Help for new pc config

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Hello guys,

1. What is the purpose of the computer? What all applications and games are you going to run? (Stupid answers like 'gaming' or 'office work' will not work. Be exact. Which games? Which applications? Avoid the word 'et cetera.')
Ans: Playing HD movies, a few games like nfs, assassins creed mid level games.

2. What is your overall budget? If you can extend a bit for a more balanced configuration, then mention this too.
Ans:20-25k

3. Planning to overclock?
Ans:no

4. Which Operating System are you planning to use?
Ans:windows 7

5. How much hard drive space is needed?
Ans: 1 tb

6. Do you want to buy a monitor? If yes, please mention which screen size and resolution do you want. If you already have a monitor and want to reuse it, again mention the size and resolution of monitor you have.
Ans:no

7. Which components you DON'T want to buy or which components you already have and plan on reusing?
Ans: monitor, keyboard mouse, speakers!

8. When are you planning to buy the system?
Ans:In a weeks time

9. Have you ever built a desktop before or will this be done by an assembler?
Ans: Assembler

10. Where do you live? Are you buying locally? Are you open to buying stuff from online shops if you don't get locally?
Ans: Pune, buying locally. yes buying online is not a problem

11. Anything else which you would like to say?
Ans: I was planning to get i3-2120 with 4gb ddr3 ram. Not planned on the motherboard or graphics card. I dont plan on buying anything else other than the cpu so i hope you guys would help me get a good config for 20-25k.

CHEERS

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AMD A10-5800K (comes with HD 7660D Graphics) @ 8.4K
Asus F2A85-M-LE @ 5.7K
Corsair Vengeance 1600 MHz 8GB X 1 CL9 DDR3 @ 2.7K
NZXT Source 210 Elite (1 Front USB 3.0 port) @ 2.6K
WD Caviar Green 1TB with 64 MB Cache @ 4.2K
Corsair CX 430 V2 @ 2.6K

Total=26K

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#	Component	Model	Price	Comment/Link
1	Processor	Intel Pentium G645 (Dual Core)	Rs. 3500/-
2	Motherboard	Intel DH61HO	Rs. 3000/-
3	GPU	ATI HD7770 1GB GDDR5	Rs. 8000/-
4	RAM	G.Skill / Corsair value Series 8GB (4x2) DDR-III 1333 MHz	Rs. 2200/-
5	HDD	WD Green 1TB	Rs. 4200/-
6	Cabinet	Local	Rs. 800/-
7	PSU	Corsair VS450	Rs. 2000/-
8	UPS	Local	1400
9	DVD RW	LG	Rs. 800/-
10	Total	If purchased from locally (10/15% more if from online )	Rs. 25/26k

+1 to Naxal's config...
Go for it VFM cant be better

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Dude A10 has better processing power than G45.......

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Thankyou guys for the replies,
I was wondering why not to go for i3 rather than AMD A10-5800K/Intel Pentium G645 (Dual Core). Assemblers here suggest to go for intel. they say amd has always had problems.

There is no problem with AMD, don't listen to the dealers.

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i3- 2120 @ 6.9k
61 ww intel chipset @ 3k
transend 4gb ddr3 1333 @ 1.2k
1tb seagate hd- @ 4.5k
circle 623 cabinet- @ 1.8k
gt610 2gb @ 3.5k
total- 20,900

Is it worth?

Just spending a few hundred bucks you can get i3 3220 which is superior to i3 2120. For Ram, why not Corsair Value Ram when it is available at the same price point? Buddy, don't forget, Corsair Rams can run at higher speed, available at the same price and offers 10 years of warranty.

GT 610....Best of luck with your game playing experience.

Get a HD 6670 DDR3 graphics card, available around 3.8 to 4K.

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A10 will go much better for you. Why??

1.mid gaming performance(Has integrated GPU)+mid processing processor(better than g45 and little less than i3)................

2.A10's GPU will totally overpower 210...............

3.And total price is within 21K.................

4.Easily up-gradable (The next generation APU will also have same socket type so you wont need to replace MOBO)

5.Quad cores = Better support in works like Photoshop......

