ever heard of XTREME or EXTREME brand of ram.

hi i want to buy 1gb ram.my vendor has offered me xtreme or extreme brand's ram for 4400.is it good brand .ne 1 heard or used it.what isthe price of other brand's for 1gb ram.

A

Never heard of it.

Price of 1GB should vary from sub 4k(very lucky) to 5k+

you can get transcend around 4500, which mobo ?

R

Just get kingston or transcend.
If u really want real extreme fast modules,check out Corsair.

A

Don't get kingston.

I am not sure whether corsair value select DDR1 modules will oc at all.
If they do, then get them. prices should be around the same at most few hundred more.

or get transcend (UCCC chips, if not available then hynix d43 chips)

R

knigston is the best,buddy,why dont u like it,man?

Well....for normal use get Transcend or TwinMos or Kingston........

For high performance get Corsair or OCZ.....

I am not sure whether corsair value select DDR1 modules will oc at all.

Corsair Value Select can run at 450 MHz......stable....
And also at a speed of 400 MHz it can run with a CAS latecy if 2CL..even though rated 2.5CL

R

i think Kingston is best suited for him....thats it....get Kingston...end of it.

A

it all depends upon the chips. during my time corsair value select didn't oc much if at all.
also, 400 to 450 is not a big jump. All value ram will mostly give the same performance, small differences, better brand might be more stable etc.

Don't get kingston, you have no reason to.

If you want to oc:
get transcend (UCCC chips)

If you don't want to oc:
get corsair value select provided mobo supports the ram modules in both cases

kingston:
give a logical reason to go for it, there is no reason to go for it.

R

whatever,kingston is the best.

Also... u can overclok Transcend mudules...if u have good heat spreaders... to 450-468 MHz.....

@akshay:Which mudules are u using?

my suggestion is Kingston or Transcend.............

A

Kingston is not the best. You have no evidence, please keep quiet.

OC depends on chips.
Hynix D43 might not oc at all(may be) or may even reach 270 from 200.
UCCC may be able to do 250 or higher(maybe)

Do you want to oc, pelase tell?

R

what the hell,do u want evidence now...omg.
OK,i lose and u win.

it all depends upon the chips. during my time corsair value select didn't oc much if at all.
also, 400 to 450 is not a big jump. All value ram will mostly give the same performance, small differences, better brand might be more stable etc.

The problem was not with the RAM .. but the user (yes dodo .. U) .... now ur sti**ing around with ur RAM gyan too ??? 400 -> 450 not a good OC ??? Hmmmm .... what ru ??? are u an alien ???

Also ... about the vendor that said about the Xtreme or Extreme mem. ,... he could be selling u off some cheap local ram .... there are loads of them out there ... though they're not bad .. they're not meant to be messed around with ... and are preferred to run at stock ... the big plus is the price ... quite less from even Zion ram's .... and if u want cheap mem. modules to mess around with , then definitely get Kingston ...

R

yes,kingston is absolutely OK 4 everyone .

I think he wants to run 400MHz modules at 500MHz.....

A

transcend uccc will run 400 @ 500
hynix d43 if lucky can goto 540 from 400 i think

asus a8n e doesn't supprt each kingston chip

local ram for 4400 is not worth it, even branded costs just as much maybe 100-300 type diff

hey hows hynix.....i had seen 400mhz 1GB hynix ram for 3800/-

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I don't recommend hynix.

Hynix using D34 chips is ok but I would rather have Transcend using UCCC(first choice) or Hynix D43 chips.

Yeah ... as if the distributors or the resellers understand the minute specs.

Hynix chips are good .. like i said .. with mine at stock latencies ( 3,4,4,12

) i can go upto 240 MHz i.e. ddr480 stable ... and with tweaked latencies ( 2,3,3,6 ) i get to around 215 MHz i.e. ddr430 ... though they lack heatsinks and i don't oc them coz i can't afford to fry them ...

Now ... the catch is that oc'ing doesn't involve ram oc'ing necessarily ... so these modules do great till u keep them at stock ... thus having a oc'ed cpu and ram running at stock with lower latencies ... now i got 2 GB for around 9k's .. that makes them quite cheap ...

asus a8n e doesn't supprt each kingston chip

Care to explain ?? My friend is using 2*1 GB kingston ddr4000 kingston modules for quite a few months now without any problem .... infact he has them running at 215 MHz all the time .... and that too with forced latencies of 3,2,3,8 ...

akshayt said:
Don't get kingston.

May I know why ? Any particular reasons

R

i think akshayt had a past battle(maybe in the LOTR times) with the best RAM manufacturing company of the world.

