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[HELP] confused with budget from 17k to 27k

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ritvij
ritvij Original post #1
May 15, 2012 at 9:52 AM
guys i have a bb curve 9300 and an iPhone 3gs 32 GB.. a friend of mine is offering me 9.5k for bb and 18k for iPhone.. shall i sell them? if yes, then i plan to purchase a new smartphone.
i am confused between the plethora of android devices. now i ain't an android fanboy, but the galaxy nexus caught my eye.. its retailing on ebay for 25-26k with sellers warranty.
also can i get an iPhone from us under 27k.. :p (i can unlock it as in my city a dealer sells gevey sim..)
how is the galaxy nexus? i love iOS devices but i don't get the point of buying them at ridiculous prices in india.
aroraanant
May 15, 2012 at 11:34 AM
Re: [HELP] confused with budget form 17k to 27k

The price you are getting for your phones are pretty good.
And the Nexus which is available on ebay is not with manufacturer warranty and I think there are better options available than that.
For under 17k One V is a very good option and even Neo V can be considered in that budget.You can even have a look at Sensation for 22k
But as you don't have any problem with the budget I suggest you to get Galaxy Note for ~29.5k or can increase your budget a lil more and can get the beast i.e. One X for 33-34k

And iphone 4S 16GB factory unlocked will cost you around 35k as Dollar is at its peak these days i.e. around 55Rs and iphone 4 16GB will cost you around 25-27k
ritvij
ritvij #3
May 21, 2012 at 4:29 PM
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will sensation see me through for the next 4 years? i know it sounds pretty far fetched.. but can i expect it to last for 3-4 years.. actually budget matters because my dad will only give 10k for a new phone.. rest i have to manage by selling the others off and the iphone belongs to my bro..:( stil i can spend max 26k
regarding note.. i detest its size..
nexus prime<< note??
m going for android only because of price! :(:(
aroraanant
May 21, 2012 at 5:19 PM
Re: [HELP] confused with budget form 17k to 27k

Sensation will be very good for 2-2.5yrs can't say how further it will work good as that depends on how you use and maintain it.
ritvij
ritvij #5
May 21, 2012 at 5:31 PM
Re: [HELP] confused with budget form 17k to 27k

i was thinking for sensation xe... i treat my phone nicely if that's what you mean!..:p:p
how will sensation xe fare against nexus prime?
coderunknown
May 21, 2012 at 6:45 PM
Re: [HELP] confused with budget form 17k to 27k

XE is old. but main problem with HTC is their battery. Sensation as a whole (build + performance) will make it till 2015. but the battery will go down in a year or so. The backup is already bad. Think what will happen after a year or so. If HTC sell extended battery then you can safely buy. This is the same problem i faced with my Motorola ROKR E6. now its a working mobile with dead battery :(
ritvij
ritvij #7
May 21, 2012 at 6:53 PM
Re: [HELP] confused with budget form 17k to 27k

htc does sell extra batteries.. i loved the design and feel of XE.. any other options?
aroraanant
May 21, 2012 at 10:36 PM
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XE is old. but main problem with HTC is their battery. Sensation as a whole (build + performance) will make it till 2015. but the battery will go down in a year or so. The backup is already bad. Think what will happen after a year or so. If HTC sell extended battery then you can safely buy. This is the same problem i faced with my Motorola ROKR E6. now its a working mobile with dead battery :(

SAM you own a E6, man I loved that phone(but its a story of long time back), I bought it around 5 years back but later was stolen around 1-1.5yrs and I really missed it. I never had issues with the battery while I using it but performance of every electronic gadget decreases with time and we all know that.
And every company do sell extra batteries bro.
And about battery issue of Sensation I would like to say
yes,there have been issues with battery but you can neglect that it has got a 4.3" screen and a dual core processor which consumes a lot of battery so that is the reason. But it lasts for around a day easily, and also remember one thing you can't get everything in everything.

i was thinking for sensation xe... i treat my phone nicely if that's what you mean!..:p:p
how will sensation xe fare against nexus prime?

XE is an amazing phone but it costs around 31k, in that budget its better you go for One X which costs around 33-34k which is the best phone in the market right now.
ritvij
ritvij #9
May 21, 2012 at 11:11 PM
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^^ i was getting xe for 28000 on ebay with manufacturer's warranty. one x is costing 32k.
coderunknown
May 21, 2012 at 11:28 PM
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SAM you own a E6, man I loved that phone(but its a story of long time back), I bought it around 5 years back but later was stolen around 1-1.5yrs and I really missed it. I never had issues with the battery while I using it but performance of every electronic gadget decreases with time and we all know that.

i used it as a modem a bit too much. killed the battery that way :oops:
it was my first smartphone and did everything inc testing custom rom, overclocking, etc. now battery is dead and screen is a bit too messed up and doesn't respond well. so can't use it.

