Gaming Rig Advice <50K

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1. What is the purpose of the computer? What all applications and games are you going to run? (Stupid answers like 'gaming' or 'office work' will not work. Be exact. Which games? Which applications? Avoid the word 'et cetera.')
Ans: Gaming (All modern AAA titles) (Dishonored 2, Mass Effect Andromeda, Doom etc..)
& Media Consumption

2. What is your overall budget? If you can extend a bit for a more balanced configuration, then mention this too.
Ans: 50K may be 2K more maximum..

3. Planning to overclock?
Ans: Maybe CPU in a year or so when i feel OC is needed

4. Which Operating System are you planning to use?
Ans: WIN10

5. How much hard drive space is needed?
Ans: 2TB

6. Do you want to buy a monitor? If yes, please mention which screen size and resolution do you want. If you already have a monitor and want to reuse it, again mention the size and resolution of monitor you have.
Ans: 1080P 22'' I guess

7. Which components you DON'T want to buy or which components you already have and plan on reusing?
Ans: NONE

8. When are you planning to buy the system?
Ans: Online (Amazon or MDComputers) or SP Road Bangalore

9. Have you ever built a desktop before or will this be done by an assembler?
Ans: Nope

10. Where do you live? Are you buying locally? Are you open to buying stuff from online shops if you don't get locally?
Ans: Bangalore

11. Anything else which you would like to say?
Ans: Importing RX570 from US for 12K(hope I don't screw up

), so basically i am left with 38K for other components..

Build in my mind,

>Ryzen 5 1400
>RAM - 8GB DDR4 2400MHZ (Corsair or G.Skill)
>MOBO - Confused here, thinking of B320M Chipset instead of B350M to cut cost..
ASUS MOTHERBOARD PRIME A320M-K (AMD SOCKET AM4/RYZEN SERIES CPU/MAX 32GB DDR4-3200MHZ MEMORY)
>Please advice on decent (budget conscious) Case & PSU
>Monitor - LG 22MP58VQ-P - 22 INCH MONITOR (5Ms RESPONSE TIME, 60Hz REFRESH RATE, FHD IPS PANEL)
or any other good alternative..

Are MDcomputers reliable, have never bought anything from them till date..

Is SSD necessary? Does it matter that much?

Also any idea where I can sell my old Rig (What cost can i expect)
C2D E7500, 4GB RAM, HD6570 1 GB DDR3, Dell 1366*768 monitor, 500GB HDD...

Assume GPU has it's own separate budget.
With A320, you can't overclock. If you go with A320 and skimp here and there, you could probably fit Ryzen 1600.
With B350, you can fit 1500X.

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nac said:
Assume GPU has it's own separate budget.
With A320, you can't overclock. If you go with A320 and skimp here and there, you could probably fit Ryzen 1600.
With B350, you can fit 1500X.

nope 50K including GPU, BTW thanks for pointing that out, seemed little confusing (updated OP).

Then got to skimp on every product.

No offense. Budget is too tight for everything.

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1)Don't sacrifice GPU warranty for 3k .. Buy Sapphire Rx 570 4gb pulse for Rs 15,000 instead

2) Don't get that LG model , it does not have Freesync , get this one and don't skip Freesync.. LG 22Mp68VQ-P

PSU - Seasonic si2ii 520 - - 5,500 (don't skimp on psu with Rx 570 )
Ram - Corsair Vengance 8gb ddr4 2400mhz - 4,300
CPU - Ryzen 1500x - - 13,700
Mobo - Asus A320 board - 5,300
Monitor - LG 22MP68VQ-P freesync - - 9,000
GPU - 4gb Sapphire Rx 570 Pulse - 15,000

Total - 52,800

just Rs 800 more than your max budget and you get a balanced durable rig..

Use your old hard disk , case , kb and mouse for now.. and sell the rest components separately on digit, erodov ,techenclave ,olx

SSD is nice.. will speed up loading times , booting , overall pc responsiveness , antivirus scans .. but not an "essential" for gaming pc.. and not at this time when ssd prices are so high ..

