Gaming PC for 60-65k

1. What is the purpose of the computer? What all applications and games are you going to run? (Stupid answers like 'gaming' or 'office work' will not work. Be exact. Which games? Which applications? Avoid the word 'et cetera.')
Ans: Gaming PC,Watching Full HD movies playing games like battlefield 4 and watch dogs and other New games at high settings

2. What is your overall budget? If you can extend a bit for a more balanced configuration, then mention this too.
Ans: 60-65k

3. Planning to overclock?
Ans: Not sure

4. Which Operating System are you planning to use?
Ans: Win 7 64bit

5. How much hard drive space is needed?
Ans: 500 GB

6. Do you want to buy a monitor? If yes, please mention which screen size and resolution do you want. If you already have a monitor and want to reuse it, again mention the size and resolution of monitor you have.
Ans: Full HD (22 inches)

7. Which components you DON'T want to buy or which components you already have and plan on reusing?
Ans: Will buy everything

8. When are you planning to buy the system?
Ans: Next Month

9. Have you ever built a desktop before or will this be done by an assembler?
Ans: No

10. Where do you live? Are you buying locally? Are you open to buying stuff from online shops if you don't get locally?
Ans: Delhi,will buy from Nehru Place

> Answer the first question again, properly.

> Will you specifically buy in November or will you buy as soon as it gets finalize?

FX 8350 (13000)
Asus M5A97 EVO R2.0 (8100)
Kingston HyperX Blu 1600 MHz 4 GB (2500)
WD Blue 500 GB (3100)
Zotac GTX 760 2 GB (21000)
Seasonic S12II 520W (4100)
NZXT Gamma (2300)
Dell S2240L (8800)
Lenovo M6811 mice (750)
Any logitech KB (300)
Asus optical drive (1000)

total: 65k

harshilsharma63 said:
> Answer the first question again, properly.

> Will you specifically buy in November or will you buy as soon as it gets finalize?

FX 8350 (13000)
Asus M5A97 EVO R2.0 (8100)
Kingston HyperX Blu 1600 MHz 4 GB (2500)
WD Blue 500 GB (3100)
Zotac GTX 760 2 GB (21000)
Seasonic S12II 520W (4100)
NZXT Gamma (2300)
Dell S2240L (8800)
Lenovo M118 mice (750)
Any logitech KB (300)

total: ~64k

^^it is LENOVO M6811 . +1 to the suggestion

also add asus odd

Any intel rig suggestion?

Limitless said:
Any intel rig suggestion?

get the following CPU and Motherboard:-

Intel Core i5 4570 @ 13.85K
Gigabyte H87M-D3H @ 7.3K

FX 8350 or i5 4570?

imo get the FX 8350

H

Limitless said:
FX 8350 or i5 4570?

fx 8350 is overclockable and i5 4570 is not . so fx 8350 is a better choice. go for it :+1:

Will get fx 8350

Gtx 760 is good if no provide another suggestion

Limitless said:
Gtx 760 is good if no provide another suggestion

760 is good. get wither Zotac or Asus DCII model. Zotac offers 5 years warranty (after online registration).

harshilsharma63 said:
760 is good. get wither Zotac or Asus DCII model. Zotac offers 5 years warranty (after online registration).

It can run games on high or ultra settings?

yes, ^^^^
And I am following this suggestion to configure one my friend's PC today.
SO dont doubt on anything you get suggested here

H

get this and free splintercell blacklist.

hitman4 said:
get this and free splintercell blacklist.

Thanks

FX 8350 (13000)
Asus M5A97 EVO R2.0 (8100)
Kingston HyperX Blu 1600 MHz 4 GB (2500)
WD Blue 500 GB (3100)
Zotac GTX 760 2 GB (21000)
Seasonic S12II 520W (4100)
NZXT Gamma (2300)
Dell S2240L (8800)
Lenovo M6811 mice (750)
Any logitech KB (300)
Asus optical drive (1000)

Now going for this config tell me if there is any change

Limitless said:
Thanks

FX 8350 (13000)
Asus M5A97 EVO R2.0 (8100)
Kingston HyperX Blu 1600 MHz 4 GB (2500)
WD Blue 500 GB (3100)
Zotac GTX 760 2 GB (21000)
Seasonic S12II 520W (4100)
NZXT Gamma (2300)
Dell S2240L (8800)
Lenovo M6811 mice (750)
Any logitech KB (300)
Asus optical drive (1000)

Now going for this config tell me if there is any change

Perfrecto.

