GAM1NG PC @70k · DIGIT-ARC

[COMPLETED] GAMING PC: @70k(95k finally)

BIG THANKS TO
Extreme Gamer
topgear
vickybat
Joker
tkin
ico
game-freak
Cilus
Piyush
d3p5kor
mukherjee
Tenida
nilgtx260
Demon Lord
Who
Skud
asingh

for their contribution in getting this build together

PICS can be found in post #127 CLICK HERE

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After 2 months. New set up (after arrival of Razer Arctosa keyboard):
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Hi all, finally my parents agreed to buy a new PC and i would appreciate your help in getting my config in place:
>I thought i knew something about PCs but for the past month i have spent close to 20 hours reading about each component. So any advice is greatly appreciated as i am unable to decide for myself.

1. Purpose of the computer?
A: GAMING

2. Are you open to alternate ideas/products giving similar better performance but offering more VFM/ sellers? If not- why?
A: Yes

3. MAX budget?
A: 70k [60k for core system] (forget the rest)

4. Planning to overclock?
A: YES BUT NOT MUCH

5. OS A: Win 7 Home Premium OK?

6. HDD A: 1TB

7. Monitor A: Decided Dell U2311H @15k

8. How would you rate your hardware knowledge from the count of 1-10? (1 being the lowest, 5 being you are somewhat in sync with the current performers and 10 being the highest)
A: 4 Changed to 2

9. Have you ever built a desktop before or will this be done by an assembler?
A: Assembler I can assemble everything except the CPU on the mobo and installing an OS. Do u suggest i assemble it myself (for the first time)?

10. When are you planning to buy the system?
A: ASAP

11. Are you one of the types looking out for "future proof" configurations?
A: 2-3years

12. Are there going to be any components that you don't want to include in this new rig? If yes, do mention.
A: Monitor, KB, Mouse, UPS decided already. No speakers.

13. Which city do you live in and are you open to buying from shops from other city/states?
A: BANGALORE & online is fine

14.ADDITIONAL POINTS: (edit- 16/5)
~Pls no RAID array suggestions or SSDs.
~No plans for 3D
~Pls keep core system below 60k or 55k better
~No SLI or Crossfire

THIS IS WHAT I GOT WITH REAL WORLD PRICES (With poor bargaining skills)

NO DESCRIPTION MAKE & MODEL UNIT PRICE
1 PROCESSOR INTEL CORE i5 2500k 10395
2 MOTHERBOARD ASUS P8P67 PRO 12600
3 RAM G-SKILL RIPJAWS F3-12800CL9S-4GBRL 2625
4 GRAPHIC CARD SAPPHIRE HD6970 2GB 21000
5 HDD SEAGATE 1TB 7200.12 RPM 2625
6 DVD WRITTER SAMSUNG 22X SATA DVD 945
7 PSU COSAIR GS700 6300
8 CASE NZXT TEMPEST EVO 6300
9 MONITOR DELL ULTRASHARP U2311H 14323
10 MOUSE RAZER IMPERATOR 3150
11 KEYBOARD RAZER ARCTOSA 2158
12 MOUSE PAD STEELSERIES QCK 800
13 UPS APC 1.1KV 4500
14 OS MICROSOFT WINDOWS 7 Pending

TOTAL 87722

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Re: `GAM1NG PC @70k

You dont need to separate options.Get the best possible in your budget and OC that system.

my suggestion would be(core,with approximate prices):

Core i5 2500k @Rs. 11000
Asus P8p67 PRO @Rs.13000
G.Skill RipjawsX F3-12800CL9S-4GBRL @Rs.3500 (Add another for dual channel RAM and more space + performance if you want to)
MSI HD6970 Lightning @Rs.22000 (top of the line.Add another for crossfireX if you want more performance but much more cost

)
Corsair GS700 PSU @Rs.5500
Cooler Master HAF-912 Advanced @Rs.5000
Seagate Barracuda ST2000DL003 2TB SATA III HDD @Rs.5500
Corsair H70 CPU Cooler @Rs.6000
Sony AD-7260S-ZR SATA II ODD @Rs.1200

total = Rs.72700

If you are using a desktop right now that has SATA II or higher HDD and DVD ODD with enough Storage for your needs then you can shave off some money by reusing them.Thats what I have done on my new setup,no regret whatsoever.

I will be honest with you,the logitech G500 mouse at Rs.3500 is much better than the Razer imperator.Most people who buy Razer fall for marketing strategy.I know a few people across the world who will agree with me that Razer has worse build quality than logitech.A G110 keyboard for Rs.3500 (MRP 4500) is a better buy than arctosa.
I have had 2 G5s,a G700 and a G500 at home and I can say that the G500 kicks some serious butt.
Not saying all their products are bad tho,their deathadder was great in its time.

I hope you have decided on a 1.1kVA or higher UPS because you chose a 700W PSU.

You can switch your GFX card to a GTX 570 if you want.
Take a look at this review:
HIS Radeon HD 6970 2 GB Review - Page 7/33 | techPowerUp
Check out the game performances of the 6970 and the GTX 570 and decide for yourself which card you want.If GTX 570 it is then get the Palit GTX 570 Sonic Platinum
For your setup,either will be good enough for most games.

The GTX 570 has physx and 3DVision (needs 120hz monitor + nvidia glasses).For surround gaming you need 2 or more.
The HD 6970 has eyefinity and 3rd party 3D (single card can do it,although performance will be hit in 3D and eyefinity).

Good luck and keep us posted.

J

Re: `GAM1NG PC @70k

i would stick to seasonic 2ii 620w or corsair tx650v2. Corsair GS series is good, but it is not a top class product.

D

Re: `GAM1NG PC @70k

Proc-i7 2600k@16500
Mobo-Asus p8P67 pro@13000
Ram-2x2 gb kingston 1333GHz@2600
GPU-Sapphire HD 6970@21000
HDD-2x1TB WD caviar black raid 0@9000
OD-LG DVD RW@950 CABINET-CM 912 Advanced@5500
PSU-Corsair ps 850W@7600
Total 75k approx

u can make it to 70k by opting 2x1TBSeagate Barracuda 7200rpm
1TB:5500 rs

Re: `GAM1NG PC @70k

I will agree with Joker that the TX series is better.

but he wants this to last only 2 years so the GS700 is a better option.However dont get a PSU below 700W especially if you buy either card I listed.

J

Re: `GAM1NG PC @70k

Extreme Gamer said:
but he wants this to last only 2 years so the GS700 is a better option.However dont get a PSU below 700W especially if you buy either card I listed.

this doesnt make GS700 a better option. i would compare GS series models to a vx/tx series model 50w below it. corsair gs series is slightly overrated and uses non-japanese capacitors.

seasonic s12ii 620w or corsair tx650w (v2) is the way to go. plenty for the config u mentioned including hd 6970.

So for the PSU i should get either of these?
~SEASONIC S122II 620
~CORSAIR TX650 Buy Corsair | Buy Corsair 650W Power Supply | Corsair TX650W Power Supply

By 2 years i dont mean i will kill it after that. I hope it'll serve well for many years as the total cost is coming up to a very high price.

I would rather pay for more quality.

Pls suggest some more CPU-MOBO combos

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How about this PSU from seasonic? Seasonic 750W SS-750JS Power Supply

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Edited and updated the main post to clear suggestions about Raid, SSD and 3D apart from showing my desperation

J

no dont go for seasonic ss-750js.

see if you can find seasonic s12d 750w.

here it is:

seasonic s12ii 620w for 5.5k
corsair tx650 (v2) for 5.7k
seasonic s12d 750w for 6.3k

if u want a modular PSU...then

corsair hx620 for 6.3k
corsair hx650 for 6.6k

Theitdepot - Seasonic 620W PowerSupply (S12II-620) Out of stock

Will have to search more. If you can, pls provide links to any online sellers.

