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Half Life 3

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rohan
rohan Original post #1
Mar 20, 2005 at 11:18 AM
Suppose tommorow VALVE relases half life 3 all over the market.

WHAT WOULD HAPPEN? WRITE YOUR THOUGHTS HERE TO WIN YOURSELF A COPY OF HALF LIFE 3 WHENEVER IT COMES...
Ethan_Hunt
Mar 20, 2005 at 11:46 AM
So hummm....let me guess in a way ur a Valve Representator or Some big Con man or a Big Hoaxer :? :shock:

If tomorrow Valve does decide to release Half Life 3 then what?????
The people who want it will buy it and those who dont will carry on with their daily life.....As simple as that :wink:


P.S: Could u plzzz tell me what was the point exactly of this thread????
Also Are u gonna start a new thread on "What if tomorrrow ID Decides to Release Doom 4????"

No hard feelings bro :)
S
sunnydiv #3
Mar 20, 2005 at 11:52 AM
yeh weak, while you are at it, why dont u imagine billy boy buys out ID and valve
and half life 3 and doom4 are the same thing

half doom 3/4
I
Mar 20, 2005 at 11:57 AM
OMG! If they release it tomm there would be a mad mob and a huge stampede and millions of people would die....what crap!

thats what I think of this thread too... Whats the point of it.....sheesh.
enoonmai
Mar 20, 2005 at 12:14 PM
@Rohan: What would happen if HL3 were to hit markets tomorrow? I will go buy it! :D Well, as allwyndlima said, those that buy it will do so, and those that wont - wont. As simple as that. Plus, either you're with Valve or VUG or Milestone Interactive, or you are going to sponsor a copy for all of us here, I dont know which. :D So you see, there's not much of a point to this.

@Everyone: Well, no point in locking/deleting this thread, so what we might very well do is to turn it into a HL3 speculation thread and use it for a genuinely good purpose. Wotsay? I'll start.

First off, when do you think HL3 will even be announced "officially"? I mean, come on, its not like Valve has any other game in its repertoire, and its not that much of a secret that they dont have anything else to work on except HL3, considering how HL2 had a cliffhanger ending. Would it hurt so much to say that they are indeed working on HL3, but cant give out approximate release dates?

Plus, I dont know if Valve is currently working on anything else except the ATI levels, although I hope for God' sakes that the stories in the single-player episodic contents does not "augment" the HL storyline, because if it did, then millions are gonna get cheated out of understanding the real story, just like how people were cheated out of the real story of the Matrix trilogy because they couldn't see The Animatrix or play Enter The Matrix. Not everyone can afford to jump to an X800 just to get the ATI levels.

Next up, the story itself. Well, HL2 had a mother of a cliifhanger ending that left me going "Wha? Who? Whatthe...? AARGH!" No boss monster, not one. I was expecting to at least go head to head with the Combine Advisor. I wonder if he turns out to be a monster in HL3, apart from the weird things you see while you're moving up the Combine Citadel in "Our Benefactors" Also having said, one of the Vortigaunt's comments are interesting:

"For once the lesser master lay defeated. We knew that the greater must also fall in time."

Its obvious that the Combine were enslaving the Xen races with the effect of the chains and shackles on the Vortigaunts and on Nihilanth (the lesser master, who was also bound to Combine slavery) So, where would the events of HL3 unfold? On Earth? Well, the Combine grip on the planet has been broken and there will just be random civil wars breaking out here and there among the Cities. So does that mean Gordon Freeman would travel to the Combine homeworld to deal with the threat directly? Or would he waste time on Earth helping the rebels and travelling from City to City looking for a teleporter that would transport him to the Combine home planet, now that he destroyed the Dark Energy portal in HL2. What happens to Dog, Dr. Issac Kleiner, Dr. Eli Vance, Dr. Judith Mossman, Barney Calhoun, Col. Odessa Cabbage and most importantly, Alyx Vance? Ideas, anyone?
Ethan_Hunt
Mar 20, 2005 at 12:39 PM
Now shall i continue....let me make this one on a shorter note....well just the thought of Hl3 brings me memories of HL3 and Doom 4 War again.....but this time round i just hope that Hl3 Becomes much more realistic and hell same low Compatiblity requirements as before (well sorta like asking for a Family pack Ice Cream in a Candy Bar Box pack :lol:).....ok so the storyline now...err well this is the tricky but the best part for Valve and dosent need to be discussed on much as these guys know what they design and hoping this time round too it turns up in an Excellent way :wink:

Oh the Ati levels that Valve is currently working on.....Hope they have a plan to provide some free X800's for those poor souls who crave for testing these levels :lol: :lol:
ctrl_alt_del
Mar 20, 2005 at 12:56 PM
I wonder how long the exclusive ATi levels would remain exclusive. And if the levels give away some part of the story, Valve will be bound to release them to the general gaming public, albeit, without the bells and whistles. Considering how closely Valve prefers to work with its fan base, I dont think Valve will be making a smart descison by antagonizing the same fan following.

Even if Valve decided not to release the ATi levels to people other then high-end card owners, wont it possible for the modders to rip out the high-definition content and replace them with general HL2 textures and content that would enable the levels to run on the. say, FX 5200? Hell, if the "Scene" could rip out the Steam shit, then they could bloody well do this also.

