Gaming Crysis3 and CAD Solidedge

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1. What is the purpose of the computer? What all applications and games are you going to run? (Stupid answers like 'gaming' or 'office work' will not work. Be exact. Which games? Which applications? Avoid the word 'et cetera.')
Ans: Crysis 3, BF 4, hitman absolution, SolidEdge for 3d Modelling

2. What is your overall budget? If you can extend a bit for a more balanced configuration, then mention this too.
Ans: 100k max

3. Planning to overclock?
Ans:YES

4. Which Operating System are you planning to use?
Ans:Windows 7 or 8

5. How much hard drive space is needed?
Ans: 1TB

6. Do you want to buy a monitor? If yes, please mention which screen size and resolution do you want. If you already have a monitor and want to reuse it, again mention the size and resolution of monitor you have.
Ans: 1080p 22" or higher with displayport may be 3d also if possible

7. Which components you DON'T want to buy or which components you already have and plan on reusing?
Ans: Mouse, keyboard and headphones

8. When are you planning to buy the system?
Ans: By the end of Aug 2013

9. Have you ever built a desktop before or will this be done by an assembler?
Ans: yes i have built before

10. Where do you live? Are you buying locally? Are you open to buying stuff from online shops if you don't get locally?
Ans:Bangalore. Open to all options

11. Anything else which you would like to say?
Ans: Please make this rig as cost effective as possible.
Since i need to work on SolidEdge so i think i should go for Intel core i7 3770k or 4770k ( if thats wise to go for).
8gb ram to start with. RipjawsX or vengeance?
Liquid CPU coolers?
How about GTX 770? i know its only for gaming and i wont be needing a pro grade graphics card as of now.
Simple cabinet which i'd like to mod later on.
Multi Gpu in mind for the future.
Displayport monitor if possible a 120Hz one.
250 gb Velociraptor for OS drive?
UPS is needed.

amd
fx 8350 - 11.5k
ASUS SABERTOOTH 990FX Motherboard - 14.3k
gskill ripjawsx 2x4gb - 4.4k
asus nvidia gtx 770-30k
wd black 1tb - 5.8k
plexter 128gb ssd-8k
asus 24b5st ODD -1k
corsair TX850v2 - 8k
corsair 500r - 6k
dell s2240l -8.5k
coolermaster hyper 212 evo-2.2k
apc 1.1kva ups-5.2k

total--rs104900

you can also opt for gigabyte 990x ud3 for 9k
corsair tx750v2 for 6k
corsair carbide 400r for 4.8k to lower the costs.

for intel, go for core i7 4770k(dont know the price but atleast 21k) and asus gryphon mobo(14.5k).But you may cut down ssd.So i tell you to go with amd rig.

raj917 said:
1.i should go for Intel core i7 3770k or 4770k ( if thats wise to go for).
2.8gb ram to start with. RipjawsX or vengeance?
3.Liquid CPU coolers?
4.How about GTX 770? i know its only for gaming and i wont be needing a pro grade graphics card as of now.
5.Simple cabinet which i'd like to mod later on.
6.Multi Gpu in mind for the future.
7.Displayport monitor if possible a 120Hz one.
8.250 gb Velociraptor for OS drive?
9.UPS is needed.[/B]

1.Thats purely your choice ....AMD FX 8350 not bad either..
2.8GB?? go for 2*4 sticks but if you want to increase it further opt for single 8GB stick. IMO 8GB is good enough & you may not need more
3.If you choose AMD then CM 212Evo is nice. But for i7 a more solid solution is required
Thermalright Silver Arrow Dual 14cm Fan Cooler
If you really want Liquid cooling then
Corsair H100i Liquid CPU Cooler 120MM
NZXT Kraken X60 CPU Water Cooler

4.Go for HD 7970GHz instead
AnandTech | Bench - GPU13
You may like to check this Link
5.no no no no. get at least a decent cabinet
6.Pls kick out the thought of MGPU setup. Its hassles are much more as compared to benefits
7.
8.Why velociraptor?? (Power Consuming, very hot) instead get a SSD
9.

