Gaming pc in about 60k

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Hello digitians i'm new here....i am willing to buy a pc...so i need some suggestions from you....

1. What is the purpose of the computer? What all applications and games are you going to run? (Stupid answers like 'gaming' or 'office work' will not work. Be exact. Which games? Which applications? Avoid the word 'et cetera.')
Ans

laying most recent and upcoming big title games like watchdogs,arkham knights,battlefield 4,thief,nfs rival,ac 4 etc. at the highest settings in 1080p res. and also occational adio-video rendering,photoshop etc..

2. What is your overall budget? If you can extend a bit for a more balanced configuration, then mention this too.
Ans:60k at most.not a penny more. will be very good if the whole rig comes in 55k to 60k pricebracket.

3. Planning to overclock?
Ans:if possible,yes

4. Which Operating System are you planning to use?
Ans:windows 8 or windows 7,both 64 bit

5. How much hard drive space is needed?
Ans:hdd,ssd not needed already have 2 tb internal and 1 tb external hdd

6. Do you want to buy a monitor? If yes, please mention which screen size and resolution do you want. If you already have a monitor and want to reuse it, again mention the size and resolution of monitor you have.
Ans:yes,a 1080p 21"-22" monitor would suffice

7. Which components you DON'T want to buy or which components you already have and plan on reusing?
Ans:keyboard,mouse,sound system,ups and hdd

8. When are you planning to buy the system?
Ans:end of this month or next moth

9. Have you ever built a desktop before or will this be done by an assembler?
Ans:yes have built my previous pc

10. Where do you live? Are you buying locally? Are you open to buying stuff from online shops if you don't get locally?
Ans:live in kolkata.open to both locally and online.

11. Anything else which you would like to say?
Ans:thanks in advance

FX 8320 @ 10.35K (*www.snapdeal.com/product/amd-8350-processor/1386404)
DeepCool Icebladepro CPU Cooler @ 2.85K
Asus M5A97 EVO R2.0 @ 8K
Kingston HyperX DDR3 8 GB X 1 1600MHz @ 4.75K (*www.snapdeal.com/product/kingston-hyperx-ddr3-8-gb/1430630)
COOLER MASTER CABINET K380 @ 3.8K (*mdcomputers.in/products/cabinet/cooler-master-cabinet-k380.html&C=INR&PRICERANGE=699MPRM5893)
SAPPHIRE GRAPHICS CARD R9 280X 3GB DDR5 OC DUAL X UEFI WITH BATTLEFIELD 4 @ 22K (*mdcomputers.in/sapphire-graphics-c...al-x-uefi-with-battlefield-4.html?search=280X)
OR
ASUS GRAPHICS CARD GTX 760 2GB DDR5 DC II OC EDITION @ 18.673K
(*mdcomputers.in/asus-graphics-card-gtx-760-2gb-ddr5-dc-ii-oc-edition.html?search=GTX 760)
Dell S2240L LED IPS 1920X1080 @ 8.2K
ANTEC VP650P PSU @ 4.535K (Flipkart)

You can also omit the CPU cooler for now to bring down the cost.

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Thanks cilus for your suggestion.the total cost for your built is 63k.so i will have to skip the cooler.what i am asking is is it necessary to buy a cooler if i am going to overclock?
Does the overclock improve the performance of the pc?
And lastly can i have an intel haswel based pc at this price point??not that i am a fanboy of of intel but i saw in several places intel processors outperforms amds,so i am asking if intel would be better or not.
And i forgot to mention on the erliar post that this my last upgrade upuntill 4 to 5 years.so the rig must be futureproof...
Thanks in advance..

ndkis said:
Thanks cilus for your suggestion.the total cost for your built is 63k.so i will have to skip the cooler.what i am asking is is it necessary to buy a cooler if i am going to overclock?
Does the overclock improve the performance of the pc?
And lastly can i have an intel haswel based pc at this price point??not that i am a fanboy of of intel but i saw in several places intel processors outperforms amds,so i am asking if intel would be better or not.
And i forgot to mention on the erliar post that this my last upgrade upuntill 4 to 5 years.so the rig must be futureproof...
Thanks in advance..

1. If you buy locally, you won't have to skip that cooler

2. Overclocking won't help 'that' much.
3. Intel outperform AMD in single core performance, and yes you can get a Intel rig.
Here's the Intel rig -

i5 4570 (14k)
Gigabyte B85M-D3H (5.6k)
Kingston HyperXBlu 4GB (2.7k)
Antec 650p (4.5k)
Dell S2240L (8.2k)
CM N300 (3.5k)
Sapphire R9 280X (22k)

Intel Core i5 4570 -14000,
Gigabyte B85M-D3H -5500,
Corsair Vengeance 4GB 1600Mhz -2800,
Corsair GS600 -4500,
Dell S2240L LED IPS 22" -8200,
Cooler Master N300 -3500,
Sapphire R9 280X 3GB -23000.
TOTAL -61,500.

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adityaak469 and bavusani thanks for your suggestions.i think i will go with bavusani's built.but is the 4 gb ram sufficient?games like cod ghost requires atleast 6 gb ram!

