Gaming PC for around 60k

Sorry for the previous post :lol:

1. What is the purpose of the computer? What all applications and games are you going to run? (Stupid answers like 'gaming' or 'office work' will not work. Be exact. Which games? Which applications? Avoid the word 'et cetera.')
Ans:Basically Gaming.
Games: Assasin's Creed 1,2,brotherhood,revelations,3. COD Black Ops, Crysis 2, Batman Arkham City, Battlefield 3, GtA 4, GTA 5(when it releases), Skyrim 5, Deus Ex Human Revolution.

2 What is your overall budget? If you can extend a bit for a more balanced configuration, then mention this too.
Ans: Rs 60,000. can extend it to 65k

3. Planning to overclock?
Ans: Yes but after a year or two

4. Which Operating System are you planning to use?
Ans: Windows 7 64bit

5. How much hard drive space is needed?
Ans: even 250GB is ok

6. Do you want to buy a monitor? If yes, please mention which screen size and resolution do you want. If you already have a monitor and want to reuse it, again mention the size and resolution of monitor you have.
Ans: Yes a 22-inch full HD monitor

7. Which components you DON'T want to buy or which components you already have and plan on reusing?
Ans:Speakers, UPS

8. When are you planning to buy the system?
Ans: June 2nd week

9. Have you ever built a desktop before or will this be done by an assembler?
Ans:this will be my first time assembling

10. Where do you live? Are you buying locally? Are you open to buying stuff from online shops if you don't get locally?
Ans:Mumbai yes i am buying locally and i don't mind buying online at all.

11. Anything else which you would like to say?
Ans: about the 670 i have read a lot of reviews lately about its awesome performance(some sites giving it a perfect 10) and i was thinking of geting the card from the US(my uncle is going to US on 15th May)

Component Make Price
CPU Core i5-2400 10875
Motherboard Intel DH67CL 5650
RAM G.Skill Value 4GB DDR3 1150
GPU Radeon HD 7850 15200
Optical Drive Asus DRW-24B3ST 1130
Case NZXT Source 210 Elite 2400
PSU SeaSonic S12 II 620 4620
Monitor BenQ G2222HDL 7500
KB + Mouse Logitech G100 1560
Total 50085

I was thinking about this config

CPU Intel Core i5-2500k 12500
Motherboard ASRock Z77 Extreme 4 10000
GPU Radeon HD 7870 ~20000
RAM G.Skill Ripjaws 4GB DDR3 1550
Optical Drive Asus DRW-24B3ST 1110
Case NZXT Source 210 Elite 2400
PSU Seasonic S12 II 620 4620
Monitor Benq G2222HDL 7500
+ one HDD ~ 2k
Cooler for i5 2500k ~ 2k
Total : ~ 65,000

thetechfreak said:
Component Make Price
CPU Core i5-2400 10875
Motherboard Intel DH67CL 5650
RAM G.Skill Value 4GB DDR3 1150
GPU Radeon HD 7850 15200
Optical Drive Asus DRW-24B3ST 1130
Case NZXT Source 210 Elite 2400
PSU SeaSonic S12 II 620 4620
Monitor BenQ G2222HDL 7500
KB + Mouse Logitech G100 1560
Total 50085

I wanna overclock so i think i'll go for an i5 2500k.

T

You won't get the HDD for 2k. Even 250 gb costs around 3k.

^^
won't the price decrease till june 2nd week??

Anyway what do you guys think about my nvidia 670 query will i be able to get aftersale support if it has some kind of international warranty?

I think nobody have any idea about the time when prices are going to decrease.
About international warranty of GTX670, which company are you talking about?

^^
will have to wait and hope till then.

I was thinking asus as their factory overclocked card has awesome reviews!
Actually any reputed company's card will work though i would prefer a factory overclocked ones as i am not gonna overclock for a year

Saumil996 said:
^^
will have to wait and hope till then.

I was thinking asus as their factory overclocked card has awesome reviews!
Actually any reputed company's card will work though i would prefer a factory overclocked ones as i am not gonna overclock for a year

Asus do not provide any international warranty.

Thats disappointing. :-(

Can you guys recommend some good brands that do give international warranty because my uncle is going to come back from US on June 15 so till then there might be a good card released from the manufacturers who give international warranty

Evga provides international warranty now, so if possible get a evga gtx670. The oveclocked one would be better.

Hmmm thats good any gtx 670 can kick a**.

And if the card goes bad will i have to send the card back to US?

Thats no problem any gtx 670 can kick some serious a** !

And if i my card breaks down will i have to send it back to the US ?

Afaik, you will be eligible for warranty, anywhere in the world. The company which handles evga rma in india, will take the rma responsibility. Though I would say wait, if possible.

Wait for what?
Gtx 670 is already released and is grossly overpriced in india

R

^Everything is overpriced here. Lol.

I was saying abt gtx 660. But why take a risk with imported gtx 670? So wait or get 670 now.

Hmm i think i have a solution to eliminate the risk. My uncle is going to meet his son (a techie). So my cousin can test it for me!!

saikiasunny said:
Afaik, you will be eligible for warranty, anywhere in the world. The company which handles evga rma in india, will take the rma responsibility. Though I would say wait, if possible.

Its tirupathi.

Saumil996 said:
Wait for what?
Gtx 670 is already released and is grossly overpriced in india

Where is it available and what is the price?
Enlighten please!

d6bmg said:
Where is it available and what is the price?
Enlighten please!

here's the link
Nvidia GeForce GTX 670 launched in India at Rs. 29,999 - Online Best Latest Price Reviews | Features in India

even if you cant see the cards in the market i think the above statement is good enough to say it is overpriced (please correct me if my logic is wrong i'm still a n00b ).

and is tirupathi good?

Saumil996 said:
Wait for what?
Gtx 670 is already released and is grossly overpriced in india

WTH? where d hell is it listed?

1. Its overpriced if it is really priced @ 30K.
2. I can assure you that it is not available in India. No company imported publicly any 670s till date. And original geforce cards (manufactured by nvidia) are not sold in India.

The Nvidia GeForce GTX 670 GPU is available now from ASUS, MSI, Palit and ZOTAC in India for INR 29,999, inclusive of all taxes

Why the hell did digit put the above line in the article??

^^dont believe everything in the internet

Saumil996 said:
The Nvidia GeForce GTX 670 GPU is available now from ASUS, MSI, Palit and ZOTAC in India for INR 29,999, inclusive of all taxes

Why the hell did digit put the above line in the article??

Ask the writer. :lol:

^^ first thing in the morning

anyway now that i am pretty much getting the GTX 670 will my other components bottleneck it??.

and i have decided CPU Cooler CM Hyper 212 EVO ~ 2k as my CPU cooler

There is no question of bottlenecking anything in your rig.