Sarath your best bet is to get a corsair TX750 V2 @ 7.5k or seasonic s12d 750w for 6.3k.

btw the GS700 has a 3 year warranty and the TX750 has 5 year warranty.

never skimp on PSU.get at least 700W.

I went all out and got AX-1200W PSU for my GTX 580 SLI setup

If you get the best PSU for your needs on the market,Get the Corsair AX-750 or HX-750.They have 80+ Gold rating with a 7 years performance warranty.I think it costs ~ 9k

^^ I agree on the that

add the H70 cooler and then its only slightly cheaper than my design,but a good choice

However I suggest you get 2TB HDD

Extreme OC to 4.5Ghz+ CPU and 1.1Ghz core GPU will need all the power they can get.

~~I wont be OCing. Sorry for all the confusion but i dont want to go throught the hassle. I cant devote so much time to tinker with the PC.~~

Please suggest a ~~non~~ k proc and a good mobo for a HD6970/GTX 570 equivalent.

Will get the UPS and monitor today hopefully.

if u are not going to overclock then u can consider the following config

The graphic card i have suggested is the single most powerfull card till date get it and u dont have 2 worry for the next 2-3 years

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Can you pls suggest a good motherboard to go with:

i5 2500
and a comparable i7 (model?)

game-freak said:
if u are not going to overclock then u can consider the following config

^^^are you refering to your signature?

sorry for late reply and i wasnt refering to the config in my signature was editing the above post check it out now the graphic card is the fastest till date

@sarath
go for gamefreak's 2nd config
and since you wont add another gfx card or do OCing, then there is no need of 700W+ PSU

as joker already mentioned
seasonic s12ii 620w for 5.5k
corsair tx650 (v2) for 5.7k
are enough

I dont think i will be able to spend so much on a gfx card. I was initially pondering over getting it for 15k and then decided to go up to 20k. Now thats the ceiling. Pls suggest accordingly and I suppose that beckons changes in the PSU also now.

you have two choices in 20k

HD 6970
GTX 570

both are good performers

Can you also give me a few options in mobo for i5 2500 as all might not be available locally.

Sarath,no offense but get the 2500k.Who knows,you may change your mind later?

and dont look at expense like that.if for the same amount of money you can get better GPU,go for it because it will be a lot better than 6970 at 1080p.

Stick to gamefreak's first design and change the GPU to theGTX 580 lightning edition.

i say get the 2500k because it comes with a better heatsink than the non-k model,and will cool the CPU better giving it longer lifetime.For 1k more its totally worth it.

So you are suggesting getting 2500k then. But then that,ll need betters ram also right for of and s z68 mono. I really cant get the gtx580 its way too expensive. My parents look into what I buy and my dads got a hell lot of software professionals under him who'll be quick to notice the extravagant expense. I also have a ps3 so this wont be my sole gaming machine. (getting this pc only for fps games and dota)

Okay so I get a 2500k ,hd6970, gskill ram,...a z68 mobo.

Ignore typos as im typing from my phone.

Z68 Express Roundup: Three Motherboards Do Battle Around $200 : Overclocking, Quick Sync, And SSD Caching

Software "professionals" are idiots when it comes to hardware.All they want to do is please your dad.

Dont take that sentence in the wrong meaning.I am referring to they people who assemble PCs and not actual software developers

Armed with facts you can show your dad that you are spending the same amount.

Do you think I got my setup with my own money?I am too young to earn (possibly about your age) and I did a lot of research for my first setup.This current PC (second setup for myself,4th in the family),which costs a lot more than double your budget was gotten because I promised my father I would be nice to it and make it last 5 years.
Promise your Dad you will make it last for three years.With overclocking you actually can-4.8Ghz is possible on H70.It wont take very long to OC.We can discuss via PM on this.

Arm yourself with facts.Tell your dad you are polarising (a bit) on one part,because you are still within budget.Before he gets the list "scrutinized" tell him everything truthfully.
If you can make him understand that you are getting best value within budget,and not exceeding it then you should be golden.Make him understand to look at whole product.not just one or 2 parts.
its like deciding a car is best because it has highest fuel efficiency.Handlin,transmission,acceleration,shock absorption be damned.

In a Sandy Bridge setup 1600Mhz RAM is fine.Get 8GB and you will never be disappointed.The ones I chose have best value.Z68 is good option.It has SSD caching,should you choose to add one later.However P67 is no slouch.SSD caching is unnecessary IMHO.Install OS on SSD for better performance really.Cost atm cannot be justified. When an 80GB performance MLC with latest sandforce controller will cost Rs.4500 then it will be worth it.

Those software guys pawned my last attempt at a gaming lappy. I have this bare bone HP dv6 thanks to them. So yeah. But he'll only refer to them if the price is too high.

Plus none of the budget or limitations have been put by my dad. Its all me. I have decided not to spend exorbitantly and get just the essentials. And 20k for a HD6970 for me was a lot more than mere essentials. I was looking at GTX560 Ti before that but i decided to upgrade it to 20k. I dont want to go any higher. I am happy if the system lets me play games at high res for 2years and med after that.

So i have fixed HD 6970.

Althought at your insistence and convincing skills

extreme gamer i have decided to take the jump and go for a k series proc.

Thanks everyone for suggestions

you are welcome.

promising build but I still stand by the GTX 580.After all I own 2

like i said before,dont give your dad a parts and price list.tell him everything.get all the data you can.try to make him understand that you have done hefty research before deciding.give him statistics,benchmarks.AND ask him for a budget and get back to us man.tell him he does not need software pros to tell him about hardware needs.i bet those retards are his buisiness accountants with tally/ace or something

and its pwned which stands for professionally owned lol and not pawned.

edit:whatever you do,do not LIE to him.

well i definitely cant tell him its a gaming rig. Its getting difficult to convince him. he wants to take all the parts himself.

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Searched for Binary world in Indiranagar. Didnt find it and was pretty much closed. Anyone bought from them?

Asked at compshop in brigade for dell monitor but unavailable again.

How is Intel DP67BG for mobo?

not a bad board but the p67 pro is much better.

Your parents are just like mine.Try to get a budget from him.
It took me a long time to convince my parents.Even had to work out a friggin compromise formula through negotiation.

and why cant you tell him it will be a gaming rig?

How about this?
GIGABYTE - Motherboard - Socket 1155 - GA-Z68X-UD3R-B3 (rev. 1.0)

Coming to cases: Considering the HD6970 is 274mm long> max space for gfx for cases are:
NZXT
Lexa S 28cms
Tempest Evo 33cms
Hades dunno?

Minor changes from game-freak's original config.

1) Why a K series processor?
Difference of price isn't much. It is worth going for a K series processor.

2) Why Asus P8P67 Pro? Should I wait for Z68 motherboards?
Quality motherboard with a lot of features. A quality processor should have a quality motherboard. Waiting for a Z68 motherboard is entirely your decision.

3) Regarding graphic card
Prefer HD 6970 2GB over GTX 570 reference models. GTX 570 reference models have problems with VRM. Performance/price ratio of both the cards is same.

4) Should I get GTX 580?
It is you who knows your requirements perfectly. If you feel you need more graphic horsepower, then get GTX 580. Otherwise HD 6970 2GB is enough.

5) Which power supply should I get?
If you are getting HD 6970 2GB, then a decent 650w power supply from Corsair and Seasonic is more than sufficient. (Seasonic S12II 620w and Corsair TX650v2)
If you want to get GTX 580, then get Seasonic S12D 750w or Corsair TX750v2.

Corsair GS series gets a NO from me. It is not their top-line product.

5) okay...I have decided upon HD 6970 2GB. Should I spend extra and get a 650w modular power supply?
If you ask me, modular power supplies save a lot of hassle. You can consider Corsair HX series. Joker has mentioned many PSU models for you to choose from.

