Good Mid Range PC (15K Budget)

N

Hi.. I'm looking to build a decent mid range system under the budget of 15000. The budget is a little flexible.

1. What is the purpose of the computer? What all applications and games are you going to run? (Stupid answers like 'gaming' or 'office work' will not work. Be exact. Which games? Which applications? Avoid the word 'et cetera.')
Ans: Mostly multimedia, movies etc.. and little gaming (games like nfs hp 2, fear 3, fifa 12 etc)

2. What is your overall budget? If you can extend a bit for a more balanced configuration, then mention this too.
Ans: 15K, can be increased upto 18K.

3. Planning to overclock?
Ans: No.

4. Which Operating System are you planning to use?
Ans: Windows 7 Ultimate.

5. How much hard drive space is needed?
Ans: 500 GB. 360GB will do too.

6. Do you want to buy a monitor? If yes, please mention which screen size and resolution do you want. If you already have a monitor and want to reuse it, again mention the size and resolution of monitor you have.
Ans: No. I'm planning to hook it to my Sony Bravia 16" LCD tv.

7. Which components you DON'T want to buy or which components you already have and plan on reusing?
Ans: Everything outside the System Unit.

8. When are you planning to buy the system?
Ans: ASAP.

9. Have you ever built a desktop before or will this be done by an assembler?
Ans: No, but it will be my first attempt.

10. Where do you live? Are you buying locally? Are you open to buying stuff from online shops if you don't get locally?
Ans: Ghaziabad, UP. I'l buy the stuff locally. And yes, I buy stuff online.

11. Anything else which you would like to say?
Ans: Nothing else I guess. Just that I'm new to the forum, so if I made any mistakes, please feel free to point it out! Also, please try to suggest a balanced system in the mentioned budget. The budget is only for the stuff inside the System Unit.

Thanks in advance! :razz:

N

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Anyone kind enough to help? :cry:

J

Your budget is actually very very tight to work with. atleast you have a monitor.

Let me try though:-

processor:- pentium g620- Rs.3300
motherboard:- asrock h61m-u3s3 / gigabyte ga-h61-d2h / asus p8h61 - ~Rs.3000
RAM:- corsair 4 gb value ram:- Rs.1200
HDD:-wd caviar blue 500gb- Rs.4300~
optical drive- asus drw-24b3st- Rs.1000
Kb+mouse:- get anything@ Rs.400/500
PSU*- corsair cx 430v2- rs.2350
case/(case+psu)- generic- Rs.1000~

Rs.16,650~ if you choose to get the good power supply(psu) corsair cx 430 v2. It is highly recommended that you do get it.

Now the problem is you mentioned games! A decent gpu will exceed your budget. even a gt 240 will be around 3k. That will take your budget to 19k+.
And do not even think about sacrificing the power supply to get the gpu unless you wan't your system to get fried.

N

Thanks for the info! :-D

Also.. could you mention a decent graphics card in the range 5K-6K. If it will run games like Max Payne 3 with a good fps, I'l get it!

J

You can pick up the radeon 6770 in about 6-6.5k.
If not an hd 6670 will do I guess.

But 6770 is way better than 6670

P.s:- once again, do not compromise on your power supply unless you want the new pc to blow up.

OP must opt for the Llano Based Config since his budget is too tight .

J

^ No upgrade path.

M

Jripper said:
^ No upgrade path.

Hey jripper,

Without a GPU is like running without legs :lol:

OP should definitely go with liano based system.

J

^ True but OP did ask for a card in the 5-6k range. So there you have your gpu

M

navneetagarwal,

Processor:AMD A6 3650 Processor-5.6k
Motherboard:ASUS F1A55-M LX PLUS-3.6k
Ram:Corsair Vengeance DDR3 4 GB (1 x 4 GB) PC RAM (CMZ4GX3M1A1600C9)-1.6k
HDD:-wd caviar blue 500gb- 3.7k
Optical drive- asus drw-24b3st-1k
Kb+mouse:- get anything@ Rs.400/500
PSU- corsair cx 430v2-2.2k
Case- generic- Rs.700

Total-18k(approx)

Jripper said:
^ True but OP did ask for a card in the 5-6k range. So there you have your gpu

19k+5k=24k will be way out of Op budget.