So here is my final rig

Component Make Price
CPU Intel i5 2500k 12,500
Motherboard Asrock Extreme z77 4 10,000
CPU Cooler CM Hyper 212 EVO 2,000
RAM G.Skill Ripjaws 4GB DDR3 1550
PSU Seasonic S12 II 620 4620
Case NZXT Source 210 Elite 2400
Monitor Benq G2222HDL 7500
Gfx Card EVGA GTX 670 SuperClocked 419.00 $ (price from amazon)
Total = 40,570 + 419.00$

the additional componenents that i need your help with is
1. HDD ~ 3k(or cheaper)
2. Mouse ~ 1.5k
3. Mouse Pad ~ 0.5k
total ~ 5k
I have taken the prices from the rig posted by RiGOD here

IS IT A BEAST ?

with that mobo? NO

Whats wrong with the mobo??

bad llc...
try a Z77

Buy Asus P8Z77-M PRO @~10K

The asus doesn't have a 8+4 power phase but 8+2 isn't 8+4 better for overclocking?

^ Doesn't matter for mild day to day OC'ing. These power phase difference will matter when you push beyond ~4.8GHz.

4.8 ghz :O. anyway can anyone explain to me what is llc and how. It affects overclocking performance?? Google left me confused :-(

if the gtx 670 is going to be priced @30000/- in india ,i dont see any reason to get it,last week smc was selling gigabyte gtx 680 @32100 including shipping

^^

Getting GTX 670 from USA. so will get it around 20k. :-D

Guys which mobo should i buy?!?!

the asrock mobo has bad llc but according to this it really doesn't seem that useful plus all configs seem to have it!

the asus mobo does not have a 8+4 power phase system.

i have even started a poll on the above topic

@OP: LOL. Vote?

^^ i believe in democracy. :-D

Anyway i have a 160GB SATA HDD Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 which i am thinking of reusing to save some cash, its quite old will it bottleneck my system??

HDD never bottleneck any system.

Will the i5 2500k be bottlenecking my graphics card in any way??

No. GTX670 will run with 2500K without any problem.
BTW, getting from USA? You will lose warranty.

Or, you have to send that to USA when it will create any problem.

^^
@ d6bmg read posts 10 and 12 in this thread by saikiasunny they will clear your doubts about the warranty.

Saumil996 said:
^^
@ d6bmg read posts 10 and 12 in this thread by saikiasunny they will clear your doubts about the warranty.

Ah! you buying EVGA!

imo asrock z77 extreme4 is much better than asus z77 mpro,besides, that llc isn't very clear contrasting opinions all round.Some say may occur in matx boards

dfcols71 said:
imo asrock z77 extreme4 is much better than asus z77 mpro,besides, that llc isn't very clear contrasting opinions all round.Some say may occur in matx boards

err?

(u make no sense)
on topic :
Load line calibration essentially boils down to how much vdroop you want to allow the system to have.
Now..from what i have seen on sandy bridges..those chips are pansies when it comes to voltage variations.even a .001 difference screws them up.So its better to have a board which has better control over LLC and vdroop.The extreme 4 is NOT GOOD IN CONTROLLING THE LLC.

^^
I think you should read this article and its next page.

few snippets from the article

If you've ever overclocked a system, chances are that at some point or another you've had opportunity to become upset with your Vdroop "problem." Some users, confused as to why their system refuses to exactly match actual processor supply voltage to the value specified in BIOS, are quick to blame the quality their motherboard; still others find fault with the difference noted between their board's idle and full-load processor supply voltages. Actually, load line droop (Vdroop) is an inherent part of any Intel power delivery design specification and serves an important role in maintaining system stability. In most cases, comments regarding unacceptable power delivery performance are completely unfounded. To make matters worse, unjustified negative consumer perception surrounding this often misunderstood design feature eventually forced a few motherboard manufacturers to respond to enthusiasts' demands for action by adding an option in their BIOS that effectively disables this important function.

and this

Finally, let's take one last real-world look at the consequences of removing Vdroop. ASUS' implementation of this feature, labeled as Load Line Calibration and included with their latest line of motherboards, is particularly worthy of our attention for a number of reasons. The first is that setting lower voltages with this option enabled actually results in a condition in which the CPU voltage under load is higher than the idle voltage. Imagine our confusion as we desperately struggle to understand why our system is Prime95 stable for days yet continues to crash under absolutely no load. What's more, in spite of the absence of droop and for reasons unknown, enabling this feature artificially raises our CPU's minimum stable core voltage at 4.0GHz from 1.28V to about 1.33V. As a result, our system uses more power under load than is otherwise necessary. Our efforts to reduce our processor's supply voltage backfired - instead of lowering the system's total power consumption we managed to affect a 20W increase.

i think we can conclude from this that llc does more harm than good.

u do know that the scenario has changed with sandy bridge?
its kinda point less when someone sets off his mind to a particular inference and refuses to look beyond it...

if the asrock z77 extreme 4 was such a problematic board it would t be selling every where in the world ,beside in newegg it no 3 in topselling z77 motherboard.in many other places it out off stock,I hardly see anyone buying the asus z77 mpro-despite almost similar prices

@sumonpathak
Since you feel so passionately about it i think it would be fair to give you a chance to support your statement for llc with any article, incident etc.

sumonpathak said:
u do know that the scenario has changed with sandy bridge?.

please enlighten!

its kinda point less when someone sets off his mind to a particular inference and refuses to look beyond it...

i assure you i can and will(if you give me a reasonable explanation) look beyond my initial inference.

Anyway how is the Deepcool frostwin compared to CM Hyper 212+ ?? it seems to have a push-pull design like the noctua d14

and my cousin (who is also building the same pc at same time) wants a 24-incher rather than a 22, he is willing to pay around 10k for it. I would like your suggestions (btw is it okay to post this particular query here?)

i dont think you can get 24 led monitor for 10000/-may be some cheaper brands-zebronics,circle

Saumil996 said:
@sumonpathak
Since you feel so passionately about it i think it would be fair to give you a chance to support your statement for llc with any article, incident etc.

do me a favor......don't try to compare a obsolete architecture with current gen...
the voltage toleration level was diff with 45NM and 65NM..they could take a nuclear attack...but with sandy bridge the toleration level is pretty low...so good llc control is essential.
Its a pity nobody decided to write about it...
and ppl are still quoting an old article.

sumonpathak said:
do me a favor......don't try to compare a obsolete architecture with current gen...
the voltage toleration level was diff with 45NM and 65NM..they could take a nuclear attack...but with sandy bridge the toleration level is pretty low...so good llc control is essential.
Its a pity nobody decided to write about it...
and ppl are still quoting an old article.

so you are basically saying that vdroop is bad for sandy bridge(32nm) and we should buy a mobo with good llc which reduces vdroop?

isn't there a good 24-inch for even 12k? (he is willing to go that high)

Saumil996 said:
so you are basically saying that vdroop is bad for sandy bridge(32nm) and we should buy a mobo with good llc which reduces vdroop?

yes.
the voltage fluctuation is pretty bad for 32NM...

afaik even anandtech doesnt see much of problem with llc of asrock z77 exreme -4 motherboard
AnandTech - Intel Z77 Motherboard Review with Ivy Bridge - ASRock, ASUS, Gigabyte, and MSI

I5 2500K
Asrock Z77 Extreme 4
8 GB RAM
500 GB HDD
ASUS DVD ROM
SEASONIC S12 620W
CORSAIR CARBIDE 400R
Altec Lansing BXR1221
LOGITECH Combo or Microsoft Combo
DELL S2220L HD LED
Numeric 1KVA
HD 7850 2 GB

Saumil996 said:
Anyway how is the Deepcool frostwin compared to CM Hyper 212+ ?? it seems to have a push-pull design like the noctua d14

From the design, Deepcool frostwin is obviously better choice than Hyper212 and it would be far more superior.

About motherboard: If you are willing to go with z77 extreme4 despite warning of sumon, well, its yours to decide. We are here only to suggest and final decision should be made by you.

CPU COOLER WITH 120MM BLACK FAN

I recommend this for a CPU cooler, there are two wires supplied with the fan, attach one without the resister and voila, Get cooling performance of a D14 for half the price.

^^err???
do some research before commenting...D14 is better because of its cooling capacity.
Not for just two wires...

^^err???
do some research before commenting...D14 is better because of its cooling capacity.
Not for just two wires...

Of course I exactly know the difference between both.
D14 is way ahead in terms of quality and performance@low noise levels.
Its just that performance very near can be achieved by running the fan at higher speeds at a much much lower price. VFM product, I read many reviews.
D14 is another league all together so is its price.

Numbers here Performa @ 80% lock(normal cooling mode)
Even without the resistor removed(normal operation, it is very close to D14 in terms of cooling (its obviously nosier then D14)
Zalman 10X Performa review
Zalman CNPS10X Performa CPU Cooler Review | Hardware Secrets
*www.tweaktown.com/reviews/3199/zalman_cnps10x_performa_cpu_cooler/index6.html

Quote from Guru3d

So, overall we see really good performance, but if you want to it can be extyremely good ... There is a second trick, you can remove the resistor wire from the fan cabling, increasing fan RPM and thus performance. By doing so you'll notice the 10X Performa leveling down to the same performance level as say a Noctua NH-D14. But in all fairness, noise levels will rise. Your choice of course, but choices are always good to have.

I don't want to misguide anybody, just suggesting a VFM product.

Omi said:
Of course I exactly know the difference between both.
D14 is way ahead in terms of quality and performance@low noise levels.
Its just that performance very near can be achieved by running the fan at higher speeds at a much much lower price. VFM product, I read many reviews.
D14 is another league all together so is its price.

Numbers here Performa @ 80% lock(normal cooling mode)
Even without the resistor removed(normal operation, it is very close to D14 in terms of cooling (its obviously nosier then D14)
Zalman 10X Performa review
Zalman CNPS10X Performa CPU Cooler Review | Hardware Secrets
Zalman CNPS10X Performa CPU Cooler - Test System &Testing Results :: TweakTown USA Edition

Quote from Guru3d

I don't want to misguide anybody, just suggesting a VFM product.

thanks for the input but i am not that keen to mess around with wires as it is the first pc i am building(i don't have the confidence) i would like to keep it simple.

thanks for the input but i am not that keen to mess around with wires as it is the first pc i am building(i don't have the confidence) i would like to keep it simple.

Its your choice

But if you have read the reviews you will find out that even without touching anything its a great cooler at that price. Performing in the Segment of high end coolers at much lower price.

And that wire part is not at all messy, its very easy,
You can keep it for later when you want to OC seriously. As the Guru3d review says its always good to have options.

What is your Final Configuration

After reading about the Zalman I might go for it but can anyone give me an estimate of how loud 74dB is ?? I know a factory has a loudness of 80 dB (but it isn,t linearly increasing quantity so can anyone one of you guys please give me an estimate)

@Sainatarajan
My final config is
i5 2500k
Asus p8z77-m pro/ Asrock z77 extreme 4 (still have to decide)
EVGA GTX 670 (from U.s.)
Seasonic S12 612w
Asus DVD drive
NZXT source elite 210
Zalman cnps 10x performs (if the noise is tolerable)

70 is loud,
but you will not reach that easily, its when things are taken above 4+ghz, extreme levels...
case dampens the sound but you will still hear it at 70db

does not matter if you use headphones.
if noise is an issue, you will have to spend more.

it will be 40-50 db normally, 60+ at load.

60 ain't that bad is it??
if it is not that bad I might buy after market fans when I'll overclock it after a year or 2 for a quiter experience :]

74DB is loud, way too loud to use inside chissis.

For cooler look at: Deepcool Frostwin @2.7K
Link: Flipkart link

i don't know about any "Asus P8Z77-M PROv", which is listed above in the poll.

I think he is talking about Asus P8Z77-M PRO.

MatchBoxx said:
i don't know about any "Asus P8Z77-M PROv", which is listed above in the poll.

^^
sorry typo! its just Asus P8Z77-M PRO.
i'll probably go for the deepcool frostwin or should i go for CM Hyper 212+ and one fan??

Saumil996 said:
i'll probably go for the deepcool frostwin or should i go for CM Hyper 212+ and one fan??

Go with DeepCool Frostwin if possible; if not then go for Thermalright TRUE Spirit with Push/Pull setup. (1.7k @ theitwares.com it's local for you - mumbai)
Thermalright Cogage TRUE Spirit CPU Cooler

yes thermalright true spirit is more vfm

^^
the one which you suggested doesn't support LGA 1155

Be happy with Hyper 212 EVO.

are you sure about that
Product | Thermalright Ultimate CPU Cooling Solutions! USA
HARDOCP - True Spirit 120 - Thermalright TRUE Spirit CPU Air Cooler Review

d6bmg said:
Be happy with Hyper 212 EVO.

seriously all these different coolers are making my head spin :-?

dfcols71 said:
are you sure about that
Product | Thermalright Ultimate CPU Cooling Solutions! USA
HARDOCP - True Spirit 120 - Thermalright TRUE Spirit CPU Air Cooler Review

^^
I am talking about the one recommended by him this one

Saumil996 said:
^^
I am talking about the one recommended by him this one

If your referring the compatibility mentioned on theitwares.com, check this out - Product | Thermalright Ultimate CPU Cooling Solutions! USA

And more often if you still have any doubt go for CM 212 Evo as suggested by d6bmg. (I am proud-full owner of CM 212 Evo.

)

^^ Good to know.
Which method did you use while applying the TIM.

Do you guys have any idea how much will the GTX 670 cost in India.?Shopkeepers in the U.S. are quoting around 25k. :cry:

>> off topic
How about starting a new thread specially for discussion about Vdroop and LLC(Load Line Calibration)?? There seem to be many contrasting views on it.

Saumil996 said:
Which method did you use while applying the TIM.

For True Spirit, which has flat base, just a tiny drop (size of the pea) of TIM on the CPU and for CM 212 Evo, which doesn't have flat base, one tiny drop (half size of the pea) on alternative copper pipes of the HEAT SINK.

Read this article for more info -
Best Thermal Paste Application Methods

pcforumguy said:
For True Spirit, which has flat base, just a tiny drop (size of the pea) of TIM on the CPU and for CM 212 Evo, which doesn't have flat base, one tiny drop (half size of the pea) on alternative copper pipes of the HEAT SINK.

Read this article for more info -
Best Thermal Paste Application Methods

^^
thanks for the article was really helpful.

Anyway i have had some experience with micro atx boards and i would prefer an ATX board anyway how is the asus z77 based p877-vlx or Gigabyte ga z77 d3h compared to the asrock z77 extreme 4

please read the links in my last post of this thread
*www.thinkdigit.com/forum/pc-components-configurations/157306-need-new-semi-gaming-pc-under-80k.html

Gigabyte ga z77 d3h is a very good board at that price range. If available, buy it.

^^
and i meant the g77p d3 not the g77 d3h (whats the difference between the two ? )
the d3 is available on flipkart for 10kflipkart link
Does it support Sli i would like to know as i'm getting a GTX 670 and i might put another one after a 3 yrs (or something like that) and do a minor upgrade to make this pc last longer!

GA Z77 D3 is a good board, but you can't run SLI in it.

Then again it comes down to Asus P8Z77-M PRO@~11K for SLI setup.

Just found out the difference between the two.
listed below are the things z77-d3h has but the z77p-d3 doesn't
1. Etron EJ168 chips [what do these do]
2. 1 x serial port header [what does this do]
3. 5x audio jacks (Center/Subwoofer Speaker Out, Rear Speaker Out, Side Speaker Out, Line In/Mic In, Line Out) [useless for me]
4. LucidLogix Virtu MVP (seems important)

BTW it is available on primeabgb for 7k prime abgb link :bananana:

and how much does the d3h cost?

d6bmg said:
GA Z77 D3 is a good board, but you can't run SLI in it.

Then again it comes down to Asus P8Z77-M PRO@~11K for SLI setup.

I'm against mATX boards

Saumil996 said:
and how much does the d3h cost?
I'm against mATX boards

Buy D3H also doesn't support SLI which is one of your requirement.

saumil996 said:
just found out the difference between the two.
Listed below are the things z77-d3h has but the z77p-d3 doesn't
1. Etron ej168 chips [what do these do]

usb 3.0

How about Asus P8Z77-V PRO instead of Asus P8Z77-M PRO?

sharang.d said:
How about Asus P8Z77-V PRO instead of Asus P8Z77-M PRO?

too expensive costs 15k.

I think in a 60k budget you could squeeze in a v-pro. Well your choice

Guys just got off the phone with Golchha computers. they are giving the Asus GTX 670 Direct CU II for 25,000 + 600 shipping to Mumbai!

Should i buy it right now or should i wait till June 11th and hope for a price drop(The rupee is becoming weaker by the day).
GUYS REPLY ASAP PLEASE

GTX670 @25.6K is a very good deal. You can't possibly get anything better than that. But look at your total budget before buying.

This is sort of my final config
Processor --- Intel i5 2500k - 11,500
Motherboard ------ Gigabyte GA Z77P - D3 < 10,000 or Asrock Z77 Extreme 4 =10,000
Graphics Card ------ ASUS GTX 670 Direct CU II ------ 25,000
RAM------ Gskill Ripjaws 4GB DDR3 ------1550
PSU ----Seasonic S12 II 620 ---------4620
Case ----NZXT Source 210 Elite -------2400
Monitor ----- Benq G2222HDL ------- 7500
HDD ------ WD Black 250GB--------- around 3000
CPU COOLER ------- CM Hyper 212 EVO ~ 2k or Thermalight True spirit 120 < 2k

If i am getting taking the Gigabyte mobo from prime abgb i'll easily be under 65k.

And i'm gonna buy two of each component so i might be able to shave off a few thousand more from the total :mrgreen:

Anyway final problem
MOTHERBOARD:
Gigabyte GA Z77P - D3
1. No SLI
2. No Lucid Virtu Universal MVP
3.Better build quality

v/s

Asrock Z77 Extreme 4

1. SLI READY
2. Has Lucid Virtu Universal MVP (It makes a difference of a few FPS right?)
3. Its an asrock :wink:

I would like a SLI Mobo (Seems more future proof) but if the LLC problem of the Extreme 4 is really bad (I haven't yet found a story on the net) i will go for the gigabyte

Any expert advice on my query?

if SLI is not an absolute must then u may try this
ASUS P8Z77-M Motherboard | Motherboard | Flipkart.com
NO SLI..BUT Virtu enabled...
OR @ 13K this...
*www.flipkart.com/asus-p8z77-m-pro-motherboard/p/itmd8b8vrzhybxbs
all present...
and if u buy two u can get a discount.

sumonpathak said:
if SLI is not an absolute must then u may try this
ASUS P8Z77-M Motherboard | Motherboard | Flipkart.com
NO SLI..BUT Virtu enabled...
OR @ 13K this...
ASUS P8Z77-M PRO Motherboard | Motherboard | Flipkart.com
all present...
and if u buy two u can get a discount.

difference between the two boards?

sumonpathak said:
@ 13K this...
ASUS P8Z77-M PRO Motherboard | Motherboard | Flipkart.com
all present...
and if u buy two u can get a discount.

Is this board big enough for SLI? (I know SLI depends upon the PCI express lane) but its mATX i'm scared the motherboard will become too cramped. :?:

MatchBoxx said:
difference between the two boards?

erm...kinda told u in the post u quoted

Saumil996 said:
Is this board big enough for SLI? (I know SLI depends upon the PCI express lane) but its mATX i'm scared the motherboard will become too cramped.

shouldn't be a problem...make sure case is not cramped

Ordering the GTX 670 from Golchha tomorrow :-D

So i'll have the baby with me till Sunday :bananana:

Anyway looks like i'm back to choosing between the Asrock Extreme 4 and ASUS P877m pro. :lol:

Guys how about the Extreme 6 i read that dfcols71 got it for 12.5 k seems pretty good imo

seems good...but still am scared for the llc issue...
better get an asus

^^
Even the extreme 6 has an llc issue?!? Link please

suman show the link of the asrock z77 extreme model mobos llc problem,afaik they are fine. some previous generation mobos had the problems besides the asrock z77 extreme series is selling like hotcakes, you can look in many computer forums many guys are building their rigs based on z77 extreme 4,they are not fools to buy it if there was major problem,moreover none of the reviews have mentioned any such major problem regarding that mobo

4-Way Intel Z77 Motherboard Round-up > Final Thoughts - TechSpot Reviews

ASRock Z77 Extreme6 : Six $160-220 Z77 Motherboards, Benchmarked And Reviewed
ASRock Z77 Extreme4 Review - Introduction
ocaholic - Z77 Mainboard Charts: 13 Modelle getestet - update ASUS Maximus V Gene - Charts - Reviews
ocaholic - Review: ASRock Z77 Extreme 6 mit Sandy Bridge - Mainboards - Reviews

^^
Where did you get your mobo from??

According to this review Extreme 4's llc is not as great as the asus.

But what i am more concerned about it is the Extreme 6's llc problems (Since it costs close to the ASUS m-pro )

Saumil996 said:
^^
Even the extreme 6 has an llc issue?!? Link please

i set 1.24 at bios....the bugger takes it to 1.35...guess its ok..
this forum is seeing its share of asrock fever..i will let it pass...
get the extreme 6....

sumonpathak said:
i set 1.24 at bios....the bugger takes it to 1.35...guess its ok..

You have an extreme 6 ?!?
From where and for how much did you get it for?

look in this link you will get the info
*www.thinkdigit.com/forum/cpu-motherboards/145988-asrock-biostar-motherboard-sellers-india-5.html
besides its available at hardwire.in-12999/-,do enquire in primeabgb also

Saumil996 said:
You have an extreme 6 ?!?
From where and for how much did you get it for?

got it from a friend in UK...sent it back...was thoroughly disgusted...

sumonpathak said:
erm...kinda told u in the post u quoted

ooops. didn't notice it.

Another thing thing I wanted to tell you guys is that I am going for the dell st2220l and not the benq model after reading about desijatt's and rigod's experience with it.
Any other monitor out there which is more vfm than the dell?

Finally the motherboard problem.

it sort of finally boils down to
ATX and bad LLC vs mATX and good LLC
Will have to see which one carries more weight

^^ i have the Dell ST2220L. Its awesome! :razz:

Saumil996 said:
Another thing thing I wanted to tell you guys is that I am going for the dell st2220l and not the benq model after reading about desijatt's and rigod's experience with it.
Any other monitor out there which is more vfm than the dell?

Finally the motherboard problem.
it sort of finally boils down to
ATX and bad LLC vs mATX and good LLC
Will have to see which one carries more weight

Dell ST2220L is better than BenQ2222HDL. But both have color bleeding problem which is normal with all TN panel LED monitors.

sumonpathak said:
seems good...but still am scared for the llc issue...
better get an asus

these minute overclocking details and issues should be a concern for pro-overclockers, (which you are), but i don't think that common users like me, OP should be much concerned about these issues. If the PC runs smooth and healthy with asrock, why should he give a damn about llc!!? OP isn't going to set a world record for overclocking, i guess. TDF veterans have advised OP as loud and clear as they could, now it's his call. :wink:

i would be more worried of the quality of sound on asus boards except for deluxe and sabretooth all other asus boards use the intel sound chip instead of realtek or similar stuff

MatchBoxx said:
these minute overclocking details and issues should be a concern for pro-overclockers, (which you are), but i don't think that common users like me, OP should be much concerned about these issues. If the PC runs smooth and healthy with asrock, why should he give a damn about llc!!? OP isn't going to set a world record for overclocking, i guess. TDF veterans have advised OP as loud and clear as they could, now it's his call.

yup.....but the problem is anything over 4Ghz will cause issues for him

dfcols71 said:
i would be more worried of the quality of sound on asus boards except for deluxe and sabretooth all other asus boards use the intel sound chip instead of realtek or similar stuff

Get your facts right boy...
every Z77 board from Asus uses Realtek audio chip..except the maximus V Gene
If you don't know about anything else other than a specific brand then talk about that brand only...don't spread false info...

did you read any reviews read this
Well, that kind of depends what you want. The MSI one got a couple of advantages over the Asus one

- Z77A-GD65 comes with a much better Audio Chip, ALC898. While the Asus one got ALC892. Bot of them got intel nics, which is good.
- Z77A-GD65 have lower power consumption than the Asus one

Which ASUS Z77 motherboard? - General-Motherboard - Motherboards-Memory

also see this
20 Intel Z77 motherboards reviewed and compared | Hardware.Info United Kingdom

and this
20 Intel Z77 motherboards reviewed and compared | Hardware.Info United Kingdom
read reviews before commenting on any issue,not buzz out unsubstantiated rumors

dfcols71 said:
i would be more worried of the quality of sound on asus boards except for deluxe and sabretooth all other asus boards use the intel sound chip instead of realtek or similar stuff

dfcols71 said:
did you read any reviews read this
Well, that kind of depends what you want. The MSI one got a couple of advantages over the Asus one

- Z77A-GD65 comes with a much better Audio Chip, ALC898. While the Asus one got ALC892. Bot of them got intel nics, which is good.
- Z77A-GD65 have lower power consumption than the Asus one

Another

FYI: Remember a simple rule, except for GD80 (which is one of the top boards made on that particular chipset), and in some rare cases GD65 (not applicable here), MSI boards are as bad as any board many by low end company.

dfcols71 said:
read reviews before commenting on any issue,not buzz out unsubstantiated rumors

what rumors?
ever tried running any chip over its rated speed?then u will know what llc is..and y u need it....
:mrgreen:

anyhoo....
U were hell bent on asrock...now u shifted to MSI...sound like a asus hater to me

or just posting for post counts...
If you have tried too see at the bigger picture...Op would have benefitted from the Asus..even a GB..
But since no one is bothered...its better not to talk to walls...
oh and btw....if the OP is a true audiophile...he will buy a sound card..
For me...its just doesn't matter....i pointed out about the chips because u said stuffs like they have intel audio chips and all.
From the same review...i link some stats.
*uk.hardware.info/reviews/2672/19/2...gy-consumption-without-separate-graphics-card
power consumption
3D Mark Vantage
Z77 Xtreme 4=112Watt
Mpro=97Watt
Gd 65=91.1Watt
Cinebench
Z77 Xtreme 4=110 watt
Mpro=94.6 Watt
Gd 65=88.1 Watt
Idle
Z77 Xtreme 4=49.1 Watt
Mpro= 44.1 Watt
Gd 65=35.7 watt

GD 65 Should consume low power because the no of on-board peripherals are low

So considering the recent state of power cost Z77 Extreme 4 should not be considered.
As higher power consumption=high power cost=bigger hole in pocket.

EDIT=ninja'd by d6bmg

sumonpathak said:
what rumors?
ever tried running any chip over its rated speed?then u will know what llc is..and y u need it....

anyhoo....
U were hell bent on asrock...now u shifted to MSI...sound like a asus hater to me or just posting for post counts...
If you have tried too see at the bigger picture...Op would have benefitted from the Asus..even a GB..
But since no one is bothered...its better not to talk to walls...
oh and btw....if the OP is a true audiophile...he will buy a sound card..
For me...its just doesn't matter....i pointed out about the chips because u said stuffs like they have intel audio chips and all.
From the same review...i link some stats.
20 Intel Z77 motherboards reviewed and compared | Hardware.Info United Kingdom
power consumption
3D Mark Vantage
Z77 Xtreme 4=112Watt
Mpro=97Watt
Gd 65=91.1Watt
Cinebench
Z77 Xtreme 4=110 watt
Mpro=94.6 Watt
Gd 65=88.1 Watt
Idle
Z77 Xtreme 4=49.1 Watt
Mpro= 44.1 Watt
Gd 65=35.7 watt

GD 65 Should consume low power because the no of on-board peripherals are low

So considering the recent state of power cost Z77 Extreme 4 should not be considered.
As higher power consumption=high power cost=bigger hole in pocket.

EDIT=ninja'd by d6bmg

told ya.

[underlined quote]

you have given no of evidence of asrock mobo llc problems ,if it your personal views stick it with yourself, if some can live without the ivy bridge ,i dont see any problems with slightly increased power consumption ,year a 16000 board + soundcard , your posts shows you are blind asus believer

dfcols71 said:
you have given no of evidence of asrock mobo llc problems ,if it your personal views stick it with yourself, if some can live without the ivy bridge ,i dont see any problems with slightly increased power consumption ,year a 16000 board + soundcard , your posts shows you are blind asus believer

you can't really blame ASUS for making nice products.

besides thre asrock has the Audio Chip, ALC898

my comments where addressed to sumon pathak

besides why dont you link all the stats to show asus in true picture

d6mbg and suman pathak keep your personal preference to yourselves instead of trying to gang against a mobo manufacturer without any evidence at all

dfcols71 said:
i would be more worried of the quality of sound on asus boards except for deluxe and sabretooth all other asus boards use the intel sound chip instead of realtek or similar stuff

I am not an audiophile i lived with an extremely shitty Mitashi headphones for months so sound ain't a problem

sumonpathak said:
yup.....but the problem is anything over 4Ghz will cause issues for him

What kind of problems(just curious)

Anyway I have finally come to a decision I AM NOT BUYING THE ASROCK EXTREME 4/6.

My reasons are

4 Ghz is too less i was thinking of overclocking it to 4.5
I am ditching the SLI feature because i had planned to SLI the card after 2-3 years and it would be stupid to do that because after 3 years a better card will obviously come along and it would be wiser to go for that then going for another GTX 670.

Does my second point make sense?

Anyway i have narrowed my list down to
1. Asus p877 v-lx
2. Gigabyte GA Z-77 d3h (If i can find it in the market)

yours choice ,afterall its your money

besides if you think the asrock cant overclock greatly you are extremely mistaken,especially asrockz77 extreme-6

Saumil996 said:
What kind of problems(just curious)

basically..the vcore would be unstable...in turn it will affect performance and stability.

T

sumonpathak said:
basically..the vcore would be unstable...in turn it will affect performance and stability.

Will it effect the lifetime of VRMs ?

yeah asrock z 77 extreme 6 cant overclock no wonder why it set the world record
ASRock Z77 Extreme6 Overclock Intel Core i7-3770K CPU To 6.9 GHz With LN2 Cooling | techPowerUp

dfcols71 said:
you have given no of evidence of asrock mobo llc problems ,if it your personal views stick it with yourself, if some can live without the ivy bridge ,i dont see any problems with slightly increased power consumption ,year a 16000 board + soundcard , your posts shows you are blind asus believer

dude...i have changed board more than u will ever do in ur life time...so stop bullshitting...am begging you..
as far as i have seen the vcore and other voltages are heavily increased by the asrock bios in windows environment...and dats bad news...u will get more perf initially and gradually ur chip will degrade and one fine dy it will go the silicone heaven....
btw...for your info...my first board ever was an asrock...back then they used to make decent boards...
now all they do is call other companies cheat and fake and unreal...

the_conqueror said:
Will it effect the lifetime of VRMs ?

yes..

dfcols71 said:
yeah asrock z 77 extreme 6 cant overclock no wonder why it set the world record
ASRock Z77 Extreme6 Overclock Intel Core i7-3770K CPU To 6.9 GHz With LN2 Cooling | techPowerUp

that was a cherry sample...u know dat...right?
62X multi...108Bclk...single core validation

cherry sample to your bullshits statements without ,i will take it anytime any day,are you the onlyone who has tried an asrock z77 extreme6 mobo- spare me the crap

dfcols71 said:
cherry sample to your bullshits statements without ,i will take it anytime any day,are you the onlyone who has tried an asrock z77 extreme6 mobo- spare me the crap

*i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/009/832/dafuq-did-i-just-read-meme.jpg

@dfcols71 and @sumonpathak
CHILL GUYS!! It is just a motherboard the world is not going to end (though i must admit i enjoyed the fight :wink:

)

^^am cool

i haven nothing more to say in this matter except any individual experience against multitude of reviews you be the judge

Now can someone please help me choose between the gigabyte and asus motherboards i shortlisted earlier and i am open to other boards too

except the extreme 4

both looks pretty good on paper...jo mile le lo

saumil pal more than enough advice and reviews have already been given ,it for you to make the choice

dfcols71 said:
i would be more worried of the quality of sound on asus boards except for deluxe and sabretooth all other asus boards use the intel sound chip instead of realtek or similar stuff

And

dfcols71 said:
besides thre asrock has the Audio Chip, ALC898

If you are so much worried about Audio chip being used in motherboard, then,
Either you (or the concerned persons) should buy a sound card (again Asus Xonar STX/D2/HDAV/D1/H6 are the best, lot better than Creative x-fi cards) from Asus. <-- See here we go with Asus once again.
Or, Buy ROG series boards with inbuilt SupremeFX X-Fi.

dfcols71 said:
besides why dont you link all the stats to show asus in true picture

Enlighten us with true picture please.

dfcols71 said:
d6mbg and suman pathak keep your personal preference to yourselves instead of trying to gang against a mobo manufacturer without any evidence at all

Talking about personal preference, I have/had motherboards from Asus, Gigabyte, MSI & AsRock (this AsRock board is of Socket 478, imported from USA in 2003, long long before AsRock made its entry in Indian Market), and almost same thing goes with Sumon, so its not about personal preference for us (at least me), its all about quality and durability.

And You have AsRock Z77 Extreme6. Ironic isn't it? Specially when people always think that they own teh best brand/thing in the market.

I'm not saying all AsRock boards are bad.
Its Z68-extreme4/extreme6 were good vfm boards.

But the problem is with Z77 extreme4.

When people have limited amount of budget its good to have option with cheap (money wise) boards like these, but suggesting Z77-extreme4 in 60K,80K threads are nothing but stupidity.
Same thing goes with suggesting Z77 boards with 2500K & 2600K. Sheer waste of money.

About that LLC problem, I would like to suggest you to OC your 2600K to, say, 4.5GHz. You have to set everything manually. Do that for, say, 7-8 hours, 1 week at max. You will, yourself, can see the problem. (Before doing this, confirm the warranty T&C from Mediaman)

*Peace*

@OP: Buy what you feel is the best. This post is not meant to you.

Saumil996 said:
Anyway i have narrowed my list down to
1. Asus p877 v-lx
2. Gigabyte GA Z-77 d3h (If i can find it in the market)

My vote will go for Gigabyte GA Z-77 d3h.
For availability, check with SMC International.