Budget -56.8K

Processor - AMD R5 1400 -12500,
Motherboard - Asus Prime B350 Plus -8500,
RAM - Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB 3000Mhz -5500,
GPU - Zotac GTX1050Ti 4GB Mini -12000,
HDD - WD Caviar Blue 1TB -3500,
SMPS - Seasonic S12II 520w -5500,
Monitor - LG 22MP68VQ-P 22" LED IPS -8500,
KB/Mouse - Logitech MK200 -800.
TOTAL -56,800.

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nac said:
Then got to skimp on every product. No offense. Budget is too tight for everything.

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gta5 said:
1)Don't sacrifice GPU warranty for 3k .. Buy Sapphire Rx 570 4gb pulse for Rs 15,000 instead

2) Don't get that LG model , it does not have Freesync , get this one and don't skip Freesync.. LG 22Mp68VQ-P

PSU - Seasonic si2ii 520 - - 5,500 (don't skimp on psu with Rx 570 )
Ram - Corsair Vengance 8gb ddr4 2400mhz - 4,300
CPU - Ryzen 1500x - - 13,700
Mobo - Asus A320 board - 5,300
Monitor - LG 22MP68VQ-P freesync - - 9,000
GPU - 4gb Sapphire Rx 570 Pulse - 15,000

Total - 52,800

just Rs 800 more than your max budget and you get a balanced durable rig..

Use your old hard disk , case , kb and mouse for now.. and sell the rest components separately on digit, erodov ,techenclave ,olx

SSD is nice.. will speed up loading times , booting , overall pc responsiveness , antivirus scans .. but not an "essential" for gaming pc.. and not at this time when ssd prices are so high ..

Thanks for the reply..

Have already ordered the GPU, one of my friend is coming in next week, so ordered already

Correct me if i am wrong, 1400 & 1500X don't have that much of a performance difference, yes i know 1500X has more L3 cache but it wouldn't matter when coupled with a RX570!!?

thanks for correcting on the monitor, i thought the one one which i told had freesync..

For PSU what about Corsair VS450 or Antec VP450?

please suggest a case..

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bssunilreddy said:
Budget -56.8K

Processor - AMD R5 1400 -12500,

Motherboard - Asus Prime B350 Plus -8500,

RAM - Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB 3000Mhz -5500,

GPU - Zotac GTX1050Ti 4GB Mini -12000,

HDD - WD Caviar Blue 1TB -3500,

SMPS - Seasonic S12II 520w -5500,

Monitor - LG 22MP68VQ-P 22" LED IPS -8500,

KB/Mouse - Logitech MK200 -800.

TOTAL -56,800.

thanks, any thoughts on the B320 MOBO i have stated? Can i go with it?

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Small_town_boy said:
Thanks for the reply..

Have already ordered the GPU, one of my friend is coming in next week, so ordered already

Correct me if i am wrong, 1400 & 1500X don't have that much of a performance difference, yes i know 1500X has more L3 cache but it wouldn't matter when coupled with a RX570!!?

thanks for correcting on the monitor, i thought the one one which i told had freesync..

For PSU what about Corsair VS450 or Antec VP450?

please suggest a case..

1500X would help in CPU intensive games , battlefield 1 multiplayer etc.. ..
i wanted to fit 1600 in your budget for longevity , but couldn't..

1400 is also good for most games , if you want to fit in hard disk, case within the budget . as you will be GPU limited

But I would advice against skimping out on PSU , .. but still if you absolutely must ...