About HL3, it's hard to speculate. What I am wondering is that whether we will see HL3 first or HL2 expansion packs in the lines of OF or Blue Shift? It's very possible that Valve may take this approach to further the story without having to give away the whole plot that will be the base of HL3, at the same time, gathering some more millions.
enoonmai
Mar 20, 2005 at 1:23 PM
I would personally welcome something along the lines of BS and OF, but what would we have for HL2, except a take on BS with Barney's version of the events of HL2 or an Alyx's version of the events. In either case, I am sure they wont be as interesting. What made OF and BS so endearing was that they were tied into the main storyline without any interaction at all between the stories, so while the main storyline remained the same, the storylines/plots for the individual games remained nowhere near the same, which as you would have realized, is impossible to pull off in HL2 because of the level of interaction between the characters.

And technically, according to your logic, shouldn't we have seen a modder's take on HL:S with the Source engine, the hi-res textures and the Source models for the players out already or at least be in development? If the modders rip out the high definition content and then allow it to run on other cards, then Valve will stop working with those modders and they would literally end up being shunned by the community, like how the DNF mod was pulled. You remember that, dont you? :D

However, like we agree, if they resort to let the ATI levels "augment" the story, then there would be a hue and cry like nothing we have ever seen and Valve will literally lose face. Considering the fact that the Hardware Survey updated as of January 17, 2005 shows less than 1.5% of the total number of users playing on an X800. :D
ctrl_alt_del
Mar 20, 2005 at 1:30 PM
Actually I was thinking more on the line of the modders who were working on the "scene". These guys won't give a heck about what Valve thinks. The only thing they will be looking forward to is to rip the game and release it ASAP. I wont be surprised if I see the ATi levels on p2p networks, courtsey, Hoodlum or DEViANCE or Razor911.
enoonmai
enoonmai #10
Mar 20, 2005 at 1:38 PM
Well, guys like Deviance, etc. are just crackers/rippers, so while they might be able to get the content out of the Steam security and distribute it via P2P, you can bet that it will still require an X800 to run. :lol: Thats because these guys aren't graphic designers/texture artists, programmers, etc. and they wont have the knowledge to recreate a lower quality version of the ATI levels that would run on other cards. And even if they did, they dont have the time to dedicate to such a task, because of the sheer number of warez they deal with. When the ATI levels are out, it will take a modding community some time to rip the content, revamp it to accommodate lower quality video cards (like the DX8.1 water reflection patch) etc. And only a true, serious modder would do that. Of course, you can imagine what Valve would do to that modder when he/she releases it on the public via normal delivery methods instead of via Steam. :D
vysakh
vysakh #11
Mar 20, 2005 at 2:20 PM
HL3 released yesterday ;)
techno_funky
Mar 20, 2005 at 2:25 PM
hmmm would go down to the market
buy the game
install it
ENJOY!!!!
G
Mar 20, 2005 at 4:08 PM
techno_funky said:
hmmm would go down to the market
buy the game
install it
ENJOY!!!!
Techno, you forgot - connect, and wait till their 'authentication' gets the better of you. Unless, ofcourse, you have a T1 connection @ home.
Well if HL3 releases, then ValVe will realise that Steam sucks, that online distribution of games is pathetic and that the consumer must be given a hard copy of whatever he buys. Purchasing a game is not like making a purchase in an MMORPG game with digital currency.
Wish they'd all respect consumers and stop being paranoid about their creation, which any casual pirate wouldn't care to pirate.
enoonmai
enoonmai #14
Mar 20, 2005 at 4:17 PM
OMFG! You guys should check out the HL2: Substance mod. I just got a look at the mod here:
*halflife2.filefront.com/file/HalfLife_2_Substance_V084_Mod_Full_Install;38330

Here's more info:

Description:
HL²:SUBSTANCE re-choreographs the original single player campaign, John Woo style: intensive new action and higher challenges makes it the best choice for HL2 veterans who found the "vanilla" version either too short or easy. Squad tactics and accuracy are actually required now: see what the G-Man meant by "a battle you have no chance of winning" (because you didn't submit, then, right?)! A whole new set of weaponry is also available as well as an advanced friendly-fire system,a skinpack and a sound addon to further personalize your second visit to City 17. Welcome to the real Substance, what the action is made of!

New features:

- 71 edited levels: the whole HL2 game! Older levels have been revisited for more challenge and performance.

- New weapons and alternate firemodes by Jerry,author of the SP Enhanced Mod: now include the SG550 Sniper Rifle, Battle Gravity gun, Conversion Bugbait, Napalm launcher, Covenant grenades, Desert Eagle, Electric Crossbow, Dual function RPG, Halo Pistol, M3 auto shotgun, M249 Jackhammer, Napalm clusters, FN P90 rifle, Proximity Headcrabs, Snarks, XM-8 Assault Carbine, RPG-armed airboats and more! Press the "Reload" button to switch between alternate firemodes.

- Friendly Fire Mod v.02 by Adam Hines: allies now suffer injuries from your hits and even turn against you! Don't miss the new Bullet time!

