Google in talks with Mediatek for a 100 $ Nexus with 64 bit Cpu

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Recently, a rumor surfaced saying that Google would be pushing its Nexus program to the limit with the Nexus 6 and aiming for a sub-$100 unlocked price point, rather than the $300 flagship segment. Part of getting the device cost down would be in using a MediaTek processor, and now we're getting an idea which processor that may be.

A report from Taiwan’s Economic Daily News says that the specific MediaTek processor used could be either the "quad-core MT6732 64-bit chip clocked at 1.5GHz, or the octa-core MT6752 SoC running at a frequency of 2.0GHz." Both would be powerful chips with Mali-T760 GPUs, and LTE capable, but the real news is that both chips would be 64-bit and use the new ARMv8 instruction set (which is the real reason 64-bit mobile chips offer big performance boosts).

MediaTek devices tend to be seen as somewhat "lesser" because of the budget pricing on the devices, but these chips sound pretty serious. They may not stack up exactly to a Snapdragon 801, but when you're paying $100 full price for a smartphone, you shouldn't be expecting that anyway.

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But Mediatek commits gross violations of the GNU General Public License. They demand a fee when asked for the source, lol.

Isn't the whole purpose of nexus devices is to be a standard for developers to work on?

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moniker said:
But Mediatek commits gross violations of the GNU General Public License. They demand a fee when asked for the source, lol.

Isn't the whole purpose of nexus devices is to be a standard for developers to work on?

yeah true but mediatek is changing in big ways now and is targeting USA with integrated LTE chips like 6595 so that is about to change . recently mediatek also came out and said it will release android 4.4 source for 6589,6582,6592 chips .. now how much do they stand on their words remain to be seen..

but with all the rebranding and expansion looks like things will be better for consumers..

I am sure google would force mediatek to release source and that should open the gates for development (I hope I am not wrong). I would like to see Octacore with decent 5/8 mp camera and good screen for 150$ (10k INR)

BTW what is advantage of 64 bit CPU in mobiles?

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harshilsharma63 said:
BTW what is advantage of 64 bit CPU in mobiles?

similiar to 32bit and 64bit in x86 but in mobile, not much application as yet,though its more future proof but just like ART over dalvik u may lose support for older apps unless the apps are updated for it

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harshilsharma63 said:
BTW what is advantage of 64 bit CPU in mobiles?

64 bit isn't much useful unless the application is itself coded to take advantage for 64 bit..

the real performance gain will come from Arm v8 instruction set..

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kkn13 said:
similiar to 32bit and 64bit in x86 but in mobile, not much application as yet,though its more future proof but just like ART over dalvik u may lose support for older apps unless the apps are updated for it

how many times should i repeat it will not loose support, it is 32 bit compatible with older apps... Mr. Cyber geniu

Google + Mediatek = Price advantage...

We are already crushed by the so called f**k*n* global economics,where 1$= Rs. 60.40(approx.)

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rish said:
64 bit isn't much useful unless the application is itself coded to take advantage for 64 bit..

the real performance gain will come from Arm v8 instruction set..

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how many times should i repeat it will not loose support, it is 32 bit compatible with older apps... Mr. Cyber geniu

you seem a little "zoned" out i assume
for eg try running xp software on windows 7
im sure u got the idea
it may or may not lose support
u need to get ur facts right before correcting others
when iphone 5s released alot of older apps refused to run without an update

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kkn13 said:
you seem a little "zoned" out i assume
for eg try running xp software on windows 7
im sure u got the idea
it may or may not lose support
u need to get ur facts right before correcting others
when iphone 5s released alot of older apps refused to run without an update

lol you have dropped to now default Custom titles lol.. how low can you go.. ? :crazy:

yeah windows XP and Windows 7 are two very different Operating systems with very very different kernels and core basics and mostly all windows xp apps runs fine on windows 7 ( if both are 32 bit )

regarding Apple iphone 5s .. IOS 7 is 64 bit .. obviously if your OS is 64 bit then it will have problem running old apps that were made for 32 bit and will need to be updated for 64 bit.... though i am not 100% sure about it..
i googled it and it showed apple has made that compulsory in the sdk that they need to be updated.. so it is apple's issue

if tomorrow mediatek launches 64 bit CPU with android 4.4 kitkat all old apps will run fine without updating it .. and there is no need for google to launch 64 bit OS until (i read somewhere android is already 64 bit ready but i maybe wrong not sure about it) at least 64 bit hardware is widely adopted..