Did you bother to go to the review,you keep flogging a dead horse without substantiating anything the performance among all those boards are almost the same except for power
consumption where the asrock slightly worse off,and in audio much better than asus,if the board was having a major problem, they wouldn't be lots of people buying it when they can get similar priced ,better quality mobos.d6bmg-all you keep saying because its cheap its got to be bad,without giving any supporting evidence,talking about past 3 generation asrock mobos quality is in no way going to take away asrock z77 extreme4 good features @vfm
you keep saying ,it cant overclock beyond a certain limits ,but lots of user are getting it to 4.6-4.7 with ivy here in these forums as well as lots of guys purchasing it
**Official** ASRock Z77 Discussion/Owners Club
Asrock Z77 Extreme 4 Owners Thread - AnandTech Forums
you have not produced any hard evidence it cant overclock decently,nor is there any evidence that its long term stability of the board is a problem .when you come up with those evidence we can talk,until that ! you may be the blowing the propaganda of asus afaik

Now I have a 40-inch TV connected to an Onkyo 3400 Home theater. I would like to game on that sometime. So should i connect the PC's HDMI cable directly to the AVR or should i connect the S/PDIF Out (assuming i buy the gigabyte board) to the AVR and connect the VGA out to the TV??

gaming is determined more by gpu than mobo/cpu@ high resolution ,besides whats the resolution of tv and graphics card,only thing a decent mobo and high/medium cpu is recommended not to bottleneck your gaming-mobo dvi-d/hdmi port to tv hdmi port is the best

^^
I forgot the TV has HDMI ports too!

.

But sound is controlled by AVR. most of the devices like tata sky hd, dvd player etc. are connected to the AVR. so my basic question is should i connect the pc to the avr via HDMI or the tv via HDMI and the AVR via S/PDIF for enjoying 5.1 channel surround sound?

I have lots of little noob questions :noob:

.should i post them here or should i start a new thread in hardware q&a section?

shoot

first.

I which direction should i orient the cpu cooler?
should i attach the cpu cooler once i put the motherboard(with the backplate attached) in the case or before.
even though the hyper 212 evo has a continuous direct contact thingy its base is flat and looks like a sungle surface so should i use the rice grain on cpu method or two lines on heatsink method

1.keep the fans facing upwards if possible...
2.depends on you..
3.two lines...

sumonpathak said:
2.depends on you..

which method is easier ?

after you put on the case

do i need to wear an anti-static wrist strap while building the pc?

no need as such...just touch any metal to ground urself...

^^
means that i'll be the conductor between the metal and the ground?
Btw just realised the solution to my first noob question, i'm pretty sure a graphic card can't transmit sound! So hdmi to tv and s/pdif to avr!
I think i'm done with the noob questions for the day. Will be back with more :-D

Saumil996 said:
Btw just realised the solution to my first noob question, i'm pretty sure a graphic card can't transmit sound! So hdmi to tv and s/pdif to avr!

You got it exactly right.

Get this ASAP! Logitech Gaming Mouse G500 for Rs. 1096. I have placed an order just now! :mrgreen:

Have you Bought your components ?

^^
the graphic cards will be coming tomorrow and the rest of the components will be bought after june 10th.

@matchboxx- its out of stock :cry:

thanks for the update though

any idea what qualifies as 'lint free cloth' that is used to clean the processor and
cooler before applying the thermal paste?? a google search gave out various options from coffee filters to socks! :shock:

BTW hows this z68 motherboard seems to have pretty good specifications and is cheap!
please reply asap regarding the motherboard

^^You can use the same cloth that comes with spectacles (for cleaning lens).

ASRock Z77 Extreme 4 is the one to grab.

RiGOD said:
^^You can use the same cloth that comes with spectacles (for cleaning lens).

Thank You

ASRock Z77 Extreme 4 is the one to grab.

I like the board you mentioned
But doesn't it have LLC problems?

^^pick a board u want...don't want to start the fight again

^^
that's a bit rude but one can't deny the fact what you have said is true. You guys are there to advice the final decision still rests with me

Anyway.
what type of configuration(push or pull) will the fan that comes with the thermalight true 120 or cm hyper 212 evo have?

err...didn't mean to be rude re!

Saumil996 said:
what type of configuration(push or pull) will the fan that comes with the thermalight true 120 or cm hyper 212 evo have?

Probably in push setup. But you can easily install it whichever way you want.
Both True Spirit and 212 EVO come with only one fan; If you want dual fan (push/pull) setup, buy a extra fan or go with Deepcool Frostwin.

saumil pick the board you want ,besides you are not going for some grand overclocking competition or planning to run your pc@5ghz 24/7

Guys i think i have found the perfect board for me!
Gigabyte z68
How is it? Seems better than the z77 d3h
any idea if any dealer in Mumbai will have this board?

Didn't get the graphics card today because of the stupid Bandh :banghead:

hope it comes tomorrow

^^erm try Prime ABGB...
nice find

btw...if yer lucky...u can get 5Ghz + on that board

24/7...

lower price : Theitdepot - Gigabyte GA-Z68XP-UD3R 32GB DDR3 Intel Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-Z68XP-UD3 Motherboard | Motherboard | Flipkart.com

sumonpathak said:
^^erm try Prime ABGB...
nice find
btw...if yer lucky...u can get 5Ghz + on that board 24/7...

lower price : Theitdepot - Gigabyte GA-Z68XP-UD3R 32GB DDR3 Intel Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-Z68XP-UD3 Motherboard | Motherboard | Flipkart.com

Thanks for the links! Anyway whats the difference between a z77 and a z68 mobo?

How is this motherboard
ASUS M4A78LT-M

101gamzer said:
How is this motherboard
ASUS M4A78LT-M

Its an AMD based processor's mobo and i have an intel one but thanks for the input!

Saumil996 said:
Thanks for the links! Anyway whats the difference between a z77 and a z68 mobo?

on board usb 3 and thunderbolt...OC wise...it varies within the permissible limit.

sumonpathak said:
on board usb 3 and thunderbolt...OC wise...it varies within the permissible limit.

Well this board has usb 3.0 and one can't have everything! but you lost me on the OC part. Do you mean z68 and z77 have different OC limits? Cuz i'm really thinking about running my processor at 5GHz+

from my experience..ya....
5Ghz depends on the chips too

will post a review of Z77 soon..

Saumil996 said:
Cuz i'm really thinking about running my processor at 5GHz+

Some late night suggestion: Be practical. Please stop living in dream.
Getting stable 5GHz needs to fill up lot of factors, depends heavily on the chip, your OC'ing experience (which I presume is nil at this point of time just from your post), Corsair H100 as cpu cooler (Noctua NH-D14 can't push beyond 4.8GHz and remain stable) and above all a very good motherboard (at least Asus P8Z68-V pro, deluxe or extreme-z is better for higher power phases).
If you achieve 4.5GHz stable without burning motherboard or/and processor, then you should be very happy with your achievement.

d6bmg said:
(Noctua NH-D14 can't push beyond 4.8GHz and remain stable)

i beg to differ my boy

^^ Then that must be problem with my chip. :-(

<said that chip have lot to do with OC'ing.>

And you had that 56X 2500K.

Golden chip (!)

d6bmg said:
Some late night suggestion: Be practical. Please stop living in dream.
Getting stable 5GHz needs to fill up lot of factors, depends heavily on the chip, your OC'ing experience (which I presume is nil at this point of time just from your post), Corsair H100 as cpu cooler (Noctua NH-D14 can't push beyond 4.8GHz and remain stable) and above all a very good motherboard (at least Asus P8Z68-V pro, deluxe or extreme-z is better for higher power phases).
If you achieve 4.5GHz stable without burning motherboard or/and processor, then you should be very happy with your achievement.

^^

I was joking. Even i know its not possible with my config.

