GSMarena had conducted a 5 megapixel cam shootout again.
*www.gsmarena.com/grand_five_megapixel_shootout-review-206p2.php
*www.gsmarena.com/grand_five_megapixel_shootout-review-206p2.php
Grand 5 megapixel shootout
This just proves that Nokia completely rules when it comes to 5mpix camera phones. And just look at the brightness of N82's flash! K850i sucks in comparison.
Nice find ..
It seems n95 would top the chart followed by K850..
But what i have heard is that in K850 the real raw picture is saved instead of color processed pics in n95 ..so you get a pic in K850 in which you can do pic editing using photoshop really nicely later..
But afaik n95 is superior as it packs in good processor..which may come in handy...
K850 lost few grounds in video dept simply coz of less resolution ...
But i still will say that K850 will surely top the chart given few more firmware updates..
Or may be it next version say k890 just like k800 to 810 will top ...
@krazy
K850 flash is way to better than nokia ..
Dont worry ..
If you dont know how to take a photo with right..setting you may end up with this..
SE WILL RULE..
At any time se rocks...
It seems n95 would top the chart followed by K850..
But what i have heard is that in K850 the real raw picture is saved instead of color processed pics in n95 ..so you get a pic in K850 in which you can do pic editing using photoshop really nicely later..
But afaik n95 is superior as it packs in good processor..which may come in handy...
K850 lost few grounds in video dept simply coz of less resolution ...
But i still will say that K850 will surely top the chart given few more firmware updates..
Or may be it next version say k890 just like k800 to 810 will top ...
@krazy
K850 flash is way to better than nokia ..
Dont worry ..
If you dont know how to take a photo with right..setting you may end up with this..
SE WILL RULE..
At any time se rocks...
^^ Man whats wrong with you? What stupid settings are you talking about? What settings will you change in a flash? Just checkout those sample shots! Look at the difference between the overall brightness of the shot taken with K850i and the one taken with N82. K850i shots is clearly dark while N82 shot is perfectly bright. Still you say K850i flash is better than Nokia? Are you blind or something? And take that SE will rule bullshit somewhere else where it belongs. This place is not for fanboys.
^^ hehe K850i
SE rules..
^^ In your dreams pal. Did you even bother to go through the link Third Eye gave?
Now it is official. The n95 8gb/ n82 beat the k850i in every aspect.
I hope SE fanboys are able to digest this one.
I hope SE fanboys are able to digest this one.
^^ Thats the problem. They can't digest the truth even when its so obvious. And then they start making lame excuses about using wrong settings. As if GSMArena guys are noobs and this is the first time they've handled a digital camera.
I chose the N95 8GB in 5megapix as i felt it gave a more color-correct pic than the K850i.
And this choice has been made after long contemplation, about a year in waitin.
And i dont regret it. SE just went a lil wrong with it's 5megapix.
These words are from the mouth (ok... from the fingertips
) of a diehard SE fan.
*blog.koolbluez.com/2008/01/03/my-n95-8gb-im-in-luv-9/
And this choice has been made after long contemplation, about a year in waitin.
And i dont regret it. SE just went a lil wrong with it's 5megapix.
These words are from the mouth (ok... from the fingertips
) of a diehard SE fan.*img72.imageshack.us/img72/7869/21122008304lx1.th.jpg
*blog.koolbluez.com/2008/01/03/my-n95-8gb-im-in-luv-9/
Just give a few more days ,thats when the new firmware is going to hit...why coz this new platform on which K850 is placed is very buggy... Compared to symbian of nokia....
Another thing . ..is still gsmarena hasnt said anything about firmwar K850 was running..coz initial firmware had few bugs regarding flash...
Is thats so..then i dont see why nokia shouldn win....
@krazy p.s dont ever again say me to shut up...!
If you like nokia..fair and good...
Read my post... I didnt say that nokia are worst...they are smart phones..compared to K850 which is not!
Similar thing happened when k750 got launched....and all praised nokia's counterpart...but after few months everything changed... And now all know which is a BEST 2mp phone!
K850 will RULE 5MP ...PERIOD
again i WILL SAY SE WILL ROCK!
And nobody here has the right to say that i i shouldn!
As of setting.. There is a option in which you can have a light assisted auto focus especially for night time photo's..in which you have a LED light flashing during the auto focus procedure ..followed by full flash...xenon ... After full press of the shoot button...
I think this option is switched off as in default to save battery..!
Another thing . ..is still gsmarena hasnt said anything about firmwar K850 was running..coz initial firmware had few bugs regarding flash...
Is thats so..then i dont see why nokia shouldn win....
@krazy p.s dont ever again say me to shut up...!
If you like nokia..fair and good...