^^ i was getting xe for 28000 on ebay with manufacturer's warranty. one x is costing 32k.

wait for S3 to be available. One X should get its price lowered further. But looking at the specs + features of One X, 32k is fair pricing but just wait. There should be a pricecut soon.
aroraanant
May 21, 2012 at 11:33 PM
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Considering that the difference in both the phones is 4k, I recommend you to get One X, it is much better than XE
ritvij
ritvij #12
May 21, 2012 at 11:40 PM
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hmm.. no chance of iPhone in this budget?? i can wait max till 10th june!

sorry guys but one x retailing for 36k with warranty.. 32k with seller's warranty! geting the xe ain't a bad option, right??
papul1993
papul1993 #13
May 21, 2012 at 11:43 PM
No removable battery and I think no microSD card slot in the One X. The screen and Sense is good though.
ritvij
ritvij #14
May 21, 2012 at 11:46 PM
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^^right about microSD dunno about battery!
papul1993
papul1993 #15
May 22, 2012 at 12:06 AM
No removable battery. That I am sure of.
aroraanant
May 22, 2012 at 1:25 AM
Re: [HELP] confused with budget form 17k to 27k

One X is an awesome device bro, get it.I am sure you won't regret.
Don't think of anything else other than that.
Rest its upto you now.
One don't need to expand the memory as it already has 32GB.
ritvij
ritvij #17
May 22, 2012 at 9:12 AM
Re: [HELP] confused with budget form 17k to 27k

i really want an iPhone.. does the one x have the iOS kinda apps?
one x is too costly..
shall i buy the iPhone 4?
i am homing in on the XE! .
what's the best price i can get for the one x?
aroraanant
May 22, 2012 at 3:55 PM
Re: [HELP] confused with budget form 17k to 27k

Listen there nothing which beats One X in the market, and its much better than XE.
You can get it around 33-34k easily.
iphone has got a small screen also as compared to One X.
And yes One X has better or can same kind of apps as iphone
ritvij
ritvij #19
May 22, 2012 at 5:08 PM
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guess i have to save up a few bucks then! what about its black market prices?
aroraanant
May 22, 2012 at 5:18 PM
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Black market!!!
I think you mean grey market....
Well I think it must be around 3-5k cheaper
ritvij
ritvij #21
Jun 8, 2012 at 12:09 PM
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guys i am getting a 3 month old 4s from my friend for 30k.. shall i shell out or buy one x.. is one xl coming to india anytime soon?
aroraanant
Jun 8, 2012 at 12:41 PM
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Does that iphone has Indian warranty?
And I hope the one you are getting is 16GB model.
4S is a great phone.
But if the warranty is not there then get the One X
randomuser111
Jun 8, 2012 at 1:03 PM
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HTC One XL has been on sale in India since months. Not worth it IMO. Iphone 4s for 30k seems like a good deal :)
aroraanant
Jun 8, 2012 at 1:18 PM
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^^^^
He is talking about One XL, not Sensation XL. :p
ritvij
ritvij #25
Jun 8, 2012 at 5:07 PM
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Does that iphone has Indian warranty?
And I hope the one you are getting is 16GB model.
4S is a great phone.
But if the warranty is not there then get the One X

yep.. its a legal Indian purchase from the apple store in mumbai.. with bill.. its a 16gb..
i love the design of the one x.. but a major gripe no beats earphones...:evil:
the iphone ain't even used much.. its the same one my friend gave me for unlocking and i wrote a review of it too... its been shut for ages in its box..:lol:
migrating from iOS will miss game center, iCloud and the AppStore
randomuser111
Jun 8, 2012 at 5:25 PM
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^
Even with beats earphones, the sound quality of the Htc One X is inferior to Iphone 4s.

@aroraanant

Oops, sorry! :p I misread.
ritvij
ritvij #27
Jun 8, 2012 at 5:30 PM
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the real problem of buying the 4s is the iPhone 5.. will have to shell out again within a year!:(
A
Jun 8, 2012 at 5:56 PM
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the real problem of buying the 4s is the iPhone 5.. will have to shell out again within a year!:(

Why dont u wait for htc one S ??
only con is 16gb intact memory . If u can live with tht it is the best fone in dual core stable rt now.
randomuser111
Jun 8, 2012 at 6:37 PM
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^
Well that's how things go in technology world. There is always something better coming ;)
aroraanant
Jun 9, 2012 at 1:00 AM
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yep.. its a legal Indian purchase from the apple store in mumbai.. with bill.. its a 16gb..
i love the design of the one x.. but a major gripe no beats earphones...:evil:
the iphone ain't even used much.. its the same one my friend gave me for unlocking and i wrote a review of it too... its been shut for ages in its box..:lol:
migrating from iOS will miss game center, iCloud and the AppStore

Its is a locked phone????Don't tell me
If it is not used much and and considering that it is an Indian product, its a good deal for 30k, try if you can bargain a lil more but....he he he ;)
But as you own a ipod and iphone 3GS, I think you should migrate to something different so you should get One X and try something new.
And I thought it comes with beats earphones, are you sure bears earphones are not included in the box?
ritvij
ritvij #31
Jun 9, 2012 at 8:35 AM
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ohh.. sorry.. it ain't unlocking its activating.. it costed him 44500 bucks..
the 3gs belongs to my bro.. i loved the one x.. but also siri...
damn sure it doesn't come with beats earplugs!:(:(