Limitless said:
Thanks

FX 8350 (13000)
Asus M5A97 EVO R2.0 (8100)
Kingston HyperX Blu 1600 MHz 4 GB (2500)
WD Blue 500 GB (3100)
Zotac GTX 760 2 GB (21000)
Seasonic S12II 520W (4100)
NZXT Gamma (2300)
Dell S2240L (8800)
Lenovo M6811 mice (750)
Any logitech KB (300)
Asus optical drive (1000)

Now going for this config tell me if there is any change

i suggest to get a gaming keyboard instead of that logitech one. everything else seems to be perfect.

No my friend don't need any gaming keyboard :/

I have the i5-4570 and i must tell, it's a beast of a CPU.
Since the i5 consumes very less energy.. According to my calculation i will save around 6500Rs per year [compared to an fx 8350] considering the fact i keep my PC usually 24x7 ON. [It's still on from the day i bought it, never switched off only restarted a few times for updates] Also i got a cheap mobo [since it wont overclock no need for high end mobo]
Also i saved 2.5k rs on the fan cooler needed for AMD cpus, also less temps , less heat

In total this is the amount i saved over a 8350 rig in terms of inital cost: 2500 RS
In 1 year: 2500+6500 rs = 9000rs
In 2 years: 9000+6500 = 15,5000Rs

Also i don't have any graphics card as of now , because the integrated gpu is fine for running Dota2/CS:GO on max settings

[Waiting for new AMD cards to hit the market]
ALSO Overclocking always has a chance of frying the mobo/damaging other parts/voiding the warranty and i5 4570 is faster per core performance.
Also the i5 is a newer 22nm manufcatured unlike the 8350 which is 32nm old gen [If it concerns you]
I'd recommend the 4570.
Here's a comparison: Intel Core i5 4570 vs AMD FX 8350
Anyone is free to point out my mistakes

ACidBaseD said:
I have the i5-4570 and i must tell, it's a beast of a CPU.
Since the i5 consumes very less energy.. According to my calculation i will save around 6500Rs per year [compared to an fx 8350] considering the fact i keep my PC usually 24x7 ON. [It's still on from the day i bought it, never switched off only restarted a few times for updates] Also i got a cheap mobo [since it wont overclock no need for high end mobo]
Also i saved 2.5k rs on the fan cooler needed for AMD cpus, also less temps , less heat

In total this is the amount i saved over a 8350 rig in terms of inital cost: 2500 RS
In 1 year: 2500+6500 rs = 9000rs
In 2 years: 9000+6500 = 15,5000Rs

Also i don't have any graphics card as of now , because the integrated gpu is fine for running Dota2/CS:GO on max settings [Waiting for new AMD cards to hit the market]
ALSO Overclocking always has a chance of frying the mobo/damaging other parts/voiding the warranty and i5 4570 is faster per core performance.
Also the i5 is a newer 22nm manufcatured unlike the 8350 which is 32nm old gen [If it concerns you]
I'd recommend the 4570.
Here's a comparison: Intel Core i5 4570 vs AMD FX 8350
Anyone is free to point out my mistakes

> no, i5 4570 is not a beast. It can be easily overthrown by the cheaper FX 8350. Though gaming performance is slightly better in case of Intel.

> Now about your calculation:

according to you:-

money saved annually= Rs.6500 => units consumed annually(considering Rs.6/unit)= 1083.33 units/year = 2.968 units/day = 0.12366 units/hour = 123.66 W of power difference between i5 4570 and FX 8350

Are you saying that you PC is running a render while scanning the PC for malware and compiling Firefox at the same time 24X7?

Check here: AMD FX-8350 - Power Consumption | bit-tech.net (althpugh the comparision doesn't involve i5 4570, we can get an approx result by reducing the power consumption of i5 3570k by 20-30%)

At idle, both consume almost same amount of power and even at load there is 96 W of power difference. Now this can lead to ~5k cash saving, but WHO RUNS THEIR PC AT 100% LOAD 24x7x365?

No game used 100% CPU, so anything but Prime95 or non hardware accelerated rendered running 24x7 can make such difference.

In a nutshell, you'r calculation are nowhere near real world PC usage scenarios.

> Overclocking is very safe now. You cannot burn a CPU unless you put it on fire or there is a manufacturing defect in wither CPU, motherboard or PSU.

harshilsharma63 said:
> no, i5 4570 is not a beast. It can be easily overthrown by the cheaper FX 8350. Though gaming performance is slightly better in case of Intel.

> Now about your calculation:

according to you:-

money saved annually= Rs.6500 => units consumed annually(considering Rs.6/unit)= 1083.33 units/year = 2.968 units/day = 0.12366 units/hour = 123.66 W of power difference between i5 4570 and FX 8350

Are you saying that you PC is running a render while scanning the PC for malware and compiling Firefox at the same time 24X7?