A

When I bought the mobo and ram, corsair value select wasn't supported in a pair of 2 with asus a8n e acc to manual and personal experience. the manual also mentions some other modules including one/some kingston. some kingston might be running while some might not. everything depends upon chips.

hynix may be making many chips, i am only refering to hynix d43 chips and not any crap chip. hynix d43 might let you oc even more. also you can get to know the chips by looking at the ram modules and readin it but the dealers won't know all this.

akshayt said:
transcend uccc will run 400 @ 500
hynix d43 if lucky can goto 540 from 400 i think

asus a8n e doesn't supprt each kingston chip

local ram for 4400 is not worth it, even branded costs just as much maybe 100-300 type diff

Are these seeds possible without heat sink/heat spreaders???And at stock timings?

local ram for 4400 is not worth it, even branded costs just as much
maybe 100-300 type diff

Hmmm .. Hynix 2 GB for ~9200 .. Corsair Value 2 GB for ~12000 .... 100-300 diff. my a**

akshayt : U some kind of hardware freaked expert turned chusa hua aam ???

R

ha hahaaha ahahah hah ah.......................

J

akshayt said:
transcend uccc will run 400 @ 500
hynix d43 if lucky can goto 540 from 400 i think

asus a8n e doesn't supprt each kingston chip

local ram for 4400 is not worth it, even branded costs just as much maybe 100-300 type diff

In another post, you said that a8 ne does'nt support Corsair Value Select Ram. But my 2x1GB ones are running fine with a8 ne. Now other people are saying that they are using Kingston without any problem. You are always suggesting Transcend only. I dont understand why.

BTW till recently, I was using Transcend 512x2 and it was also working fine.

K

U should go for kingston or transcend or cosair.

OT:
Many of you asking about heat spreaders in here. How many of you have ram heating problems? Mine (in my sig) doesn't even turn mildly warm in operation. Maybe it differs with type of chips.

siriusb said:
OT:
Many of you asking about heat spreaders in here. How many of you have ram heating problems? Mine (in my sig) doesn't even turn mildly warm in operation. Maybe it differs with type of chips.

Are u using UCCC chips??How much was the performance gain after oc?

Kingston is one of the best brand of RAM.

samrulez said:
Are u using UCCC chips??How much was the performance gain after oc?

This thing is neither d43, uccc or bh5 or what not. It's a sux0r jetram module. At the time of my purchase delta didn't have any other ram and I didn't have more money too. But it's ok for the price. It can do a max of 240MHz on the same latencies but I have to lower it to reach higher oc in cpu.

Many of you asking about heat spreaders in here. How many of you have ram heating problems? Mine (in my sig) doesn't even turn mildly warm in operation. Maybe it differs with type of chips.

Well .. that depends on how much u oc .. for stock heat spreaders are almost not necessary .. but if u oc the CPU too much , and specially in cases where the cpu gets and increase in over 10c under load .. imagine the hot air directly dumped on the ram's (specially with the stock cooler) ... specially with the oc'ed RAM ... just playing safe i guess ...

OCZ and Corsair can literally push over 50 MHz on with lowered latencies ... thats quite a load. .. so the heat spreaders can really ensure that ur ram runs a little cooler . specially if the ambient temp. inside the cabinet is high , or the CPU is still running on the stock cooling ...

Even my stupid Zion modules can be pushed to 240 at stock latencies .. and runs pretty normal . without any spreaders ... thats like from ddr400 to ddr480 on stock ... no additional cooling ... rock stable ...

Actually it depends more on the chip and the volts you are supplying. For example, bh5 chips are known to take in heavy volts (more than 3.5Vs). I run mine at a humble 2.6V. Considering all this, I wanted to know how many here need heat spreaders to oc more.

Hmmm ... a general opinion i guess.. .. but beats me ... heat spreaders should make it a bit safe to OC .. most of the oc'ing bottleneck is from the excess heat aint it ??

Also .. i doubt hardly a good percentage has modules with heat spreaders .. coz standard one's are very rare to be shipped with them ... nonetheless .. many use corsair here .. so ...

BTW .. those are some nice OC and timings on the ram ... how much did 2 GB costs u ... as rough estimation would be enough ...

hey wanted to ask a question .... ihave a 256 MB ram and i m thinking of adding another 1GB ram .. will there be any probs.?

No.....u will have no probs.....is u put them in single channel......but u can't do that in double channel..

@Tango_Cash:
Does the ram you mention look like this:
*www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=101692
It looks like a killer ram. Just make sure you get good timings and based on a good chip.

deathvirus_me said:
Hmmm ... a general opinion i guess.. .. but beats me ... heat spreaders should make it a bit safe to OC .. most of the oc'ing bottleneck is from the excess heat aint it ??

Also .. i doubt hardly a good percentage has modules with heat spreaders .. coz standard one's are very rare to be shipped with them ... nonetheless .. many use corsair here .. so ...

Like I said, unless you supply more than 3V, have water cooling (so don't have much air moving) and overclock the memory insanely, you won't need heat spreaders. EVEN then you 'might' be able to gain 1MHZ or 2MHz at best. I think even a corsair tech admitted this like a year back. RD rams and legacy rams OTHT may benefit from "heat spreading" though. It's more of a glitz now than anything.

BTW .. those are some nice OC and timings on the ram ... how much did 2 GB costs u ... as rough estimation would be enough ...

I bought it for Rs.4,250/1GB mid june.