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FBI helps with terrorist plots in the US

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Desmond
Desmond Original post #1
May 2, 2012 at 4:07 PM
Apparently, US's vanguard against terrorism aids terrorist plots in the US and foils them too.

THE United States has been narrowly saved from lethal terrorist plots in recent years - or so it has seemed. A would-be suicide bomber was intercepted on his way to the Capitol; a scheme to bomb synagogues and shoot Stinger missiles at military aircraft was developed by men in Newburgh, N.Y.; and a fanciful idea to fly explosive-laden model planes into the Pentagon and the Capitol was hatched in Massachusetts.

But all these dramas were facilitated by the F.B.I., whose undercover agents and informers posed as terrorists offering a dummy missile, fake C-4 explosives, a disarmed suicide vest and rudimentary training. Suspects naïvely played their parts until they were arrested.

When an Oregon college student, Mohamed Osman Mohamud, thought of using a car bomb to attack a festive Christmas-tree lighting ceremony in Portland, the F.B.I. provided a van loaded with six 55-gallon drums of "inert material," harmless blasting caps, a detonator cord and a gallon of diesel fuel to make the van smell flammable. An undercover F.B.I. agent even did the driving, with Mr. Mohamud in the passenger seat. To trigger the bomb the student punched a number into a cellphone and got no boom, only a bust.

This is legal, but is it legitimate? Without the F.B.I., would the culprits commit violence on their own? Is cultivating potential terrorists the best use of the manpower designed to find the real ones? Judging by their official answers, the F.B.I. and the Justice Department are sure of themselves - too sure, perhaps.

Carefully orchestrated sting operations usually hold up in court. Defendants invariably claim entrapment and almost always lose, because the law requires that they show no predisposition to commit the crime, even when induced by government agents. To underscore their predisposition, many suspects are "warned about the seriousness of their plots and given opportunities to back out," said Dean Boyd, a Justice Department spokesman. But not always, recorded conversations show. Sometimes they are coaxed to continue.
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Makes me wonder about the whole 9/11 episode (had doubts since Zeitgeist).
CommanderShawnzer
May 2, 2012 at 5:12 PM
:lol: so Uncle Sam's "we are the protectors of peace"title is just like a reality show---Staged/Scripted
Desmond
Desmond #3
May 2, 2012 at 5:21 PM
:lol: so Uncle Sam's "we are the protectors of peace"title is just like a reality show---Staged/Scripted

I had my doubts about this for a long time now (since I watched Zeitgeist). Makes me wonder if the real terrorists actually exist or just another hoax created to keep the poor American public under fear, while at the same time giving them an excuse to attack Afghanistan, &c.

I wonder if something of the sort is going on in India. Like 7/11 could be an inside job.
doomgiver
May 2, 2012 at 10:55 PM
well, you guys should really ask who runs america, the government, or the big industrialists.
fun2sh
fun2sh #5
May 2, 2012 at 11:13 PM
lol. its lik the movie Departed, where the main villain was FBI informant though he used to have gang of his and train more gang members
Desmond
Desmond #6
May 3, 2012 at 12:36 AM
well, you guys should really ask who runs america, the government, or the big industrialists.

That is a well known conspiracy, but I guess its bankers more than industrialists.
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Anorion
Anorion #7
May 3, 2012 at 12:42 AM
its a ponzi scheme. gadaffi new all of it. he pointed fingers at the jews. apparently they have those nano-particles in teh water that make them dumb and screen-fiends. the russians figured it all out though. they are trying desperately to make peace with the aliens because they know war is not an alternative.
Desmond
Desmond #8
May 3, 2012 at 1:02 AM
Then we can conclude that the whole country of America is actually a joke. The people are just slaves who just don't know it yet.

(I wonder what about India?)
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Faun
Faun #9
May 3, 2012 at 2:26 AM
its a ponzi scheme. gadaffi new all of it. he pointed fingers at the jews. apparently they have those nano-particles in teh water that make them dumb and screen-fiends. the russians figured it all out though. they are trying desperately to make peace with the aliens because they know war is not an alternative.

haha..,.:lol:

And Rihanna + all the musicians are with Illuminati clique.
doomgiver
doomgiver #11
May 3, 2012 at 5:27 PM
...who came from sirius beta
skeletor
skeletor #14
May 4, 2012 at 10:44 AM
Taliban was actually created by USA and Pakistan together to counter the Soviet Invasion in Afghanistan through "the means of Islam."

And now whom are they fighting against?

That said, even India isn't a saint as far as foreign involvement is concerned. But we aren't notorious like our neighbours and USA.

I wonder if something of the sort is going on in India. Like 7/11 could be an inside job.
No, we never play the self-destruct card.
Desmond
Desmond #15
May 4, 2012 at 11:12 AM
Taliban was actually created by USA and Pakistan together to counter the Soviet Invasion in Afghanistan through "the means of Islam."

And now whom are they fighting against?

Frankenstein's monster anyone?

That said, even India isn't a saint as far as foreign involvement is concerned. But we aren't notorious like our neighbours and USA.


No, we never play the self-destruct card.