6) What about the cabinet?
My suggestion would be NZXT Tempest Evo over CM HAF 922 - NZXT - Tempest EVO Product Detail
Both perform exactly the same though. You can't go wrong with any of them.

looks good(gigabyte is my brand of choice,then MSI then ASUS for mobo|MSI then Zotac and Palit rank 2nd and 3rd is asus).

however you need to know the price.But in my humble opinion the P67-UD5 (i think it was in 12-15k range) will be a more rock solid(i.e. stable on OC) mobo.SSD caching will be useless for you because SSDs will go way out of your budget and you have chosen it for gaming,which means the integrated graphics of sandy bridge will be unused anyway,not to mention your choice does not have a display output

I would like to say thanks to:
Extreme Gamer
Joker
Demon Lord
game-freak
nilgtx260
Piyush
ico
for helping me out with getting my rig right.

SL NO DESCRIPTION MAKE UNIT PRICE
1 PROCESSOR CORE i5 2500k INTEL 11000
2 MOTHERBOARD P9P67 PRO ASUS 12000
3 RAM F3-1066CL9S4GBRL G-SKILL RIPJAWS 5250
4 GRAPHIC CARD HD6970 2GB/HD 6970 LIGHTING SAPPHIRE/MSI 21000
5 HDD 1TB 7200.12 RPM SEAGATE 2730
6 DVD WRITTER 22X SATA DVD LG 945
7 PSU SeaSonic S12II 620 SEASONIC 6000
8 CASE LEXA S/TEMPEST EVO/ HADES NZXT ~6000
9 MOUSE IMPERATOR RAZER 3150
10 KEYBOARD ARCTOSA RAZER 2415
11 UPS 1.1KV APC 4725
12 DELL ULTRASHARP U2311H DELL 14324
13 WINDOWS 7 MICROSOFT 5650

TOTAL 95189

Wow.Your dad will agree to this?

nice man!

Very promising build and I look forward to you completing it.

Also:

1)make sure the parts are assembled at your house.
2)Keep all the boxes (you should for (a)more resale value (b)warranty purposes)
3)sit beside the builder and try to get an understanding of how to build it.if you will build it yourself, do some research first.

I look forward to seeing the finished setup and some pic+benchies

I am getting everything in a phased manner so my parents dont get overly suspicious. They dont know the budget yet but given proper reasons it shouldnt really freak them out.

Will get the monitor next. Have to catch hold of some techie guy to assemble my rig. I would obviously stare at every nut fixed. I have seen many videos and articles about assembling but i do not want to take a risk.

I would assemble a net top for downloading purposes if i ever have to.

And thanks extreme gamer for your enthusiasm. I am sure you are aware you changed my initial decision to not go for a k series proc.

^^ Get a z68 mobo instead of p67 mate. You get to use quicksync using lucid logix. It actually has all the benefits of a p67 and h67 combined. Don't forget ssd caching.

p67 makes no point now with the advent of z68.

i read about quick sync but got lost in all the details. Is it for rendering videos like converting and stuff?

Can you let me know in brief: what is it, Its application, whether it can be used despite dedicated gfx?

Also can you suggest me a good z68 mobo?

Quick sync basically uses the GPGPU(General Processing GPU) concept along with Intel's own optimization. There are certain software (mainly multimedia related like Video encodes) which can take advantage of the immense processing power of the GPU to accelerate the process. These kind of software can take advantage of both nVidia and AMD/ATI video cards.

But in Intel Sandy bridge processors as the IGP is integrated inside the CPU die, using Intel's quick sync technology it can offload the task to the integrated GPU in such a way that the CPU+IGP combine processing power provides high performance boost in those kind of applications.

It has been observed in a lot of reviews that if GPU accelerated software runs on Sandy Bridge CPUs by using IGP, it provides better performance than a Sandy Bridge + High power dedicated Graphics card.

However, quick-sync was initially only supported in H67 chipset based mobos if a dedicated graphics card is not installed and in P67 mobos it is not all supported as plugging a Sandy Bridge processor into it actually disables the integrated IGP.

Z68 will support best of the both world....it can still use Intel's quicksync even if a dedicated card is plugged, by using Lucid Logic sofware.

hmmm....thanks for the info Cilius. I think its wise for me to get a z68 mobo then. I was reading in the other threads that it isnt out yet. Not that i am in a hurry but i hope its not a few months in the coming.

Are there any boards available in India now?

Get These :

Core i5 2500K 10.5K
*Gigabyte Z68X-UD3R-B3 @ 10.2K
G.Skill Ripjaws X F3-12800CL9S-4GBRL @ 2.5k
Seagate 1 TB 7200.12 @ 2.7K
Samsung DVD RW Drive @ 0.9k
CM HAF 912 Avdanced @ 5.5k
MSI GTX 580 Twin Frozr II @ 27K
Corsair Tx650 @ ~5.5k

Total : 64.8k ;-)

BTW, for mobo if you can get this :
ASUS P8Z68-V PRO - price should be around ~11k

SSD caching FYI can put serious stress on SSDs.

Using MLCs with SSD caching is a no-no because they can get worn out quicker than in normal use.Intel's larson Creek SLC 20GB is built for this purpose and will be coming out soon.

And what is better?SSD running your OS or it caching bits of your Data?

It will give upto 40% boost in load times and running it directly off your SSD will be a lot faster than that.
Tell me,will you even use an SSD?

As for quicksync,you need supported software to make use of it.Only Cyberlink Media Espresso 6 and Arcsoft's media Converter 9 currently support it.
These are both paid software btw,and will you be using either?
Dont say things like P67 is useless now.Sure Z68 is better if you can utilize what it has.FYI AMD cards,although slower, do better quality transcode than Quicksync.

And change your PSU to corsair TX-650,and case to HAF 922.

Extreme Gamer said:
SSD caching FYI can put serious stress on SSDs.

Using MLCs with SSD caching is a no-no because they can get worn out quicker than in normal use.Intel's larson Creek SLC 20GB is built for this purpose and will be coming out soon.

And what is better?SSD running your OS or it caching bits of your Data?

It will give upto 40% boost in load times and running it directly off your SSD will be a lot faster than that.
Tell me,will you even use an SSD?

As for quicksync,you need supported software to make use of it.Only Cyberlink Media Espresso 6 and Arcsoft's media Converter 9 currently support it.
These are both paid software btw,and will you be using either?
Dont say things like P67 is useless now.Sure Z68 is better if you can utilize what it has.FYI AMD cards,although slower, do better quality transcode than Quicksync.

And change your PSU to corsair TX-650,and case to HAF 922.

Please justify the statement in bold?

P67 is indeed useless with the advent of z68. You can even overclock partially unlocked cpu's like the non k sandybridge processors marginally with the z68.

Using mlc ssd's won't result in wear and tear dear but lesser write performance as the cpu writes on both ssd and hdd simultaneously. Slc based ssd's have significantly higher write performance of around 105 mb/s as opposed to 45mb/s of the mlc's. A higher capacity slc based ssd can have the primary os as well as perform caching in the remainder space by intel's software. But slc based ssd's are expensive and have more price/gb.

J

it is more like this.

quicksync (very fast and very good quality) > ati/amd stream (slow but good quality) >> nvidia cuda (slow and bad quality)

source: anandtech sandy bridge review.

quicksync: *images.anandtech.com/reviews/cpu/intel/sandybridge/review/quicksync/quantumofsolace/quicksync.png
ati: *images.anandtech.com/reviews/cpu/intel/sandybridge/review/quicksync/quantumofsolace/6870.png
cuda: *images.anandtech.com/reviews/cpu/intel/sandybridge/review/quicksync/quantumofsolace/gtx460.png

quicksync: *images.anandtech.com/reviews/cpu/intel/sandybridge/review/quicksync/darkknight/quicksync.png
ati: *images.anandtech.com/reviews/cpu/intel/sandybridge/review/quicksync/darkknight/6870.png
cuda: *images.anandtech.com/reviews/cpu/intel/sandybridge/review/quicksync/darkknight/gtx460.png

As for quicksync,you need supported software to make use of it.Only Cyberlink Media Espresso 6 and Arcsoft's media Converter 9 currently support it.