Read my post... I didnt say that nokia are worst...they are smart phones..compared to K850 which is not!
Similar thing happened when k750 got launched....and all praised nokia's counterpart...but after few months everything changed... And now all know which is a BEST 2mp phone!
K850 will RULE 5MP ...PERIOD
again i WILL SAY SE WILL ROCK!
And nobody here has the right to say that i i shouldn!
As of setting.. There is a option in which you can have a light assisted auto focus especially for night time photo's..in which you have a LED light flashing during the auto focus procedure ..followed by full flash...xenon ... After full press of the shoot button...
I think this option is switched off as in default to save battery..!
1. First i didn't say shut up!
2. Second SE does not rock/rule/whatever!
3. I didn't write all that because i like Nokia.
4. The fact that N82/N95 are smartphones have nothing to do with this. This is a camera comparison test.
5. Nothing of the sort you mentioned happened when K750i was launched. It was successful from its launch and got better reviews than N90 which was its rival then.
6. K850i does not rule and will not rule simply because of the fact that SE does not want it to rule. K850i is not the real deal from SE. It just exists so that SE has a 5mpix camera phone of its own among its rivals. The real deal is cooking in Sweden right now and will be ready soon. That will be a true rival for N82. You were just unlucky/silly to buy K850i without waiting.
7. You can post anything as long as it makes sense. Posting one thing when actual tests prove otherwise makes one look like a fool.
2. Second SE does not rock/rule/whatever!
3. I didn't write all that because i like Nokia.
4. The fact that N82/N95 are smartphones have nothing to do with this. This is a camera comparison test.
5. Nothing of the sort you mentioned happened when K750i was launched. It was successful from its launch and got better reviews than N90 which was its rival then.
6. K850i does not rule and will not rule simply because of the fact that SE does not want it to rule. K850i is not the real deal from SE. It just exists so that SE has a 5mpix camera phone of its own among its rivals. The real deal is cooking in Sweden right now and will be ready soon. That will be a true rival for N82. You were just unlucky/silly to buy K850i without waiting.
7. You can post anything as long as it makes sense. Posting one thing when actual tests prove otherwise makes one look like a fool.
Maybe K850 successor will rule,but Nokia also won't stop there
n82 - best 5mp right now .. period ..
using it ..and its superb overall phone ..not just superb camera phone ..
first battle - 2mp ..winner- k750i
second battle - 3.2 mp - winner- k800i
third battle - 5mp - winner- n82 ..hee hee
now lets wait for nokia and se to release their next gen camera phones .. also lg and samsung are not that behind ..moto too coming with few good ones ..
also if k850i can receive a firmware update suppose to improve camera performance .. so can nokia n82 ...
using it ..and its superb overall phone ..not just superb camera phone ..
first battle - 2mp ..winner- k750i
second battle - 3.2 mp - winner- k800i
third battle - 5mp - winner- n82 ..hee hee
now lets wait for nokia and se to release their next gen camera phones .. also lg and samsung are not that behind ..moto too coming with few good ones ..
also if k850i can receive a firmware update suppose to improve camera performance .. so can nokia n82 ...
First i said that you are not a admin nor a mod to RULE me...the way you said is like shut up...
Yes dude se WILL RULE!
Ya you didnt write it for nokia coz you are a moto fan! Lol
Read my post properly .. I way plainly commenting on my prev comment about nokia.. And i know smart phone thing is nothing to do with cam test.. Read properly!before commenting silly things..
If my memory is good...i think first k750 was considered low..or may be like not at all in the race!coz i owned it that time... But things changed after some time? Why you know coz firmware they released became stable and efficient. .!
And for your theory about putting K850 just to fill in 5MP slot in the race is sure fiction..!
Se here is to win and they have did it in style in the past...
And for your next version concept... I may have to accept it ... Similar to k750 which laid the foundation for k800
K850 will do it for next gen phones..
And i am not writing these since because i bought the phone..!
And thanks for the last comment...
And dont forget your post are saved in indian literature/cultural dept for future purposes...LOL..!
To all ..when gsmarena did a blind test K850 came last why coz many users did see just the thumbnail and voted! Was then the result final?no...
Now they conducted a real test and K850 came second! How was that? Magic ? No!not at all...
Pure performance!
Give it a few firmware updates... You will know win will win 5MP race!
And dont say symbian will also get a update...if se can...symbian platform are well tested platform...and if a am right symbian software comes from a different company ...not nokia..
But se's uiq is thier home brew platform...its not suprising to see bugs in them..
Symbian OS is produced by Symbian Ltd. but S60 is developed by Nokia while SE never developed UIQ. They just bought it from Symbian Ltd. some time back. And last year Motorola bought 50% of it from them. So its not a home brew platform or anything.