instead of velociraptor go with a SSD

@ Op i think you need more budget to get everything you want.mostly atleast 110-115k

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rijinpk1 said:
amd
fx 8350 - 11.5k
ASUS SABERTOOTH 990FX Motherboard - 14.3k
gskill ripjawsx 2x4gb - 4.4k
asus nvidia gtx 770-30k
wd black 1tb - 5.8k
plexter 128gb ssd-8k
asus 24b5st ODD -1k
corsair TX850v2 - 8k
corsair 500r - 6k
dell s2240l -8.5k
coolermaster hyper 212 evo-2.2k
apc 1.1kva ups-5.2k

total--rs104900

Good Config! Change the SSD to Samsung 840, it is 2k cheaper.

Shiva

Currently Gigabyte HD 7970 OC with Boost Windforce is avaialble at 26.8K in Smc. Get that one.

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Chaitanya said:
1.Thats purely your choice ....AMD FX 8350 not bad either..
2.8GB?? go for 2*4 sticks but if you want to increase it further opt for single 8GB stick. IMO 8GB is good enough & you may not need more
3.If you choose AMD then CM 212Evo is nice. But for i7 a more solid solution is required
Thermalright Silver Arrow Dual 14cm Fan Cooler
If you really want Liquid cooling then
Corsair H100i Liquid CPU Cooler 120MM
NZXT Kraken X60 CPU Water Cooler

4.Go for HD 7970GHz instead
AnandTech | Bench - GPU13
You may like to check this Link
5.no no no no. get at least a decent cabinet
6.Pls kick out the thought of MGPU setup. Its hassles are much more as compared to benefits
7.
8.Why velociraptor?? (Power Consuming, very hot) instead get a SSD
9.

Thanks for the eye opener. :shock:

going with HD 7970Ghz. the only thing i am sure about now. So that leaves me with about 70 k.
I have thought of buying SSD and UPS after a month or two

@Op so what you decided ?

are going for multigpus? if yes,then opt gtx 770 anyday over 7970ghz due better scaling of nvida sli

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this is whats going in my mind

Intel core i7 4770-k - 23k(i hope so)
Asus gryphon z87 - 15k
corsair TX850v2 - 8k
gskill ripjawsx 2x4gb - 4.4k
asus nvidia gtx 770-30k
wd black 1tb - 5.8k
Corsair H100i Liquid CPU Cooler 120MM - 8k
corsair 500r - 6k

Recommend a Monitor - around 21k

and please kill any overkills present here

Total less than 122k. Hopefully i can convince dad for this.

raj917 said:
this is whats going in my mind

Intel core i7 4770-k - 23k(i hope so)
Asus gryphon z87 - 15k
corsair TX850v2 - 8k
gskill ripjawsx 2x4gb - 4.4k
asus nvidia gtx 770-30k
wd black 1tb - 5.8k
Corsair H100i Liquid CPU Cooler 120MM - 8k
corsair 500r - 6k

Recommend a Monitor - around 21k

and please kill any overkills present here

Total less than 122k. Hopefully i can convince dad for this.

> TX850v2 is overkill IMO, though not sure. A 700 W PSU should be perfectly fine.

> Instead of H100i, get H80, its enough for overclocking the chip (correct me if I'm wrong).

> Instead of 500R, get CM 690 II Advanced, its a bit more spacious.

i think op is going for multigpus then 750-850 w is fine otherwise even 650w is enough

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i think i will buy corsair ax 760. has good reviews.

^^ Do you have plan to go for Multi-GPU setup in future?

raj917 said:
i think i will buy corsair ax 760. has good reviews.

And will you be using single monitor or multiple monitors?

before you want to go for water cooling think if you can live with the fear of [rare] leakages. IMO, air coolers are pretty much enough for OCing upto 4.5GHz on the 8350.

and get a good cabinet. modding isnt as easy in india as it is abroad.

raj917 said:
i think i will buy corsair ax 760. has good reviews.