How many times I have to tell you that quicksync is supported by tons of applications which support GPU acceleration. All the below mentioned software support Intel Quicksync:
Arcsoft MediaConverter*
Arcsoft MediaImpression*
Badaboom Media Converter*
Corel Digital Studio*
CyberLink MediaEspresso*
CyberLink PowerDirector*
MainConcept*
Movavi Video Converter*
Roxio Creator*

But the thing is Lucid Logic Virtue right now supports only the two mentioned software and with the others the switching between IGP and dedicated GPU will not work. If no dedicated GPU is plugged then all the software I've mentioned will take advantage of Quicksync.

Now the Lucid Logic virtue is only couple of months old and within next couple of months the number of supported software will be increased in large extent.

Joker said:
it is more like this.

quicksync (very fast and very good quality) > ati/amd stream (slow but good quality) >> nvidia cuda (slow and bad quality)

source: anandtech sandy bridge review.

quicksync: *images.anandtech.com/reviews/cpu/intel/sandybridge/review/quicksync/quantumofsolace/quicksync.png
ati: *images.anandtech.com/reviews/cpu/intel/sandybridge/review/quicksync/quantumofsolace/6870.png
cuda: *images.anandtech.com/reviews/cpu/intel/sandybridge/review/quicksync/quantumofsolace/gtx460.png

quicksync: *images.anandtech.com/reviews/cpu/intel/sandybridge/review/quicksync/darkknight/quicksync.png
ati: *images.anandtech.com/reviews/cpu/intel/sandybridge/review/quicksync/darkknight/6870.png
cuda: *images.anandtech.com/reviews/cpu/intel/sandybridge/review/quicksync/darkknight/gtx460.png

Thanks joker :smile:

. This will make sure that the statement in bold is not justified :wink:

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@ cilus

Thanks for the info buddy. This will make z68 look even sweeter than p67. The latter truly does not make any sense now.

With Z68 boards are on the horizon and available in less than 11K with multi GPU support and all the other features, there is simply no point in going for a P67 mobo.

Tell me,will you even use an SSD?

What the hell is this? Obviously anyone can add a 32 GB/ 40 GB SSD to their system in near future and get almost four time more performance than a standard HDD.

The justification is that when you cache data,you do read and write operations.the data will be stored on the SSD (a bit similar to how prefetch works), and after some time it will be erased and new data will be stored.i say it will put stress on your SSD because i mean that it will do more read/write operations than your regular usage as an OS/app drive and thus cause it to reach its limit faster.

I do not mean to say to not use SSD caching.Rather Im saying that do it with SLC SSDs and not MLCs which have a far lower MTBF and read/write capacity than SLCs.Which is why I pointed out that Intel's larson Creek 34nm 20GB SLCs are coming out in a couple of months,and they have been especially designed for caching,and will possibly be cheaper too.

quicksync (very fast and very good quality) > ati/amd stream (slow but good quality) >> nvidia cuda (slow and bad quality)

as far as this is concerned it is more like this(with signs in ranking of speed):

Quicksync (very fast but good quality)>CUDA (fast but poor quality)>ATI stream[or was it firestream?](slow but very good quality)

FYI joker I had gone through that review before posting my statements about quicksync.

*images.anandtech.com/reviews/cpu/intel/sandybridge/review/quicksync/quantumofsolace/quicksync.jpg

The image quality story is about the same for AMD’s GPUs and the x86 path, however Quick Sync delivers a noticeably worse quality image. It’s no where near as bad as the GTX 460, but it’s just not as sharp as what you get from the software or ATI Stream codepaths.

The problem here seems to be that when transcoding from a lower quality source, the tradeoffs NVIDIA makes are amplified. Even Quick Sync isn’t perfect here. I’d say Quick Sync is closer to the pure x86 path than CUDA. Given the tremendous performance advantage I’d say the tradeoff is probably worth it in this case.

Also,Image quality is quite subjective.To be honest I like my pictures to have smoother appearance and colour fidelity can go down I bit,I dont mind.
As far as the software is concerned,I was not aware that other software would support quicksync within the 1.5 months time gap there has been between the article and my statement.So i admit that statement to be void now.

I thought i clicked on a wrong thread seeing all the discussion about quick sync and SSD caching.

However i read about both in tomshardware.com
SSD caching doesnt seem to show many benifits. Even if it does it doesnt justify the cost.
Plus i wont be getting an SSD for a really long time.

And for someone who does a little bit of editing of home videos i think quick sync might help. I may or may not buy a software for the same. I would buy a good 2k video editing software however since we have a huge collection of videos yet to be burned and edited. I think i might have use for it.

For now i think both Z68 and P67 seem to be similar if you dont care about quick sync and SSD caching.

Any other benifit of a Z68 over P67? Apart from the Z68=H67+P67 one.

i am inclined towards getting the Z68 though.

Thats what I said.While the Z68 is definitely better, P67 is not bad.

Also on what basis are you vickybat saying that Z68 allows for more overclocking?

The basic architecture of the chipset has not changed.It is still connected to single BCLK for the whole platform.
Maybe we will see a sturdier chip,but thats about it.More than the chip itself,its the board that gets damaged on BCLK OCing.So i dont see how you can say that better OC will be allowed.You could OC non-k processors in P67 in the same way as in Z68,if thats what you mean by "partially unlocked".It was the H67 where you could not OC at all.

^^ Yup p67 does allow limited overclocking through 4 bins and an increment of 400mhz. We are not saying p67 is bad but doesn't make any sense now. z68 is the board to go for and this is what p67 should have been right from the start. Quicksync is simply too good to resist and ssd caching is simply an icing in the cake. Performance users will forget p67 in the coming time.

About ssd caching, using the mlc path, there will be slower write performance because the write operation will be done simultaneously on the ssd and hdd. Slc based ssd's aren't cheap (higher price/gb) but has almost twice the write performance. Its still faster overall.

About wear and tear during write operations, ssd's have no mechanical moving parts inside (just nand flash chips). So it can sustain many write operations. This has never been a drawback in ssd's. Therefore its the perfect candidate for caching purposes and staying close to the cpu.

@ Sarath

Get the z68 eyes closed in the same pricepoint as p67. Apart from ssd caching & quicksync, there are no differences. But those two are really the difference maker.

In MLCs it has been a draw back.By wear and tear,as I specified before, I meant that it will reach its read/write limit quicker vs standard use.SLCs are more robust.

Did you not see my mention of Larson Creek?these will be more affordable 20GB SLCs in the 34nm node designed especially for SSD caching.

And remember,the P series never had display capabilities in any generation.

The Z68 probably came to put that GPU to use in the performance lineup.

Extreme Gamer said:
In MLCs it has been a draw back.By wear and tear,as I specified before, I meant that it will reach its read/write limit quicker vs standard use.SLCs are more robust.

Did you not see my mention of Larson Creek?these will be more affordable 20GB SLCs in the 34nm node designed especially for SSD caching.

We need some justification again on the bold lines. Could you provide some links to back your words?

I have read about larson creek and it has higher price/gb as compared to standard mlc ssd's. A 20gb larson creek was $100 whereas a 80gb mlc was $100. So i guess you understood what i meant by price/gb?

yes.but at least you can afford it vs higher capacity SLCs which have higher price/gb?

i said more affordable than other SLCs not MLCs per gb.