Then why is Kasab still alive (not that I want him dead)? Why have the masterminds not been caught yet? I'm telling you bro, there some really f****d up **** going on here.
D
May 4, 2012 at 11:31 AM
I think it is not the FBI that is creating these terrorists it is just facilitating them in recognizing their plans which they have and in the process catching them, they are trying to knip this in the bud before it blooms(and I dare say this method is flawless), but still it atleast stops those extremists from getting in contact with the terrorist groups and actually executing their plans, and better still they are atleast doing something against terrorism not sitting idle like Indian government has been since more than 20 years :X .....
amjath
amjath #17
May 4, 2012 at 11:44 AM
there are many videos on YouTube explaining 9/11, but nobody cares.
skeletor
skeletor #18
May 4, 2012 at 12:06 PM
Then why is Kasab still alive (not that I want him dead)? Why have the masterminds not been caught yet? I'm telling you bro, there some really f****d up **** going on here.
You mean Kasab-26/11 was an Indian plot?

Enjoy.

Arsenal_Gunners
May 4, 2012 at 12:23 PM
Conspiracy theories are fun but you grow out of them with age.

well, you guys should really ask who runs america, the government, or the big industrialists.

Reptile aliens
Desmond
Desmond #20
May 4, 2012 at 12:32 PM
You guys seen Zeitgeist? Probable conspiracy theory material, but looks pretty authentic.

Terrorism is something created to keep people in fear, suppressed and docile. Also, as long as there is a war going on (in this case, war on terrorism), the cash registers keep running for the business guys. :|
G
May 4, 2012 at 12:39 PM
Taliban and NATO is similar to Indian govt's creation of LTTE and using IPKF to destroy it.Rajiv gandhi started it and it cost his life.

You guys seen Zeitgeist? Probable conspiracy theory material, but looks pretty authentic.

Terrorism is something created to keep people in fear, suppressed and docile. Also, as long as there is a war going on (in this case, war on terrorism), the cash registers keep running for the business guys. :|

Its real not conspiracy
D
May 4, 2012 at 12:43 PM
You mean Kasab-26/11 was an Indian plot?

Enjoy.


Hahaha Zahid Hamid(according to them 'a renouned Pakistani security Analyst' :shock: ) is fun to listen, See all his videos and all he has one sol. for all the problems 'Nuke India, Israel and US and all our problems are solved' unbelieveable :-o .
skeletor
skeletor #23
May 4, 2012 at 12:44 PM
Taliban and NATO is similar to Indian govt's creation of LTTE and using IPKF to destroy it.
LTTE wasn't India's "creation". It was the creation (result) of Sinhala majoritarianism. Though India did train them (taking advantage of the situation) and then fought against them. Been on both sides. Like I said, we aren't saints either.
Arsenal_Gunners
May 4, 2012 at 12:44 PM
Stop believing everything you see on the internet/youtube.It's just half-truths and outright lies served up for the dumb people to consume.
Follow good journalists and decent media outlets.Form your opinions through that.
D
May 4, 2012 at 12:47 PM
Stop believing everything you see on the internet/youtube.It's just half-truths and outright lies served up for the dumb people to consume.
Follow good journalists and decent media outlets.Form your opinions through that.

+1 totally agree
Desmond
Desmond #26
May 4, 2012 at 12:54 PM
Stop believing everything you see on the internet/youtube.It's just half-truths and outright lies served up for the dumb people to consume.
Follow good journalists and decent media outlets.Form your opinions through that.

Agreed. But, please mention some credible sources then, whom can we trust in such situations? You never know who supports whom/what and what's unbiased and what's not. AFAIK, all those who bring out the truth don't have a good life expectancy.
G
May 4, 2012 at 12:55 PM
Stop believing everything you see on the internet/youtube.It's just half-truths and outright lies served up for the dumb people to consume.
Follow good journalists and decent media outlets.Form your opinions through that.

and how do you trust the journalists either ?
Most of the journalism today creates paid and manufactured news to make ppl believe something with some objective in mind like change of economic policy,to wage a war,etc set by rich ppl.
Arsenal_Gunners
May 4, 2012 at 12:59 PM
AFAIK, all those who bring out the truth don't have a good life expectancy.

That's another conspiracy theory which is BS.There are plenty of career whistleblowers around.

and how do you trust the journalists either ?
Most of the journalism today creates paid and manufactured news to make ppl believe something with some objective in mind like change of economic policy,to wage a war,etc set by rich ppl.
It doesn't take much to see through an agenda if you are well informed.
The Guardian for example is an excellent paper.It has a left-wing stance which suits my views.If you want neutrality there is the BBC.
s18000rpm
s18000rpm #29
May 4, 2012 at 2:51 PM
Stop believing everything you see on the internet/youtube.It's just half-truths and outright lies served up for the dumb people to consume.
Follow good journalists and decent media outlets.Form your opinions through that.

DoorDarshan News

*i.imgur.com/b95F7.png?1
Anorion
Anorion #31
May 4, 2012 at 4:26 PM
reptaliens the only protection is to wear long flowing tangerine gowns and live in a lead bunker
tin foil hat wont cut it

history textbooks skip over all the bits where we did wrong
Desmond
Desmond #32
May 4, 2012 at 4:52 PM
We must direct people to occupy Area 51. We could use the dark-matter rifles stocked there to exterminate the reptilians.
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suresh123 #34
May 15, 2012 at 3:40 PM
How it can be possible?We think that it is the world's top security agency of world.