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Foxconn using unpaid student interns to build the PS4

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Desmond
Desmond Original post #1
Oct 10, 2013 at 6:12 AM
Looks like old habits die hard. Foxconn is at it again.

If reports in the Chinese press are to be believed, Sony’s next-gen games console may be being assembled using some very outdated labor practices. According to Hong Kong’s Oriental Daily, thousands of students from an IT engineering program at the Xi’an Institute of Technology are being forced to work at Foxconn’s Yantai plant assembling the Sony Playstation 4. Students have been told if they refuse to participate, they lose six course credits, which effectively means they will not be able to graduate.

Officially, the program is considered an “internship” and it is publicly recognized and promoted by the school. But students have said that once they got to Foxconn, they were assigned to jobs that had no relation whatsoever to their fields of study, including grunt work like distribution and shipping. One student, for example, majored in finance and accounting but has been assigned to a job that entails glueing together parts of Sony’s Playstation 4. Another was assigned to a job that entails peeling of the PS4′s protective plastic and putting stickers on it. Still another, a computer science major, puts the PS4′s various cords and the instruction manual into the console’s box. Moreover, students say that their working hours are exactly the same as regular workers. The only difference is that unlike the workers, the students aren’t being paid.

Foxconn told the Oriental Daily that its workers are all voluntary and that it has no interest in preventing them from leaving work if they choose to. The Xi’an Institute of Technology declined to comment on whether the university had received an agent’s fee for providing what is essentially free labor to the Foxconn plant and did not directly answer questions about whether or not the internship program was forced, but stressed that it was legal and that it was “mainly about making students learn about society and experience life.”

This is not the first time Foxconn has been involved in a controversial and apparently compulsory internship program. In fact, a story involving Foxconn and this exact same college (the Xi’an Institute of Technology) emerged last year, too.

Whether or not this kind of “internship” is technically legal, it definitely makes you feel a little icky about the launch of the upcoming PS4. It looks like an exciting console, but when people start unboxing them later this fall, I’ll be wondering how many of those consoles were packaged and shipped by students who were essentially forced to work long hours without getting paid.

Source : Report: Foxconn using forced student labor to build Sony's PS4
icebags
icebags #2
Oct 10, 2013 at 6:26 AM
at least they get industrial exposure. besides, which engg student likes to learn/ study if he is not forced ? :D
Desmond
Desmond #3
Oct 10, 2013 at 6:49 AM
Internship and forced labor are two different things.
debarshi
Oct 10, 2013 at 4:53 PM
at least they get industrial exposure. besides, which engg student likes to learn/ study if he is not forced ? :D

Just because he's a engg student, but that doesn't mean he will be forced to work in places without pay.

And no, proper engineering students after the 2nd/3rd year really likes to know about these things
sujoyp
sujoyp #5
Oct 10, 2013 at 5:53 PM
in china you can not refuse...all works on money and permit
Desmond
Desmond #6
Oct 10, 2013 at 6:00 PM
Not only the PS4, Foxconn has been assembling the new XBox One as well.

Foxconn is already assembling the new Xbox for Microsoft | Games | Geek.com
Flash
Flash #7
Oct 10, 2013 at 6:06 PM
And no, proper engineering students after the 2nd/3rd year really likes to know about these things

But students have said that once they got to Foxconn, they were assigned to jobs that had no relation whatsoever to their fields of study, including grunt work like distribution and shipping. One student, for example, majored in finance and accounting but has been assigned to a job that entails glueing together parts of Sony’s Playstation 4. Another was assigned to a job that entails peeling of the PS4′s protective plastic and putting stickers on it. Still another, a computer science major, puts the PS4′s various cords and the instruction manual into the console’s box.

We don't need a engineering degree to do these things..
Desmond
Desmond #8
Oct 10, 2013 at 7:10 PM
Imagine if you that the college you were studying in mandates that you have to do manual labor, say building walls, otherwise they will not allow you to graduate because some building company paid your college for this. How would you feel?
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arpit60 #10
Oct 10, 2013 at 10:27 PM
i wouldn't mind a free PS4 at the end of the internship though :lol:
icebags
icebags #11
Oct 11, 2013 at 12:57 AM
Imagine if you that the college you were studying in mandates that you have to do manual labor, say building walls, otherwise they will not allow you to graduate because some building company paid your college for this. How would you feel?

i would have learned enough to assemble my own customized xbox 540, instead of buying one xbox 360 from M$oft. :D

i believe not all engg students are assigned to pulling out stickers or connecting wires blindly, it that was it, they could have hired BA students, not engg students. :D
Hrishi
Hrishi #12
Oct 11, 2013 at 1:08 AM
I really don't know the inside reality , but somehow I get a feeling that brutality is at its peak in that country. I don't see how thats a measure of development.
Extreme Gamer
Oct 11, 2013 at 1:10 AM
In any country with fair labour practices, you are paid, and paid rather well, for internships and co-op programs :|

This is actually slave labour, not forced labour, if you ask me.
Hrishi
Hrishi #14
Oct 11, 2013 at 1:58 AM
^ in that country lots of things aren't even close to being called fair. What I am scared about is that the trend happening in that country spreading to other places , due to cheap/inexpensive/free labour and blah blah blah.
Mr.Kickass
Oct 11, 2013 at 2:13 AM
The typical candidates would've been those mobile repairing guys but definitely NOT an engineer
Desmond
Desmond #16
Oct 11, 2013 at 5:01 AM
Foxconn is alleged to have employees 14 year old kids to work at one point. Also, the working conditions are known to be questionable. Apple had stopped them from manufacturing their devices because of this. But, they still build devices for many other companies.
saswat23
saswat23 #17
Oct 11, 2013 at 11:07 AM
So, Foxconn is a Manufacturing company or its a Pcakaging/Assembling company?
Anorion
Anorion #18
Oct 11, 2013 at 11:37 AM
^whats the diff?
Foxconn still makes stuff for Apple, Sony, Amazon, HP, MS, Google...
All internships, including 14 year olds. Dont see whats so wrong about it.
Hard work never killed anyone
Desmond
Desmond #19
Oct 11, 2013 at 3:42 PM
So, Foxconn is a Manufacturing company or its a Pcakaging/Assembling company?

Both I guess.

^whats the diff?
Foxconn still makes stuff for Apple, Sony, Amazon, HP, MS, Google...
All internships, including 14 year olds. Dont see whats so wrong about it.
Hard work never killed anyone

I don't believe students should do manual labor, at least not unpaid. Besides, that internship is a guise to get cheap (free) labor.
Mr.Kickass
Oct 11, 2013 at 3:47 PM
All internships, including 14 year olds. Dont see whats so wrong about it.
Hard work never killed anyone

You need to dig a little more. No internship makes headlines except for the huge stipend that they have to offer. This isn't the reason why its in the news

that internship is a guise to get cheap (free) labor.

This is the short answer
Gollum
Gollum #21
Oct 11, 2013 at 6:36 PM
holy ****, I'm not gonna buy the first gen ps4 then. a console made by rookies with have serious issues like cold solder and loose wires.