4s has warranty till march 2013..:) i called up apple store in mumbai and they confirmed its purchase..
aroraanant
Jun 9, 2012 at 11:25 AM
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Even I just confirmed that the beats earphones are not included.Well thats sad.
Well now you only decide what you want.
And remember one thing, One X has got a big display, so the experience will be much better than 4S.
ritvij
ritvij #33
Jun 9, 2012 at 4:05 PM
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^^ if i sell the one x next year, :p any idea hoe much i would be able to fetch? will buy an iPhone 5 next year.. one x or sensation xe?? i hate sgs3's design!
aroraanant
Jun 9, 2012 at 4:22 PM
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Can't say anything right now but hopefully you will get around 15k.
Obviously get One X, its much better than XE
randomuser111
Jun 9, 2012 at 4:50 PM
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Sensation XS a strict No-No ! :p
ritvij
ritvij #36
Jun 9, 2012 at 5:14 PM
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^^^was watching a youtube vid of one x and the user was facing a lot of freezeups and hangups.. is it true???
aroraanant
Jun 9, 2012 at 5:17 PM
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^^^^
It may be because of some other reason.....
I don't think it should hang or lag....
ritvij
ritvij #38
Jun 9, 2012 at 5:19 PM
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read digit's reveiw.. they also found sense freezing up and crashing..:(
this has made me really confused!
randomuser111
Jun 9, 2012 at 5:51 PM
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^
It's got a multitasking bug too, wherein you cannot multitask the way you usually do on other Android phones (even much cheaper phones)
ritvij
ritvij #40
Jun 9, 2012 at 10:03 PM
Re: [HELP] confused with budget form 17k to 27k

^
It's got a multitasking bug too, wherein you cannot multitask the way you usually do on other Android phones (even much cheaper phones)

what do you recommend then?
aroraanant
Jun 10, 2012 at 12:02 AM
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I doubt, how can HTC do such a blunder.
ritvij
ritvij #42
Jun 10, 2012 at 10:52 AM
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that has what made me confused..:(
randomuser111
Jun 10, 2012 at 11:26 AM
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@aroraanant

If you doubt, go check out HTC One X forum on XDA :p. Your doubts shall be cleared

@ritvij

Galaxy S3 (You can get it for 35k)
Galaxy Note
Galaxy S2
Used Iphone 4s
Sony Xperia S
ritvij
ritvij #44
Jun 10, 2012 at 11:38 AM
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tried the s3 last night at a retailer.. loved the screen and the new lock mechanism... but looks god darn ugly...
note is too big for my liking..
will check out the s2 today.. ditto for xperia s
4s.. i love it.. just the screen is a tad smaller..
randomuser111
Jun 10, 2012 at 1:10 PM
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^
Sure ! Let us know what you decide on :)
ritvij
ritvij #46
Jun 10, 2012 at 1:32 PM
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sure...
aroraanant
Jun 10, 2012 at 2:18 PM
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If you found that S3 screen was amazing then what would you say for One X screen as One X screen is superior than S3.
Xperia S is also good.I think you can get it for around 28k after bargaining.
And as we know the next generation iphone will be there in a 2-3 months so 4S prices will decrease, and if you are comfortable with all the cons of iOS then get it.
sc3n3l0v3r
Jun 10, 2012 at 2:48 PM
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I would recommend you to get 4S .......
I am using iPhone 4 16GB Model for the past 8 Months , I never faced a single issue....

My brother is using Samsung Galaxy R & honestly speaking after using an iOS other OS phones sux......

as you have used iOS previously I would recommend to go 4S...... Android fones are a big waste.....horrible battery backup ...
masterkd
masterkd #49
Jun 11, 2012 at 11:38 AM
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Android fones are a big waste.....horrible battery backup ...

Really..then why I get good battery backup even with the gigantic screen with my Galaxy Note?? :cool:
ritvij
ritvij #50
Jun 11, 2012 at 12:20 PM
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I would recommend you to get 4S .......
I am using iPhone 4 16GB Model for the past 8 Months , I never faced a single issue....

My brother is using Samsung Galaxy R & honestly speaking after using an iOS other OS phones sux......

as you have used iOS previously I would recommend to go 4S...... Android fones are a big waste.....horrible battery backup ...

+1 buddy.. my 3gs has been in use since it was launched.. never had even to go the service center.. more than 3 years and still works like a charm...
but a bad news.. that guy backed off.. he aint selling it anymore....:(:(:(

now confused between one x and sgs3...:(
no retailer wants to open and show the phones.. dont have croma types in my city!!
any one x user here?
D
D3LeT3 #51
Jun 11, 2012 at 3:55 PM
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Why dont u wait for htc one S ??
only con is 16gb intact memory . If u can live with tht it is the best fone in dual core stable rt now.

The HTC One S that will be launched in India is the inferior version with the S3 processor overclocked to 1.7Ghz along with the Adreno 220 GPU instead of the advanced and more power efficient Krait S4 processor with Adreno 225 GPU. The processor is the same as on the Sensation XE and has been overclocked by 200 MHz.The Sensation already has pathetic battery life. In the One S: Overclocking + Fixed battery translates to pathetic expected battery life and definite heating.
Not to mention that the main reason to buy an Android , rooting and installing a custom ROM will be difficult to do considering the rest of the world will be on different hardware as compared to South East Asia. This will severely limit the number of ROMs that will be available to interested 'rooters'.
HTC say that this hardware change is due to shortage in S4 processors and just like in 2010 they launched LCD versions of devices and priced them at international prices they're taking the third world countries with their tactics.
They haven't even issued a statement advising people of the differences in hardware while selling them in their home turf, Taiwan.Their website just reads 1.7Ghz Dual Core processor. These tactics are very unbecoming of a trusted brand like HTC.
ritvij
ritvij #52
Jun 11, 2012 at 5:55 PM
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guys buying the one x.. my dad cancelled that.. he said buy a laptop in that price..:p:p
now it gets typical.. is sensation xe really bad?
randomuser111
Jun 11, 2012 at 6:05 PM
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^
Sensation XE isn't good. Samsung Galaxy S2 @26k or Sony Xperia S @27.5k are much better
ritvij
ritvij #54
Jun 11, 2012 at 6:08 PM
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xperia s.. a dealer quoted me 31k...:O:O
regarding s2.. i900 ain't availible anymore..:(
whats wrong with sensation xe?
randomuser111
Jun 11, 2012 at 6:13 PM
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^
Are you okay with buying online ? You can get Xperia S for 27.5k from buytheprice.