I just added this to my download manager queue.
tarey_g
tarey_g #15
Mar 20, 2005 at 4:20 PM
gamefreak14 said:
techno_funky said:
hmmm would go down to the market
buy the game
install it
ENJOY!!!!
Techno, you forgot - connect, and wait till their 'authentication' gets the better of you. Unless, ofcourse, you have a T1 connection @ home.
Well if HL3 releases, then ValVe will realise that Steam sucks, that online distribution of games is pathetic and that the consumer must be given a hard copy of whatever he buys. .

i dont think techno is bit worried abt the authantication part , no one is ....

reason????? well everyone knows that. :D
enoonmai
enoonmai #16
Mar 20, 2005 at 4:59 PM
Hmmm, I was thinking all about HL2 again this afternoon, and have added a bit more info as to what I'd like to see in HL3:

-Obviously a clearer, cogent end to the story
-If the game is gonna alternate between Earth and the Combine homeworld, then I'd like to see more variety in the locations, like an Arctic/tropical setting.
-I want to see rain in this game, please! That would make it so realistic.
-The ability to steal Combine vehicles, like their armored trucks or their flying thingies.
-The ability to use radios, as in OF to communicate with the rebels and to maybe call in an airstrike. :D
-I wanna be able to steal and use the EMP mines that the Combine use against me. Imagine you set up a trap with them and while a Combine truck full of them comes along, BOOMTOWN! :D
-I want this game to be thrice as big as HL, as Valve originally promised for HL2.
-I wanna see more powerful enemies, people armed with their OWN GGs or being strong enough to hurl extremely large objects at me, considering I have the super-charged GG along with me when the G-Man takes me away from the top of the Combine Citadel.
-I wanna see more character interactions, maybe even a major character dying, like Eli Vance, etc. :D -Of course, I want Lamarr to serve some good use, like Gollum at the end of LOTR or something like that. :D
-I wanna see Cpl. Adrian Shepard. Why didn't I see him in HL2? Didn't the GMan "reserve him for later" too? (Expansion, maybe?)
-I read this somewhere and liked it insanely. A gun with a flare launcher, so you can light a propane tank or you can shoot it at a zombie so that it goes screaming "My God! Why me?" and walks straight into a gas cloud. :lol:

Man, I can think up so many more stuff. Wonder how many of these would actually make it in. Also, I found something funny while surfing, hope this might make you laugh as much it made me. :D
*www.deviantart.com/view/13454917/
ctrl_alt_del
Mar 20, 2005 at 5:01 PM
Finally a good mod for HL2. Now, bullet-time would be intresting, especially with that sort of physics engine. Try it out Prof and tell us whats it like, the weapons in special.
rohan
rohan #18
Mar 20, 2005 at 7:22 PM
sunnydiv said:
yeh weak, while you are at it, why dont u imagine billy boy buys out ID and valve
and half life 3 and doom4 are the same thing

half doom 3/4

Or imagining you talk a bit freely? It's stranger actually! Change your philosophy...
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[lokesh] #19
Mar 20, 2005 at 7:51 PM
Oh wow...a thread on HL3...i was searching all the time...great...

So guys do you think HL3 will be unveiled at E3 which is coming up this May ??
enoonmai
enoonmai #20
Mar 20, 2005 at 9:54 PM
HL3 at E3 this year in May? Hmm, that's pretty doubtful. Maybe they might just announce that they are working on HL3, but there might not be anything in the way of a tech demo, because Source probably isn't that modified enough to warrant a showcase at the E3. What would most probably happen is that Valve would confirm HL3 independently of E3 sometime later this year, and probably next year at E3, they would showcase the modified Source engine along with a tech demo of HL3, followed by a release in early to mid 2007. That is how I guess the roadmap of HL3 would be.
enoonmai
enoonmai #21
Mar 20, 2005 at 10:24 PM
@sunnydiv: What the.....? :x What was that, man? No reply, nothing. What the heck was that post for? :x
techno_funky
Mar 21, 2005 at 12:08 AM
tarey_g said:
gamefreak14 said:
techno_funky said:
hmmm would go down to the market
buy the game
install it
ENJOY!!!!
Techno, you forgot - connect, and wait till their 'authentication' gets the better of you. Unless, ofcourse, you have a T1 connection @ home.
Well if HL3 releases, then ValVe will realise that Steam sucks, that online distribution of games is pathetic and that the consumer must be given a hard copy of whatever he buys. .

i dont think techno is bit worried abt the authantication part , no one is ....

reason????? well everyone knows that. :D

LOL!!! do i need to say anything more!!!! :p
but surely will "BUY" "HALF LIFE 2" once a i get a decent system
:)
rachitboom2
Mar 21, 2005 at 12:18 PM
Well I guess again the whole world will have to swich over to 6600's and 6800's just to play those games
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icecoolz #24
Mar 21, 2005 at 2:39 PM
no...more like X600 and X800 from ATi t play those :p Remem ATi and Valve are partners. And seeing how long they took to release HL2 I am not holding my breath for HL3. All those thinking of E3 and HL3 somehow knowing Valves quest for near perfection for thier games I dont think this will happen any time soon.
I
Mar 21, 2005 at 2:56 PM
Lets keep it simple:
Consider the situation:
You enjoy HL
You like playin it
You wanna play the latest version of the game
Conclusion:
Go buy the game (if itz there) (& if u have the cash)
AND................
ENJOY!
rachitboom2
Mar 21, 2005 at 2:57 PM
icecoolz said:
no...more like X600 and X800 from ATi t play those :p Remem ATi and Valve are partners. And seeing how long they took to release HL2 I am not holding my breath for HL3. All those thinking of E3 and HL3 somehow knowing Valves quest for near perfection for thier games I dont think this will happen any time soon.
Well said icecoolz, I just forgot that ATi and Valve are partners.
I correct myself =>
"Well I guess again the whole world will have to swich over to X600 and X800 from ATi just to play those games."
rohan
rohan #27
Mar 21, 2005 at 3:40 PM
What would you require to play HL3? May be a computer equivalent to a super-computer or a semi-super-computer???
enoonmai
enoonmai #28
Mar 21, 2005 at 3:50 PM
HL3 will most probably run on the same Source engine as HL2, and all that will be done is probably a few tweaks and modifications, and it should pretty much remain more or less than HL2 itself. I would guess something along the lines of:
Pentium 4 2.4Ghz
512MB RAM
128MB video card with DXNext support
5.1 channel audio / EAX
for the minimum system requirements and something along:
Pentium 4 3 GHz / AMD FX-53
1GB RAM
256MB video card with DXNext support
7.1 channel audio
for its recommended system requirements. No supercomputers, just a bit up from the HL2 requirements projected to the year 2007.
N
Nemesis #29
Mar 21, 2005 at 10:48 PM
ppl...remember Valve took 6 years to release HL2...dont expect HL3 until 2010....they take a looooooooooooonnnnnnng time 2 release their games....although they do make masterpieces once they release em....