But not VS450 and VP450P, they are fitted with entry level capacitors ,.. Plus Rx 570 is already a lot more power hungry.. The cheapest good PSU to be paired with Rx 570 type of card would be

Antec Vp550P ( get this model only , this model is different from VP450P ,VP500Pc , Vp600P.. those are lower quality ones) this would cost around 4k .. all other PSU's below that are a risky proposition with Rx 570 .. don't buy them ..

and after shutting down PC , make sure that you switch off the main plug/cut ac power as well with antec Psu

With seasonic you get 5 year warranty + fully japanese caps and a solid unit...
Antec Vp550p use to have 2 year warranty , confirm from them if it is 2 year or 3 year now , it is not clear

case - ask bssunilreaddy

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G4560..8gb ddr4 ..any b150 Mobo..gtx 1050ti 4gb..1tb HDD, 120gb ssd,.
All around 32k...
I think. This will be good for 1080p gaming..as u need a gaming rig only

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89praveen said:
G4560..8gb ddr4 ..any b150 Mobo..gtx 1050ti 4gb..1tb HDD, 120gb ssd,.
All around 32k...
I think. This will be good for 1080p gaming..as u need a gaming rig only

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Not enough for 1080p ultra. OP needs a GTX 1060 or RX 480 for that.

G4560 is 2C4T while R5 1400 is 4C8T, basically like an i7 3770 without iGPU at i5 prices.

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Who cares ?? There is little difference between ultra and high..and for gaming 2c,4t is enough..

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Also this is value for money

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gta5 said:
1500X would help in CPU intensive games , battlefield 1 multiplayer etc.. ..
i wanted to fit 1600 in your budget for longevity , but couldn't..

1400 is also good for most games , if you want to fit in hard disk, case within the budget . as you will be GPU limited

But I would advice against skimping out on PSU , .. but still if you absolutely must ...

But not VS450 and VP450P, they are fitted with crap capacitors ,.. Plus Rx 570 is already a lot more power hungry.. The cheapest good PSU to be paired with Rx 570 type of card would be

Antec Vp550P ( get this model only , this model is different from VP450P ,VP500Pc , Vp600P.. those are lower quality ones) this would cost around 4k .. all other PSU's below that are a risky proposition with Rx 570 .. don't buy them ..

and after shutting down PC , make sure that you switch off the main plug/cut ac power as well with antec Psu

With seasonic you get 5 year warranty + fully japanese caps and a solid unit...
Antec Vp550p use to have 2 year warranty , confirm from them if it is 2 year or 3 year now , it is not clear

case - ask bssunilreaddy

So i cannot skimp on PSU then, so i am only left with one option now...i have to buy a monitor later since there is no way i can fit it in my budget if i consider case and HDD to be fitted in..

BTW is it ok to use a RX570 with a 1366*768 res monitor?

for cabinet how is this?
CIRCLE MID TOWER CABINET (ATX) - CC 821 PRIME

looks like it has ample cooling with extra 120mm fans, i guess with stock AMD cooler this would help?

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Small_town_boy said:
So i cannot skimp on PSU then, so i am only left with one option now...i have to buy a monitor later since there is no way i can fit it in my budget if i consider case and HDD to be fitted in..

BTW is it ok to use a RX570 with a 1366*768 res monitor?

for cabinet how is this?
CIRCLE MID TOWER CABINET (ATX) - CC 821 PRIME

looks like it has ample cooling with extra 120mm fans, i guess with stock AMD cooler this would help?

CPU - Ryzen 1400 - 12,000
PSU - Seasonic 520 - 5, 500
Ram - 8gb corsair - 4,300
Monitor - Lg Freesync - 9,000
Mobo - A320 asus - 5,300
GPU - Rx 570 - 12,000

total 48k .. you are left with 4k as your max budget was 52k
Use your old 500gb hard disk for now .. and buy new when you have the cash
Sell your rig as separate components on forums... or
if you have to sell your old rig as a complete setup locally , then get the cheapest 2nd hand hard disk and sell that off with that old rig ..

get a good case for Rs 3,200-3,500 and 600-700 rs for old hard disk to bundle with your old rig..