Sensation XE has poor performance, bad screen and average camera. Even phones like Sola have better screen than XE.

Also i9100 IS available.
ritvij
ritvij #56
Jun 11, 2012 at 6:16 PM
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i live in gorakhpur.. goods priced above 29k can't be shipped into my state without sales forms and all..:(:(
xe's reviews are good at cnet and trusted reviews...:/
randomuser111
Jun 11, 2012 at 6:20 PM
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^
Well you could go for it man but compared to Galaxy S2 and Xperia S, its just not a good phone. Very poor optimization on that phone and just 768mb RAM.
Also Xperia S is 27.5k @buytheprice. Just try ordering. Use coupon ICICI and pay with ICICI debit/credit/bank account.

Or else try Ngpay. Its 27900 there.
ritvij
ritvij #58
Jun 11, 2012 at 6:25 PM
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he gave final price.. 31k.. will try to find s2 i900 version here...:(
BTW, sensation's review:
HTC Sensation XE review: Verdict | from TechRadar's expert reviews of Mobile phones
randomuser111
Jun 11, 2012 at 6:27 PM
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^
Well buddy if you go around looking for a good deal I'm sure you can get the Xperia S for 28-29k even in Gorakhpur.
Sure :) Look for the i9100 as well.

And I have read that review, and I'm saying it again - you can buy it if you like it. But IMO its just a waste of money at that price.

EDIT: I read you wrote you are getting Sensation XE for 28k. Well both S2 and Xperia S are cheaper than that. Xperia S is 27600/27900. And Galaxy S2 is 25.5-26k
ritvij
ritvij #60
Jun 11, 2012 at 8:07 PM
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s2 i9100 is for 26.5k here.. no sensation xe available here.. :(
one x for 34500/-
randomuser111
Jun 11, 2012 at 8:13 PM
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Go for the s2 i9100. :)

Its much better than sensation XE.

Or else get Xperia S from Ngpay at 27900
T
techlover #62
Jun 11, 2012 at 8:47 PM
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You really want a phone?? I saw in one of your post that you said your dad cancelled HTC ONE X saying buy a laptop at that price...In my opinion too he is very correct ..you can have a excellent spec laptop at 35k
and and and u can get a good laptop at even 26-27k ..think about it that whether a mobile or a laptop will be more helpful to u ...
and then go for something :)

Good Luck :)
aroraanant
Jun 12, 2012 at 1:21 AM
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XE is a very good phone, don't listen to people who are saying it is not good, specially the beats earphones which come with it are amazing.It is far better than S2.And for 28k its a steal man as everywhere it is available for 31k+
And even Xperia S is a great phone.
S2 is inferior to both Xperia S and XE
But considering that One X is available at ngpay for 32.5k only, it is a very good deal and it is much-much better than XE and S2 and also Xperia S.
ritvij
ritvij #64
Jun 12, 2012 at 9:47 AM
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You really want a phone?? I saw in one of your post that you said your dad cancelled HTC ONE X saying buy a laptop at that price...In my opinion too he is very correct ..you can have a excellent spec laptop at 35k
and and and u can get a good laptop at even 26-27k ..think about it that whether a mobile or a laptop will be more helpful to u ...
and then go for something :)

Good Luck :)

yeah mate.. i was promised an iPhone on selection in a good institute.. but the guy bringing it from us got his trip cancelled... so my dad told me to find a phone under 25k.. i saw the one x and was ecstatic..:)
but now i am confused between s2, xe and one x.. but buying one x over 30k is a problem..
love the design and earphones of the xe..
s2 is a great phone but is aging...:(
randomuser111
Jun 12, 2012 at 10:42 AM
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^
Well seems like your heart is set on XE. Nobody can change your mind now :p. Get the XE then

@aroraanant

Have you seen the benchmark scores for the XE ? Seen its screen ? Mean no offense but there is no way the XE is better than Galaxy S2.

The screen is much worse than S2
768MB Ram vs 1GB ram
SoC is poorly optimized and thus performance is just average, even new 22k phones offer better performance.





And the beats audio is nothing but a gimmick. Audiophiles would laugh at anyone saying the beats earphones sound good. They are nothing special and in fact the earphones bundled with the Xperia P are better than the "beats" earphones.

The camera is poor. 8 megapixels but performance is similar to what you find in 15-18k 2012 phones with 5 mp.