Go for this only if MGPU setup is planned ahead... else a 600-650W is good enough
BTW AX 760 is only available here Buy Online Corsair AX Series AX760 760W - 80 PLUS Platinum Certified Fully-Modular - ATX Power Supply (CMPSU-760AX) in india

else you may go for Seasonic SS-860XP2 860 Watts PSU - Seasonic: Flipkart.com

rijinpk1 said:
amd
fx 8350 - 11.5k
ASUS SABERTOOTH 990FX Motherboard - 14.3k
gskill ripjawsx 2x4gb - 4.4k
asus nvidia gtx 770-30k
wd black 1tb - 5.8k
plexter 128gb ssd-8k
asus 24b5st ODD -1k
corsair TX850v2 - 8k
corsair 500r - 6k
dell s2240l -8.5k
coolermaster hyper 212 evo-2.2k
apc 1.1kva ups-5.2k

total--rs104900

you can also opt for gigabyte 990x ud3 for 9k
corsair tx750v2 for 6k
corsair carbide 400r for 4.8k to lower the costs.

for intel, go for core i7 4770k(dont know the price but atleast 21k) and asus gryphon mobo(14.5k).But you may cut down ssd.So i tell you to go with amd rig.

lol dell s2240l does not have display port

@raj917 , go for any HP ZR series workstation monitors, you will get a display port with all of them or else you can also go for LA series Professional monitors but they might have limited options.
PS you cannot use cheap HDMI to display port converters, you will always have issue with them. Most sellers in SP road will not even know what display port is.

anirbandd said:
before you want to go for water cooling think if you can live with the fear of [rare] leakages. IMO, air coolers are pretty much enough for OCing upto 4.5GHz on the 8350.

and get a good cabinet. modding isnt as easy in india as it is abroad.

Well buddy AFAIK water cooling doesnt actually mean using H2O its some other fluid good enough for heat transfer
also what do you say for air coolers that are heavy enough to rip the motherboard apart

Although it is completely different matter that FX 8350 doesnt require a water cooling kit

Chaitanya said:
Well buddy AFAIK water cooling doesnt actually mean using H2O its some other fluid good enough for heat transfer
also what do you say for air coolers that are heavy enough to rip the motherboard apart

most motherboards these days have a metal back plate and the PCB's not that fragile

Chaitanya said:
Well buddy AFAIK water cooling doesnt actually mean using H2O its some other fluid good enough for heat transfer
also what do you say for air coolers that are heavy enough to rip the motherboard apart

Although it is completely different matter that FX 8350 doesnt require a water cooling kit

i know it uses non conductive liquids.

its just that if it were me, i'd hate to take liquid out of my GPU/slots.

that i dont have the budget for liquid cooling is another matter entirely

Gollum said:
most motherboards these days have a metal back plate and the PCB's not that fragile

actually, high end mobos have reinforced PCBs.

plus metal back plate

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harshilsharma63 said:
And will you be using single monitor or multiple monitors?

One big monitor. i may go multi gpu in future.

Gollum said:
Most sellers in SP road will not even know what display port is.

True that.
I had Dell ultrasharp U2412m in mind.

@Chaitanya thanks for the link. I opted the AX760 after seeing that page.

single monitor: +1

Multi GPU: stick to NVIDIA. Until AMD releases stutter free drivers.

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anirbandd said:
modding isnt as easy in india as it is abroad.

True.
But i'm a mechanical engineering student and i just want to construct an awesome cabinet. My friend's uncle owns a workshop equipped with all the tools and machines needed for the job. And the first thing i will be doing on this rig would be designing that dream cabinet.
its just a holiday project to get the hands on experience of engineering

^then you'll appreciate havinf the right tools for the right job[fab]

excellent if you have the right tools at hand. if not, welcome to hell

just in case, consider a 500R, and then buy an cheap Zerbronics/iBall cabby to mod on.

anirbandd said:
^then you'll appreciate havinf the right tools for the right job[fab]

excellent if you have the right tools at hand. if not, welcome to hell

just in case, consider a 500R, and then buy an cheap Zerbronics/iBall cabby to mod on.

to add to that, I would suggest you to add columns to reinforce the cabinet as those cheap cabinets are quite bendable.