If i am right just because they bought doesnt imply symbian company gave the mobile platform which will work for next 50 years!
Hope you get the point..
Hope you get the point..
So what? They r a billion dollar company and if they cant even manage a OS development, they should shut down.
Earlier it was Nokia for functionality and SE for Music + cam.
But with xpress music fones and their 5mp cam lineup, Nokia has changed much of it.
Even i am not a fanboy but learn to give credit where it is due.
Btw i m not saying that os/fw releases can't be buggy.. Even nokia does that. But u cant take a bad fone in hope of future better firmware releases.
Earlier it was Nokia for functionality and SE for Music + cam.
But with xpress music fones and their 5mp cam lineup, Nokia has changed much of it.
Even i am not a fanboy but learn to give credit where it is due.
Btw i m not saying that os/fw releases can't be buggy.. Even nokia does that. But u cant take a bad fone in hope of future better firmware releases.
[FONT="]Hey Guys... It seems like a war is going on btw SE and Nokia fans.
Let me share my opinion over here.... b4 that let me tell you that I have a LG RD3000 (CDMA Reliance) handsets with me., But my job profile allows me to have hands on almost all the mobile devices that exists in the world, as am working in a mobile gaming company where we develop games for these all devices.
Long back K750i was considered to be the best camera handset [b4 3.2 cam came into market] it's true even today if we compare 2.0 mp camera phone K750i has the edge.
When it comes to 3.2 mp camera phone, here to SE K800/K790i/K810 is better compared to others.
And the similar expectations from SE were taken grantedly when the 5.0 mp camera phone was launched, But fact is that, N82 clearly dominates any other rivals (Samsung, LG and even SE) in this category at present.
In future who will rock only the time will tell us! So wait and watch[/FONT]
Let me share my opinion over here.... b4 that let me tell you that I have a LG RD3000 (CDMA Reliance) handsets with me., But my job profile allows me to have hands on almost all the mobile devices that exists in the world, as am working in a mobile gaming company where we develop games for these all devices.
Long back K750i was considered to be the best camera handset [b4 3.2 cam came into market] it's true even today if we compare 2.0 mp camera phone K750i has the edge.
When it comes to 3.2 mp camera phone, here to SE K800/K790i/K810 is better compared to others.
And the similar expectations from SE were taken grantedly when the 5.0 mp camera phone was launched, But fact is that, N82 clearly dominates any other rivals (Samsung, LG and even SE) in this category at present.
In future who will rock only the time will tell us! So wait and watch[/FONT]
hehe!!!!!
lots happening here...how cum the n82 tends to get worse pics when seen in the post cam pics section than the pics i take frm my k850???
@krazy-lol.dude i had read post of urs sumwhere where u clearly stated that u hate nokia...can u just show me a single post where u have not outdone urself by sparing SE??
As per as cam quality goes...cant really say as yet...th nokia surely "rules" now as per "the comparisons"...but if u chk out gsm and date back to the time n95 was first launched..u will see tht the k800 beat nokia in quite a few aspects...
now if nokia can come up this much...i dont realize how SE will not....newaz..as of now..the nokia rules thru "auto" settings.period
lots happening here...how cum the n82 tends to get worse pics when seen in the post cam pics section than the pics i take frm my k850???
@krazy-lol.dude i had read post of urs sumwhere where u clearly stated that u hate nokia...can u just show me a single post where u have not outdone urself by sparing SE??
As per as cam quality goes...cant really say as yet...th nokia surely "rules" now as per "the comparisons"...but if u chk out gsm and date back to the time n95 was first launched..u will see tht the k800 beat nokia in quite a few aspects...
now if nokia can come up this much...i dont realize how SE will not....newaz..as of now..the nokia rules thru "auto" settings.period
hehe!!!!!
lots happening here...how cum the n82 tends to get worse pics when seen in the post cam pics section than the pics i take frm my k850???
@krazy-lol.dude i had read post of urs sumwhere where u clearly stated that u hate nokia...can u just show me a single post where u have not outdone urself by sparing SE??
As per as cam quality goes...cant really say as yet...th nokia surely "rules" now as per "the comparisons"...but if u chk out gsm and date back to the time n95 was first launched..u will see tht the k800 beat nokia in quite a few aspects...
now if nokia can come up this much...i dont realize how SE will not....newaz..as of now..the nokia rules thru "auto" settings.period
are u referring to my n82 pictures dude ? those are pretty good ..just taken casually .. if u want to make a shoot out lets have a shoot out ..i will post some new ones ..lets compare ..
also i dont find pictures from ur k850i , that impressive ..
Ya may be they are chu edgy in auto setting.. But will never outrun se if each had particular manual setting..
I am not totally against nokia..i like it for fast processing of photo taken..may be it has better hardware than se...