There is no certainty regarding GST .. tax rate may jump from 5 % right now to 18 % or 12 % from 1st july ..

so get the monitor ( big amount item ) and a good case now , be at low risk as dollar is also low right now + tax uncertainity .. and leave hard disk for future..

let sunil bro recommend a good case ..

Corsair SPEC Alpha -4000.

Is the Mobo B320 or B350?

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bssunilreddy said:
Corsair SPEC Alpha -4000.

Is the Mobo B320 or B350?

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thinking of b320 to skimp on budget...can it hold light overclocking in futre say 200-300mhz..?

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gta5 said:
CPU - Ryzen 1400 - 12,000
PSU - Seasonic 520 - 5, 500
Ram - 8gb corsair - 4,300
Monitor - Lg Freesync - 9,000
Mobo - A320 asus - 5,300
GPU - Rx 570 - 12,000

total 48k .. you are left with 4k as your max budget was 52k
Use your old 500gb hard disk for now .. and buy new when you have the cash
Sell your rig as separate components on forums... or
if you have to sell your old rig as a complete setup locally , then get the cheapest 2nd hand hard disk and sell that off with that old rig ..

get a good case for Rs 3,200-3,500 and 600-700 rs for old hard disk to bundle with your old rig..

There is no certainty regarding GST .. tax rate may jump from 5 % right now to 18 % or 12 % from 1st july ..

so get the monitor ( big amount item ) and a good case now , be at low risk as dollar is also low right now + tax uncertainity .. and leave hard disk for future..

let sunil bro recommend a good case ..

Ya..i guess it's better to buy monitor now..which of the below combo is better..

B320 mobo+ryzen 5 1500X
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B350 mobo+ryzen 5 1400

Small_town_boy said:
Ya..i guess it's better to buy monitor now..which of the below combo is better..

B320 mobo+ryzen 5 1500X
or
B350 mobo+ryzen 5 1400

There is no B320 mobo

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SaiyanGoku said:
There is no B320 mobo

Correct me if i am wrong, as per my knowledge below MOBO supports Ryzen..
ASUS MOTHERBOARD PRIME A320M-K (AMD SOCKET AM4/RYZEN SERIES CPU/MAX 32GB DDR4-3200MHZ MEMORY)

Please have a look at these,
a320m mobo - Newegg.com

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Small_town_boy said:
Ya..i guess it's better to buy monitor now..which of the below combo is better..

B320 mobo+ryzen 5 1500X
or
B350 mobo+ryzen 5 1400

It is A320 and B350 .. if you go for any of the above combo , you will exceed your budget.. are you going to add more money to your budget or cut costs somewhere ?

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gta5 said:
CPU - Ryzen 1400 - 12,000
PSU - Seasonic 520 - 5, 500
Ram - 8gb corsair - 4,300
Monitor - Lg Freesync - 9,000
Mobo - A320 asus - 5,300
GPU - Rx 570 - 12,000

total 48k .. you are left with 4k as your max budget was 52k
Use your old 500gb hard disk for now .. and buy new when you have the cash
Sell your rig as separate components on forums... or
if you have to sell your old rig as a complete setup locally , then get the cheapest 2nd hand hard disk and sell that off with that old rig ..

get a good case for Rs 3,200-3,500 and 600-700 rs for old hard disk to bundle with your old rig..

There is no certainty regarding GST .. tax rate may jump from 5 % right now to 18 % or 12 % from 1st july ..

so get the monitor ( big amount item ) and a good case now , be at low risk as dollar is also low right now + tax uncertainity .. and leave hard disk for future..

let sunil bro recommend a good case ..

Where can I get rx570 for 12000... incredible price???

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89praveen said:
Where can I get rx570 for 12000... incredible price???

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his friend is bringing for him from USA , he already purchased it for 12k ..

15k with Indian warranty is also good price

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gta5 said:
his friend is bringing for him from USA , he already purchased it for 12k ..

15k with Indian warranty is also good price

Indian pricing suck man...

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gta5 said:
It is A320 and B350 .. if you go for any of the above combo , you will exceed your budget.. are you going to add more money to your budget or cut costs somewhere ?

sorry i meant A320..

, got a bit carried away there..
Just wanted to be sure on which was the better combo before buying...still thinking about monitor, in a dilemma whether to buy new one or not...
i cant seem to find any reviews on A320 mobo's....are they any good...?

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Small_town_boy said:
sorry i meant A320.., got a bit carried away there..
Just wanted to be sure on which was the better combo before buying...still thinking about monitor, in a dilemma whether to buy new one or not...
i cant seem to find any reviews on A320 mobo's....are they any good...?

it also depends upon luck .. if you get a Ryzen 1400 that can easily overclock to 3.7-3.8ghz then B350 + 1400..

if you get a ryzen 1400 that doesn't overclock to more than 3.5 ghz , then A320 +1500x while being cheaper with a better cooler..

like this Got a terrible 1400 :( • r/Amd

in most games you will be GPU bottlenecked , in a few games where higher clock speeds will matter , freesync will take care of low fps or drops below 60 fps..
with Freesync even 45 fps feels smooth ,
My experience with FreeSync. • r/Amd
Freesync is the bomb. • r/Amd
Just got an rx 480 and am finally able to use FreeSync. Oh my God... • r/Amd

read more on reddit..

i would put money into getting the monitor first ..much better visuals , Smoother Gameplay experience than few extra fps i could get with a slightly better CPU or GPU ..

So my opinion is Freesync + 1400 + A320 within the limited budget . .than skipping monitor and going for better CPU ..

check these
AMD Ryzen 5 1400 Review

rest research more and decide or let other members give their opinion..

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Regarding A320 board .. Low end boards gets less coverage , so you may have to wait for reviews for quite some time as they haven't properly launched ...
Stick with Asus or Gigabyte ..
make sure , all the capacitors are solid/polymer caps .. Asus has all solid caps.. even gigabyte
Asus has 6 power phases , gigabyte has 7 .. the more the better if the quality of VRM is same.. less heat , lower temp , longer life
check specs and ports ..
A320 board does not have MOSFET heatsinks, like B350 but with no overclocking and low TDP cpu , it shouldn't matter much

rest you can post images of both gigabyte and asus A320 board on badcaps.net and overclock.net and other similar technical forum and ask which of these boards is a better designed unit , quality of VRM etc

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gta5 said:
it also depends upon luck .. if you get a Ryzen 1400 that can easily overclock to 3.7-3.8ghz then B350 + 1400..

if you get a ryzen 1400 that doesn't overclock to more than 3.5 ghz , then A320 +1500x while being cheaper with a better cooler..

like this Got a terrible 1400 :( • r/Amd

in most games you will be GPU bottlenecked , in a few games where higher clock speeds will matter , freesync will take care of low fps or drops below 60 fps..
with Freesync even 45 fps feels smooth ,
My experience with FreeSync. • r/Amd
Freesync is the bomb. • r/Amd
Just got an rx 480 and am finally able to use FreeSync. Oh my God... • r/Amd

read more on reddit..

i would put money into getting the monitor first ..much better visuals , Smoother Gameplay experience than few extra fps i could get with a slightly better CPU or GPU ..

So my opinion is Freesync + 1400 + A320 within the limited budget . .than skipping monitor and going for better CPU ..

check these
AMD Ryzen 5 1400 Review

rest research more and decide or let other members give their opinion..

Thank you very much for this info, looking at those reddit threads makes me wonder whether it's better to go with a 1400 than say a i5-7400..

So it's decided then, ryzen 1400+A320 MoBo..

Small_town_boy said:
Thank you very much for this info, looking at those reddit threads makes me wonder whether it's better to go with a 1400 than say a i5-7400..

So it's decided then, ryzen 1400+A320 MoBo..

OP Please specify your final configuaration.