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i think i should buy the 500r or 690 II Advanced (until the new case is ready) both out of stock in Flipkart. just hope sellers in SP road will have when i go there.
Also for the modding i will buy second hand cabinets although i only need the motherboard tray and the drive bays.

I'm still not sure of the monitor. i can spend 25-30k for that.
I also found a sabertooth z87 + i7 4770k combo on ebay for 51k

Also i have one more thing in mind. the idea is to have two hdds and a quadro and a gtx. A dual boot system. one OS in one of the hdd has quadro driver and another OS in the other HDD has gtx driver. Anybody tried this ?

lol

that would be pretty crazy.. you have to plug in the particular GPU before booting each time.

are you leaning towards Quadro for SolidEdge??

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anirbandd said:
lol

that would be pretty crazy.. you have to plug in the particular GPU before booting each time.

are you leaning towards Quadro for SolidEdge??

Yeah but that's a long way ahead. May be when i start earning.

raj917 said:
Yeah but that's a long way ahead. May be when i start earning.

May be by then your problem can be solved by some software simply.... ;-)

@op we have a famous modder from India in our forum. You can contact him. User name rakesh_sharma23.

here's one of his wonders "scratch-build-phase-changer-rig"

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avinandan012 said:
@op we have a famous modder from India in our forum. You can contact him. User name rakesh_sharma23.

here's one of his wonders "scratch-build-phase-changer-rig"

Thanks for the contact

so heres what i am thinking to get but still want to reduce cost

i7 4770k - 23k
Corsair H100i - 8k
asus 24b5st ODD -1k
Seasonic SS-860XP2 860 Watts PSU - 13.5k on flipkart
wd black 1tb - 5.8k
gskill ripjawsx 2x4gb - 4.4k
corsair 500r - 6k
ASUS VG248QE - 23k on geb ebay (hope it lasts till i order

)

Don't know about motherboard and graphics .total till now is about 79k. Where can i cut ?

raj917 said:
I also found a sabertooth z87 + i7 4770k combo on ebay for 51k

Heck that a very huge amount to pay...

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Chaitanya said:
Heck that a very huge amount to pay...

Yes its a lot. So i'll wait a little for them to come down. And our rupee is skyrocketing so got to wait for it to reduce against $.

My point is you may buy a AMD rig..

V

why are you not buying all the parts from sp road if you currently reside in bangalore ?

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varun004 said:
why are you not buying all the parts from sp road if you currently reside in bangalore ?

I will buy parts from sp road if i find the prices to be lower. The PSU, RAM sticks, HDD, ODD and Cabinet from SP road. The other parts if i available at lower prices.

V

buy all from one place, its more convenient and i am sure their prices will be lower than online rates.

You will get cheaper price in sp road than online for sure

V

go to golcha it and buy everything from there. I bought most of the parts and accessories from them. They have good prices than other sp road dealers.

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varun004 said:
buy all from one place, its more convenient and i am sure their prices will be lower than online rates.

Well, when i went there, sellers were quoting online prices. What they do is, call up some guy and ask the price who, sees it online and quotes the price.

Anyway I'll try again and i hope i can buy every part from there.

Apart from this is there any way to cut costs from the parts in post #32

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raj917 said:
Well, when i went there, sellers were quoting online prices. What they do is, call up some guy and ask the price who, sees it online and quotes the price.

New guys usually get duped. You have to bargain a bit.

R

So this is what i hav come up with till now

i7 4770k - 23k
Corsair H100i - 8k
asus 24b5st ODD -1k
Seasonic SS-860XP2 860 Watts PSU - 13.5k on flipkart
wd black 1tb - 5.8k
gskill ripjawsx 2x4gb - 4.4k
corsair 500r - 6k
ASUS VG248QE - 23k
Asus Maximus VI Hero - around 15k
GTX 770 - 30k

Total 119.3k

Open for changes

raj917 said:
So this is what i hav come up with till now

i7 4770k - 23k
Corsair H100i - 8k
asus 24b5st ODD -1k
Seasonic SS-860XP2 860 Watts PSU - 13.5k on flipkart
wd black 1tb - 5.8k
gskill ripjawsx 2x4gb - 4.4k
corsair 500r - 6k
ASUS VG248QE - 23k
Asus Maximus VI Hero - around 15k
GTX 770 - 30k

Total 119.3k

Open for changes

Everything nice, except for the cooler which I seriously think is an overkill.