And for pathik...
Symbian is a independent company whose sole purpose is building platforms...
But se few months ago only got uiq and also released K850 on brand new platform ie A200...which is still at some buggy stage...similar when k750 was launched on A100 if my knowledge is correct...so all i am saying...nokia have a well over edge in platform and less bug..compared to se... And all that will change when new firmware's hit in upcoming months...
All i could say is SE is always technologically better... Than nokia...
I am not totally against nokia..i like it for fast processing of photo taken..may be it has better hardware than se...
And for pathik...
Symbian is a independent company whose sole purpose is building platforms...
But se few months ago only got uiq and also released K850 on brand new platform ie A200...which is still at some buggy stage...similar when k750 was launched on A100 if my knowledge is correct...so all i am saying...nokia have a well over edge in platform and less bug..compared to se... And all that will change when new firmware's hit in upcoming months...
All i could say is SE is always technologically better... Than nokia...
if ur the only on having an n82..then yep..ur the one..and yea..those sure are causal pics..how cum u post only 2 or 3 at time???
just roam bout ur house pic a teddy bea or sumthing and post..thts wat i do..and ths casual...
sure..have a shootout..m at it...
Here are my N82 macro shots in extremely low light.
*www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showpost.php?p=725830&postcount=393
Here are some more tests.
*www.phonearena.com/htmls/5-megapixel-GSM-Cameraphone-Comparison-Q4-2007-review-r_1889-p_1.html
*www.phonearena.com/htmls/5-megapixel-GSM-Cameraphone-Comparison-Q4-2007-review-r_1889-p_1.html
*www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showpost.php?p=725830&postcount=393
Here are some more tests.
*www.phonearena.com/htmls/5-megapixel-GSM-Cameraphone-Comparison-Q4-2007-review-r_1889-p_1.html
*www.phonearena.com/htmls/5-megapixel-GSM-Cameraphone-Comparison-Q4-2007-review-r_1889-p_1.html
if ur the only on having an n82..then yep..ur the one..and yea..those sure are causal pics..how cum u post only 2 or 3 at time???
just roam bout ur house pic a teddy bea or sumthing and post..thts wat i do..and ths casual...
sure..have a shootout..m at it...
personally.. i dont find ur k850i pictures that good ..
@amd I never, ever said that I hate Nokia. Quite the opposite actually. I like Nokia the most among all manufacturers mostly because of S60 and nothing else. S60 is addictive and its hard to live without it after getting used to it and I give full marks to Nokia for designing such OS. Second thing is that contrary to what you believe I don't hate SE. I guess I have said this ample times before but my current phone is a SE which I've been using since 8 months and i'm satisfied with it and only miss the smartphone features. I had the choice of buying a Nokia including S60 but still having considered my budget this phone made more sense to me and so I bought it. I don't even mind suggesting SE phones to my family and friends and many of my friends have bought SE phones on my recommendation.
What gets me worked up in these threads is the simple fact that K850i having an inferior camera to every 5mpix rival is made out to be the best by you two, not least because of the fact that you've bought it. Everybody on the internet have accepted the fact that K850i has the worst 5mpix camera while N82 has the best. But despite all the evidence you two seem adamant on your opinions and go on and on about how great the camera is. Atleast i'm not worried about the informed people who obviously know the truth. Its those who don't know much about these things and who come to this forum to get some info get misled by your rants and make wrong choice. Its those people whom I feel sorry for.
What gets me worked up in these threads is the simple fact that K850i having an inferior camera to every 5mpix rival is made out to be the best by you two, not least because of the fact that you've bought it. Everybody on the internet have accepted the fact that K850i has the worst 5mpix camera while N82 has the best. But despite all the evidence you two seem adamant on your opinions and go on and on about how great the camera is. Atleast i'm not worried about the informed people who obviously know the truth. Its those who don't know much about these things and who come to this forum to get some info get misled by your rants and make wrong choice. Its those people whom I feel sorry for.
I feel the SE's do better in macro shots.. my W800i did an excellent job there.
See this... no light.. flash...
The N82 shot was with a flash, right? And edited...
Odd feeling man.
I own a W810i(i love it) and it gives great macro shots but not so good that it could beat N82.The colour production and details are better in N82.. see another(no light)
*s2.supload.com/free/24012008293.jpg/view/
@krazy afaik symbian is not created by nokia...
This is not a fair test why coz author is not a expert in photography... And should have been conducted by a person from deviantart.com or someother..
And what if the digi cam they used was a sony's cyber shot one? And what if the results came out where similar to K850?
All phones should have been exploited to max by a professional photographer...
More notes the author's mark are subject to error coz he may like a photo to be dark for some and more colorfull in other...it should have been again a blinded pick up..