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bssunilreddy said:
OP Please specify your final configuaration.

Haven't gone out looking for parts yet(except for the graphics card), this is what i am hoping to get at.

>Ryzen 5 1400 - 12.5K
>Gigabyte or Asus A320 MoBO - 5K
>Asus ROG Strix RX570 Gaming Edition 4GB - 12.2K
>Corsair Vengeance LPX @2400Mhz 8GB DDR4 - 4.5K
>Seasonic 520W - 5.5K
>Circle CC 821 Case - 3K
>LG Freesync monitor - 9K
Total ~52K, gonna skip HDD for now will use my old HDD..

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Small_town_boy said:
Thank you very much for this info, looking at those reddit threads makes me wonder whether it's better to go with a 1400 than say a i5-7400..

So it's decided then, ryzen 1400+A320 MoBo..

i5/ 4c/4t isn't future proof.. in battlefield 1 multiplayer it is at 100 % utilization already .. even with 1050ti as mentioned in the comment section in ryzen 1400 battlefield video

plus 1151 socket is old now , after 8th gen intel might release a new one.. and it is unlikely that intel will allow even 8th gen cpus on h110 boards... with amd AM4 you will be able to upgrade cpu to newer zen 3 after 2-3 years without changing motherboard..

Do also ask about gigabyte vs Asus A320 board with no Mosfet heatsink for 1400 on overclock.net and badcap.net just to be sure ...

Small_town_boy said:
Thank you very much for this info, looking at those reddit threads makes me wonder whether it's better to go with a 1400 than say a i5-7400..

So it's decided then, ryzen 1400+A320 MoBo..

Don't worry, Ryzen 5 1400 is better than Intel i5.

Check out videos like these:

Ryzen 5 1400 utilisation = 50-60% during games, whereas Intel i5-7500's utilusation = 80-90%. FPS is more or less same and there is so much room in Ryzen. And, it will gain more when game devs optimise games for it.

However, if, if, you can fetch ₹4000 more and get Ryzen 5 1600, then two extra cores (6 cores/12 threads) are absolutely worth it.

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gta5 said:
i5/ 4c/4t isn't future proof.. in battlefield 1 multiplayer it is at 100 % utilization already .. even with 1050ti as mentioned in the comment section in ryzen 1400 battlefield video

plus 1151 socket is old now , after 8th gen intel might release a new one.. and it is unlikely that intel will allow even 8th gen cpus on h110 boards... with amd AM4 you will be able to upgrade cpu to newer zen 3 after 2-3 years without changing motherboard..

Do also ask about gigabyte vs Asus A320 board with no Mosfet heatsink for 1400 on overclock.net and badcap.net just to be sure ...

Thanks, will confirm on A320 boards,
among the B350 boards which is the better one?

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ico said:
Don't worry, Ryzen 5 1400 is better than Intel i5.

Check out videos like these:

Ryzen 5 1400 utilisation = 50-60% during games, whereas Intel i5-7500's utilusation = 80-90%. FPS is more or less same and there is so much room in Ryzen. And, it will gain more when game devs optimise games for it.

However, if, if, you can fetch ₹4000 more and get Ryzen 5 1600, then two extra cores (6 cores/12 threads) are absolutely worth it.

no way i can afford the 1600, it's either 1400 or 1500X, after a bit of research have come to conclusion that there is no point in spending 2-2.5K more for 1500X since the gains are very minimal when coupled with every level GPU.

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Small_town_boy said:
Thanks, will confirm on A320 boards,
among the B350 boards which is the better one?

hmm.. i liked gigabyte AB350 Gaming 3 , but people are experiencing higher vrm temps .. also better ask rcuber .. he is using one .. and will be able to advice you better

50K PC Upgrade for Gaming/Streaming - CPU+ RAM + MOBO

Asus one has the best vrm temps from this review..

VRM temps.

research more on this , until then i would say Asus Prime B350 Plus