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Thankyou guys

@ draco- the amd a10 5800k is @ 8.2k while i3 3220 @ 7k. so i think i wud opt for i3. Can you suggest me a good mobo for it. Cheers

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Go with naxal‘s config. its well balanced, and get a decent cooler like cm 212 evo. else stretch the budget and get a i3 3220 paired with a hd7770 and for motherboard go for any h77 chipset based motherboard and get a wd caviar blue1tb hdd avoid green hdd.

if your budget is really 25K, then Naxal's combo is the one. dont gripe over iGPU. the HD7770 is far better. than any iGPU.

dont cheap out on critical components like RAMs. Corsair is a reputed brand and RMA and service is very good.

wrath said:
Thankyou guys

@ draco- the amd a10 5800k is @ 8.2k while i3 3220 @ 7k. so i think i wud opt for i3. Can you suggest me a good mobo for it. Cheers

You did not get what draco said the a10 has decent integrated gpu so that it will allow you to play games without even adding dedicated gpu, so see it like this you are getting cpu+gpu in 8k vs i3 which is just the cpu and has worthless gpu onboard for 7.2k, i think the decision should be pretty clear here.

Second point i would like to iterate is that with the a10 if down the line in future you add a dedicated hd 7xxx series gpu then it will work in hybrid crossfire mode with the already present onboard gpu on the a10 so its a much better deal !

Lastly the lga 1155 platform is about to be phased out, i mean going down the drain, intel will stop producing it and hence if you would want to upgrade in future you would have to change the motherboard as well to jump to a newer and better processor, while with amd even the next gen cpus are gonna support the current platform and upgrading would only require you to buy a new cpu, thats it !

And not to mention things are now becoming more and more optimized for multicores so in genral tasks in the coming time an i3 with 2 cores would not be a logical choice !

bharadghost said:
Lastly the lga 1155 platform is about to be phased out, i mean going down the drain, intel will stop producing it and hence if you would want to upgrade in future you would have to change the motherboard as well to jump to a newer and better processor, while with amd even the next gen cpus are gonna support the current platform and upgrading would only require you to buy a new cpu, thats it !
And not to mention things are now becoming more and more optimed for multicores so in genral tasks in the coming time an i3 with 2 cores would not be a logical choice !

Yeah nice points there buddy

Chaitanya said:
Yeah nice points there buddy

Except for the typos i did there

bharadghost said:
Except for the typos i did there

Lol

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I think i wud go with draco's build. but i have a few question( sorry for that)

1. I have heard amd processors consume more power n have heating issues. is that true?

2. Would i be able to play moderate lvl games like assassins creed new nfs games without a gpu?

3. Asus F2A85-M-LE would allow me to upgrade new cpu if needed in future?

4. i3 3220 vs A10-5800k overall? and i3220 vs A10-5800k (both with HD 6670)?

wrath said:
I think i wud go with draco's build. but i have a few question( sorry for that)

1. I have heard amd processors consume more power n have heating issues. is that true?

2. Would i be able to play moderate lvl games like assassins creed new nfs games without a gpu?

3. Asus F2A85-M-LE would allow me to upgrade new cpu if needed in future?

4. i3 3220 vs A10-5800k overall? and i3220 vs A10-5800k (both with HD 6670)?

1) That is a misconception, yeah compared to intel they do eat a bit more power but they generally don't heat up to an extent to cause the user any problem if used in a proper way(i mean a decent cabinet with some airflow) !

2) Yes it has 384 shaders equipped hd 7660D gpu onboard !

3) Yes, it will support at least one more generation of APU's !

4) Forget hd 6670, amd can make use of hybrid crossfire if the onboard gpu and dedicated gpu belong to the same series, meaning if you take hd 7670(donno if its available for desktop yet but just giving you an example) then
a10 + hd 7670 > i3 + hd7670 and this is because in teh a10's case the total gpu performance will be = hd7660D + hd7670 while with intel you will only be using hd7670 !

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ok thanks man...just suggest me a cabinet and do i need a cooler?

this is what draco suggested! CHEERS

AMD A10-5800K (comes with HD 7660D Graphics) @ 8.4K
Asus F2A85-M-LE @ 5.7K
Corsair Vengeance 1600 MHz 8GB X 1 CL9 DDR3 @ 2.7K
NZXT Source 210 Elite (1 Front USB 3.0 port) @ 2.6K
WD Caviar Green 1TB with 64 MB Cache @ 4.2K
Corsair CX 430 V2 @ 2.6K

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Would this be a good configuration for a c.p.u?