And on top of these, the various software issues and bugs.
ritvij
ritvij #66
Jun 12, 2012 at 11:01 AM
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your source for these points??
if m shelling out 30k i want the best.. my heart ain't set on xe.. its set on one x..:p
randomuser111
Jun 12, 2012 at 12:20 PM
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your source for these points??
if m shelling out 30k i want the best.. my heart ain't set on xe.. its set on one x..:p

Source for 768mb RAM ? - Check HTC India specs page

Source for bad camera ? Check HERE

Source for screen is s**t ? Ok here compared to a decent 15k low-mid range Xperia U. Check out who has the better screen :mrgreen:
*i46.tinypic.com/11gtv2w.jpg

GSMArena display review - The Sensation XE comes with a familiar 4.3” Gorilla glass protected S-LCD screen. It's the same unit we met in the first Sensation. Not the best display we've seen, with middling outdoor performance and disappointing viewing angles. Blacks are not as deep as AMOLED screens go, but brightness and color rendering are good.
Our traditional display brightness and contrast test confirm our observations. Deep blacks are not the Sensation XE's strength and while the brightness levels are OK, the contrast ratios aren’t that impressive.

Also PPI is only 256 ! Average for 2012.

Source for poor performance ? Check THIS It scores lower than a 1.2 ghz dual core sensation even though it has a 1.5 ghz dual core chip :|
Heck the same 15k Xperia U beats the hell out of the Sensation XE in all benchmarks LMAO!

For the rest you can use google :wink:

And its a joke to even provide a source to prove that beats is crap :lol:

You can get much better sounding earphones than beats for 1.5k dude ! And the beats software on the phone is just a bass boost nothing more. And apparently the newer batches don't come with the beats earphones anyway
aroraanant
Jun 12, 2012 at 8:10 PM
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@aroraanant
Have you seen the benchmark scores for the XE ? Seen its screen ? Mean no offense but there is no way the XE is better than Galaxy S2.

The screen is much worse than S2
768MB Ram vs 1GB ram
SoC is poorly optimized and thus performance is just average, even new 22k phones offer better performance.

And the beats audio is nothing but a gimmick. Audiophiles would laugh at anyone saying the beats earphones sound good. They are nothing special and in fact the earphones bundled with the Xperia P are better than the "beats" earphones.

The camera is poor. 8 megapixels but performance is similar to what you find in 15-18k 2012 phones with 5 mp.

And on top of these, the various software issues and bugs.

Well I don't go on benchmarks, and the screen is not bad at all.
The camera is also good, not bad at all.
And the beats earphones are pretty good, have you tried it? I guess no.
You can find earphones like them even for 1.5k to 2k.
And there are also not that much issues that will bother anyone.
For more I think you should get hands on the device.
randomuser111
Jun 12, 2012 at 8:25 PM
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Well of course its the decision of the OP at the end of the day. Whether he wants to blow 28k on something that can't even compete with a 15k phone.

@aroraanant

Have YOU tried the beats earphones ? I certainly have !.If you have, then I suggest you listen to the earphones bundled with Xperia P and compare both. And FYI the latest batch of Sensation XE don't come with beats earphones bundled.
And benchmarks don't mean anything ? They certainly do. The Xperia S has the same Cpu that Sensation XE has with 0 difference and yet the Xperia S scores way higher than Sensation XE on every benchmark with HD resolution compared to qHD of the Sensation XE.

4500 on Antutu vs 6500 is a HUGE difference.
So is 2200 on Quadrant vs 3200 on Quadrant.

When the Xperia S can score much higher than 15k Xperia U, and the XE can't with the very same CPU it only shows how badly optimized the phone is.
aroraanant
Jun 12, 2012 at 9:04 PM
Re: [HELP] confused with budget form 17k to 27k

Oh I forgot that the new XE doesn't comes with the beats earphones,thanks for reminding me. So then I should say its really sad.
I didn't say the benchmarks don't mean anything, I said that I don't go on benchmarks, I personally use the phone and compare it with other phones and then decide.
And if someone is into rooting then XE will perform very good.
And also look wise Sensation XE is very good.
Xperia S quite a new phone and its the best phone by Sony right now, I know Xperia S is better than XE.
And I guess you have tried some OEM/fake beats earphones that is the reason you are saying so, because they are pretty good.
randomuser111
Jun 12, 2012 at 9:09 PM
Re: [HELP] confused with budget form 17k to 27k

There is nothing NEW about the Xperia S SoC, its the same chipset as sensation XE. So you can't say its better because its new. That argument doesn't hold true. Also the AT&T Galaxy S2 also launched around the same time as the Sensation XE and also has same chipset as XE, performs almost as good as Xperia S. How ???

I thinks its in fact older than Sensation XE. Yup it came out in June 2011 !!

Also I didn't try no fake beats :) As I said, if you get a chance try the earphones bundled with Xperia P and compare them with the "super duper fantastic" beats earphones.
red dragon
Jun 12, 2012 at 11:02 PM
Super duper fantastic..Beats earphone!!
Get your ears checked ASAP buddy,Beats earphones are crappier even compared to 100Rs Intex headphones.
Yes!They are that bad!!And yes I have heard the original ones(in fact 3/4 of them)and all of them sucked.
randomuser111
Jun 12, 2012 at 11:14 PM
+1 @ reddragon's post
Anyway where is OP gone?
ritvij
ritvij #74
Jun 13, 2012 at 12:22 PM
Re: [HELP] confused with budget form 17k to 27k

Sorry guys m in Delhi currently. So no net for two days. I am getting a attest deal on a brand new iPhone 4s. 39k. Shall I splurge????
randomuser111
Jun 13, 2012 at 12:31 PM
Re: [HELP] confused with budget form 17k to 27k

39k sound good :)
But do you really wanna spend that much on the 4s when the Iphone4 is just around the corner ?
ritvij
ritvij #76
Jun 13, 2012 at 12:42 PM
Re: [HELP] confused with budget form 17k to 27k

Yeah.... That was my confusion. But my dad is happy in 39k. Any way to check wether ye set I am getting is valid Indian purchase or not
randomuser111
Jun 13, 2012 at 12:50 PM
Re: [HELP] confused with budget form 17k to 27k

I dunno really. Maybe call up Apple customer care ?