This is not a fair test why coz author is not a expert in photography... And should have been conducted by a person from deviantart.com or someother..
And what if the digi cam they used was a sony's cyber shot one? And what if the results came out where similar to K850?
All phones should have been exploited to max by a professional photographer...
More notes the author's mark are subject to error coz he may like a photo to be dark for some and more colorfull in other...it should have been again a blinded pick up..
u checked out my 800i pic... u can actually see flaws of the items in the pic
Taken on my W800i, had a little scratch on the lens... but the results r definitely not bad...
*www.box.net/data/public/large_thumb/2006-06-22/f5838edd31ac7a98b174d3382e78cca7.jpg
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Author's surpirse note!!! These pics were uploaded by me online exactly 1 year back!!!
N82's good.... but it's 5megapix 4 god's sake.. and the 800i... a paltry(now!) 2 megapix...
[WHY DO U EDIT UR PICS... UPLOAD THE REAL ONES, YAAR]
I do agree that the 5megapix phones (count my N95 8GB) r better than SE 5 megapix... right now.
Taken on my W800i, had a little scratch on the lens... but the results r definitely not bad...
*www.box.net/data/public/large_thumb/2006-06-22/f5838edd31ac7a98b174d3382e78cca7.jpg
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Macros:
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Author's surpirse note!!! These pics were uploaded by me online exactly 1 year back!!!
N82's good.... but it's 5megapix 4 god's sake.. and the 800i... a paltry(now!) 2 megapix...
[WHY DO U EDIT UR PICS... UPLOAD THE REAL ONES, YAAR]
I do agree that the 5megapix phones (count my N95 8GB
) r better than SE 5 megapix... right now.
grapes are sour..i can go on to say that i dont like ur pics..they r too blurry as i have already said...
As i said in my prev post.. Each person have different taste towards photo's..some like more contrast, some like some greenish in their photo...only a real expert in photography world can judge them...
Time to call someone from photography magazine to sort this problem!
I am very sad that i am in a position of not able to post any pics...
Amd64 i count on you man...show your BEST and show that K850 is not here to loose...but to WIN!
Time to call someone from photography magazine to sort this problem!
I am very sad that i am in a position of not able to post any pics...
Amd64 i count on you man...show your BEST and show that K850 is not here to loose...but to WIN!
^^^i cant do it alone man!!!..u also have a powerhouse in ur hands.lets show them...
In the end, they are just phones! Nothing more, nothing less! You will live, even if your phone cam takes great/crap photos!
@amd64
I am in hostel dude.. And way out of my broadband...connection...
I have my exams coming up and will touch my system by mid next month ...
It seems our firmware is being delayed to long..any news ?
I am in hostel dude.. And way out of my broadband...connection...
I have my exams coming up and will touch my system by mid next month ...
It seems our firmware is being delayed to long..any news ?
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u in hostel??wch collg??wch year??
</off topic>
i posted a few pics in the cam section..how are they..went out on a ride just now..was taking the pics thru a running car..
u in hostel??wch collg??wch year??
</off topic>
i posted a few pics in the cam section..how are they..went out on a ride just now..was taking the pics thru a running car..
@naveen, I know Symbian is not developed by Nokia, but Series 60 is.
About the test, i.e. If you're talking about the one by GSMArena, is perfect. It does not need a professional photographer. Why? Because people buying these phones won't be pros either. They are for casual photographers. As for the comment about the Sony Cybershot camera, i didn't understand what you were trying to say.
About the blind test, they did take that some time back and N95 8gb won while K850i was last among the four.
About the test, i.e. If you're talking about the one by GSMArena, is perfect. It does not need a professional photographer. Why? Because people buying these phones won't be pros either. They are for casual photographers. As for the comment about the Sony Cybershot camera, i didn't understand what you were trying to say.
About the blind test, they did take that some time back and N95 8gb won while K850i was last among the four.
When did i say otherwise?
You are justifying SE's shortcomings.
And Nokia is way better than SE currently in terms of technology.
@amd64
I am doing medicine ...gona finish 3rd year with this test starting on feb...
@krazy
Your comment is very kiddish dude...how come when a site like gsmarena , a world wide famous conducts a test which all are expecting , be without a expert? This is so dumb!
And for the second part...did you read th gsmarena review page? They said they used cannon digicam for comparison..i simply said what if sony's cybershot digi cam would have been used..?would the result then change?hope you get the point now!and for the blind test part, i said the review should have been conducted by experts with blind test in place!
I am doing medicine ...gona finish 3rd year with this test starting on feb...
@krazy
Your comment is very kiddish dude...how come when a site like gsmarena , a world wide famous conducts a test which all are expecting , be without a expert? This is so dumb!