@navneetagarwal

Buddy if u are looking for a decent graphics card fro your rig within a price range of 5-6k then go for Forsa NVIDIA GeForce GT 440 4 GB DDR3 or else if u can slightly upscale ur price range then go for Zotac NVIDIA Geforce GTX 550 Ti 1 GB GDDR5

Here are the links to get these online at very prices stated by you.

GTX 440

GTX 550

Cheers.

Instead of going with GT 440 4 GB DDR3 OP can Opt for HD 6670 1 GB GDDR5 .

^^ Yes ofcourse he can go for that but i was suggesting him for the green cards but the ATI HD 6670 is also a good choice to make and its cheaper too. So +1 For u.

J

Minion said:
19k+5k=24k will be way out of Op budget.

The rig costs 16.5k. And OP himself asked for a card of 5-6k inspite of him saying the budget is 18k before.hence the suggestion.

+1 to the 6670

N

Thank you all for the info! :-D

Jripper If i increase the budget a little and go with Zotac NVIDIA Geforce GTX 550 Ti 1 GB GDDR5 graphics card as somulesnar suggested, will it balance with the config you suggested? As in there won't be any compatibility problems right?
or would you suggest anything else that would get me more bang for the buck for a little more money? :-D

@ navneetagarwal

buddy no need to worry about that. The gtx 550 would be a perfect combo with the rig suggested by Jripper. The rig itself has got a 430 V power supply which is more than enough for the 550 to run on it.

And about the compatibilty issues, the board itself is an intel based mobo so there's no issue for either of the cards i.e. ATI 6670 or the NVIDIA 550. There's is one plus point with the 550 is the physx aspect in it which can be realized by jaw dropping performances in some gaming titles.

J

No that GPU is fine for your needs.

However, the nvidia 550ti costs almost 8-8.5k.(The 550ti can be a bad option though,since it consumes a buttload of power and performs similar to the lesser priced hd6770). You are advised to go with the 550ti only if you can't live without using "physx" in games(which is a bit of a gimmick if you ask me,but thats just me).
So your ati options are:-
1.) hd6790(more performance),
2.) hd 7750(epic low power consumption)
or
3.) hd 6770(same performance).

And if you can find it..I heard some gigabyte hd 7770 was going for around 8.5k. if you find it and can manage the moolah,then go ahead and buy it.
(7770 - low power consumption+ performance close to an hd6850)

P.S:- Yes the base of the rig is perfectly balanced and there are no compatibility issues. The boards suggested all have pci express slots so you can fit in any present gen graphics card without any issues.

navneetagarwal said:
Jripper If i increase the budget a little and go with Zotac NVIDIA Geforce GTX 550 Ti 1 GB GDDR5 graphics card as somulesnar suggested, will it balance with the config you suggested? As in there won't be any compatibility problems right?
or would you suggest anything else that would get me more bang for the buck for a little more money?

GTX 550 Ti = high power consumption for the performance offered. Plus, it gets out performed by other cards around the same price point.

Pick up either of HD 6790 or HD 7770. These have better performance than GTX 550 Ti at the same price point. HD 6770 if budget around 6.5K.

My recommendation will be HD 7770 @ 9K. This is a current generation card - 28 nm and is as fast as HD 6850 with the latest drivers.

*tpucdn.com/reviews/AMD/HD_7970_GHz_Edition/images/perfrel_1680.gif

GTX 550 Ti has one of the worst performance per watt. Check spoiler below: (Higher on the graph is better.)

*tpucdn.com/reviews/AMD/HD_7970_GHz_Edition/images/perfwatt_1680.gif

HD 6670 is a good choice if you are really short of budget @ around 5.5K. Suggesting GT 440 DDR3 @ 5.3K is a joke. Gt 440 is nowhere near HD 6670.