Also are you sure you wanna spend 39k on Iphone 4s now when after the Iphone5 launch the prices for the 4S would fall significantly. Only 3 months to go.
ritvij
ritvij #78
Jun 13, 2012 at 1:18 PM
Re: [HELP] confused with budget form 17k to 27k

Ummmmmmm... No more idea.. Will iPhone 5 launch in india in three months??
randomuser111
Jun 13, 2012 at 1:23 PM
Re: [HELP] confused with budget form 17k to 27k

Well if not 3, should be in 4 or max 5 months. But anyway the value of your phone would go down considerably once Iphone 5 launches. :)

I mean 39k is a LOT of money! If I were you, I wouldn't pay that much for a phone that will become outdated in 3 months and be overshadowed by a new better phone.

I would either

1) Wait for Iphone 5 and buy that
2) Once Iphone 5 launches buy the IP4s @ a lower price
3) Buy a not so expensive Android for now and wait for IP5/ other H2 2012 flagships
aroraanant
Jun 13, 2012 at 1:32 PM
Re: [HELP] confused with budget form 17k to 27k

^^^^
BTW why your dad is saying no to One X???
And 39k is no big deal.
randomuser111
Jun 13, 2012 at 1:43 PM
Re: [HELP] confused with budget form 17k to 27k

Hehe I dunno why his dad said no to One X at 34k but I do know why his dad said yes to IP4s @39k :p
Cuz its Apple !!!

@aroraanant

39k is good deal yes but since Iphone5 is launching by september he would be better off waiting as then prices of Iphone 4s would go down and resale value would also be much less.
ritvij
ritvij #82
Jun 13, 2012 at 1:53 PM
Re: [HELP] confused with budget form 17k to 27k

^^ yeah coz it's apple. :p
My dad has also used my 3GS and is impressed by its simplicity yet perfectionist approach. I am comfortable with apples closed system policy... Shall I use my 3GS for the next 4 months?iphone 5, if rumours have it will be priced nearly 55k..:p
randomuser111
Jun 13, 2012 at 2:00 PM
Re: [HELP] confused with budget form 17k to 27k

Well in that case go for the IP4s :) You can upgrade next year or maybe get IP6 :p
aroraanant
Jun 13, 2012 at 2:06 PM
Re: [HELP] confused with budget form 17k to 27k

Sorry I was pointing OP that time.
red dragon
Jun 13, 2012 at 2:09 PM
4s is a fantastic phone.
I had a gs2 for a year,bought a gs3 a week back...got disgusted with it in 3/4 days..gave it to wife..bought a 4s and loving it(I use a Mac@work,and the whole work flow is finally optimized)
ritvij
ritvij #86
Jun 13, 2012 at 2:41 PM
Re: [HELP] confused with budget form 17k to 27k

^^+1. But the question. Shall I buy it now? Or wait for a few months..:(
randomuser111
Jun 13, 2012 at 2:50 PM
Re: [HELP] confused with budget form 17k to 27k

Well wait if you can, otherwise get it now :p

It's upto you really. But yes the prices would come down only when the IP5 launches.
red dragon
Jun 13, 2012 at 3:38 PM
I bought the 4s for 32k,FU in a sealed box but without Indian warranty.
I am sure you can find one even cheaper here,if you do not care about the official warranty.
BTW Why care about official warranty?
You yourself can sort out SW issues.
Non mechanical hardware failure is pretty rare.
coolest111
Jun 13, 2012 at 6:18 PM
Re: [HELP] confused with budget form 17k to 27k

@ above
Can u help me get one iphone4s@ 32k FU

guyz forget iphone 5 in india this yr....every iphone in india is launched after almost 8-10 minimum after US launch
red dragon
Jun 13, 2012 at 7:54 PM
Where are you located?
If in kolkata,I can pm you a number,this guy is selling new FU 4s for 35k,bargain hard,you may get within 34k.But he wont probably ship it.
Look into ebay.in also.
randomuser111
Jun 13, 2012 at 7:58 PM
Re: [HELP] confused with budget form 17k to 27k

How about this listing ?

Unlocked Iphone 4s 16gb for 32999

Brand New iphone 4s Gevey Unlocked!!!! | eBay
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techlover #92
Jun 13, 2012 at 8:48 PM
Re: [HELP] confused with budget form 17k to 27k

^ that seller has just shipped 3 items till now :-?:-?
aroraanant
Jun 13, 2012 at 10:14 PM
Re: [HELP] confused with budget form 17k to 27k

Yes I would also suggest you to try to ebay.
Hey but red dragon you bought it at a very less price, I know my friend bought one from Dubai for 33k that too after a lot of bargaining as they bought around 5-6 phones.
red dragon
Jun 13, 2012 at 11:11 PM
Yes,I found a very good dealer in my city.
4 of my friends ended up buying from this guy.
I think I read somewhere(probably @TE)FU 4s is available @ Palika Bazar(Delhi)for 31k.
aroraanant
Jun 14, 2012 at 12:03 AM
Re: [HELP] confused with budget form 17k to 27k