And for the second part...did you read th gsmarena review page? They said they used cannon digicam for comparison..i simply said what if sony's cybershot digi cam would have been used..?would the result then change?hope you get the point now!and for the blind test part, i said the review should have been conducted by experts with blind test in place!
Didn't i explained. The tests and the tester need not be a pro simply because the target customer aren't pros either. Even Digit explained once in their consumer digital camera test that they don't go too professional with their tests as these cameras aren't targeted at pros. Pros don't use mobile phone cameras or consumer cameras. The test that GSMArena did was perfectly acceptable for the buyers of these phones. Remember these aren't real cameras but just phones with cameras.
Also if a pro photographer would've done the photography what difference would've made to the final result? All phones would've performed better but their progress would be the same (since the photographer is same) and the end result would be similar to the one posted by GSMArena. You'd just got prettier shots. If a pro can improve the performance of K850i then he can do the same for N82 and in the end the result would be same and N82 would still be ahead.
And about the Canon camera, its shots are just provided so that we can have an idea of what the real scene looked like. Its presence in no way influences the test result. The GSMArena guys obviously knew what the actual scene looked like and didn't need to depend on or compare with the Canon shots. So even if a Sony camera was used the test result would still remain the same.
Also if a pro photographer would've done the photography what difference would've made to the final result? All phones would've performed better but their progress would be the same (since the photographer is same) and the end result would be similar to the one posted by GSMArena. You'd just got prettier shots. If a pro can improve the performance of K850i then he can do the same for N82 and in the end the result would be same and N82 would still be ahead.
And about the Canon camera, its shots are just provided so that we can have an idea of what the real scene looked like. Its presence in no way influences the test result. The GSMArena guys obviously knew what the actual scene looked like and didn't need to depend on or compare with the Canon shots. So even if a Sony camera was used the test result would still remain the same.
Arent these phones camera's coming closer and closer to real ones..to be honest... My k800's photo's looked very artificial even though it is a 3.2 MP..but with K850 the pics are closer to what i see in digi cam..p.s i have a cannon 7.2 MP one...
If thats the case i dont see why a expert shouldn have called upon...and if thats the case again both nokia and se wouldn have went far to add carl zeis lens in former and cyber shot featur in latter...
All i am saying is is they are very particular about cam features alone...they should have brought in experts rather than doing it themselvs...
Wasnt this whole shootout particularly for cam feature? And surely with latest update coming and with proper review again , K850 will come first as it did now from 4th to 2nd place...
But all i can say damage upon se has been done and now many will point to the gsmarena to show their nokia is the BEST...
But truth is the other way round!
All i am saying is is they are very particular about cam features alone...they should have brought in experts rather than doing it themselvs...
Wasnt this whole shootout particularly for cam feature? And surely with latest update coming and with proper review again , K850 will come first as it did now from 4th to 2nd place...
But all i can say damage upon se has been done and now many will point to the gsmarena to show their nokia is the BEST...
But truth is the other way round!
All i am saying is is they are very particular about cam features alone...they should have brought in experts rather than doing it themselvs...
Wasnt this whole shootout particularly for cam feature? And surely with latest update coming and with proper review again , K850 will come first as it did now from 4th to 2nd place...
But all i can say damage upon se has been done and now many will point to the gsmarena to show their nokia is the BEST...
But truth is the other way round!
All i am saying is is they are very particular about cam features alone...they should have brought in experts rather than doing it themselvs...
Wasnt this whole shootout particularly for cam feature? And surely with latest update coming and with proper review again , K850 will come first as it did now from 4th to 2nd place...
But all i can say damage upon se has been done and now many will point to the gsmarena to show their nokia is the BEST...
But truth is the other way round!
If thats the case i dont see why a expert shouldn have called upon...and if thats the case again both nokia and se wouldn have went far to add carl zeis lens in former and cyber shot featur in latter...
All i am saying is is they are very particular about cam features alone...they should have brought in experts rather than doing it themselvs...
Wasnt this whole shootout particularly for cam feature? And surely with latest update coming and with proper review again , K850 will come first as it did now from 4th to 2nd place...
But all i can say damage upon se has been done and now many will point to the gsmarena to show their nokia is the BEST...
But truth is the other way round!
All i am saying is is they are very particular about cam features alone...they should have brought in experts rather than doing it themselvs...
Wasnt this whole shootout particularly for cam feature? And surely with latest update coming and with proper review again , K850 will come first as it did now from 4th to 2nd place...
But all i can say damage upon se has been done and now many will point to the gsmarena to show their nokia is the BEST...
But truth is the other way round!
All i am saying is is they are very particular about cam features alone...they should have brought in experts rather than doing it themselvs...