Simply put SLCs are better and more reliable cells so they have a higher read/write count and MTBF.

*en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid_State_Disk#Single-level_cell_.28SLC.29_vs_multi-level_cell_.28MLC.29

Lower priced drives usually use multi-level cell (MLC) flash memory, which is slower and less reliable than single-level cell (SLC) flash memory.[28][29] This can be mitigated or even reversed by the internal design structure of the SSD, such as interleaving, changes to writing algorithms,[29] and higher over-provisioning (more excess capacity) with which the wear-leveling algorithms can work.[30][31][32]

Hmm...okay i will be getting the z68 if such a board is available now.
I think SSDs of any type are just too expensive now. I think its wise to wait for price drops in the coming months (years?).

vickybat & Extreme Gamer thanks for the clarifications. Its only fair to get something with more features at the same price point. One can never say when it might just be useful.

extreme gamer. I see you have a ultra high end rig; have you got SSDs in your rig?

nopes.

Im reusing my old HDDs lol

They are fast enough for me.

lol and you are recommending an SSD to me
they are kinda expensive. Its like HDDs all over again.
My first one was 40GB
now SSDs come in 20and 40GB that we can hope to buy.

I am trying to complete the rig by this saturday. Hope everything goes smoothly.

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This is sweet; finally i have peace; here goes:

SL NO DESCRIPTION MAKE MODEL UNIT PRICE
1 PROCESSOR INTEL CORE i5 2500k 11000
2 MOTHERBOARD ASUS P8Z68-V PRO 12000
3 RAM G-SKILL RIPJAWS F3-1066CL9S4GBRL 2pcs 5250
4 GRAPHIC CARD SAPPHIRE/MSI HD6970 2GB 21000
5 HDD SEAGATE 1TB 7200.12 RPM 2730
6 DVD WRITTER LG 22X SATA DVD 945
7 PSU SEASONIC S12II 621 6000
8 CASE NZXT TEMPEST EVO/ HADES 6000
9 MOUSE RAZER IMPERATOR 3150
10 KEYBOARD RAZER ARCTOSA 2200
11 UPS APC 1.1KV 4725
12 MONITOR DELL ULTRASHARP U2311H 14324
13 OS MICROSOFT WINDOWS 7 5650

TOTAL 94974

^^ Go for a beefier psu mate since you want to xfire 69702gb in future. Go for a 750w psu from seasonic or corsair.

Have a look at this:

Seasonic 750W S12D-750 80+ Silver Certification Power Supply @ 6.6k

Its available at techshop.in.

That was what i was going to get initially but since i wont be going for SLI in the future i dont think thats necessary.

I put up the same link from techshop.in sometime back.

^^ if you are going to use only a single gfx card then get MSi GTX 580 TWin Frozr II but if you want to CF ( in the future ) then HD6970 is the right choice.

he said his dad will find ~30k on a GPU too expensive.

but get the lightning 6970.

for 6k it is better to get the cooler master HAF 922.

and i was never recommending SSDs.I merely pointed out that more affordable SLCs are coming in price/gb vs currently available SLCs.

btw you can get SSDs as high in capacity as 1024GB.but those are over-the-top expensive SLCs with 3000$ and higher price tags.
MLCs are available upto 512GB.but these are also VERY expensive.

It's either NZXT Tempest Evo or CM Haf 922 for 6k.

NZXT Hades is a 4.5k cabinet.

6k is what i am willing to spend. I didnt know the price of hades so it seems all good till now.

ico said:
It's either NZXT Tempest Evo or CM Haf 922 for 6k.

NZXT Hades is a 4.5k cabinet.

Ok i think i will take a 750W seasonic. you never know when you need the extra horse power and also the prices might come down by then for the gfx card.

Am i safe in assuming that the PSU will not be drawing 750W at all times and only what is required by the system.

Eg: A system needing 400W has a 650W and a 750W PSU. Now the power consumption by both will be the same right?

yes.maybe differ by a few watts but more or less the same,especially if they are from same series.

Get the HAF 912 or 922.You will not regret it.

I have HAF X,2x 932 and 912 at home and love each of them.

I have no issues with them (HAF) but as i mentioned i am not the only one making the choices.

I will see whats available and pic one. That is why i have kept the choice of CASES open as it is quite subjective.

^^ which thing of HAF is not good?

looks. its fine but the russian tank like design doesnt sit well with the decor of my home and the tastes of other member of my house.
Especially after seeing much better looking cases like phantom. and the lexa s which i have ruled out due to cramped interior (for HD6970).

well you are not going to keep your PC as the main decor in your house are you?

keep your PC private in your room.

you probably wont believe it,the room in which my PC is kept actually has pink walls!

lol at that but lets put the matter to rest now.

I am surprised i did not ask this until now but will the HD6970 run all games at 1080p resolution with good frame rates?

My first purchase after getting this rig would be Crysis 2

yes HD6970 will run all the games at highest resolution and with good frame rates u can check out the benchmarks CLICK HERE

@Sarath: if Gaming is the one & only requirement, then why not a X-Box 360 or PS3. Just a query from your requirement list.

Extreme Gamer said:
he said his dad will find ~30k on a GPU too expensive.

but get the lightning 6970.

for 6k it is better to get the cooler master HAF 922.

and i was never recommending SSDs.I merely pointed out that more affordable SLCs are coming in price/gb vs currently available SLCs.

btw you can get SSDs as high in capacity as 1024GB.but those are over-the-top expensive SLCs with 3000$ and higher price tags.
MLCs are available upto 512GB.but these are also VERY expensive.

MSI GTX 580 Twin Frozr II is 27k and if he mention it to his dad as the world's most fastest single GPU till date his dad may change his mind and let him have this world's fastest gpu ;-)

^^^thanks for the link game-freak

[I feel there were many other posts after this. Did they just disappear or get deleted. All i remember was reading a few such posts:

>If gaming is what you want get a Xbox or PS3

>And Another tell your dad that GTX580 is the fastest gfx card tell him its only 27k

cant remember more.

Oh there they are. This is weird. Either i saw the future or some error on getting new posts.

@d3p5kor i already own a PS3. I just want a pc for all the fps and strategy games.

@topgear hmm thats a difficult proposition. If he knows that there is even a gfx card in the system he will get it removed. Telling him stuff like that is like an abortion for my PC.

oh dont i know that feeling sarath! dont tell him the price of the card.tell him you are getting it in a mobo+cpu+gpu bundle

The very reason the PC is getting delayed is coz of how much i play. I am getting this at the pretext of my brothers needs for his CSE course.

They dont really know which ones the CPU mobo and gfx so yeah as u said thats what i was planning to do. I am getting everything else before that to make sure i pull it off well.

CSE?as in computer science entrance or what?

whats that?sorry for dumb question.

get the "bundle" first

.it will be hard to pull off once your dad knows the price range of the rest of the parts.
any person in your family senior to your dad that you can actually convince?they could ask your dad to agree lol.i know my grandparents can

make sure its the HAF 912 you get.those things look very good.very neat,clean and right for your setup specs.922 is more tank like so im not recommending it to you.
take my word,you will love th 912.

given your budget,or else i would have recommended lian li cases to you.
elegance at its best.

CSE=Computer Sciences Engineering according to my limited knowledge.

Its not that difficult. He works elsewhere. I have to go pick the parts myself. So its all good.

I will choose the case at the shop itself. I dont want to go with a fixed mind and then fret at no stock. I will consider the HAF you mentioned.

