el-cheapo gaming pc :: 30k

1. What is the purpose of the computer? What all applications and games are you going to run? (Stupid answers like 'gaming' or 'office work' will not work. Be exact. Which games? Which applications? Avoid the word 'et cetera.')
Ans: gaming and gaming (NFS MW 2012, MW3, boderland, crysis 3(if possible), gta IV, and gta V maybe)

2. What is your overall budget? If you can extend a bit for a more balanced configuration, then mention this too.
Ans:30(+2k)

3. Planning to overclock?
Ans:nope

4. Which Operating System are you planning to use?
Ans:win XP or 7

5. How much hard drive space is needed?
Ans:500 GB

6. Do you want to buy a monitor? If yes, please mention which screen size and resolution do you want. If you already have a monitor and want to reuse it, again mention the size and resolution of monitor you have.
Ans: 720p-1080p

7. Which components you DON'T want to buy or which components you already have and plan on reusing?
Ans: -none-

8. When are you planning to buy the system?
Ans: 10 february

9. Have you ever built a desktop before or will this be done by an assembler?
Ans: assembler

10. Where do you live? Are you buying locally? Are you open to buying stuff from online shops if you don't get locally?
Ans: chandigarh, and locally

11. Anything else which you would like to say?
Ans: **** happened

was going to buy a 45k rig
dad just refused now, its heartbreaking :wah:

* 10 march

i3 3220-Rs 7.5k
MSI/ASUS H61 - Rs 2.9K
RAM - Corsair ValueRAM 4GB DDR3- 1.1K
Monitor - DELLIN2030M-Rs 5.9K
ASUS DVDRW-1k
Corsair CX430v2- Rs 2500
HD 7770- Rs 8K
HDD-Seagate WD 500 GB Rs 3500
Case - El Cheapo cabinet - Rs 500 withou PSU (Upgrade this later)
Total - 32900
No UPS in config, add it by extending.. you MAY compromise on the HDD by getting a 320 GB or 250 GB, but I wouldnt recommend it..
If you can extend more, Getting a B75 Mobo makes sense, IF and only IF you are gonna use USB 3.0.. SATA 3.0 is pointless for a 30k rig..
For me, I dont need it, so I go for a H61 rig
Do a bit of research and find out which H61 mobo supports 1600mhz memory, buy it only if price differece is ~Rs500 and replace RAM with Corsair XMS3 (if u go with 1600mhz mobo)

Best VFM IMO

If you go for AMD A10 route, you wouldnt be able to add GPU and you will be stuck with HD 5570 level graphics until u save enough cash for a GPU

*www.flipkart.com/gigabyte-ga-h61m-s1-motherboard/p/itmdgh4e6ktuzges?pid=MBDDGH4D6Q5UHQDC&ref=74131ac9-1532-45c9-b4fd-6edd13226319&srno=t_10&otracker=from-search&query=H61

this supports 1600mhz memory, so find out where its available

D

Add to that a kb, a mouse, an opd

total around 1.5k more......getting a10 will partly solve budget problems..... get a10 with a good ram and you are done

split the gpu in above config like this

1k more for processor
1.5k for kb and mouse and opd
2k for ram (get a 8 gb one ripjawsx)
1-1.5 for fm2 mobo
remaining on cabby or save.....

btw if you can arrange the kb/mouse and opd or manage 35k, then above config would game better. My suggesation is only applicable if budget is a concern(35k is not possible).....

also just so you know, a10 is basically as good as i3, i3 being faster in single threaded applications and a10 being faster in multi threaded....

opd is not needed.. i already added it..
KB/Mouse has negligible cost..
Better to cut cost on Cabby, KB, Mouse than monitor/GPU/CPU
Easier to upgrade later
PS: Locally prices are much cheaper, i quoted flipkart prices

D

WTF it seems i have gone mad.....

forget my post get that one......( 1 to nervavine's config) just add b75 mobo.....

man i could not see the opd!!!!! still cant believe it. Totally pissed off now....

lol np

OP still has to figure out a way to deal with the UPS
Nice to see another fellow bhubaneswarian

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i was hoping to squeeze in 650ti if possible

nd no AMD
from what i know
i3 is better for gaming
hopefully il be adding a gpu later on

and in Chandigarh 3200 is for 6600
also i3 3210 is available at most of the shops i inquired, whats the difference between 3210 and 3220 anyways?

650Ti should be fine. But still, I would suggest you to add some more and get a HD 7850 for 2k more.