^^^^^
But its not safe to buy from there.
As you can trust the sellers there.
I say just stay away from there.
coolest111
Jun 14, 2012 at 1:14 AM
Re: [HELP] confused with budget form 17k to 27k

31k is a lot for palika bazar

@red dragon
Can u link me 2 ur seller i'll pay 32k+shippin charges

@randomuser111
Thatz not FU....i can get locked ones arnd 20k
ritvij
ritvij #97
Jun 14, 2012 at 6:05 AM
Re: [HELP] confused with budget form 17k to 27k

Guys don't forget me.... Get me a deal too I don't give a damn about warranty. I know hw issues are rare.
red dragon
Jun 14, 2012 at 7:02 AM
@coolest,
I will ask the guy and let you know if he is ready to ship.Actually he was selling iphones @ ebay couple of months back,but probably had some dispute with either the ebay management stuff or blue dart and has stopped selling online.
I still can see some very nice deals on 4s in ebay.in.
One seller is selling for 34.5k,get hold of some coupon,it will bring down even more or talk to the seller over phone and try to strike a deal outside ebay so that he does not have to pay ebay fees.

@ritvij,
Where are you located?
ritvij
ritvij #99
Jun 14, 2012 at 8:12 AM
Gorakhpur uttar pradesh...:(:(:(. Will be shifting to modinagar later this month close to delhi.
coolest111
coolest111 #100
Jun 14, 2012 at 10:49 AM
i'm keepin a track online since couple of months for iphone....i tried to deal wid sellers located in Delhi NCR to get a deal offline but nothing below 35k...

i know that frm 32k to 35k isn't much but wen i'll get iphone i need to buy cover+screen gaurd+normal charger =arnd 2-2.5k
That already makin 32k iphone to arnd 35k
red dragon
red dragon #101
Jun 14, 2012 at 11:52 AM
Most ebay sellers give 2 transparent scratch guard for both the screen and the back.
Buy a bumper case for Rs.150-200.Your phone is safe.

DO NOT EVER apply a hard snap on case on 4/4s...it will scratch the back,sides for sure.
Do not spend on those overpriced Capdase/Casemate cases.
What do you mean by normal charger?
It comes with a usb cable and a two pin plug(which attaches to the cable)
Just buy a converter which makes it a Indian 2 pin plug(max.cost about 50 bucks)
BTW,why you guys are apprehensive of Palika Bazar?
Just make sure the seal is intact,take along your laptop with itunes installed.
The first time you connect your phone to itunes,itunes will say something like...congrats!your iphone is unlocked.
Basically thats it!
I guess most of us here will be able to distinguish a fake one simply looking at the pack or holding the phone for 5 seconds.
Only the factory unlocked thing can be confusing,but once you connect to the itunes,it will tell you for sure.
Sometimes even in a FU phone,Indian SIM does not work straight away,you may need to manually search for the network of your provider(Strangely all the white iphones I have seen,had this problem)
But once you find your network,automatic search will work(even for other provider SIMs)
aroraanant
aroraanant #102
Jun 14, 2012 at 1:56 PM
In Palika Bazar they don't only sell fake iphones, they will hand over you refurbished or some defective piece.
I just wanna stay away from Pallika Bazar.
coolest111
coolest111 #103
Jun 14, 2012 at 2:26 PM
@aroraanant
Yup refurbished is a prob

itz easy 2 say get it frm palika but not practical wen lot of risk is involved....n takin laptop n use in that chaos is hard...probab if itz fake they wont let u check via laptop
red dragon
red dragon #104
Jun 14, 2012 at 3:08 PM
I have never been to Palika,did not know it was that bad.
BTW getting hold of refurb iphone even in US is pretty difficult now.
aroraanant
aroraanant #105
Jun 14, 2012 at 3:09 PM
^^^
Buy it from ebay.
Well let me search a good seller for you.
red dragon
red dragon #106
Jun 14, 2012 at 9:44 PM
Thanks,but already bought one.
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techlover #107
Jun 16, 2012 at 5:39 PM
^ congrats! :D

from where did u buy it? and for how much?

please post some pics if u can :)
ritvij
ritvij #108
Jun 16, 2012 at 9:40 PM
^^congo mate.. in a dilemma again.. 4s or 5??
red dragon
red dragon #110
Jun 16, 2012 at 11:32 PM
^ congrats! :D

from where did u buy it? and for how much?

please post some pics if u can :)

Actually bought almost 2 weeks ago.
Locally for 32k.
Will try to put up few snaps of the entire Mac and iOS family once I get back home after another long ourdoor.
red dragon
red dragon #111
Jun 16, 2012 at 11:49 PM
^^congo mate.. in a dilemma again.. 4s or 5??

5 is not going to come soon,if you have no issues with 3.5 inch screen,go ahead and buy it!
Trust me,it is just wonderful!Never stutters even for a second,stable as a rock and most importantly after a very very long time I am not looking at the battery meter after every call,txt,mail.
Battery life in 5.1.1 is just fantastic(if you end up buying a 4s,just drop a pm if the battery is not behaving nicely)
My GS2 was a joke compared to this beauty!
aroraanant
aroraanant #112
Jun 17, 2012 at 2:22 AM
Red Dragon- You are the guy who has the maximum Apple products on TDF.And I guess you are planning to buy iMAc soon(or have already bought one).
Man you have almost every apple product.
And even I would say one thing after using apple products-"inki baat hi kuch aur hoti hai", one gets a different feeling after using them, and after using them no one likes any other device.
coolest111
coolest111 #113
Jun 17, 2012 at 10:55 AM
@aroraanant
Ya sure let me kno if can get me a good deal 4 iphone 4s...