Nvidia GTX 580 supports PhysX and CUDA - which is a great boon for developers and tell your dad that it will help a lot in CSE and I'm sure he will let you have one GTX 580 ;-)

here where they are used other than in games :

usages of physX

> Autodesk 3ds Max, Autodesk Maya and Autodesk Softimage, computer animation suites
> DarkBASIC Professional (with DarkPHYSICS upgrade), a programming language targeted at game development
> DX Studio, an integrated development environment for creating interactive 3D graphics
> Microsoft Robotics Studio, an environment for robot control and simulation[35]
> Nvidia SuperSonic Sled and Raging Rapids Ride, technology demos
> OGRE (via the NxOgre wrapper), an open source rendering engine
> The Physics Abstraction Layer, a physical simulation API abstraction system (it provides COLLADA and Scythe Physics Editor support for PhysX)

usages of CUDA

> The Search for Extra-Terrestrial Intelligence (SETI@Home)
> Accelerated rendering of 3D graphics
> Real Time Cloth Simulation OptiTex.com - Real Time Cloth Simulation
> Distributed Calculations, such as predicting the native conformation of proteins
> Medical analysis simulations, for example virtual reality based on CT and MRI scan images.
> Physical simulations, in particular in fluid dynamics.
> Environment statistics
> Accelerated encryption, decryption and compression
> Accelerated interconversion of video file formats

source : 1, 2

For cabinet as I said earlier get CM HAF 912 Advanced ( asia ) model @ 5.5k - nothing beats it at that price point.

Actually he knows nothing about the gfx and all. As i said if he knows about it he'll most likely refer it to the techies working under him who will be quick to point out the splurge i am making.

Also i have said that 20k is the limit i myself set for the rig. I dont really need something so powerful even if i can.
I play on my PS3 which has got a ~~6000~~7000series nvidia gfx. I am not getting into the cell proc part. But see this is a much larger jump from it.
Plus the game i play most of the time Dota (Warcraft 3 expansion) has mearge requirements.

Thanks for the exhaustive list though. I will see if i can make any last minute stretch in the budget.

Corrected

the PS3 has a 7800GS actually.

Sarath said:
Actually he knows nothing about the gfx and all. As i said if he knows about it he'll most likely refer it to the techies working under him who will be quick to point out the splurge i am making.

Also i have said that 20k is the limit i myself set for the rig. I dont really need something so powerful even if i can.
I play on my PS3 which has got a ~~6000~~7000series nvidia gfx. I am not getting into the cell proc part. But see this is a much larger jump from it.
Plus the game i play most of the time Dota (Warcraft 3 expansion) has mearge requirements.

Thanks for the exhaustive list though. I will see if i can make any last minute stretch in the budget.

Corrected

Ok - got your point and if you can stretch the budget it's worth the extra money you pay for it.

Guys i want to ask a few final questions as i am most likely to get the parts tomorrow.
Pls answer them. They are very vital for my purchase:

1. Motherboard for i5 2500k: I know a z68 by Asus or Gigabyte is good but if I dont find it then is the Asus P8P67 Pro a good alternative (I know diff btw z68 & P67) Or should I get the z68 online? In which case pls post a link where its available. [PLZ ANSWER MOST IMPORTANT]

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2. PSU: Should i stick to just Seasonic S11D 620W/ Cosair TX650v2 or any more similar alternatives. I am looking at ordering online from techshop.in if i dont find it locally.

3. RAM: Are G.skill ripjaws 4GB 1600mhz as good as Cosair vengeance 4GB the mention of which i saw in some other posts? (i dont know much about either) (just in case i dont find gskill)

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Minor Ques:

4. UPS: What is auto shutdown feature seen in APC 1KVA @5.5k. Is it useful as i am planning on getting the APC 1.1KVA w/o the software

5.OS: Is Win 7 Home Premium good or should i get Proffessional or Ultimate. I am not sure about the added benifits of the same.

Thanks in advance

Bought the Dell U2311H IPS monitor today for Rs.14323/- from Binary World

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Selection is good, also Z68 by Gigabyte same as P67 as it do not support video output or virtu, asus does but it will launch next month.

Auto shutdown means the computer will shutdown when it detects the battery power becoming low(a cable will be connected between ups and pc usb port), like laptop, useful if you are not around to shut the pc off.

Get Win7 professional, ultimate is just a gimmick.

thanks for that i think i need win proffesional atleast for the xp part.

Extreme Gamer said:
the PS3 has a 7800GS actually.

Nope, the rsx is basically a 6800gs in sli.

J

extreme gamer is correct. RSX is actually a tweaked g70 chip. (nvidia 7800)

In terms of performance it is equal to sli between to nvidia 6800.

^^ PS3 has NV47 chip and GTX 7800 series is based on it - so which gfx chip PS3 has - go figure ;-)

@ Sarath - as your primary need is gaming you can go for P67 mobo if you can't find any z68 mobo.

Corsair vengeance is good and can be bought instead of g-skill.

Stick with Corsair Tx 650 V2 and for windows I've used win vista and win 7 home premium and it's enough for gaming ;-)

J

Nvidia G70 = NV47 = GeForce 7800: 8 geometry engines | 24 pixel pipes | 302 million transistors

^^
You forgot what the CPU of the PS3 is. Extremely optimized machine for gaming.

@ OP, Get a P67 ..good chipset. Rest is all fine.

Indeed,if you can avoid it, get a motherboard from a retail store.

RAM I would not mind so much because they are more impact resistant due to small size and heatspreaders "protecting" them.

Corsair vengeance is a good option,but try to get 1.5v kit.

I have heard of 1.65v kits damaging SB mobos.

i could not find G.Skill in Kolkata else I would've gone for RipjawsX instead of Dom GT which I actually ordered from Amazon lol(do the math-16k including AFPro vs 23k here without AFPro).

Yes the cell can render objects more like vertex shading. It offloads a lot of gpu based tasks. So the rsx does not have to do everything as far rendering is concerned.

That is the beauty of ps3.

and so it manages to give more performance at same image quality as XBOX with technically a weaker GPU.

Extreme Gamer said:
Indeed,if you can avoid it, get a motherboard from a retail store.

RAM I would not mind so much because they are more impact resistant due to small size and heatspreaders "protecting" them.

Corsair vengeance is a good option,but try to get 1.5v kit.

I have heard of 1.65v kits damaging SB mobos.

i could not find G.Skill in Kolkata else I would've gone for RipjawsX instead of Dom GT which I actually ordered from Amazon lol(do the math-16k including AFPro vs 23k here without AFPro).

And warranty? Will you get warranty for the doms here?

yes I will.

Extreme Gamer said:
yes I will.

Is that confirmed? Last I heard you can't get rma for products not bought in India and afaik Kaizen do not give rma to such products....

Well I can do RMA directly.I have contacted tech support once.

I almost did it when I could not reach 2Ghz,turned out my QPI was hating me.

Bought everything except the OS. Scavenged my wallet to pay for the UPS in the end.

so your dad agreed and everything?

Get yourself Win 7 home premium retail for ~5-6k max

install 64-bit copy.

Yeah i was about to ask why 64bit?

He did not completely. Got everything through Mom.

Looks like the Win copy will be out of my pocket

With 32-bit OS, you can't use 4GB RAM. That's why 64-bit. It's time to move on too. 95% 32-bit applications would work fine with x86_64 processors like yours.

yeah actually at the time of typing this and reading plenty articles by googling i have realised 64bit is the way to go.

Esp the one line: Crysis runs better in 64bit

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Have got everything except the mouse and keyboard. Damn! Never will order online again.
Now i am stuck with this PC with no mouse no KB and no OS

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buying el cheapo KB tomorrow for the time being as primeabgb has no stock of silver arctosa.
And letsbuy totally forgot about my order and shipped it only after mailing them for the 3rd time.
15th- your order has been confirmed and will be shipped
24th- your order is being shipped! WHAT THE...

nows your chance to get the G11 man.

its better than arctosa.get the G500 mouse.

edit

h wait you already ordered sry

Here's what I got. Editing my first post to post the same. Will post pics soon. Maybe tomorrow or day after.