Well, the games are multi-threaded now and you better get a true quad core CPU by spending 3K more (i5 3540). Check the latest game benchmarks like Far Cry 3 and Crysis 3....the dual core processors like all the Pentium G series and even the HT enabled (2 Core, 4 threads) i3 3220 are getting hammered by the budget quad core Processors like FX-4170, even by the new Trinity APUs like A10-5800K.
Crysis 3 Performance Test: Graphics & CPU > CPU Performance - TechSpot

only a 0.1ghzdifference.. betn i3 3210 and 3220
GTX 650Ti is impossible in 32k rig..
No way u can cut down anymore..
Possible if u get G645 instead, but i wont recommendit

AMD 3.6 GHz AM3+ FX4100 Processor - AMD: Flipkart.com this instead of i3?

forget the above one
its bad
how about this?
*www.flipkart.com/amd-3-3-ghz-am3-fx6100-processor/product-reviews/ITMD54HRGUZHMGD9?pid=PSRD54HRMTD7P5DX&sort_order=most-recent

actually 6100 is not bad considering more and more games in the future will utilize multiple cores

I wish FX4700 was available in india

Going through A10 make more sense for budget gamer.Quad core is must.And get a faster ram

fx 4100 is also quad core i suppose

what if i buy some parts second hand?

Well, FX-4100 is not going to be a hit with older titles which are not Multi-Core optimized and rely more upon single-threaded performance, but for new games with proper CPU optimization, like Crysis 3, it is at least ahead of i3 2100.

Cilus said:
Well, FX-4100 is not going to be a hit with older titles which are not Multi-Core optimized and rely more upon single-threaded performance, but for new games with proper CPU optimization, like Crysis 3, it is at least ahead of i3 2100.
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nice, is FX 6300 is available in India yet ??

^nope.. I dont think any piledriver CPUs are available in India

Well you can go with this config:

Intel Core i3 3225 -7500,
Gigabyte GA-B75M-D3H -4000,
Corsair Vengeance 1600MHz 4GB -1500,
Corsair CX430 v2 -2800,
NZXT Source 210 Elite -2900,
Asus 24B5ST DVD-RW -1000,
WD Caviar Blue 500GB -3100,
Dell 20" IN2030M LED -6400,
Gigabyte HD7750 1GB OC -6600,
Logitech Gaming Combo G100 -1600.

TOTAL -37,400.

mannnnnnnnnnnn, you forgot the most imp thing!!!!!!!!!!!

Nerevarine said:
^nope.. I dont think any piledriver CPUs are available in India

an i3 then?

processor :: i3 :: 6.5k
mobo :: dont know??
gpu :: 650ti :: 10k
cabinet+mouse+keyboard :: 1
*www.flipkart.com/seasonic-ss400bt-psu/p/itmdfbeqezgmgggf?pid=PSUDFBEPQB2ZCCMS&ref=6d49115d-176b-46cd-b114-cc28bebde1d0
or this
*www.flipkart.com/corsair-cmpsu-430cxv2uk-430-watts-psu/p/itmd5xz5qs9mhqmq?pid=PSUD5XZ4ZJ5YPGBU&ref=6d49115d-176b-46cd-b114-cc28bebde1d0
hdd :: wd caviar blue 500GB (no use buying 320gb as u rightly said) :: 3100

sorry the reply seems messy

and this mobo?
*www.flipkart.com/gigabyte-ga-h61m-d2h-motherboard/p/itmd5rrrkdwuhkgm?pid=MBDD5RRR4FJKZYRX&ref=2873e838-fd2b-4fff-8f40-7cc80692d88e

bee said:
mannnnnnnnnnnn, you forgot the most imp thing!!!!!!!!!!!

an i3 then?

processor :: i3 :: 6.5k
mobo :: dont know??
gpu :: 650ti :: 10k
cabinet+mouse+keyboard :: 1
Seasonic SS400BT PSU - Seasonic: Flipkart.com
or this
Corsair CMPSU-430CXV2UK 430 Watts PSU - Corsair: Flipkart.com
hdd :: wd caviar blue 500GB (no use buying 320gb as u rightly said) :: 3100

sorry the reply seems messy

and this mobo?
Gigabyte GA-H61M-D2H Motherboard - Gigabyte: Flipkart.com

Well then here's another alternative and best config:

AMD A10-5800K -8500,
Asus F2A55-M-LE -4790,
Corsair Vengeance 1600MHz 4GB -1500,
Corsair CX430 v2 -2800,
NZXT Source 210 Elite -2900,
Asus 24B5ST DVD-RW -1000,
WD Caviar Blue 500GB -3100,
Dell 20" IN2030M LED -6400,
Logitech Gaming Combo G100 -1600.

TOTAL -32,590.

bssunil said:
Well you can go with this config:

Intel Core i3 3225 -6000,
Gigabyte GA-B75M-D3H -4000,
Corsair Vengeance 1600MHz 4GB -1500,
Corsair CX430 v2 -2800,
NZXT Source 210 Elite -2900,
Asus 24B5ST DVD-RW -1000,
WD Caviar Blue 500GB -3100,
Dell 20" IN2030M LED -6400,
Gigabyte HD7750 1GB OC -6600,
Logitech Gaming Combo G100 -1600.