@enoonmai: i think u have given a very conservative estimate...:lol: seeing where the hardware industry is going, if HL2 is out by arnd 2010, it will need much more computing horsepower....of ocurse if they manage 2 get it out by 2007, then ur sys reqs listed r more or less what i expect....
enoonmai
enoonmai #30
Mar 21, 2005 at 10:55 PM
Nah, man, Valve took that much time to develop the majority of the Source engine, and by the looks of it, HL3 will most probably run on Source with a few minor modifications. So that drastically cuts the engine development cycle and pushes the game development forward. All they gotta do is tweak the engine, create the models/textures, scripts and then tie them all together with a storyline, test it a few times and then go gold. So, dont worry, it wont take more than 2-3 years at the most. My guess is that we will be seeing Half-Life 3 videos at E3 next year and will have the game out in early to mid-2007, probably coinciding at or around the RtCW2 launch. Who knows, Newell and Lombardi may just pull their socks up and release it to time with the Quake 4 launch, although I dont suppose they would be doing that. So, you see, the hardware estimate was for 2007, not 2010. :D Plus, being optimistic never hurt anyone. I am judging my logic based on the time its taking Q4 to come out after Doom 3, since its based on the same engine with a few tweaks. :D
rohan
rohan #31
Mar 21, 2005 at 11:21 PM
enoonmai said:
HL3 will most probably run on the same Source engine as HL2, and all that will be done is probably a few tweaks and modifications, and it should pretty much remain more or less than HL2 itself. I would guess something along the lines of:
Pentium 4 2.4Ghz
512MB RAM
128MB video card with DXNext support
5.1 channel audio / EAX
for the minimum system requirements and something along:
Pentium 4 3 GHz / AMD FX-53
1GB RAM
256MB video card with DXNext support
7.1 channel audio
for its recommended system requirements. No supercomputers, just a bit up from the HL2 requirements projected to the year 2007.

A gaming engine has effect on system requiremements, but using the same gaming engine may not mean the same system requirements. There are thousands of parameters to be taken into consideration.

First of all, it depends upon the levels or the room, the details and complexity of it, the number of polygons in a model and the highly detail application of textures on those models.

Moreover, behind the scenes there millions of calculations going on depending on the number of total dimensions and statistics like health, armor, velocity, height and so on and to develop gameplay and make things realistic, *www.geocities.com/tritium_studios/valve.gif will have to add more of these which will further intensify calculations which will take a toll on the FPU, ALU and thus the clock rating and memory.
rohan
rohan #32
Mar 21, 2005 at 11:23 PM
enoonmai said:
HL3 will most probably run on the same Source engine as HL2, and all that will be done is probably a few tweaks and modifications, and it should pretty much remain more or less than HL2 itself. I would guess something along the lines of:
Pentium 4 2.4Ghz
512MB RAM
128MB video card with DXNext support
5.1 channel audio / EAX
for the minimum system requirements and something along:
Pentium 4 3 GHz / AMD FX-53
1GB RAM
256MB video card with DXNext support
7.1 channel audio
for its recommended system requirements. No supercomputers, just a bit up from the HL2 requirements projected to the year 2007.

A gaming engine has effect on system requiremements, but using the same gaming engine may not mean the same system requirements. There are thousands of parameters to be taken into consideration.

First of all, it depends upon the levels or the room, the details and complexity of it, the number of polygons in a model and the highly detail application of textures on those models.

Moreover, behind the scenes there millions of calculations going on depending on the number of total dimensions and statistics like health, armor, velocity, height and so on and to develop gameplay and make things realistic, *www.geocities.com/tritium_studios/valve.gif will have to add more of these which will further intensify calculations which will take a toll on the FPU, ALU and thus the clock rating and memory.
enoonmai
enoonmai #33
Mar 21, 2005 at 11:27 PM
Come on, man, we know our graphics stuff around here. :D No lessons needed, thank you very much! And no one said that its gonna be the same system requirements. Those were "approximate" requirements I made up for the year 2007. HL2 has a minimum system requirement of a 1.2GHz processor, 256MB RAM, DX7.0 graphics card and 2.4GHz processor, 512MB RAM, DX9.0 graphics card for Recommended Requirements. So setting a 2.4GHz CPU and 512MB of RAM as minimum for 2007 is hardly pushing it to the limits. After all, you dont suppose everyone will be pushing 4GHz+ processors, 4GB of RAM, 512MB video cards and 1TB hard drives in the next 2 years, do you? :D
rohan
rohan #34
Mar 22, 2005 at 7:58 AM
enoonmai said:
Come on, man, we know our graphics stuff around here. :D No lessons needed, thank you very much! And no one said that its gonna be the same system requirements. Those were "approximate" requirements I made up for the year 2007. HL2 has a minimum system requirement of a 1.2GHz processor, 256MB RAM, DX7.0 graphics card and 2.4GHz processor, 512MB RAM, DX9.0 graphics card for Recommended Requirements. So setting a 2.4GHz CPU and 512MB of RAM as minimum for 2007 is hardly pushing it to the limits. After all, you dont suppose everyone will be pushing 4GHz+ processors, 4GB of RAM, 512MB video cards and 1TB hard drives in the next 2 years, do you? :D