Jripper said:
which is a bit of a gimmick if you ask me,but thats just me).

That's not just you. That's pretty much everyone. It _is_ a gimmick.

Cards should be judged from absolute performance.

J

@OP What he ^ said

Check here for HD 7770 prices.

MSI R7770-2PMD1GD5/OC Graphic Card

GIGABYTE GV-R777OC-1GD

Otherwise in your budget, I can only see HD 6670 GDDR5 @ 5.5K.

@Jripper

First of all u are wrong in the pricing sense of gtx 550 costs i.e. it doesnt cost around 8-8.5k whereas u can get it frm flipkart @7.7k. Secondly the gtx 550ti is powerful than the lower priced 6770. And yes the gtx 550 does consume more power than the red 6670.
For better scope plz have a look at this.

And about the physx aspect, yes a gamer can live without it but it depends on individual choices.

somulesnar said:
@Jripper

First of all u are wrong in the pricing sense of gtx 550 costs i.e. it doesnt cost around 8-8.5k whereas u can get it frm flipkart @7.7k. Secondly the gtx 550ti is powerful than the lower priced 6770. And yes the gtx 550 does consume more power than the red 6670.
For better scope plz have a look at this.

GTX 550 Ti more powerful than ~~GTX 550 Ti~~ HD 6770? Seriously?

Both are exactly equal in performance. Tell you what, HD 6770 can be procured for ~6.3K and is a much better choice. Same performance, lower price and lower power consumption. MSI R6770-MD1GD5

*media.bestofmicro.com/Q/I/284778/original/Avg%20Performance.png

Where GTX 550 Ti loses out is, power consumption. In reality, GTX 460 is a much better card. GTX 460 is faster than GTX 550 Ti and also has power consumption under control. But GTX 550 Ti? come on.

*media.bestofmicro.com/R/B/284807/original/Power.png

Pick up either of HD 6790 or HD 7770. These have better performance than GTX 550 Ti at the same price point.

My recommendation will be HD 7770 @ 9K. This is a current generation card - 28 nm and is as fast as HD 6850 with the latest drivers.

@ico

But the OP has a budget of 5-6 k only and you are suggesting a card of 9k bucks. And the gtx 550 is priced at 7.7k so its a bit more but not so much price gap than the budget for the GPU.

GTX 550 Ti more powerful than GTX 550 Ti? Seriously?

What?? I didnt say that actually. Plz do recheck my post.

somulesnar said:
@ico

But the OP has a budget of 5-6 k only and you are suggesting a card of 9k bucks. And the gtx 550 is priced at 7.7k so its a bit more but not so much price gap than the budget for the GPU.

Have you even read my posts? I've recommended pretty much everything *right* according to his budget. If 9K, HD 7770. If 6.5K, HD 6770. If 5.5K, HD 6670.

somulesnar said:
What?? I didnt say that actually. Plz do recheck my post.

I meant "GTX 550 Ti more powerful than HD 6770" there.

You said so, when it is not the case.

somulesnar said:
First of all u are wrong in the pricing sense of gtx 550 costs i.e. it doesnt cost around 8-8.5k whereas u can get it frm flipkart @7.7k. Secondly the gtx 550ti is powerful than the lower priced 6770. And yes the gtx 550 does consume more power than the red 6670.

Just checked.

Equal.
*media.bestofmicro.com/Q/I/284778/original/Avg%20Performance.png
Don't derail this thread any further.

J

@soumlesnar

I don't think I am actually. 8-8.5k was an approximation of a 550ti from various manufacturers. The zotac one costs 7.7k sure.

Here is an asus one that costs more than 9k:-
Asus NVIDIA GeForce GTX 550 Ti 1 GB GDDR5 Graphics Card | Graphics Card | Flipkart.com

See what my point was? It was that a better card could be had at that price point of 8-8.5k. and 7.7k is not light years away from 8k.

And in terms of comparison with the 6770 I admit I should have written "similar" instead of same. Check this 550ti comparison with an older 5770(6770 is almost the same card). A better card can be had for the same amount of money that doesn't drain so much power and performs better.

AnandTech - Bench - GPU12

It doesn't make sense to spend 1-2k more to get a card that performs just a little(tiny winy bit) better than the 6770 while consuming twice the power(approximation again).

And yes to OP. what ico said.

Budget= 5.5k, get the 6670.
Budget=6.5k, get the hd 6770
budget=8/8.5k= get the hd 7770.

@ico

Yes sir i have very well read your post. I was actually talking about the HD 7770 card priced at 9k suggested by you bcoz the OP hada budget of 5-6k so we dont need to go beyond the budget do we and 9k is far beyond the budget.

@soumlesnar

I don't think I am actually. 8-8.5k was an approximation of a 550ti from various manufacturers. The zotac one costs 7.7k sure.

Here is an asus one that costs more than 9k:-
Asus NVIDIA GeForce GTX 550 Ti 1 GB GDDR5 Graphics Card | Graphics Card | Flipkart.com

See what my point was? It was that a better card could be had at that price point of 8-8.5k. and 7.7k is not light years away from 8k.

And in terms of comparison with the 6770 I admit I should have written "similar" instead of same. Check this 550ti comparison with an older 5770(6770 is almost the same card). A better card can be had for the same amount of money that doesn't drain so much power and performs better.

AnandTech - Bench - GPU12

It doesn't make sense to spend 1-2k more to get a card that performs just a little better than the 6770 while consuming twice the power(approximation again).

U are very correct mate but if the OP is getting that very card at an reduced price that is 7.7k then there is no harm in it bcoz ZOTAC is not that a bad choice to make and since the OP had a limited price budget so i suggested him to go for ZOTAC. And about the power consumption i had already accepted the fact in my earlier posts. Overall 6770 wont be a bad choice too so +1 for u in that aspect.

Just checked.

Don't derail this thread any further.

@ico
Not at all. I would be careful. Thanks.

GTX 550 Ti uses more power than HD 6770 . I would advise you to go with the HD 6770 .
+1 to Jripper
Quote:
No that GPU is fine for your
needs.
However, the nvidia 550ti costs
almost 8-8.5k.(The 550ti can be a
bad option though,since it
consumes a buttload of power
and performs similar to the
lesser priced hd6770). You are
advised to go with the 550ti only
if you can't live without using
"physx" in games(which is a bit
of a gimmick if you ask me,but
thats just me).
So your ati options are:-
1.) hd6790(more performance),
2.) hd 7750(epic low power
consumption)
or
3.) hd 6770(same performance).
And if you can find it..I heard
some gigabyte hd 7770 was
going for around 8.5k. if you find
it and can manage the
moolah,then go ahead and buy
it.
(7770 - low power consumption+
performance close to an hd6850)
P.S:- Yes the base of the rig is
perfectly balanced and there are
no compatibility issues. The
boards suggested all have pci
express slots so you can fit in any
present gen graphics card
without any issues.

GT 440 4 GB DDR3...Zotac and Forsa should get the award of releasing the most misguiding card of all time. Those cards can't even use 1 GB in most cases n they are giving 4GB DDR3.

Man, there are still some stocks of HD 5750 (same as HD 6750) from Power Color and Sapphire at 5.8K to 6.2K. Even HD 6770 from MSI is available at only 6.5K in SMC. Just Grab any of them. A 16" LCD TV will have resolution of 1366X768 and at this resolution, a HD 6750 or HD 6770 is more than enough to provide good gaming experience.

PhysX with GTX 550 Ti...again it is a joke. PhysX put a hefty amount of load on the GPU and using same GPU for both Gaming and PhysX drops the performance of the card significantly. Just enable PhysX with Batman Arkham City with a single GTS 550-Ti, you will find out that you are getting below 20 FPS, even at 1600X900 or 1440X900 resolution. That is the reason to use a separate cheaper card for PhysX.
For using PhysX with a single GPU, a 560 Ti is minimum ti get good performance.

N

I think I'l go with the 6670 and what Jripper said for the base system..

Thank you all!