Wasnt this whole shootout particularly for cam feature? And surely with latest update coming and with proper review again , K850 will come first as it did now from 4th to 2nd place...
But all i can say damage upon se has been done and now many will point to the gsmarena to show their nokia is the BEST...
But truth is the other way round!
All i am saying is is they are very particular about cam features alone...they should have brought in experts rather than doing it themselvs...
Wasnt this whole shootout particularly for cam feature? And surely with latest update coming and with proper review again , K850 will come first as it did now from 4th to 2nd place...
But all i can say damage upon se has been done and now many will point to the gsmarena to show their nokia is the BEST...
But truth is the other way round!
First thing is that I hardly find any fault with GSMArena's test. I don't know what difference an 'expert' would've done. Since now that you're such an expert in photography, you can tell us all what exactly is wrong with the test (except the fact that your beloved K850i lost).
Second thing is regarding Cybershot and Carl Zeiss, Cybershot is just a brand name while Carl Zeiss lens is a real hardware part that works. Cybershot is just Sony's trademark which SE uses in its phones to cash in on the popularity of the Cybershot brand name while it has no effect on the image quality. Similarly Walkman is also just a brand name which doesn't do much since both Walkman phones and non-Walkman SE phones sound the same. Also K750i without the Cybershot tag performs better than K550i which has that tag. Carl Zeiss lens actually work and do their part in achieving a great picture.
Second thing is regarding Cybershot and Carl Zeiss, Cybershot is just a brand name while Carl Zeiss lens is a real hardware part that works. Cybershot is just Sony's trademark which SE uses in its phones to cash in on the popularity of the Cybershot brand name while it has no effect on the image quality. Similarly Walkman is also just a brand name which doesn't do much since both Walkman phones and non-Walkman SE phones sound the same. Also K750i without the Cybershot tag performs better than K550i which has that tag. Carl Zeiss lens actually work and do their part in achieving a great picture.
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dood cant u understand one thing that some guys out there just wont accept the fact that Nokia has beaten SE in its own game.
now tell me one thing which the K850i can do but the N95 8GB cant do.now the SE guys will tell that K850i doesnt hav Symnbian OS.now did i tell SE not to put GPS,WiFi,Symbian OS,Carl Zeiss Optics etc in its K850i?????
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The Canon camera used in the gsmarena comparision tests is certainly not the best camera around. they should have used a Canon IXUS 860 IS instead. its one helluva digicam.
and i personally feel that they were a bit biased towards the Samsung G600. and regarding the N82 vs K850i war, Who Cares?!!? Buy what you like n keep shut n enjoy, dont go bragging about your thingamajig. good for nothing arguements, what do we get supporting or ditching one?
and i personally feel that they were a bit biased towards the Samsung G600. and regarding the N82 vs K850i war, Who Cares?!!? Buy what you like n keep shut n enjoy, dont go bragging about your thingamajig. good for nothing arguements, what do we get supporting or ditching one?
@hellgate-the the n73 had carl zeiss optics too..wat happened??..the k800 beat it blavk and blue..u mean to say tht sony who devoloped the carl zeiss lens will use inferior lenses on their phones..lol
@apacheman-u r rite...but whos gonna respond neway...these threads are the uns with the max footfall..
@apacheman-u r rite...but whos gonna respond neway...these threads are the uns with the max footfall..
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@hellgate-the the n73 had carl zeiss optics too..wat happened??..the k800 beat it blavk and blue..u mean to say tht sony who devoloped the carl zeiss lens will use inferior lenses on their phones..lol
but the N73ME did beat the K790i which was the 1st 3.2mp cam from SE.
the thing is both these companies will continue to charn out gr8 products and we'll continue to hav topics like this.
^^k790 and k800 are the same..only the 800 has 3g and the 790 has edge...
ye..ur rite...lets close it here...
ye..ur rite...lets close it here...
@Hellgate
You simply some how want to say that nokia won...
Dude k800 and k790 are same phones...and were launched at same time...
+1 for apacheman for the digi cam used! In review!
@krazy
Dude i am thinking why do just keep on bashing se...
You better listen to W series and compare it with ipod. .W is way better than ipod...
And for your cybershot theory...nothing can replace digicam...but you can try to incorporate some cybershot functionality into phones, which is what they have done...
And music quality is always better...and what do you mean by carlzeis works? Dude then tell me why your nokia phone failed in 3.2 MP race?your comments are very silly dude..
Again i am saying just give K850 one or two firmware update and then you will know who the real winner is!
I am still not saying nokia is worst...
Se is better than nokia..
And also i want to mention about the size factor..,
P.s can someone post the first two pictures from gsmarena review with all the 5MP phones lined up?
K850 is so little compared to monsters by the side...this is where se RULE!technology dude...!