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harshilsharma63 said:
Everything nice, except for the cooler which I seriously think is an overkill.

What do you suggest then?

Take Corsair H80 cooler @5-6k is enough.

*www.tweaktown.com/reviews/4228/cor...formance_liquid_cpu_cooler_review/index8.html

I am not sure, but You can take a look at CM 120XL. I haven't got it for testing yet, but CM made a good impression on 240M except the fans.

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The Sorcerer said:
I am not sure, but You can take a look at CM 120XL. I haven't got it for testing yet, but CM made a good impression on 240M except the fans.

i read the review at techpowerup.com so i have decided to go with H80 or H100 to be decided when purchasing begins. If there is extra cash H100 otherwise H80.

raj917 said:
So this is what i hav come up with till now

i7 4770k - 23k
Corsair H100i - 8k
asus 24b5st ODD -1k
Seasonic SS-860XP2 860 Watts PSU - 13.5k on flipkart
wd black 1tb - 5.8k
gskill ripjawsx 2x4gb - 4.4k
corsair 500r - 6k
ASUS VG248QE - 23k
Asus Maximus VI Hero - around 15k
GTX 770 - 30k

Total 119.3k

Open for changes

beast of a rig!!

well balanced and powerful.

best of luck for some kickass gaming

raj917 said:
So this is what i hav come up with till now

i7 4770k - 23k
Corsair H100i - 8k
asus 24b5st ODD -1k
Seasonic SS-860XP2 860 Watts PSU - 13.5k on flipkart
wd black 1tb - 5.8k
gskill ripjawsx 2x4gb - 4.4k
corsair 500r - 6k
ASUS VG248QE - 23k
Asus Maximus VI Hero - around 15k
GTX 770 - 30k

Total 119.3k

Open for changes

Go for HD 7970 GHz rather than GTX 770 Benchmarks
Also if possible stick to Corsair H100 or NZXT Kraken X60
cause 4770k requires very much decent cooling system

^ op is going for multigpus in future so gtx 770 suits best

ASHISH65 said:
^ op is going for multigpus in future so gtx 770 suits best

Oh! I see then GTX 770 is better
BTW for single monitor even @ 2560*1440 HD 7970/GTX 770 is enough then why multi GPU setup??

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Chaitanya said:
Oh! I see then GTX 770 is better
BTW for single monitor even @ 2560*1440 HD 7970/GTX 770 is enough then why multi GPU setup??

Will go 3d in future upgrades

Chaitanya said:
Go for HD 7970 GHz rather than GTX 770 Benchmarks
Also if possible stick to Corsair H100 or NZXT Kraken X60
cause 4770k requires very much decent cooling system

okay. then corsair h100 it is

raj917 said:
Will go 3d in future upgrades

Not stopping you from going 3D but it's not successful cause AFAIK people start developing headaches due to 3d glasses...(I have no idea although.. pls try test & then only get 3D)

other members pls comment

^ agreed 3d is not good for eyes.i myself have played 40 min in front infront of 3d monitor and experinced eyes strain a lot.

Chaitanya said:
Not stopping you from going 3D but it's not successful cause AFAIK people start developing headaches due to 3d glasses...(I have no idea although.. pls try test & then only get 3D)

other members pls comment

agreed..

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Oh i have heard about that. When i played Crysis 2 for the first time i felt my eyes strained after 10 minutes then went back to 2d. i then searched the web and found out that adjusting the depth can help reduce strain. in some website where they reviewed the 3d vision, the author said that in fps games, to adjust the depth, first you have to face a wall (in the game) and turn the dial in the emitter until you get the 3d feel while keeping your eyes comfortable. i also remember reading about convergence. I did as the author said and then crysis 2 took a new level after which i fell in love with that game. i'll post the link to that website asap.

raj917 said:
I'll post the link to that website asap.

Yeah that will help people with 3d kits thrown back in scarp...