I wasn't replying to your 'approximate system requirements', I was replying to your 'same as HL2' comment. ::No bAd Feelings:: :D
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Nemesis #35
Mar 22, 2005 at 10:32 AM
hehe i would love it if they released HL3 in 2007....but i cant seem 2 imagine that they will release that early...also, methinks they will come up with some expansion packs 4 HL2 rather than release HL3 so soon...im sure they will wanna cash in on the success of HL2 like they did with HL (opposing force, blue shift, etc.)
any news on Q4 though???? some screenies were released but nothing substantial yet....i hope my system will run Q4 *prays*

BTW, Doom 3 RoE comes out April 4...i have it on pre-order :wink: i have high expectations frm that game...damn...i sidetracked.... :lol:
enoonmai
enoonmai #36
Mar 22, 2005 at 11:17 AM
@rohan: No hard feelings at all, mate. We're just discussing it here, its not like Valve is gonna go through this stuff or anything, right? :D They only listen to what we scream at Steampowered.com.

@Nemesis: D'Oh! Mmmm, RoE! Man, living in NY definitely has its advantages. :D But talking about expansion packs for HL2, the only thing I can think of is an expansion that features Col. Adrian Shepard cleaning up in Freeman's wake. You cant expansions with Barney or Alyx. They would just be too weird, plus the storylines would merge, so it would nearly be the same as HL2, unless of course, they do a pre-HL2 expansion with these characters tying in the stories of HL and HL2 together.
D
DKant #37
Mar 22, 2005 at 4:47 PM
...pre-HL2 expansion with these characters tying in the stories of HL and HL2 together.
That wld be nice. Particularly if it cld be bundled with pre-HL2 system requirements..:D lol.
N
Nemesis #38
Mar 23, 2005 at 1:27 AM
yea i would love them 2 somehow tie up HL and HL2...or mebbe an expansion pack that leads into HL3....i did not like the HL2 ending...so abrupt and wierd...i wanna have DOG with me if there is an expansion...he seems like such a gr8 sidekick :wink: better than any other :lol:

if they did do an expansion pack with Alyx, it could b like a parallel storyline...i guess it would b interesting though...
rohan
rohan #39
Mar 23, 2005 at 3:04 PM
How about :

Half Life 3 : Blue Shift 2

OR

Half Life 3 : Opposing Forces 2

Just like NFS6 : HP2
ctrl_alt_del
Mar 23, 2005 at 5:10 PM
What about an expansion pack with the game from the PoV of the Combine Soilders? Hell, if they wish, they can make a kiddies Half Life game too featuring Dog! Now that one would be intresting isin't it? :lol:
rohan
rohan #41
Mar 23, 2005 at 6:15 PM
I thought this was a thread that everybody would find stupid, but hey! this thread shows popular. Thanks for supporting HL3 and this thread!!!!!!!!

Well, here's what I have to say:-

Supposing HL3 is a game like DIABLO, there is a team which you control through mouse clicks and that's it, kill people who cause trouble to you, within the BLACK MESA...
enoonmai
enoonmai #42
Mar 23, 2005 at 10:44 PM
A HL2 expansion along the lines of Blueshift would be nearly impossible because of the amount of interaction Barney has with Freeman in the game. The first BS as well as OF was so good because even though they all had the same core storyline to follow, each of them were literally separate games in themselves. And thats what made them so enjoyable, because nothing was ever the same, except for the split second parts where you would see Gordon on a train or being dragged away to a trash compactor or making a leap into Xen.

But since the GMan saved Corp. Shepard for a reason, maybe they can come up with him in a pre-HL2 time where he sets up the first base with the Rebels in fighting the Combine. Imagine this, Corp. Shepard suddenly finds himself on a train, pretty much like Freeman. He steps out and everything's great, the Earth is not destoyed or anything. He goes around town, trying to get his bearings, when the sky clouds over and the Combine start pouring in from huge hovering motherships and The Seven Year War begins. That would be infinitely cooler than Adrian Shepard once again running in Freeman's wake, cleaning up after him. I think the Seven Year War would make for a great expansion rather than a HL2-parallel storyline with either Barney, Alyx or Dog.
N
Nemesis #43
Mar 23, 2005 at 11:44 PM
ahhh yesss that seems like a gr8 expansion pack @enoonmai...but DOG was fun :lol: what i did not like in HL2 was how gordon jus twakes up in a train and then ends also in a train...if they could fix any of those in an expansion, i think it would b a gr8 expansion pack...Corp. Shepard also sounds like loads of fun :wink:
rohan
rohan #44
Mar 24, 2005 at 3:06 PM
Or if HL3 is just another arcade game like HALF LIFE 3: TETRIS or HALF LIFE 3: PAC GORDON Just kiddin' for the sake of it...
ctrl_alt_del
Mar 24, 2005 at 3:49 PM
Speaking of HL arcade action, you can get it with "Codename Gordon" a 2-D side-scrolling game based on HL2. You even get to play with the gravity gun. Check it out, it's fun.
G
Mar 24, 2005 at 4:02 PM
Nemesis said:
ahhh yesss that seems like a gr8 expansion pack @enoonmai...but DOG was fun :lol: what i did not like in HL2 was how gordon jus twakes up in a train and then ends also in a train...if they could fix any of those in an expansion, i think it would b a gr8 expansion pack...Corp. Shepard also sounds like loads of fun :wink:
Yeah nemi, DOG was one helluva character. It was super fun to play around with that robot. Unofficial rumours point to you being able to play as DOG or something like that. I don't care about the story that much. It keeps wavering, and they're really pushing it to the limit. Seven years since HL and they still can't spill some of the beans....
rohan
rohan #47
Mar 25, 2005 at 7:30 AM
READ THIS ALL HL3 FANS

Check what GamersHell.com had to say on HL3, really cool stuff. NPC ALyx will be playable!! Here's the complete story:

GamesRadar is reporting that during a recent press briefing at Valve HQ, Gabe Newell revealed that they are planning to develop Half-Life 3 with Half-Life 2 female NPC Alyx as a playable character. Well, I guess we will see the first details at E3 2005, or, in the worst case, we will have to wait another 5 years and maybe another 30 September release date.

E3 2005 to go...!!!!
N
Nemesis #48
Mar 25, 2005 at 9:41 AM
hell yeah E3!!! man i actually wanted 2 go 2 E3 this year...but when i visited their website, i found that only the press r allowed...i was so excited...PS3...Xbox 2....Revolution....damn...

ahh ut well, let's hope we dont have 2 wait another 6 years...

@ctrl_alt_del: yea i have codename gordon...it's old school fun :lol:
suave_guy
suave_guy #49
Mar 25, 2005 at 3:14 PM
sorry for being bit off topic...but i've a query..

my pc specs are as follows:
AMD Athlon XP 1800+
256 MB DDR RAM(32 MB shared by onboard RAM)
MSI nforce mobo
geforce 2 mx gx card...

now can i play half life2 on my computer??

thx in advance....
enoonmai
enoonmai #50
Mar 25, 2005 at 3:55 PM
I definitely know one person who is playing it on a computer without even a video card being present, so I think you should be able to as well. Dont expect the fancy eyecandy, of course. But I dont think you need moi to tell you that. :) In any case, you would be better off installing the HL2 demo first and checking out the performance you get from it before purchasing the retail version.
G
Mar 25, 2005 at 4:16 PM
Minimum Spec:
Windows 2000/XP/Me/98
1.2 GHz Processor
256 MB RAM
DirectX 7 level graphics card
4.5 GB hard drive

I have your same specs except 512MB RAM, and a geforce FX 5200 128 DDR. All settings @ medium @ 35fps. DX 8.1 mode.
rohan
rohan #52
Apr 3, 2005 at 5:28 PM
Hey, where's the E3 being conducted this year, anyway? Did valvE give info on HL2 release at any E3...
Ethan_Hunt
Apr 3, 2005 at 6:21 PM
enoonmai said:
I definitely know one person who is playing it on a computer without even a video card being present.

*STANDS UP WITH HEAD HIGH*

That would definetly be me 8) :D Playin it on my Nforce 2 integrated chipset @35Fps At Normal Settings :p

@suave_guy....u can definetly play it with Geforce Fx5200 @ Normal setting not with eye candy of course.We both have the Same Mobo is guess but mine is a Asus one and urs seems to be an MSI one so cheers to that :D

@rohan....This year i suppose E3 is gonna set out in Los Angeles Convention center during May 17-20th.Btw VALVE's Plans on Hl2????? I thought it was already released :shock: :?
I guess thats a Typo there and may be u meant HL3,So Well dunno about Valve's plan yet for it :p
Darthvader
Apr 3, 2005 at 10:07 PM
sORRY FOR DRIFTING OFF TOPIC BUT HAS ANYONE SEEN THIS COOL HL2 TIMELINE

Year

Gordon's Sleep Cycle

Major Events
Details
1995


1.1. The Combine Invades Xen


- Combine Empire Invades Xen




-Black Mesa portal established with Xen




- Combine deal with Breen


The Combine Empire invades and takes control of Xen, eventually turning the entire planet into a slave race. The Combine uses its usual technique to destroy the Xenians. That is, they hybridize the dominant species of the planet (In Xen's case, the Vortigaunts) with their own technology to create a "Super soldier" that is adapted to Xen's environment and uses powerful Combine technology. This soldier can effectively take over the planet. The Combine also bribe a member of the victim species to act as the "leader" of the planet to encourage other members of the species to conform to Combine demands. In Xen's case, this leader is the Nihilanth (although it is unknown if Nihilanth is a Vortigaunt or not). It is interesting to note that unlike Breen, Nihilianth is forced into complying with the Combine. Perhaps Nihilanth was the leader of Xen before the Combine invaded Xen, and the Combine had to convert him by other means.

Back on Earth, Gordon is studying for his doctorate at MIT. At Black Mesa in New Mexico, teleportation experiments are taking place. Under the supervision of researchers Eli Vance and Dr.Kleiner, crystals are retrieved from Xen, and organisms are analyzed. Research is developing.