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rish said:
lol you have dropped to now default Custom titles lol.. how low can you go.. ?

yeah windows XP and Windows 7 are two very different Operating systems with very very different kernels and core basics and mostly all windows xp apps runs fine on windows 7 ( if both are 32 bit )

regarding Apple iphone 5s .. IOS 7 is 64 bit genius .. obviously if your OS is 64 bit then it will have problem running old apps that were made for 32 bit and will need to be updated for 64 bit....

if tomorrow meditek launches 64 bit CPU with android 4.4 kitkat all old apps will run fine without updating it ..

wow man u just showed ur own ignorance
learn to google stuff before "correcting" me

You will have absolutely NO incompatibility issues in a nexus device.. PERIOD
Im sure Google will take steps to fix any problem 64 bit will cause on older apps .. Google isnt EA games that they will release a product without addressing issues like this

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kkn13 said:
wow man u just showed ur own ignorance
learn to google stuff before "correcting" me

i googled it and it showed apple has made that compulsory that they need to be updated.. so it is apple's issue

it won't have any issues in android

well what can i say i am a human not god like you that knows everything , how can a human correct a god :pray:

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Wow two trolls following me around across the forums and misleading others , like I said one more personal attack on me and ill report u,stick to the topic and for heavens sake google before posting ,otherwise u will look foolish like in the other threads where u were reprimanded

It is said that you see the world as you are. So if you think that your are someone righteous then you will see evil(trolls) all around, but fail to see your own fault.

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dude don't comment on stuff u don't know abt u will look foolish,he's already got a warning

Hey ,Hey, brothers(@kkn13 + [MENTION=138559]rish[/MENTION]) please stop fighting each other...since you are deviating away from the topic.

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I know sorry abt that he's going to my profile and puts nonsensical comments on all my posts in the forums,it would be nice if he stopped because I've tried ignoring him,I'm not gonna reply to him

kkn13 said:
I know sorry abt that he's going to my profile and puts nonsensical comments on all my posts in the forums,it would be nice if he stopped because I've tried ignoring him,I'm not gonna reply to him

A wise decision from an intelligent brother of course.

Thank You.

I really wish this comes true and people stop buying Karbonn/mmx and their company shuts down and the managers come on the road unable to provide for their children. The way that they have tortured me and others while flatly denying customer service, at least i deserve that much.

^ After the elections,if a stable-coalition govt. is formed at the central ,then hopefully we might expect a Rupee evaluation against Dollar.
Google Nexus(with Mediatek chipset) will definitely make others bite the dust,if the price performance is kept consistent,and the sweet spot of costing being under the 100$ mark...

Friend, Micromax has increased the quality of its products(particularly Tablets),though its A.S.S. needs a gigantic uprising to woo customers here.

Yes but if ASS is not good, you will feel cheated in the end. Its like your phone becomes your new friend, you guys enjoy a lot and then one day it shuts the door on your face and doesn't explain why. I dont want to have those kind of friends anymore.

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micromax is certainly the best indian oem but they can do better with their after sales etc,maybe they can promote cyanogenmod or stock android as well to attract people away from samsung
its really sad that we pay so much extra for phones in india yet no oem offers service like in other countries only nokia,dell,sony,hp and apple to some extent offer decent service but others despite having better products sometimes lose out in service-centres etc

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kg11sgbg said:
Google Nexus(with Mediatek chipset) will definitely make others bite the dust,if the price performance is kept consistent,and the sweet spot of costing being under the 100$ mark...

if it is 100$ in usa then we will get it for 150-200$

i think this 100$ nexus may never happen .. i am wondering if google really makes this device it will just flat out close the business of samsung,sony,lg i wonder how can they not be up against this ? nexus got a pass through by saying it is a developer device and it has basically steered away many people from flagships.. but a device at 10-12k will just end all competition considering its fast updates .. maybe a 100$ wearable or something that could use that chip or a tablet .. but a phone ? i don't think so.. another possibility it might never get released here.. as cheap budget phones are not released much in USA as they are launched here..

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I don't think people will buy the budget nexus with a mediatek over a Moto g which is certainly better overall and its chipset or even the Lumia 520/525 or micromax which already has an established name in India given the number of people buying the canvas series over say a Samsung galaxy phone , google should have partnered with micromax and made a phone like the Moto g with a big screen or something ....... Personally I don't buy phones based on screen size etc but I know alot of people who would buy such a phone , most of my friends buy large screen phones as they don't have tablets etc

^Well said logical point.
Google itself a "Goliath" amongst several "Goliaths" might not disturb the market dynamics.

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Yeah plus people are getting paranoid abt Google's changing account policies like u need an account login everywhere etc, the first thing I did after getting my nexus 5 and 7 was to disable google+ and other services which I don't need

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Though stock android is gaining momentum now but the devices are either too expensive or too limited for eg Moto g has a great price but lack of sd can be an annoyance for some like me,if they release a 32gb one as well it'll make sense not to have an sd slot