Check here: AMD FX-8350 - Power Consumption | bit-tech.net (althpugh the comparision doesn't involve i5 4570, we can get an approx result by reducing the power consumption of i5 3570k by 20-30%)

At idle, both consume almost same amount of power and even at load there is 96 W of power difference. Now this can lead to ~5k cash saving, but WHO RUNS THEIR PC AT 100% LOAD 24x7x365?

No game used 100% CPU, so anything but Prime95 or non hardware accelerated rendered running 24x7 can make such difference.

In a nutshell, you'r calculation are nowhere near real world PC usage scenarios.

> Overclocking is very safe now. You cannot burn a CPU unless you put it on fire or there is a manufacturing defect in wither CPU, motherboard or PSU.

Once overclocked, it wont underclock when it's idle [as in the case of turbo boost]. Also as far as i remember i pay around 8.5Rs/Unit [noob reliance]
Here are my calcuations:

(6500/8.5)/365 = 2units/Day
On an average i play around 3-6hours per day on weekdays, and 6-14hours per day on weekends..So avg time playing = 6hr per day
So conserding i5-4570 [which is around 67.9W at idle] and an fx 8350 overclocked to 4.5ghz which will be around 135.625W [according to the link u posted]
Difference = 67.725 difference = 0.067725 units/hr for 18hours = 1.22Units/18hours
Now rest 6hours when i am playing games assuming a 50% load on an avg theres a difference of (307W-112W)[at100%]/2[for 50%]
[Yes i know this is an avg and i am pretty sure consumption will be +or-10%]
Difference = 97.15W = 0.09715units/hr for 6hours = 0.09715*6 = 0.583units/6hr

1.22+.583 = 1.803units/day = 658units/year = 5600rs

I used some other source to calculate power consumptions so i got 6500rs

why a cpu be remained in an overclocked state all the time? do it only when you require.

Limitless said:
Thanks

FX 8350 (13000)
Asus M5A97 EVO R2.0 (8100)
Kingston HyperX Blu 1600 MHz 4 GB (2500)
WD Blue 500 GB (3100)
Zotac GTX 760 2 GB (21000)
Seasonic S12II 520W (4100)
NZXT Gamma (2300)
Dell S2240L (8800)
Lenovo M6811 mice (750)
Any logitech KB (300)
Asus optical drive (1000)

Now going for this config tell me if there is any change

Just some info since I bought my PC from nehru place last weekend. I checked CostToCost and SMC International and then decided to buy from SMC. CTC had the Zotac cards and SMC didn't, neither had NZXT cases, SMC didn't stock Seasonic but they got it because I refused to buy a CM PSU from them on the condition that they cant assist me with the PSU if it goes bad. CTC didn't stock Seasonic either.

Where are you planning to buy from?

Actually computer empire in Nehru place has seasonic psu and cost to cost sells everything at very high price next time check computer empire

or if they don't have I will get corsair gs 600 or 500:thumbup:

Limitless said:
Actually computer empire in Nehru place has seasonic psu and cost to cost sells everything at very high price next time check computer empire or if they don't have I will get corsair gs 600 or 500:thumbup:

Yeah, I thought CTC was supposed to be cheap. I've bought from SMC before so I went there. Will check out Computer Empire next time!

Cost to cost is more costlier because it applies tax in the end of payment and other shopkeepers apply tax on each product due to which the price 1000 to 2000 rs

tubelight said:
Yeah, I thought CTC was supposed to be cheap. I've bought from SMC before so I went there. Will check out Computer Empire next time!

CTC sometimes sells counterfeit products.

:O really?

rijinpk1 said:
CTC sometimes sells counterfeit products.

Have you experienced this? With what products?

tubelight said:
Have you experienced this? With what products?

i heard about this. some of the tdf members can help here. mainly gpus and hdd , i think.

H

the sales people at c3c have lot of attitude and ego, so i have never bought any items from them even if they sell it for a gew bucks cheaper than other shop.

hitman4 said:
the sales people at c3c have lot of attitude and ego, so i have never bought any items from them even if they sell it for a gew bucks cheaper than other shop.

Indeed, I was getting a quote and they gave me a price on RAM and PSU which was like 800 bucks more than what it was selling for on Flipkart. When I mentioned it, the guy just said "buy it online then". That was when I decided they are not getting my business. SMC on the other hand is very friendly and helpful.