Can your nokia put all the features or similar features of se in the same small size of se?
You simply some how want to say that nokia won...
Dude k800 and k790 are same phones...and were launched at same time...
+1 for apacheman for the digi cam used! In review!
@krazy
Dude i am thinking why do just keep on bashing se...
You better listen to W series and compare it with ipod. .W is way better than ipod...
And for your cybershot theory...nothing can replace digicam...but you can try to incorporate some cybershot functionality into phones, which is what they have done...
And music quality is always better...and what do you mean by carlzeis works? Dude then tell me why your nokia phone failed in 3.2 MP race?your comments are very silly dude..
Again i am saying just give K850 one or two firmware update and then you will know who the real winner is!
I am still not saying nokia is worst...
Se is better than nokia..
And also i want to mention about the size factor..,
P.s can someone post the first two pictures from gsmarena review with all the 5MP phones lined up?
K850 is so little compared to monsters by the side...this is where se RULE!technology dude...!
Can your nokia put all the features or similar features of se in the same small size of se?
hey thanks fr lettin us know.
naveen do you even read what I type? First I never bashed SE. Second, and for crying out loud, I have a Walkman phone and I know how it sounds. And no, it doesn't sound better than an iPod. And which Nokia phone failed in 3.2mpix race? N73 can capture equally good images as K790i. Its just because of the xenon flash that K790i had an edge in the dark. And as for size thing, N82 is just as small as K850i. And it packs in a lot more hardware like GPS, wi-fi, etc.
Anyway here are some more sample pics of N82 and some comparison pics of N82, N95 and K850i. *www.mobile-review.com/review/nokia-n82.shtml
Don't try reading the text though, its russian. But an english version will come soon and is probably being worked on as we speak.
Anyway here are some more sample pics of N82 and some comparison pics of N82, N95 and K850i. *www.mobile-review.com/review/nokia-n82.shtml
Don't try reading the text though, its russian. But an english version will come soon and is probably being worked on as we speak.
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there ur man.ur the one whos bashing Nokia.
ur directly saying that SE is better than Nokia.
then even i've gotta say that Nokia is better than SE for the sake of it.
all i wanna say is that its no use arguing like this as to which company is better.its no use.both hav their pros and cons and its upto as to which model u shall buy and which not.its the buyers discretion.it doesnt mean that if i buy Nokia N95 8GB then out Nokia becomes the king and is bettre than SE or if u buy SE K850i it doesnt mean that SE becomes king.
hope u get my point.
ya naveen and krazy now cummon..lets clos this here..
as for krazy..u shouldnt be using an SE...the k790 in the initial n95 tests beat the n95 in some corners including macro shots...and u want to say that it won due to xenon..
get a life mate and stop this crap...its like going on and on..but if u want to carry on guys...no probs..i will always be there to defend SE...
as for krazy..u shouldnt be using an SE...the k790 in the initial n95 tests beat the n95 in some corners including macro shots...and u want to say that it won due to xenon..
get a life mate and stop this crap...its like going on and on..but if u want to carry on guys...no probs..i will always be there to defend SE...
Ok lets stop here... I am ready to argue till page no 50 and more...
I am stopping post here...no replies to above mentioned post..!
More over i have a final exam to take care of...
Lets all say Haier mobile phones are the BEST one..!LOL...NOBODY GETS HURT!
Shall we??
I am stopping post here...no replies to above mentioned post..!
More over i have a final exam to take care of...
Lets all say Haier mobile phones are the BEST one..!LOL...NOBODY GETS HURT!
Shall we??
@amd WTF do you mean I shouldn't be using an SE? Since when have you started deciding what I use? And K790i beat N95? Haha what a retarded comment! Get a life of your own man! K790i's only advantage over N73 or N95 was the xenon flash and nothing else. Get a job man, you're wasting our time.
^^^i never said k800 beat n95...i just said tht it beat the n95 when it came out in a few segments but lost in most.i just implied that....yep..i dnt think u like using ur SE...i havent seen a single post where u actully praise se..neways thts diff...
Obviously I like it! Why on earth would I carry it around for 8 months if I didn't like it? Of course my next phone won't be a SE, but thats not because I hate SE, but I want a S60 phone. And liking it doesn't mean I go around praising it. Boasting about my own stuff won't be very modest and definitely something I wouldn't like to do.
Same Nokia & SE quarrel....
No more Tu Tu Mein Mein,
Both phones rulezzzz
No more Tu Tu Mein Mein,
Both phones rulezzzz
mobile review has n82 review out .. in which they have compared n82 to k850i .. and n82 came out winner ..the fact that everyone knew ..
*www.mobile-review.com/review/nokia-n82-en.shtml
*www.mobile-review.com/review/nokia-n82-en.shtml