Gaming Rig for a budget of around 65K

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Well, it's just another "PC configuration" thread asking for thinkdigitians' suggestions for my yet-to-be build gaming rig.

1. What is the purpose of the computer and what kind of applications and games will be run?
Ans: Mostly for gaming and I play games like AC III and IV: Black Flag, Watch_Dogs, GTA V(if it ever makes it to the PC), GTA IV, Max Payne 3 and L4D 2, TR 2013 and Hitman Absolution, Crysis I - III. For the softwares, I *might* use Photoshop and After Effects.

2. Overall budget:
Ans: My budget is around 65K and not a penny more than that.

3. Planning to OC?
Ans: I don't want to OC my CPU but I'm looking for a "factory Overclocked" GPU.

4. Which OS am I gonna use?
Ans: Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit

5. How much Hard Drive space is needed?
Ans: Anything more than 500GB is okay for me as I'll be trying to get an SSD later. But since a lot of guys nowadays use 1TB, I'll get 1TB as well.

6. Need to buy a monitor?
Ans: Yes. The resolution should be 1920X1080 Full HD and response time should also be minimum. As for the size, anything between 21 -24 inch would be more than enough for me.

7. Components that I already have:
Ans: Mouse, Keyboard and Headphones.

8. When am I gonna buy the System?
Ans: June last week or July first week.

9. Have you ever built a desktop before or will this be done by an assembler?
Ans: I've never build a PC before and yes, I'm going to build this one.

10. Where do you live? Are you buying locally? Are you open to buying stuff from online shops if you don't get locally?
Ans: I'm in Madurai, TN. I've checked the price list of some shops at Nehru Place. Their price are a bit cheaper than what Flipkart has mentioned. I'll gladly buy stuff from online if the prices are cheaper.

11. Anything else?
Ans: I've shortlisted some parts which you can find below. Check that out and do share your opinions. BTW, I'm new to ThinkDigit and this is my first post here.

Shortlist:

Component	Brand/Model	Price
CPU	Intel Core i5 4570	12,400*
GPU	Sapphire Radeon R9 280x Vapor-X 3GB	~22,000
Mo-Bo	Gigabyte GA-B85-D3H	5,500*
RAM	Corsair/G-Skill 2x4GB 1600Mhz	~6,000
PSU	Corsair VS650 650 Watt PSU	4,000
HDD	WD Caviar Blue 1TB	4,000
Cabinet	NZXT H440 or NZXT Phantom 410	6,000
Monitor	BenQ RL2240h 21.5"	9,000

Note: * Price told by the dealers at Nehru Place.

One more question: I've checked the sticky thread titled "PC buying guide 2014 Q2" where it has been mentioned that I should avoid Corsair's VS series PSU but I'm having the VS650 watt PSU on my mind and it has got good reviews at Flipkart. Should I avoid this PSU?

Component	Brand/Model	Price
CPU	Intel Core i5 4570	12,400*
GPU	Sapphire R9 280x Vapor-X 3GB	23,000
Mo-Bo	Gigabyte GA-B85-D3H	5,500*
RAM	Corsair Vengeance 2x4GB 1600Mhz	6,000
PSU	Corsair VS650 650 Watt PSU	4,000
HDD	WD Caviar Blue 1TB	4,000
Cabinet	NZXT Phantom 410	6,000
Monitor	Dell S2240L LED IPS 21.5"	8,200

Total -69,000.

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The response time for Dell S2240L LED IPS 21.5" is 7ms whereas the response time of BenQ RL2240h is less than 5. I'm afraid it will cause lag. Will it cause any sort of input lag?

No, the dell display does not have any noticeable lag. And please don't get corsair VS series psu.

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Cilus said:
No, the dell display does not have any noticeable lag. And please don't get corsair VS series psu.

Alright, I'll get Dell S2240L. BTW, if I need to avoid a Corsair VS650, suggest me a good PSU and it must have 2 PCI-e 8 Pins(can also be two 6+2 Pins) since my GPU requires 2x8 PCI-e in order to work.

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Corsair GS600 @5.1k

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deathblade said:
Corsair GS600 @5.1k

Does it have two 8 or 6+2 PCI-e connector cables? And guys, need your opinion on "Sea Sonic ECO 600".

For Ram , get the Kingston HyperX 8GB 1600MHz DDR3 Ram @ 5.1K, available in Flipkart (*www.flipkart.com/kingston-hyperx-d...perx&ref=b625effb-6299-400b-978a-aa61c5726ad0).