Intel Processors does have better per core performance resulting better performance in applications which are single threaded in nature. But applications which are multi-threaded in nature, FX-8350/8320 performs brilliantly. So games and applications which are multithreaded (like Video encoding, Photo Editing apps and current games like Crysis 3, Metro Last Light, Battlefield 4 or Tomb Raider), FX 8 core processors perform brilliantly, sometimes almost equal to a 3770K. Also if you are not going for Intel K series Processor and Z87 motherboards, you can't overclock Intel based systems.

Check here:-

Check it here:
CRYSIS 3
*static.techspot.com/articles-info/642/bench/CPU_03.png

METRO LAST LIGHT
*static.techspot.com/articles-info/670/bench/CPU_01.png

BATTLEFIELD 4
*static.techspot.com/articles-info/734/bench/CPU_01.png

Now you tell me, by spending 3K extra (4570 over an 8350), how much gaming performance you are getting. Also, you can overclock FX-8350 and even slight 200MHz overclock will narrow the performance.

Cilus said:
Intel Processors does have better per core performance resulting better performance in applications which are single threaded in nature. But applications which are multi-threaded in nature, FX-8350/8320 performs brilliantly. So games and applications which are multithreaded (like Video encoding, Photo Editing apps and current games like Crysis 3, Metro Last Light, Battlefield 4 or Tomb Raider), FX 8 core processors perform brilliantly, sometimes almost equal to a 3770K. Also if you are not going for Intel K series Processor and Z87 motherboards, you can't overclock Intel based systems.

Check here:-

Check it here:
CRYSIS 3
*static.techspot.com/articles-info/642/bench/CPU_03.png

METRO LAST LIGHT
*static.techspot.com/articles-info/670/bench/CPU_01.png

BATTLEFIELD 4
*static.techspot.com/articles-info/734/bench/CPU_01.png

Now you tell me, by spending 3K extra (4570 over an 8350), how much gaming performance you are getting. Also, you can overclock FX-8350 and even slight 200MHz overclock will narrow the performance.

actually the price difference is negligible because of the difference in cost of motherboard. A Asus M5A97 EVO R2.0 costs 8k whereas the Gigabyte B85M-D3H costs 5.5k. Locally the price would be same

> Overclockable i5 setup is more expensive than FX 8350 + MsA97 EVO. My vote goes to AMD rig suggested by Cilus; it will be more future proof and will provide the fun of overclocking too!

> Also, go with 4 GB x2 RAM instead of single 8 GB stick so that you may be able to use the PC even when one stick goes kaput.

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Wow!!that explains it....so i am going with the amd rig..thanks cilus for the clarification....
So the final built is as follows....
FX 8320 @ 10.35K
Asus M5A97 EVO R2.0 @ 8K
Kingston HyperX DDR3 8 GB X 1 1600MHz @ 4.75K
COOLER MASTER CABINET N300@3.5k or coolermaster k380@3.8k( you tell me which is better)
SAPPHIRE GRAPHICS CARD R9 280X 3GB DDR5 OC DUAL X UEFI WITH BATTLEFIELD 4 @ 22K
Dell S2240L LED IPS 1920X1080 @ 8.2K
ANTEC VP650P PSU @ 4.535K
I will be buying the cooler later when i overclock.

ndkis said:
Wow!!that explains it....so i am going with the amd rig..thanks cilus for the clarification....
So the final built is as follows....
FX 8320 @ 10.35K
Asus M5A97 EVO R2.0 @ 8K
Kingston HyperX DDR3 8 GB X 1 1600MHz @ 4.75K
COOLER MASTER CABINET N300@3.5k or coolermaster k380@3.8k( you tell me which is better)
SAPPHIRE GRAPHICS CARD R9 280X 3GB DDR5 OC DUAL X UEFI WITH BATTLEFIELD 4 @ 22K
Dell S2240L LED IPS 1920X1080 @ 8.2K
ANTEC VP650P PSU @ 4.535K
I will be buying the cooler later when i overclock.

change the monitor gaming sucks in it..............

ndkis said:
Wow!!that explains it....so i am going with the amd rig..thanks cilus for the clarification....
So the final built is as follows....
FX 8320 @ 10.35K
Asus M5A97 EVO R2.0 @ 8K
Kingston HyperX DDR3 8 GB X 1 1600MHz @ 4.75K
COOLER MASTER CABINET N300@3.5k or coolermaster k380@3.8k( you tell me which is better)
SAPPHIRE GRAPHICS CARD R9 280X 3GB DDR5 OC DUAL X UEFI WITH BATTLEFIELD 4 @ 22K
Dell S2240L LED IPS 1920X1080 @ 8.2K
ANTEC VP650P PSU @ 4.535K
I will be buying the cooler later when i overclock.

Get 4 GB x2 RAM instead of single 4 GB RAM. I;ve mentioned the reason in my previous post.

gta0gagan said:
change the monitor gaming sucks in it..............

Care to provide a reason? Please don't make claims without providing reasons.

ndkis said:
Wow!!that explains it....so i am going with the amd rig..thanks cilus for the clarification....
So the final built is as follows....
FX 8320 @ 10.35K
Asus M5A97 EVO R2.0 @ 8K
Kingston HyperX DDR3 8 GB X 1 1600MHz @ 4.75K
COOLER MASTER CABINET N300@3.5k or coolermaster k380@3.8k( you tell me which is better)
SAPPHIRE GRAPHICS CARD R9 280X 3GB DDR5 OC DUAL X UEFI WITH BATTLEFIELD 4 @ 22K
Dell S2240L LED IPS 1920X1080 @ 8.2K
ANTEC VP650P PSU @ 4.535K
I will be buying the cooler later when i overclock.

a 4GB x2 would be better. Get K380 if you want a industrial looking cabby or else get N300.

ndkis said:
Care to provide a reason? Please don't make claims without providing reasons.

if you can extend a little bit budget, get this *m.snapdeal.com/product/aoc-i2369vm-23-inch-ips/64215158 you won't ever regret it.

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I cant extend my budget.i have to do with the dell monitor..its not that bad right??and as per your suggestion i will get 2x4 gb mem. module....

Isn't a AOC 21.5" IPS 1080P monitor available around 8K? Can anybody post the name, I can't remember it exactly...

Cilus said:
Isn't a AOC 21.5" IPS 1080P monitor available around 8K? Can anybody post the name, I can't remember it exactly...

*www.snapdeal.com/product/aoc-i2269vwm-215-inch-ips/1101274211 . this one looks cool. but around 9.5k.
looks like a good competitor to s2240l.
there are other models too, but doesn't look like ips panel like *www.snapdeal.com/product/aoc-e2260swn-215inch-led-monitor/1859085976 or *www.snapdeal.com/product/aoc-e2262vwh-215-inch-monitor/1428578 (2ms response time)

harshilsharma63 said:
Care to provide a reason? Please don't make claims without providing reasons.

i think the biggest reason here i hav is my experience since i own it...........

if gaming is primary concern then s2240l is not that good other options are available in market as suggested above......... i am experiencing screen tearing.........

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also the gaming mode of s2240l it sucks big time............

Cilus said:
FX 8320 @ 10.35K
DeepCool Icebladepro CPU Cooler @ 2.85K
Asus M5A97 EVO R2.0 @ 8K
Kingston HyperX DDR3 8 GB X 1 1600MHz @ 4.75K
COOLER MASTER CABINET K380 @ 3.8K
SAPPHIRE GRAPHICS CARD R9 280X 3GB DDR5 OC DUAL X UEFI WITH BATTLEFIELD 4 @ 22K
Dell S2240L LED IPS 1920X1080 @ 8.2K
ANTEC VP650P PSU @ 4.535K (Flipkart)

You can also omit the CPU cooler for now to bring down the cost.

Cilus Config is best suited for your needs So go for it.

gta0gagan said:
i am experiencing screen tearing.........

Are you experiencing tearing even while watching videos or just during gaming?

gta0gagan said:
i think the biggest reason here i hav is my experience since i own it...........

if gaming is primary concern then s2240l is not that good other options are available in market as suggested above......... i am experiencing screen tearing.........

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also the gaming mode of s2240l it sucks big time............

screen tearing due to monitor??

and why would you use a preset mode for your needs??

gta0gagan said:
i think the biggest reason here i hav is my experience since i own it...........

if gaming is primary concern then s2240l is not that good other options are available in market as suggested above......... i am experiencing screen tearing.........

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also the gaming mode of s2240l it sucks big time............

the bigger the difference between the monitor's refresh rate and the FPS your card is drawing the more intense tearing you're going to see. For example, if your card is drawing 100FPS in a game and your monitor can only run @ 60hz then you're going to see tearing. Keep cranking up details in the games until you lower the max FPS to 60 or just leave v sync on, its very rare that monitor is the issue.

sam_738844 said:
the bigger the difference between the monitor's refresh rate and the FPS your card is drawing the more intense tearing you're going to see. For example, if your card is drawing 100FPS in a game and your monitor can only run @ 60hz then you're going to see tearing. Keep cranking up details in the games until you lower the max FPS to 60 or just leave v sync on, its very rare that monitor is the issue.

exactly.. i wanted him to answer, tosee if he was aware of one of the causes of screen tearing.

anirbandd said:
exactly.. i wanted him to answer, tosee if he was aware of one of the causes of screen tearing.

it occurs during cutscenes mostly and game videos.......

gta0gagan said:
it occurs during cutscenes mostly and game videos.......

did you tried this : force enable tripple buffering and cap framerate @60 in Radeon controll center and see if you still face tearing

avinandan012 said:
did you tried this : force enable tripple buffering and cap framerate @60 in Radeon controll center and see if you still face tearing

changed setting now will see.........

gta0gagan said:
it occurs during cutscenes mostly and game videos.......

yep.. coz videos run at higher fps than screen refresh rate.. hence you get tearing.