Back on Xen, the Combine have discovered Black Mesa's portal from Earth. They contact Wallace Breen (how they do this is not known at the time), the Administrator of Black Mesa. Promising him power and riches, the Combine persuades Breen to allow the Combine to bring Earth into its "Universal Union", convincing him that this is humanity's greatest opportunity to see the stars, and embrace the universe. Breen takes the bait, believing the Combine truly want to help humanity (and not enslave them, as they eventually do). The Combine prepares to take Earth.
2000

























Gordon is put into stasis


1.2. The Black Mesa Incident - Half Life 1





- Breen sets up satellite, prepares resonance cascade

-- (i) The Resonance Cascade



- Satellite launched




- Nihilanth defeated

- Black Mesa destroyed




- Gordon survives
- (ii) Gordon is Hired


They're waiting for you Gordon, in the test chamber.

(i) Breen Triggers the Resonance Cascade - Wallace Breen, under supervision by the Combine Overlords, triggers a resonance cascade within the Anomalous Materials sector of the Black Mesa complex, by selecting a specific test sample to be used. His selection of this hazardous material is masked by a system crash, which Breen most likely triggers to cut out formal communication between scientists. G-Man is aware of Breen's plan and tries to prevent the Resonance Cascade, but fails. This "volatile portal" allows the Combine to send their initial force, the Xen slaves, to take over Black Mesa and prepare for the main invasion. Of course headcrabs and other Xen wildlife decide to hitch a ride to Earth, for the fun of it. G-Man prepares a task force to deal with the main portal and prepares US soldiers to fight the aliens. Black Mesa becomes a messy situation, as many species and technologies clash.

One man in a HEV suit becomes of great interest to G-Man during the incident, however. Gordon Freeman, a newly assigned scientist in the Anomalous materials lab, shows exceptional skill in dealing with Xen footsoldiers and U.S. troops. G-Man's interest peaks as Freeman navigates through Xen, and defeats the Nihilanth, freeing the Xen slaves, striking a major blow against the Combine. G-Man is impressed.

But before this, Gordon does what he's best at, following instructions. He unknowingly helps the Combine campaign by launching a Lambda satellite into space. This mission-critical satellite is most likely what the Combine need to conduct the Portal storms by opening up portals world-wide.

Black Mesa is destroyed by nuclear detonation (noted in OF), but the Combine have what they need in place - an unstable portal to Earth and a satellite to conduct a portal storm with.

(ii) Gordon is Hired - At the end of Half-Life G-Man, impressed by your work, gives Gordon a choice between his death or working for the G-Man. Half-Life 2 assumes he chose life over death. After you choose to work for him G-Man puts you in a slow-time-warp (i.e., you are put into stasis) to call upon you when needed.
2002
Gordon not aging

1.3. The Portal Storms



- Storms begin




- Population shift to city





Black Mesa has a huge ripple effect on the rest of the world after the events of Half-Life 1, as the Combine open up portals world-wide, via its portal-network satellite. Aliens (from Xen) of all types are teleported into suburbs. Headcrabs crawl along the aisles of grocery stores while others teleport into swimming pools and homes. Utter chaos erupts on Earth. The freed Vortigaunts flee to Earth to escape the Combine, which are struggling to regain control of them.

A huge population shift occurs as people move into the cities, protected by soldiers and barbed wire fences, to escape the monsters. A feeling of safety comes over the people of Earth, as they can once again live normal lives within the confines of the cities, as the aliens continue to infest the outside world.

Meanwhile, the Combine prepare for an assault on Earth, assured that the required portals are in place. Now that the Xenians have fled to Earth, the Combine can forget about Xen and enslave both Mankind and the Xenians in one fell swoop, on Earth.
2004
Gordon not aging

1.4. The Combine Invade Earth


Attack launched

- "Portal Storms continue"

- Combine come over
- 7 Hour War begins

- Overwatch soldiers created, citadels delivered




-7 Hour war Ends
- Breen made Administrator of Earth





- Population centres destroyed





- (iii) Cities renamed


Using the established Xen-Earth portal network as transport gateways, The Combine launches a multi-pronged, all-out assault on the entire Earth, teleporting troops as well as drop-ships, gun-ships, and striders from Combine off-world outposts. Once there, the Combine uses the same technique that they used on Xen on the humans, building a super-army out of the combination of the DNA of the most dominant species on Earth (the humans) and Combine technology.

The main Citadel is established in City 17. Other Citadels appear in other cities, seemingly out of thin air. These huge structures are home to Combine control centres. Combine armies are produced here as well as vehicles and armaments.

Also, while fighting each other, the humans and Combine also have the threat of the Xenians. The freed Vortigaunts ally with the rebel forces, wanting revenge against the Combine. The headcrabs, being headcrabs, just attack anyone they can find. Other monsters find their place assaulting both Man and Combine.

The next stage of the Combine's plan takes root. Wallace Breen, still optimistic about the Combine takeover, is made the Administrator of Earth, as promised back in Black Mesa by the Combine. Breen surrenders Earth to the Combine, explaining that the Combine are here for good, to immortalize humanity. Even though he sees the corpses of fellow humans, he believes that the loss of life is inevitable in the transition period, as Earth joins the Universal Union. Breen formally "surrenders" Earth after 7 hours of combat between Mankind and the Combine. Breen being a human helps the Combine, too. He is a species-specific leader (Like Nihilanth in Xen) - this helps propagate the lie that the enslavement of humans is a good thing, and humans, seeing a human in power, can be more readily fed world-changing events that are not in their interest.

Most of the major population centres of Earth are destroyed. People move into the country, spreading out to avoid Combine capture. Small pockets of rebel fighters surface, but have to establish bases in un-safe areas in the country, where the Xen wildlife have manifested themselves, finding niches in Earth's ecosystem. Still under the spell of the Combine, and ignoring the massive genocide, Breen views the building rebel force as a group of short-sighted troublemakers.