TOTAL -35,900.

i3 3225 costs 3.5 k more than what you think it is

Nerevarine said:
i3 3225 costs 3.5 k more than what you think it is

Actually some vendors are quoting 6-6.5k and others 7.5k. So it is a difference of 1.5k.In this case (i3 3225) you need to spend for a discrete GPU but in the case of AMD A10-5800k @8.5k you are already getting a good GPU embedded in the CPU itself.So why spending on unnecessary items which can be used for buying an 60GB SSD for fast boot times.Ok.

dude, AMD A10-5800K is good, agreed but its no match for a HD 7770.. Integrated GPU on it can be compared to HD 5570
Even if he did get an AMD A10-5800K, he still has to get a GPU in the future..
If OP can save 8k more, its fine tho..
(Going through same situation myself :))

btw i3 3225 is useless in our case as OP is gonna be using discrete graphics..
better buy i3 3220

Nerevarine said:
dude, AMD A10-5800K is good, agreed but its no match for a HD 7770.. Integrated GPU on it can be compared to HD 5570
Even if he did get an AMD A10-5800K, he still has to get a GPU in the future..
If OP can save 8k more, its fine tho..
(Going through same situation myself
btw i3 3225 is useless in our case as OP is gonna be using discrete graphics..
better buy i3 3220

OP can still crossfire a discrete GPU with APU in the future if he intends to buy any.

il go for the i3
and definitely for a gpu as well
hd 7770 if not 650ti

bssunil said:
OP can still crossfire a discrete GPU with APU in the future if he intends to buy any.

yes, and a HD 7770 will still outperform the HD 6670 + HD 7660D
Hybrid XFire is just a gimmick

Nerevarine said:
yes, and a HD 7770 will still outperform the HD 6670 + HD 7660D
Hybrid XFire is just a gimmick

exactly what i know

now coming to the el-crapo pc
could you choose the psu out of these?
*www.flipkart.com/seasonic-ss400bt-psu/p/itmdfbeqezgmgggf?pid=PSUDFBEPQB2ZCCMS&ref=6d49115d-176b-46cd-b114-cc28bebde1d0
and
*www.flipkart.com/corsair-cmpsu-430cxv2uk-430-watts-psu/p/itmd5xz5qs9mhqmq?pid=PSUD5XZ4ZJ5YPGBU&ref=6d49115d-176b-46cd-b114-cc28bebde1d0

bee said:
exactly what i know

now coming to the el-crapo pc
could you choose the psu out of these?
Seasonic SS400BT PSU - Seasonic: Flipkart.com
and
Corsair CMPSU-430CXV2UK 430 Watts PSU - Corsair: Flipkart.com

This : Corsair CMPSU-430CXV2UK 430 Watts PSU - Corsair: Flipkart.com

and the mobo?

bee said:
and the mobo?

This : Gigabyte GA-B75M-D3H Motherboard - Gigabyte: Flipkart.com

this'll add another 1000 to the budget
something between 300-3300 instead?

D

You may get h61 mobo but i wont recommend that.....

it doesnt make sense buying older stuff does it??

but h61 should work....(Though i would not buy it)

You may get h61 mobo but i wont recommend that.....

it doesnt make sense buying older stuff does it??

but h61 should work....(Though i would not buy it)

Under 3.2k best is gigabyte h61 d2h mobo

Intel Config:
Intel Core i3 3225 -7500,
Gigabyte GA-B75M-D3H -4000,
Gigabyte HD7770 1GB OC.

AMD Config:
AMD A10-5800K -8500,
Asus F2A55-M-LE -4790,
Gigabyte HD7770 1GB OC.

Rest is same like:
Corsair Vengeance 1600MHz 4GB -1500,
Corsair CX430 v2 -2800,
NZXT Source 210 Elite -2900,
Asus 24B5ST DVD-RW -1000,
WD Caviar Blue 500GB -3100,
Dell 20" IN2030M LED -6400,
Logitech Gaming Combo G100 -1600.

D

If you are going with intel config and if you decide to buy a HD 7770 graphics card then there is no point in going for intel core i3 3225 as the only difference B/w them is HD4000 gpu in i3 3225 and HD2500 in i3 3220 which doesn't matter if you are going for a discrete gpu like HD7770. Better go for i3 3220 + HD7770 and save Rs.1000.

As far as mobo is concerned Gigabyte GA-B75M-D3H is a better option than h61.

You can easily find i3 3210 or 3220 at rs 6600.no need to get i3 3225.

il go for the i3 3220 if available
or i3 3210 then
and if possible then the 650ti
otherwise will have to go with the 7770 :neutral: