Gaming PC 45k - extended to 60k

Hi,

Had bought a pc 5yrs ago using advice from you guys. Its still working great. Thanks a ton to all !

However now i need a new one for myself. Pure gaming and nothing else.

1. What is the purpose of the computer? What all applications and games are you going to run? (Stupid answers like 'gaming' or 'office work' will not work. Be exact. Which games? Which applications? Avoid the word 'et cetera.')
Ans: I play a variety of strategy games like Europa Universalis and Total war series. However, I do play graphic intensive games like Battlefield and COD occasionally. Ultra graphics is not any issue for me, but the game should run smooth.

2. What is your overall budget? If you can extend a bit for a more balanced configuration, then mention this too.
Ans:45k. Max 50k.

3. Planning to overclock?
Ans: not really, no.

4. Which Operating System are you planning to use?
Ans: Win 7

5. How much hard drive space is needed?
Ans: 1tb

6. Do you want to buy a monitor? If yes, please mention which screen size and resolution do you want. If you already have a monitor and want to reuse it, again mention the size and resolution of monitor you have.
Ans: Yes i would require a monitor.

7. Which components you DON'T want to buy or which components you already have and plan on reusing?
Ans: need all components except speakers and mouse.

8. When are you planning to buy the system?
Ans: whenever you think is a good time

... I mean, im not in a hurry.

9. Have you ever built a desktop before or will this be done by an assembler?
Ans: I live in Mumbai. Shall buy it from prime abgb and assemble it there itself.

10. Where do you live? Are you buying locally? Are you open to buying stuff from online shops if you don't get locally?
Ans: Mumbai - Prime abgb. Can buy online as well.

11. Anything else which you would like to say?
Ans:

Budget -53K

AMD Ryzen 3 1300 -10500,
Asus Prime A320M-K -5000,
Corsair Value Series 8GB 3000Mhz -5500,
Corsair CX550 -4500,
Antec GX200 -3000,
WD Caviar Blue 1TB -3500,
LG 22MP68VQ-P 22" LED IPS -9000,
Zotac GTX1050Ti 4GB Mini -11000,
Logitech MK200 KB/Mouse Combo -1000.
TOTAL -53,000.

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Build it in Feb /march .. Wait for Cheap 8th gen h310 boards and 2nd gen Ryzen processors to launch first

gta5 said:
Build it in Feb /march .. Wait for Cheap 8th gen h310 boards and 2nd gen Ryzen processors to launch first

I wish i could wait that long, but i will end up spending the money i saved for this.

Need to build this within a month.

bssunilreddy said:
Budget -53K

AMD Ryzen 3 1300 -10500,
Asus Prime A320M-K -5000,
Corsair Value Series 8GB 3000Mhz -5500,
Corsair CX550 -4500,
Antec GX200 -3000,
WD Caviar Blue 1TB -3500,
LG 22MP68VQ-P 22" LED IPS -9000,
Zotac GTX1050Ti 4GB Mini -11000,
Logitech MK200 KB/Mouse Combo -1000.
TOTAL -53,000.

How is this combo :

1. AMD Ryzen 5 1400 - 12,600
2. GIGABYTE GA-AB350-GAMING 3 AM4 AMD RYZEN - 9,800
3. Zotac GTX1050Ti 4GB Mini -11000,

Is it any better than the ones you mentioned? (graphic card is the same)

The above three cost approx Rs. 33400/- . Theres a difference of 7k from your config. Is it worth it?

Just wait for a month or two, i5 8400 obliterates ryzen 5 1400, AND has integrated graphics.
Going for that and a cheap Rs 5k motherboard would not only save you money but also give you performance equivalent to a Ryzen 5 1600

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Don't get mini versions for gaming,better get regular size ones.Also Asus is considered better than Zotac on an average regarding graphics card.Also do proper research on mobo & ram compatibility for Ryzen systems as not all rams will run at their rated speeds on all Ryzen compatible mobos.

Adding to what @Nerevarine posted, ram prices are too high right now and samsung has increased the production which could lead to a price reduction.

whitestar_999 said:
Don't get mini versions for gaming,better get regular size ones.Also Asus is considered better than Zotac on an average regarding graphics card.Also do proper research on mobo & ram compatibility for Ryzen systems as not all rams will run at their rated speeds on all Ryzen compatible mobos.

I agree on not going for mini version for below 1070 range. The minis after 1070 give you two fans instead of one, it runs cooler and faster than founders edition.
I cannot comment if the same is true for 1060 and below.

But do consider the fact that Zotac gives you 2 additional years of warranty, which not only insures your costs, regardless of how bad their service is, but also increases the selling price should you choose to sell it off after 3 years.

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As far as I know all regular/mini versions of 1050Ti are single fan only & that in itself is not a bad thing as 1050Ti doesn't really need 2 fans,just 1 good fan is enough.However mini versions of 1050Ti are usually clocked a little lower than regular size versions while priced almost same as regular versions so unless one is looking to install a 1050Ti in a small cabinet,I don't see any point in going for it.

I know about Zotac warranty but the thing is I have heard from some people as well as read some reviews that Zotac will reject RMA claims citing even minor things as "physical damage" which are to be expected from a graphics card in use for 3 years so effectively the warranty may be considered as 3 years only.

Nerevarine said:
Just wait for a month or two, i5 8400 obliterates ryzen 5 1400, AND has integrated graphics.
Going for that and a cheap Rs 5k motherboard would not only save you money but also give you performance equivalent to a Ryzen 5 1600

I5 8400 is currently available at 14.5k.

Buy Online | Intel Core I5-8400 2.80 GHz Coffee Lake-S 8TH GEN Processor | Price in India

Can u suggest a mobo along with that?
Also, i will need a graphics card for games coz i dont think the internal card which u mentioned will be able to play high end games.

SaiyanGoku said:
Adding to what @Nerevarine posted, ram prices are too high right now and samsung has increased the production which could lead to a price reduction.

Thanks! Ill keep that in mind. Can u suggest a build as well with the i5 8400?

Also, i will need a graphics card for games coz i dont think the internal card which u mentioned will be able to play high end games.

Yeah absolutely, but having an integrated GPU is a good thing, if your main GPU gets kaput.

Right now the H and B series 8th gen motherboard hasnt launched yet. Its reportedly launching in january along with Intel i5 8500.
Would suggest waiting for that, since its very close.

Nerevarine said:
Also, i will need a graphics card for games coz i dont think the internal card which u mentioned will be able to play high end games.

Yeah absolutely, but having an integrated GPU is a good thing, if your main GPU gets kaput.

Right now the H and B series 8th gen motherboard hasnt launched yet. Its reportedly launching in january along with Intel i5 8500.
Would suggest waiting for that, since its very close.

Yes you are correct. Would need an internal card if the main dies.

Ill wait till jan then for the mobo to be released.

I dont mind going for this if its any better than the one releasing in Jan:

Buy Online | Asus STRIX-Z370-H-GAMING Intel Z370 Motherboard | Price in India

It will support i5 8400. Ill save money on graphics card by going for a second hand one and then replacing it after a year.

Killerswan said:
I dont mind going for this if its any better than the one releasing in Jan:

Buy Online | Asus STRIX-Z370-H-GAMING Intel Z370 Motherboard | Price in India

It will support i5 8400. Ill save money on graphics card by going for a second hand one and then replacing it after a year.

Do not get a Z370 mobo since you aren't going to overclock that 8400.

the Z series mobo is only meant for overclockers, going for that with a non K series processor is a waste of money.

Oh ok...so my only option seems to be waiting for it....

Or is there any other mobo which pairs with i5 8400?

I think you are still confused. There are only Z series MoBo available in the market for 8th gen core series CPUs NOW. But Z series are for those who wanna overclock. Like @Nerevarine said - H & B series will be launched in Jan/Feb so wait till then. As of NOW no options other than Z.

Why does God test my patience everytime i buy a pc :cryeyesout:

"Wait for a while, something new is just around the corner" :hissyfit:

If you wish to purchase now, Ryzen 5 1600 + B350 motherboard is very good deal. You can get a M size B350 for ~Rs 5k also. Processor = 16.4k
I feel like going for Ryzen processors below that is not worth it. R5 1500x is just a quadcore.

Killerswan said:
Why does God test my patience everytime i buy a pc

"Wait for a while, something new is just around the corner"

lol. But on a serious note - this is definitely a bad time to set up a gaming PC. RAM prices keep on increasing every month. For eg. I bought a 16GB Corsair Vengeance 3000MHz stick for 7.9k (there was cashback offer going on Amazon during May). Listed price on Amazon was 9.3k and shops in SP Road, Bangalore were selling the same module for around 8.7k. Right now the same module on Amazon costs 15k

& around 14.2k in SP Road. I cant even buy another module since I use quite a few VMs so I was hoping to up the RAM to 32GB. Similar story with the prices of SSD. RX 570 should have given tough competition to nVidia in GPUs but damn crytpo-currency mining. On top of that - BS strategy of Intel. 8th gen CPUs were not compatible with previous gen MoBos. So you see why waiting for now is the best strategy!!

Well, I researched a bit on Ryzen 5 1600 and I5 8400, and i think its not worth the wait. I dont know when the cheaper boards will be released, plus i dont want to spend so much on something new (combo).

Ill go for the Ryzen 5 1600 + B350.

Please suggest a good card in the range of 16k. Should i go for GTX 1060 3gb or stick with 1050 TI ?

Killerswan said:
Well, I researched a bit on Ryzen 5 1600 and I5 8400, and i think its not worth the wait. I dont know when the cheaper boards will be released, plus i dont want to spend so much on something new (combo).

Ill go for the Ryzen 5 1600 + B350.

Please suggest a good card in the range of 16k. Should i go for GTX 1060 3gb or stick with 1050 TI ?

G4560+ H110 with bios update +GTX 1060 6GB

SaiyanGoku said:
G4560+ H110 with bios update +GTX 1060 6GB

isnt the ryzen 5 1600 much better? Im ready to spend on that... plus a 16k gfx card

Edit :

Sorry if i wasn't clear with my earlier post. I meant I'm ready to increase my budget and go for Ryzen 5 1600 + b350 plus Ill spend approx 16k on a gfx card.

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Try to stretch/adjust to get a 6gb 1060 as difference is not that much but a 3gb 1060 will run out of video ram in some games.

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there is also 2nd generation Ryzen processors that are expected to launch .. and 6 cores with 2nd gen may become cheap to compete with i5 8400
B360 boards likely February.. Ryzen 2nd gen by march likely

also aren't strategy games much more CPU intensive (g4560 )?

what is your final total Maximum budget ?

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Z870 Mobos while being meant for overclocking also imply higher quality components that support the same.
That said, the difference in mobo pricing of Ryzen vs CoffeLake will net you a better graphics card, the one thing that matters most for gaming.
So for now, Ryzen 1600 + B350 mobo combo is a better deal than i5-8500+z370 for gaming.

You can get just 8 GB ram now and add another 8GB later. Also get a 250-280GB SATA SSD to help with getting game load times.

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Ive increased the budget to 60k.

This is what i think suits best for now :

Prices are approx:
CPU - Ryzen 5 1600 - 16000
MOBO - B350 - 6500
GFX - GTX 1050 Ti - 14000
SMPS(550W) - 4500
Display - 9000
HDD - 3500
Cabinet - 2000
Ram - 6000

This comes upto 61k.

Whats your verdict?

gta5 said:
there is also 2nd generation Ryzen processors that are expected to launch .. and 6 cores with 2nd gen may become cheap to compete with i5 8400
B360 boards likely February.. Ryzen 2nd gen by march likely

also aren't strategy games much more CPU intensive (g4560 )?

what is your final total Maximum budget ?

I want to buy first week of Jan. You guys got me too excited now.

Ill be also playing games like Wolfenstein, the next elder scrolls, The next battlefield, Total war, the next Mount and blade, etc.

Budget increased to 60k

Killerswan said:
Ive increased the budget to 60k.

This is what i think suits best for now :

Prices are approx:
CPU - Ryzen 5 1600 - 16000
MOBO - B350 - 6500
GFX - GTX 1050 Ti - 14000
SMPS(550W) - 4500
Display - 9000
HDD - 3500
Cabinet - 2000
Ram - 6000

This comes upto 61k.

Whats your verdict?

Too low for proper cabinet, get a better GPU unless you want to upgrade in next 2 years.

SaiyanGoku said:
Too low for proper cabinet, get a better GPU unless you want to upgrade in next 2 years.

Yes i will upgrade the gpu in a couple of years by selling this off.
Ok, cabinet ill increase to 3k.

Rest of the stuff is ok?

hi,

Happy new yr!

Which is the best B350 motherboard i can go for at around 6-7k ?

I found many variations of them. Cant seem to make out whats different

Killerswan said:
hi,

Happy new yr!

Which is the best B350 motherboard i can go for at around 6-7k ?

I found many variations of them. Cant seem to make out whats different

Asus Prime B350 Plus @ 8k

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Killerswan said:
I found many variations of them. Cant seem to make out whats different

cheaper boards don't have Heatsinks and may have poor quality VRMs , which affects longevity when overclocking..

add 1200-1300 Rs more and get Corsair TX550M for Rs 5600 .. if you don't mind it being loud , it is totally worth it for long term for 8 years or so