H

tubelight said:
Indeed, I was getting a quote and they gave me a price on RAM and PSU which was like 800 bucks more than what it was selling for on Flipkart. When I mentioned it, the guy just said "buy it online then". That was when I decided they are not getting my business. SMC on the other hand is very friendly and helpful.

true that smc guy is really nice but he forces to buy cm psu's as according to him they are better than corsairs.. lol

hitman4 said:
true that smc guy is really nice but he forces to buy cm psu's as according to him they are better than corsairs.. lol

that depend on the models also. most of the pc shops keeps CM psus and many varieties of local psus

hitman4 said:
true that smc guy is really nice but he forces to buy cm psu's as according to him they are better than corsairs.. lol

Yeah! He was upselling CM to me also. I said CM series is pretty bad so he said get the gold 80+ PSU in CM, I said are you giving it to me for 5k?

We were having a good discussion about how SMC should start stocking Corsair and Seasonic

harshilsharma63 said:
> no, i5 4570 is not a beast. It can be easily overthrown by the cheaper FX 8350. Though gaming performance is slightly better in case of Intel.

> Now about your calculation:

according to you:-

money saved annually= Rs.6500 => units consumed annually(considering Rs.6/unit)= 1083.33 units/year = 2.968 units/day = 0.12366 units/hour = 123.66 W of power difference between i5 4570 and FX 8350

Are you saying that you PC is running a render while scanning the PC for malware and compiling Firefox at the same time 24X7?

Check here: AMD FX-8350 - Power Consumption | bit-tech.net (althpugh the comparision doesn't involve i5 4570, we can get an approx result by reducing the power consumption of i5 3570k by 20-30%)

At idle, both consume almost same amount of power and even at load there is 96 W of power difference. Now this can lead to ~5k cash saving, but WHO RUNS THEIR PC AT 100% LOAD 24x7x365?

No game used 100% CPU, so anything but Prime95 or non hardware accelerated rendered running 24x7 can make such difference.

In a nutshell, you'r calculation are nowhere near real world PC usage scenarios.

> Overclocking is very safe now. You cannot burn a CPU unless you put it on fire or there is a manufacturing defect in wither CPU, motherboard or PSU.

I'd disagree with you on this, I mean comparison.
i5 4570 takes zero to no power when idle and whereas FX 8350 takes power.
i5 4570 is better at gaming than FX 8350(Not overclocked) while having MUCH lesser power consumption. Even if you OC your FX 8350 to 4.5 or 4.8 ghz to match the performance of an i5 4570 and it will take about 140W extra than i5 4570. And by no means i5 4570 can be thrown away by a FX 8350 LOL and his PC is for gaming FFS.

BUT I'd also suggest you to go for FX 8350 since at your budget you can't afford i5 with a good powerful GPU. So going with a FX 8350 is a no brainer

.

f**k the budget Intel wins

avinandan012 said:
f**k the budget Intel wins

This.
Because you have to pay a premium for the best.

Nighthawk12 said:
I'd disagree with you on this, I mean comparison.
i5 4570 takes zero to no power when idle and whereas FX 8350 takes power.
i5 4570 is better at gaming than FX 8350(Not overclocked) while having MUCH lesser power consumption. Even if you OC your FX 8350 to 4.5 or 4.8 ghz to match the performance of an i5 4570 and it will take about 140W extra than i5 4570. And by no means i5 4570 can be thrown away by a FX 8350 LOL and his PC is for gaming FFS.

BUT I'd also suggest you to go for FX 8350 since at your budget you can't afford i5 with a good powerful GPU. So going with a FX 8350 is a no brainer .

show me the proof. which cpu is capable of idling in zero power??? it should be atleast 30 watts from cpu itself.

Where to buy from advice. : 4 months back i bought an intel rig from nehru place:

Processor: INTEL I5-3570K
Motherboard: Gigabyte z77x-ud3h
RAM : Gskill ripjaws x 4 gb
PSU : corsair gs600
Cabinet: Cooler master haf 912 usb 3.0 (with side window)
Monitor: Dell s2240l

I first went to smc but they did not have the corsair Psu or the cooler master haf 912 with side window (which is apparently their specialty) then i tried cost to cost -EGO AND HIGH PRICES !

So i called a friend a bought a pc 1 year back from nehru place and he told me to go to a shop by the name of Mass computers.
It had everything i needed,the salesman tried to push me to buy an Asrock motherboard but when i gave him my reasons he calmly listened and agreed.Then i was directed to go to the owner for the billIing. That man was by far the most educated and friendly shop owner in Nehru PLace.

1)Reasonable prices.
2)Friendly and understanding salesperson
3)They are the sole distributors of NXZT cases in Nehru place(and i guess Delhi)
4)Huge variety (specially in cases)
I recommend it.