(iii) Cities renamed. The remaining populated areas are named City 1, City 2... City 17, City 27, etc and are placed under control of the Combine, who are establishing a huge presence on Earth. The United Nations in New York City is taken over and destroyed. [ screenshot, from Eli's lab ]
2004
Gordon not aging

1.5. Rise of the Combine Overwatch


- Control of media takes place







- Nova Prospekt established as "storage and experiment area"



- (iv) Civil Protection established









- Transitional Tasks


Wallace Breen takes residence in the top floor of the City 17 Citadel, attempting to quell the rebels. Breen attempts to console humanity by permanently making a connection between himself and it. He does by controlling the media. Huge television screens are erected in city centers. Newspapers, television, and other forms of communication are censored and their content is controlled.

Breen's message is simple: That humanity should not attempt in any way to cause friction in the transition period as mankind integrates itself with the Combine. He believes in order to join this Universal Union, Man will have to sacrifice a lot, but he still believes that the ends justify the means. He truly believes that joining the Combine will be positive to humanity, and tries to convert the rest of it to his point of view. After The Portal Storms, the humans are in such disorder that they can and will believe something like this.

Ruling by fear, the Overwatch assure to continue to protect human city centres from the outside aliens, and thus fearful humans continue to live in the cities out of fear for their families and themselves. The Overwatch's brutal reign begins.

The Combine's purpose with Breen is also simple. His purpose now is to prepare Earth for the Combine. His job is to eliminate any resistance to the Combine. Using controlled raids and a "civil-protection" force, Breen captures and converts any resistance to stalkers [for definition, see Expanded Info section], human slaves. Additionally, the Overwatch attempt to re-enslave the Vortigaunts, with some success. The Combine's ultimate purpose is to convert all of humanity into stalkers, and all of the vortigaunts into the slaves they were before Gordon freed them.More important minds are taken to Nova Prospekt, where they are stored in containment and experimented on - the Combine want to get as much knowledge out of humanity as they can before they destroy it.

The Combine Overlord orders some transitional tasks, above and beyond Breen's power. First of all, the Overwatch enact a Suppression Field to prevent humans from procreating. (the details of this aren't completely concrete) They do this so no new humans can be born, and that the humans left on Earth will be the final generation of them. They also put a biochemical in the water supply to make people gradually forget the past, and so they can more easily comply with Breen and the Combine - to forget why they hate them. Finally, the Combine begin to drain Earth's oceans. These tasks show that the Combine are are preparing Earth for new residents.

(iv) Combine Civil Protection Unit established - See Expanded Info (Section 2.1)
2010




Gordon wakes up


1.6. The Rebellion






- Gordon makes his return
- Lands blows all over City 17, and at Nova Prospekt

- Major Revolution begins

The Human Rebellion is Gordon's first official assignment, and his second assignment under the supervision of G-Man. G-Man pulls Gordon out of the slow-time warp for his assignment. Once Gordon is discovered, Wallace Breen makes his capture or death a top priority for Combine Overwatch officers.

Gordon continues to slip out of the Combine's grip and at Nova Prospekt, lands a huge blow against the Combine. This sparks a massive revolution among citizens, who begin a much larger rebellion than before. Chaos erupts in City 17 as Wallace Breen and the Combine Overwatch try frantically to end the spreading revolution, and the Citadel is put into full attack mode, with Combine soldiers flooding the streets. Vortigaunt refugees from Xen ally with the resistance, as they see the Combine as the greater threat. G-Man oversees Gordon's mission, assisting him where necessary.
2010

Gordon is put back into stasis


1.7. The Fall of the Combine Overwatch




- Citadel destroyed

[ End of Known History ]


At the end of HL2 you complete your assignment, by destroying your target, the Citadel in City 17, the Combine throne on Earth. It is unknown what becomes of the earth-based Combine, but most likely they are left leaderless - with the Citadel destroyed, the Overwatch has no instructions and back-up, and can be dealt with by the rebels. Once the remaining Combine soldiers are killed, the Combine presence on Earth will be depleted. Thus, Gordon's assignment has been completed, and he is put back into a slow-time-warp, awaiting his next assignment.

What does this mean for the Combine? Well, the Combine must either re-take Earth by re-taking City 17's Citadel through the Xen portals, and re-establish leadership and structure, or give up trying to fight Earth. I believe that they will continue to try to take Earth for themselves, a political move that will show other planets and systems that they are truly invincible. One thing is for sure: the Combine are not extinct. They have many more troops on multiple dimensions and planets; their empire is still expanding, ruthlessly invading planets/dimensions like Earth and Xen.

What did Gordon accomplish? He ended the rule of the Combine on Earth (for the time being), and struck his second serious blow against the Combine, showing them that both humans have strength to fight a mighty empire and that the Combine are not all-powerful. Humanity once again is free for the time being.

Why did G-Man give Gordon this assignment? Good question. The way things are going, I believe that G-Man is an agent of an interstellar rebel alliance (assuming a human form), seeking to try to break down the ruthless Combine empire, an empire which I believe existed far before the events of HL1. This rebel force has incredible technology to be able to control teleportation in the way G-Man does. Perhaps he realizes that Gordon Freeman is the only one who can defeat the Combine empire, and keeps him on call for this sort of thing. You have to remember, Gordon also freed a different race: the Xenians. So this is the second big blow Gordon's struck against the Combine. The funny thing is, he doesn't even realize it. I do not believe that G-Man is Gordon Freeman from the future.


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