NO DESCRIPTION MAKE & MODEL UNIT PRICE
1 PROCESSOR INTEL CORE i5 2500k 10395
2 MOTHERBOARD ASUS P8P67 PRO(oops!) 12600
3 RAM G-SKILL RIPJAWS F3-12800CL9S-4GBRL 2625
4 GRAPHIC CARD SAPPHIRE HD6970 2GB 21000
5 HDD SEAGATE 1TB 7200.12 RPM 2625
6 DVD WRITTER SAMSUNG 22X SATA DVD 945
7 PSU COSAIR GS700 6300
8 CASE NZXT TEMPEST EVO 6300
9 MONITOR DELL ULTRASHARP U2311H 14323
10 MOUSE RAZER IMPERATOR 3150
11 KEYBOARD RAZER ARCTOSA 2158
12 MOUSE PAD STEELSERIES QCK 800
13 UPS APC 1.1KV 4500
14 OS MICROSOFT WINDOWS 7 Pending

TOTAL 87722

Congrats.

but sigh, Corsair GS700. And especially at that price. Should have gone for Corsair TX650v2.

Corsair GS700. Good enough? yes. One of the best? No.

you must be joking.1066mhz RAM?

I had no choice. I thought of getting it online but seeing how fast their delivery is (fast=weeks) i wasnt willing to wait for that long.

I searched a bit for the seasonic ones and the tx but they were unavailable. I hope this does the job.

Also was in two minds about the samsung dvdrw but finally gave in as i was too tired to scout more.

WHAT! WAIT I WILL CHECK THE RAM!!!

dude get 1600mhz minimum single 4GB stick

typo thank god: its F3-12800CL9S-4GBRL so thats 1600mhz

phew!

yeah you had me going there for a while lol.

Corsair Gs700 is way to costly, i got it @Rs 4950+vat.

Okay now that is bad news. Well nothing can be done about it now. I will have to live with it.

hell its just a grand.if he can spend ~85k+ I dont think it will kill him.

Its a great PSU anyway.

Extreme Gamer said:
hell its just a grand.if he can spend ~85k+ I dont think it will kill him.

Its a great PSU anyway.

It's not like that.He is spending hard earned money.I think you can't find anyone in the world who like to give the price higher than the market price.I know that he can't do anything now.But for the future deal he will be alerted about that dealer

Asus P8Z68? Where the hell did you get that and at that price? Do you mean P8P67 pro?

Any news about P8Z68 v pro? And nice purchase btw, enjoy with crysis.

Sarath said:
Here's what I got. Editing my first post to post the same. Will post pics soon. Maybe tomorrow or day after.

NO DESCRIPTION MAKE & MODEL UNIT PRICE
1 PROCESSOR INTEL CORE i5 2500k 10395
2 MOTHERBOARD ASUS P8Z68 PRO 12600
3 RAM G-SKILL RIPJAWS F3-12800CL9S-4GBRL 2625
4 GRAPHIC CARD SAPPHIRE HD6970 2GB 21000
5 HDD SEAGATE 1TB 7200.12 RPM 2625
6 DVD WRITTER SAMSUNG 22X SATA DVD 945
7 PSU COSAIR GS700 6300
8 CASE NZXT TEMPEST EVO 6300
9 MONITOR DELL ULTRASHARP U2311H 14323
10 MOUSE RAZER IMPERATOR 3150
11 KEYBOARD RAZER ARCTOSA 2158
12 MOUSE PAD STEELSERIES QCK 800
13 UPS APC 1.1KV 4500
14 OS MICROSOFT WINDOWS 7 Pending

TOTAL 87722

Congrats ! you should have got the corsair TX650V2 and it's only ~5.5k.

BTW, can you post some nice Pics now ;-)

It's not like that.He is spending hard earned money.I think you can't find anyone in the world who like to give the price higher than the market price.I know that he can't do anything now.But for the future deal he will be alerted about that dealer

Ofcourse I know its hard earned money!

But my point was that compared to total cost its only a small amount and now that the deed is done there will be no point in fretting about it

@topgear:he mentioned in a previous post that he searched for the seasonics and TX series but couldnt find it

Sarath said:
Here's what I got. Editing my first post to post the same. Will post pics soon. Maybe tomorrow or day after.

NO DESCRIPTION MAKE & MODEL UNIT PRICE
1 PROCESSOR INTEL CORE i5 2500k 10395
2 MOTHERBOARD ASUS P8Z68 PRO 12600
3 RAM G-SKILL RIPJAWS F3-12800CL9S-4GBRL 2625
4 GRAPHIC CARD SAPPHIRE HD6970 2GB 21000
5 HDD SEAGATE 1TB 7200.12 RPM 2625
6 DVD WRITTER SAMSUNG 22X SATA DVD 945
7 PSU COSAIR GS700 6300
8 CASE NZXT TEMPEST EVO 6300
9 MONITOR DELL ULTRASHARP U2311H 14323
10 MOUSE RAZER IMPERATOR 3150
11 KEYBOARD RAZER ARCTOSA 2158
12 MOUSE PAD STEELSERIES QCK 800
13 UPS APC 1.1KV 4500
14 OS MICROSOFT WINDOWS 7 Pending

TOTAL 87722

Nice purchase. Congrats! Please post some pics. And if you can some benchmark results.

Please post where did you get the Asus Z68 mobo, I need it bad, the vpro model.

oh another typo :shock:

Its asus p8p67 pro not a z68.
Sorry for getting your heartbeat racing.

Golchha said it'll be here (Bangalore) next month

God damn luck, nice rig anyway, the mobo price was killer. Enjoy ur rig, when can we see some pics?

Sarath said:
oh another typo
Its asus p8p67 pro not a z68.
Sorry for getting your heartbeat racing.

Golchha said it'll be here (Bangalore) next month

U should be shot down for being so high flying having bought the new system...and causing so many of us a cardiac arrest(read the GS700 issue) or extreme mental agony(read P8Z68 issue)

On a serious note....Congos buddy

tkin said:
God damn luck, nice rig anyway, the mobo price was killer. Enjoy ur rig, when can we see some pics?

yes...PICS!!!!!

Pics will come around mid night. Going out to get a keyboard now. No point waiting for the Artosa from primeabgb (Sir we'll have the silver artosa after 20days. Me: :banghead:

Sarath said:
Pics will come around mid night. Going out to get a keyboard now. No point waiting for the Artosa from primeabgb (Sir we'll have the silver artosa after 20days. Me:

Yea...their 1/2/3 weeks never seem to end

Waiting for pics...

Thread cleaned up.

Finished installing all drivers and set up.

Need to install antivirus:
Should i get free one? (which AVG/ Avast/ etc)
Take a license for Kapersky from a friend who bought 3licenses instead of one? (paid 1200/3=Rs.400) maybe free too.

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PICS ON THE WAY.

Dont know whats cleaned up. The first post i saw after coming was thread cleaned up. Looks like again some discussion was going on here. Sometimes i myself forget this is my thread to build a new PC.
[In fact the discussion about Lucid Pro was so much that I actually reloaded this thread 3 times before realising that i am indeed on the right one]

^^ if the OP is done with his purchase & satisfied under his territory, then why not lock the thread.

Extreme Gamer said:
@topgear:he mentioned in a previous post that he searched for the seasonics and TX series but couldnt find it

Ooooops ! I overlooked that part ;-)

Seeing soo much offtopic discussion I'm closing down this thread.

@ Sarath - when you are ready to post the pictures just PM any mod.