Anyway Got THE GTX 670 TODAY :twisted:

will post some pics!

d6bmg said:
^^ Then that must be problem with my chip.
<said that chip have lot to do with OC'ing.>

And you had that 56X 2500K. Golden chip (!)

not anymore...

^^ Whats is so special about the chip?.

Here are some unboxing pics

*i.imgur.com/rqO3S.jpg

*i.imgur.com/SNHBm.jpg

*i.imgur.com/7pIpM.jpg

*i.imgur.com/Nu3gi.jpg

The beauty

*i.imgur.com/mRSuY.jpg

*i.imgur.com/fd2FB.jpg

*i.imgur.com/iskXQ.jpg

*i.imgur.com/Y3fj5.jpg

Comparison between my previous and new graphics card

*i.imgur.com/pR6Gl.jpg

Spot the difference!

I saw a man oc his cpu @ 5599 Mhz . I don know if it is I5 2500K or I7 2600K .

^^basically that's a binned chip...sandy bridge CPU's are notorious for having low multi's

Guys whats the difference between these two RAMs?

G.Skill RipjawsX DDR3 4 GB PC RAM (F3-12800CL9D-4GBXL)

and

G.Skill RipjawsX DDR3 4 GB (1 x 4 GB) PC RAM (F3-12800CL9S-4GBXL)

Guys can you also recommend some good shops in Mumbai at Lamington Road etc?

T

The CL9D will have 2 sticks of 2 gb and CL9S will have single stick of 4 GB.

I might be getting a HAF 922 for 3,000. should I go for it instead of the NZXT Source 210 Elite.
Please reply ASAP going to take the decision tomorrow.

HAF 922 for 3k? Grab it without second thoughts.

Guys it might be the 922 or the 912 advanced. Both seem pretty awesome IMHO.
Thank You for the quick reply. Any recommendations on good shops in Lamington Road ??

^^Dunno much about it buddy, maybe you should ask someone from Mumbai. But I've shopped online from E-Lounge (TheITwares.com) and found their dealings hassle free.

Guys please recommend a good UPS too (I know it wasn't initially in the budget and is something extra and out of budget.) budget 1.5k to 2k even a cheaper one will do! backup needed just for a few minutes.

Anyway my cousin (who is also buying the components with me) against my advice has decided to go for a non unlocked IVY bridge processor and the supporting motherboard.
He wants to go with the Intel 3550 so please suggest a suitable motherboard for it
Total should come less than or equal to 20k (mobo + proccy).
P.S. if he is not going to overclock ever does he really need the aftermarket cooler.

@ mods- is it okay to display my cousin's problem here or should i make a new thread?

Guys please reply soon as we are going to buy the components by around wednesday.

Saumil996 said:
I might be getting a HAF 922 for 3,000. should I go for it instead of the NZXT Source 210 Elite.
Please reply ASAP going to take the decision tomorrow.

My CM Elite 431 costs 2900!! :shock:

How are you getting a HAF at that price???

Saumil996 said:
P.S. if he is not going to overclock ever does he really need the aftermarket cooler.

Ivy Bridge has low TDP. No need for aftermarket cooling solutions on a non-K proccy.

As for UPS, get APC RS 1100.

MatchBoxx said:
My CM Elite 431 costs 2900!!
How are you getting a HAF at that price???

Contacts

.

he has promised to give a CM 690 II advanced/plus(@ <2500) but he might be able to get the HAF 912 advanced/922 at around 3000.

MatchBoxx said:
Ivy Bridge has low TDP. No need for aftermarket cooling solutions on a non-K proccy.

As for UPS, get APC RS 1100.

Model no of the APC UPS please

"RS 1100" is the model number. It has 1100 VA capacity.

Costs around 4000

Saumil996 said:
Contacts . he has promised to give a CM 690 II advanced/plus(@ <2500) but he might be able to get the HAF 912 advanced/922 at around 3000.

What contacts?? :-?

MatchBoxx said:
"RS 1100" is the model number. It has 1100 VA capacity.
Costs around 4000

WTF! 4k

how many minutes of backup will it give?

What contacts??

family member

Anyway Guys any recommendation on the motherboard for my cousin

Congrats on that Card!
awesome it is!

How much did it cost?
and bought from where?

Omi said:
Congrats on that Card!
awesome it is!

How much did it cost?
and bought from where?

Total Cost: 26,000 + Shipping 250
Shop: Golchha Computers Bangalore. site link HOME | GolchhaIT.com

ASUS P8H77-M PRO Motherboard | Motherboard | Flipkart.com

get this board for ur bro...

HAF-922 @3K?
Awesome deal. Buy it.

Source of this deal?

Saumil996 said:
Anyway Guys any recommendation on the motherboard for my cousin

Options?

sumonpathak said:
ASUS P8H77-M PRO Motherboard | Motherboard | Flipkart.com

get this board for ur bro...

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Its a bit expensive. Anything cheaper ? around 6-7k assuming proccy comes for 13-14k

d6bmg said:
HAF-922 @3K?
Awesome deal. Buy it.

Source of this deal?

refer to post 182

@d6bmg
I've done zero research on non overclockable ivy's and their respective mobo's so i've kept no options yet.

Saumil996 said:
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@d6bmg
I've done zero research on non overclockable ivy's and their respective mobo's so i've kept no options yet.

I can't see the processor you plan to use for your cousin.
Please mention the budget once again so that proper combo ca be suggested.

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The Intel 3550.
total budget for mobo + proccy combo is around 20k

Buy Intel DH67-CL(B3) @5.4K
Enough for 3550.

Does non-k processor + intel motherboard mean you cant overclock the graphics card too?

Saumil996 said:
Does non-k processor + intel motherboard mean you cant overclock the graphics card too?

No, you are wrong. Overclocking graphics card only depends on the graphics card itself & PSU.

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Thank you for clarifying my doubt and giving me some much needed gyaan because i always thought that we could overclock using BIOS so if i have a BIOS which does not support overclocking then i wouldn't be able to overclock!

Guys i am getting 2 foxconn z77a-s for free. Is it a good overclocker?

Your concept is a bit wrong again.
If BIOS doesn't support overclocking, then you won't be able to overclock anything.

And about foxconn z77a-s, as you are getting it for free, take it & donate it to other person. Its a cr@p board for overclocking.
It can do some work only if you are interested in reviewing it or just wish to compare it to other boards.

@ OP, it is 7 pages and 195 posts, still you are having doubts. When you're gonna buy the system?

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Fine i'll not get that board but will it be enough for my cousin??

BTW Bought my RIG TODAY!!!!!
will post pics details etc etc. later

my mobo is the asus p8z77 v :-D

Cilus said:
@ OP, it is 7 pages and 195 posts, still you are having doubts. When you're gonna buy the system?

I bought the system today and ya even i feel it had become too long

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just keep it open for another day or two i will be building the system tomorrow morning or day after and i would like to post some pics and also thank everyone so please just keep it open for a day more

Cilus said:
@ OP, it is 7 pages and 195 posts, still you are having doubts. When you're gonna buy the system?

u checked all the posts???...it was fun though

Closing this thread.

Post pics in the Show Off section.