@red dragon
Yup..iphone 5 wont b soon atleast a year for india...(if it is launched in sep-oct dis year)
ritvij
ritvij #114
Jun 17, 2012 at 11:05 AM
^^^^thanks guys.. i love the iPhone 4s..
@aroraanant- dont forget me.. i have a 3gs, a 4, a 4s, 2 iPod 3g's and a macbook pro at my home... B):D:D:D
red dragon
red dragon #115
Jun 17, 2012 at 12:31 PM
The best thing I find in iO.S is the almost absolute idiot proof nature of the o.s.
I have spent 4/5 years with Android and still not fully comfortable with it(specially those efs and voltage control scripts)
Spent hours @xda discussing kernel development with geniuses like Leomar and gokhan via thousands of pm.
Even with available source codes from Samsung,these guys are also clueless after certain point,still people have a notion that Android is easy!(may be it is easy to just flash a kernel or ROM or a initd script,but that has absolutely got nothing to do with the complexity of Android)
Apple has not or never will give us the source codes,but the absolutely awesome dev teams have managed to RE the entire damn thing so nicely with each JB that even a non technical person like me can see what is actually happening to your device once jailbroken.
Now back to the topic,
@op,if you can find a friend or relative stayin at kolkata,I think I will be able to arrange a sealed FU 4s,16GB for 34k.
coolest111
coolest111 #116
Jun 17, 2012 at 2:04 PM
no 1 on kolkata side...:(
Mostly in Delhi/NCR the one i can trust wid my money n iphone :p

i was gettin a deal in nehru place of 35.5k a while back but they wont let me verify the product

dont want a UAE edition coz that iphone dont hve facetime(i often use facetime).....
ritvij
ritvij #117
Jun 17, 2012 at 4:38 PM
@op,if you can find a friend or relative stayin at kolkata,I think I will be able to arrange a sealed FU 4s,16GB for 34k.

mate i have my sis in kolkata.. can you arrange a white iPhone 4s 16 or 32 gb :lol: till 30-31k??
red dragon
red dragon #118
Jun 18, 2012 at 8:03 AM
Talked to the seller,unfortunately 34.5k is the lowest he will go.
coolest111
coolest111 #119
Jun 18, 2012 at 7:44 PM
34.5 is on ebay too....:p
aroraanant
aroraanant #120
Jun 18, 2012 at 7:57 PM
Give me some time, I will see if I can get a better deal for you.
But if I will find something for you, it will be located in Aligarh, will you be able to pick it from there? Or I have to courier it to you?
coolest111
coolest111 #121
Jun 19, 2012 at 1:34 AM
u wil hve 2 courier...(no 1 in aligarh too)
I could wait till june end not beyond that...(coz arnd mid october i hve sum 1 comin frm states wil get iphone 5 if released by then n so i'll save for iphone 5)
ritvij
ritvij #122
Jun 20, 2012 at 5:14 PM
guys.. now this is getting scarfy.. before my dad changes his mind.. i need to buy a phone..
i have ebay coupon.. shall i buy one x or 4s?
one x- 32k
4s- 38k
red dragon
red dragon #124
Jun 20, 2012 at 9:36 PM
4s if you dont mind the price!
coolest111
coolest111 #125
Jun 20, 2012 at 10:40 PM
as u r goin til 38k get iphone @39990 wid warranty check deals of week on ebay
ritvij
ritvij #126
Jun 21, 2012 at 10:11 AM
mate its the same one.. using 5% off coupon its 38k...:):)
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faiz0210 #127
Jun 21, 2012 at 1:49 PM
my budget is some where around 20k-25k.
and i thought of buying htc sensation but it's out of stock every where.
Any help in buying sensation or suggestion for a different cell within the range?
coolest111
coolest111 #128
Jun 21, 2012 at 1:51 PM
k...get it as soon u can such deals wont last long

i tried coupon on it...but they r not workin...(they r workin on other stuff)...coupons r not valid deals of week

how ur coupon is workin?
ritvij
ritvij #129
Jun 21, 2012 at 5:08 PM
WTH!!!.. i used it early morning and it worked.. but not now..:(:(
now what?
coolest111
coolest111 #130
Jun 22, 2012 at 1:26 AM
have u done ur transaction....??(if yes u r lucky guy....)
aroraanant
aroraanant #131
Jun 22, 2012 at 10:55 PM
guys.. now this is getting scarfy.. before my dad changes his mind.. i need to buy a phone..
i have ebay coupon.. shall i buy one x or 4s?
one x- 32k
4s- 38k

I suggest you to buy One X.
But if you something smooth and a hassle free phone but with some limitations and small screen then get iphone
red dragon
red dragon #132
Jun 22, 2012 at 11:09 PM
After jailbreaking,those limitations wont be there.
But for me the biggest plus is the battery life.
When the 4s came first,the battery life was just like any Android (in fact GS2 lasted longer than the 4s of my boss)
Now with 5.1.1 the battery life is just awesome,I can easily get 7/8 hrs of screen time(just double of the gs2!!)with 3G.
aroraanant
aroraanant #133
Jun 22, 2012 at 11:13 PM
Well thats true...