6-7k of your budget for a descent tripod with ballhead which can hold 5kg
binarycodes
Dec 18, 2011 at 10:27 PM
@prabhu.wali

Thanks for the link :)

@Illum

I intend to spend on glasses as and when I understand what exactly I need :) But yes you are definitely right.
As for crop body, well FX is just not affordable now (not in the foreseeable future as well :p)


@pushkar

Thanks for the encouragement.

While I do understand the reasoning behind 18-55, the point is that I cannot afford to buy a whole lot of lenses right now. Hence, getting the 18-105 and the 50mm prime gives me pretty generic range and lets me learn the stuff while I gather money for a 70-300 maybe :p

Whereas, if I get the 18-55, I will be missing out on a little zoom (18-55 and 18-105 are similar in IQ I suppose).


@sujoyp

The 6K 50mm is the AF NIKKOR 50mm f/1.8D. I want to get the newer G lens (only for the Wave Motor thingy).
Now, that I think of it, I may get the AF-S NIKKOR 50mm f/1.8G and a tripod as pushkar & you suggested.

Will I regret missing the aperture ring too much, if I get the G lens?
prabhu.wali
Dec 18, 2011 at 11:20 PM
check this qout for 1.8D Vs 1.8G Nikon 50mm F1.8G vs Nikon 50 F1.8D - YouTube
sujoyp
sujoyp #10
Dec 18, 2011 at 11:23 PM
but its un-necesary to spend on AFS 50mm 1.8 when the normal AFD version will work fine with ur D7000 :(
AFD 50mm 1.8 may be nikons most popular lens ever...y neglect it :)

Nope u wont miss aperture ring much unless u plan to use it with Extension tube or reversal ring for macro work