It is a very low price for a 8GB 1600MHz Ram

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Cilus said:
For Ram , get the Kingston HyperX 8GB 1600MHz DDR3 Ram @ 5.1K, available in Flipkart (*www.flipkart.com/kingston-hyperx-d...perx&ref=b625effb-6299-400b-978a-aa61c5726ad0).

It is a very low price for a 8GB 1600MHz Ram

But my friends told me that using 2x4GB RAM is powerful than using a single 8GB RAM stick. Is that true?

When you use two Ram of same capacity and speed, they work on dual channel mode and theoretically can provide twice memory bandwidth than a single Ram. But in real world cases, in maximum cases the performance difference is very marginal. Only some specific applications which are dependent upon huge memory bandwidth sometimes show a real world performance difference. So save 1K for now and add another 8GB in future.

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Cilus said:
When you use two Ram of same capacity and speed, they work on dual channel mode and theoretically can provide twice memory bandwidth than a single Ram. But in real world cases, in maximum cases the performance difference is very marginal. Only some specific applications which are dependent upon huge memory bandwidth sometimes show a real world performance difference. So save 1K for now and add another 8GB in future.

Great. I'll do that. Can you suggest me a good Cabinet that provides a good cable management for the listed components? Is the NZXT Phantom 410 a good cabinet?

I think [MENTION=135632]vkl[/MENTION] can guide you about NZXT cabinet better.

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Out of h440 and phantom 410,the former is better.
Go for either source 530 full tower or h440.H440 is somewhat more silent,doesn't have 5.25" bays(so no internal optical drives).

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vkl said:
Out of h440 and phantom 410,the former is better.
Go for either source 530 full tower or h440.H440 is somewhat more silent,doesn't have 5.25" bays(so no internal optical drives).

I like H440 more. It is a killer and it comes pre-loaded with 3x120mm fans in the front and 1x140mm fan in the rear. BTW, can you suggest me a good place(online or local) to get this cabinet for a cheaper price?

Hey how about this psu Seasonic S12II 620W
Its from Seasonic and has very good reviews on flipkart.

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ravi847 said:
Hey how about this psu Seasonic S12II 620W
Its from Seasonic and has very good reviews on flipkart.

I need a PSU that comes with two 6+2/8 pin PCI-e connectors. This one has only one 8 pin. So I don't wanna go with this. How about Corsair GS600?

T-Bag said:
I need a PSU that comes with two 6+2/8 pin PCI-e connectors. This one has only one 8 pin. So I don't wanna go with this. How about Corsair GS600?

Go with this:*www.flipkart.com/corsair-vs650-650...=b_2&ref=f6d598c8-c853-480c-902a-292f0db3c812

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bavusani said:
Go with this:*www.flipkart.com/corsair-vs650-650...=b_2&ref=f6d598c8-c853-480c-902a-292f0db3c812

There is no love for Corsair's VS series PSU, I suppose. Everybody has been saying negative things about this particular line of PSU. Even cilius a few posts above said, "Don't go with Cosair VS series".

In the "PC Buying Guide 2014-Q2", it has been mentioned, "Corsair’s VS series PSUs and Cooler Master’s Thunder and Extreme series PSUs should also be avoided."

T-Bag said:
There is no love for Corsair's VS series PSU, I suppose. Everybody has been saying negative things about this particular line of PSU. Even cilius a few of posts above said, "Don't go with Cosair VS series".

In the "PC Buying Guide 2014-Q2", it has been mentioned, "Corsair’s VS series PSUs and Cooler Master’s Thunder and Extreme series PSUs should also be avoided."

But I just bought a Corsair VS550 and its working fine.

there are certain products which are avoided on this forum for apparently no reason everyone will say dont buy this and that. granted few of them are experts in their own right and they suggest the best product in budget.
but why the hate towards certain products.

Cooler Master GX series does have very bad reviews in all the reputed sites like Johnyguru and Kitguru and these two sites are known as the best PSU reviewers. VS series is also very cheap and low quality product and only launched for Asian market, not available anywhere outside. They are okay for Office PC where the Computer never reaches the maximum load. But for a Gaming system, it should be avaoided at all cost.
And at the same price point if better products are available then why not buy them.

And regarding Bavusani's comment that he is using a Corsair VS series and that's why it is best and everybody should use it; plenty of people use graphics cards like HD 7750 or HD 770 with VIP, Zebronics or Frontec PSU and they work normally for some times. Does that mean we should start suggesting people getting Zebronics PSU from now on?