PIC PICS PICS

1.Completely cannibalised my Study Table (which is actually a big office table)
*i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc480/sarathmay3/DSC00078.jpg

2.In Dark
*i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc480/sarathmay3/DSC00080.jpg

3.18+
*i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc480/sarathmay3/DSC_0165.jpg

4
*i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc480/sarathmay3/DSC_0166.jpg

5.Twin rotor (doesnt fly)
*i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc480/sarathmay3/DSC_0170.jpg

6.Last Pic
*i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc480/sarathmay3/DSC00079a.jpg

^^ looks awesome and the beauty of the cabinet is just unexplainable .

BTW, what are those sound cans ?? looks good but black would have a perfect match with your setup ;-)

lol those are for skype. Some logitech ones i got for 1.2k not great but without speakers they do a fine job.

Looking at some gaming headsets but since I also equally listen to music I think I will get normal cans. Senn H515 maybe.

and yeah thanks

@Sarath

Awesome man, simply awesome!!!

OMG, nice pics and awesome cabby, looks uber cool, enjoy.

OMG those are some of the worst cable management ive seen!.

is that a standard i5 2500?

thanks guys. Yeah i know the cable management is bad I cant do much about it. thats a k series proc.

P.S. Mom took away the keyboard. typing this from some weird software on my android phone. but its cool.

Sarath said:
P.S. Mom took away the keyboard. typing this from some weird software on my android phone. but its cool.

Why??? Were you gaming too much or was just rooted to your PC?

Yeah. Crysis 2 and COD. Looks like my PC only wants to game. Its falling apart when doing everything else.

*www.thinkdigit.com/forum/software-q/141496-weird-chrome-brower-problem.html#post1408330

can you verify via CPU-Z that you havent been cheated? the HSF appears different to me.

*www.anandtech.com/show/4083

he was not cheated, that's the cooler that ships with all intel sandys, anand had the sandy non retail package and lacked the cooler, so he used the cooler from 980/990x proccy, i think i saw him mention that in the article.

tkin said:
he was not cheated, that's the cooler that ships with all intel sandys, anand had the sandy non retail package and lacked the cooler, so he used the cooler from 980/990x proccy, i think i saw him mention that in the article.

Yeah...thats an open secret for sooo looong...

@sarath Nice rig u got there bro!

You just gave me a heart attack dude. He opened it right in front of me and its a i5 2500k proc and cooler.

This looker cooler. You almost broke my heart.
*images.anandtech.com/reviews/cpu/intel/sandybridge/review/_DSC7051sm.jpg

Also I am having problems with my new 3k imperator. No ones replying on my thread. Help me in this
*www.thinkdigit.com/forum/peripherals/141438-new-mouse-problem.html

I was not aware of that.

I was aware that k and non k shipped with different coolers.

maybe its only in 2600.

Extreme Gamer said:
I was not aware of that.

I was aware that k and non k shipped with different coolers.

maybe its only in 2600.

No, all sandy including 2600k come with basic cooler, that hsf is for 980x/990x only.

hmm.

alright.

R

Sarath said:
PIC PICS PICS

1.Completely cannibalised my Study Table (which is actually a big office table)
*i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc480/sarathmay3/DSC00078.jpg

2.In Dark
*i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc480/sarathmay3/DSC00080.jpg

3.18+
*i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc480/sarathmay3/DSC_0165.jpg

4
*i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc480/sarathmay3/DSC_0166.jpg

5.Twin rotor (doesnt fly)
*i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc480/sarathmay3/DSC_0170.jpg

6.Last Pic
*i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc480/sarathmay3/DSC00079a.jpg

VERRY NIce :razz:

Enjoy GAMING !!!
Sarath , how much did the Win-7 HP cost???

Right now have a trial version of win 7 copy. whats hp?

the built cost me around 85k

thanks

Home Premium.

ok i feel stupid now. saving up for original os 5.5k. will get ubuntu soon.

From what I am seeing at my workplace, 64-bit Ubuntu has better hardware support compared to Win 7 Pro. And this is with version 10.04 LTS. :shock:

Mac OS X Snow Leopard is also good

No idea, but with the Unix base it should be.

Snow leopard will not be easy to hack into his setup.

I totally overlooked this aspect. When I install ubuntu which i will as soon as i figure it out and have time, what about the drivers?

Will everything work with ubuntu too? The gfx, the printer etc etc. Do i have to check for linux drivers for them?

I have absolutely no interest in OSX

Everything will work out-of-the-box in Ubuntu with no driver installation required. Even desktop effects will run fine out-of-the-box because you have an AMD card and AMD cards have great open source driver which is sponsored by AMD themselves and ships with Ubuntu. Not so for nVidia.

You can also install proprietary/restricted AMD driver in Ubuntu. (recommended) It is only two clicks away.

Liverpool_fan said:
For restricted drivers for hardware which doesn't work out of the box -
*i.imgur.com/kkOczl.jpg

Skud said:
From what I am seeing at my workplace, 64-bit Ubuntu has better hardware support compared to Win 7 Pro. And this is with version 10.04 LTS.

Definitely true these days. I connect my Nokia 5800. Ubuntu says "mobile modem detected" and then asks me to select my Operator. I choose MTNL and voila I'm on Internet using 3.5G.

ico said:
Definitely true these days. I connect my Nokia 5800. Ubuntu says "mobile modem detected" and then asks me to select my Operator. I choose MTNL and voila I'm on Internet using 3.5G.

Even printers (HP) are better supported!!!

My KB has finally been dispatched. Ordered from primeabgb on 15th May.
47days and counting.

Pics and review coming up this week.

Sarath said:
My KB has finally been dispatched. Ordered from primeabgb on 15th May.
47days and counting.

Pics and review coming up this week.

ROFL, prime is really something :lol:

Prime is indeed a prime in fast shipping ;-)

^^ wow - that's a really long time ;-)

Its finally here, After 53days. :-D

*i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc480/sarathmay3/Gaming%20Monster/DSC_0232.jpg

My PC is now complete

Arranged the PC again. Pic in first post or click here.

After using a few computer tables I have realized that they suck.

Congrats!!! Superb keyboard.

^^Nice!

Congrats Sarath - your looong wait for the KB looks to be fruitful ;-)

congrats sarath

sarath nice buy. congrats

thanks everyone.

Saving up for speakers now :-(

Which model are you eying for?

Speakers are a pain yaar. You can't turn up the volume enough to enjoy games and movies, without parents/siblings/neighbours/tenants below complaining. That's why i switched to headsets

and congrats on a fantastic config

Well the speakers are just so for those rare- "come watch this video with me" or when I have hearing fatigue from phones.

I am buying 3 audio gear:
Speakers for PC
Headphones circum aural for PC/games/whatnot
IEMs for my phone

So budget is a big prob, as all that has to be in a month or two. More is the confusion.

IEMs are definitely gonna be the best I can get.
Speakers: I am in two minds about going for a good 5k 2.1 setup or just basic ones at 2k
Circumaural: Get the SS siberia or something from Sennheiser HD, although I am close to getting a nice pair of sennheiser cans.

Try getting the Razer Carcharias (Best 2.1 out there) for Gaming, or the Roccat Kave (True 5.1), if it's available.

Hmm will they be good for music too. Will be used 75% for music and I am very particular.

D

Speakers Go For Swan M10 @ 5.5K
Headphone Razer Carcharias @ 3.7K Or Audio Technica AD-700 @ 7K

I have no idea where to find them in Bangalore?

I have a thread running for computer speakers, kindly suggest some here [click here]

And another thread I just created here for headphones here [Click here]

All the products suggested to you above , you will definitely find in SP Road . And Golchha should have em all . Unfortunately you say you cant travel that far, but im sure you'll find it if you make one trip to SP road .

I will surely cross SP road as I have some work in Majestic so I think I will be able to make a stop there and find them. Will they have brands such as Swan, Edifier? (Sorry for asking so much, typing with panicky hands)

Edifier is available in S.P Road, not sure about Swan.....