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CM Gx series have/had some ok products like the newer gx450 but also had mediocre or lower quality products like the older gx650.
VS series is not required here.Older vs450 and newer have relatively inferior capacitors(kinda okish).
When we have better options then why go for something inferior/not tested.

T-Bag said:
I like H440 more. It is a killer and it comes pre-loaded with 3x120mm fans in the front and 1x140mm fan in the rear. BTW, can you suggest me a good place(online or local) to get this cabinet for a cheaper price?

The 6k quote in the first post is the lowest I have come across for that.Online it is higher than that.

T-Bag said:
I need a PSU that comes with two 6+2/8 pin PCI-e connectors. This one has only one 8 pin. So I don't wanna go with this. How about Corsair GS600?

you can go with molex converters. may come with your gpu itself. that seasonic is a strong unit.
corsair gs 600 is also good.

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bavusani said:
But I just bought a Corsair VS550 and its working fine.

buy cooler master thunder 450/ extreme plus 650 tomorrow and start suggesting it. :evil:

i think its the sapphire vapor-x only which isn't going through any artifacting issue(correct me if I'm wrong), so op has made a wise choice.

Also just wanted to ask if the Seasonic S12II 620W psu is incapable of powering a r9 280x without any molex converters?

And sorry for budging in.

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Well, guys! I think I'll go with Corsair GS600 600 watt PSU. Is that good product or does it use "poor capacitors"?

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vkl said:
The 6k quote in the first post is the lowest I have come across for that.Online it is higher than that.

Yeah, I checked the price at PrimeABGB. It costs Rs. 8,400. Do you know any place where I can get it for a better price?

ravi847 said:
Also just wanted to ask if the Seasonic S12II 620W psu is incapable of powering a r9 280x without any molex converters?

I don't know about that but what I'm saying is, when another good product(Corsair GS600) with a few bucks less that comes with two 6+2 PCI-e connectors, I would go with it.

ravi847 said:
i think its the sapphire vapor-x only which isn't going through any artifacting issue(correct me if I'm wrong), so op has made a wise choice.

Also just wanted to ask if the Seasonic S12II 620W psu is incapable of powering a r9 280x without any molex converters?

And sorry for budging in.

I didn't get the PSU part. S12II 620 has enough juice to power even a R9 290. R9 280X needs two 8 Pin connectors whereas S12II 620 comes with one. So you can convert one of the normal power connector to a 8 Pin connector using a Molex converter which normally comes with the GPU package. It is just a adapter to convert the input power interface, nothing to do with increasing/decreasing the power.

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Cilus said:
I didn't get the PSU part. S12II 620 has enough juice to power even a R9 290. R9 280X needs two 8 Pin connectors whereas S12II 620 comes with one. So you can convert one of the normal power connector to a 8 Pin connector using a Molex converter which normally comes with the GPU package. It is just a adapter to convert the input power interface, nothing to do with increasing/decreasing the power.

Oops.. First time PC builder. So, pardon me! So, using the Molex converter to convert the normal input connector to an 8-pin connector is an easy job, right?

I am using a r9 290 with the mentioned Seasonic PSU. So chillax.
Go by Cilus's suggestion

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nomad47 said:
I am using a r9 290 with the mentioned Seasonic PSU. So chillax.
Go by Cilus's suggestion

Yeah, cool. I'll get the Seasonic S12II 620. It's just a few hundred bucks more. I've no idea how to use a molex converter. If you have any "tutorial" or "how to" video or guide regarding the same, please help me!

And friends, do you know any particular place where I could get computer components for a better price?

T-Bag said:
Yeah, cool. I'll get the Seasonic S12II 620. It's just a few hundred bucks more. I've no idea how to use a molex converter. If you have any "tutorial" or "how to" video or guide regarding the same, please help me!

And friends, do you know any particular place where I could get computer components for a better price?

When you get the converters with your GPU you will know how to connect. Don't worry

Cilus said:
I didn't get the PSU part. S12II 620 has enough juice to power even a R9 290. R9 280X needs two 8 Pin connectors whereas S12II 620 comes with one. So you can convert one of the normal power connector to a 8 Pin connector using a Molex converter which normally comes with the GPU package. It is just a adapter to convert the input power interface, nothing to do with increasing/decreasing the power.

no it doesn't............

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gta0gagan said:
no it doesn't............

The Vapor-X model does require two 8 pins. The Dual X is the one that requires one 6 pin and one 8 pin.
Watch the video here.