MSI H61M-P20 (G3) Motherboard,intel g530 processor, ZOTAC NVIDIA GeForce GT 610 Synergy Edi tion 2 GB DDR. Wou3 Graphics Card. Would it be a gud config for a gaming rack. Plus 8 gb ram.

Go for Gskill ripjaws x 4gb ram stick(save money, you don't need 8gb, instead keep that money to buy better gpu later on)
Moreover vengeance sticks have high clearance height which will be a trouble while installing afternarket cpu cooler !

Go with Caviar blue series rather than green / green is a low rpm drive menat for data storage and not for rough usage !

I think for 2.4k NZXT Gamma cabinet is a much better option in terms of cooling and looks as well as cable routing !

Now last but not the least as the cpu is overclockable and there is no reason why you should not learn and venture into overclocking to get the most out of your hardware, i would suggest to look at slightly better motherboard, the odd 1.2k you are saving by taking 4gb ram can be diverted to motherboard budget and you should get this imo !

AMD A10-5800K (comes with HD 7660D Graphics) @ 8.4K
ASrock A85X Extreme 6/MSI A85X G65 @ 8K
GSkill Ripjaws X 1600 MHz 4GB X 1 CL9 DDR3 @ 1.5K
NZXT Gamma @ 2.4K
WD Caviar Blue 1TB/Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200rpm @ 4.3K
Corsair CX 430 V2 @ 2.6K
Total --- roughly 26k

To save up a bit more you could take 500 GB instead of 1TB which would bring the cost down to 25K which is in your budget !

Instead of spending 8K for Motherboard at a 25K budget PC, get ASUS F2A85-M @ 6.7K which is more than sufficient for all your needs. With that money, get a single 1600 MHz 8GB Module from Corsair (2.7K) or Kingston HyperX Blue (3.1K). I am suggesting you 8GB because the IGP of the CPU, HD 7660D is going to share Memory from the existing Ram and it can share up to 2.5GB of memory, resulting only 1.5GB of effective system Memory in full GPU load sometimes. So 8GB module is recommended.

Also my preference is Kingston HyperX Blue module over G-Skill or Corsair Vengeance because of the overclocking potential. As IGP is going to use the same memory, faster the memory, faster the GPU performance. Even with older Llano APU, A8-3870K, it has been observed that there is more than 33% performance improvement between 1866 MHz Ram and a 1066 MHz Ram. Kingston modules are known for their extreme overclocking potential and they can run at 1866 MHz speed with ease. In fact they can be pushed over 2000 MHz with good stability.

Re: Would this be a good configuration for a c.p.u?

Sauravdyakuza said:
MSI H61M-P20 (G3) Motherboard,intel g530 processor, ZOTAC NVIDIA GeForce GT 610 Synergy Edi tion 2 GB DDR. Wou3 Graphics Card. Would it be a gud config for a gaming rack. Plus 8 gb ram.

Create a new thread & post appropriate requirements & budget then ask so that you perfect answer BTW the rig you posted cannot play latest games even at lowest settings

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I dont want to stretch the budget to 25k..want to keep it to 20-23K.. so where can i cut back? i mean if i get a local cabinet, is that okay? I think darco's build up top would be just perfect for me at 21k..but i can spend an extra 2k here and there!

wrath said:
I dont want to stretch the budget to 25k..want to keep it to 20-23K.. so where can i cut back? i mean if i get a local cabinet, is that okay? I think darco's build up top would be just perfect for me at 21k..but i can spend an extra 2k here and there!

Nice point by Cilus, you can cut back on the motherboard and get whatever else i listed and your budget will be within 23k

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Dude it still comes up to 25k and cilus has suggested 8gb ram so that adds to 25-26k again! I need to buy the ups too :-(

AMD A10-5800K (comes with HD 7660D Graphics) @ 8.4K
ASUS F2A85-M @ 6.7K
GSkill Ripjaws X 1600 MHz 4GB X 1 CL9 DDR3 @ 2.8K/as cilus has pointed out sansung has some really good ram modules out there which overclock really well(i believe they are low profile ones with lower voltage requirements).
Cooler Master Elite 311 1.8k
WD Caviar Blue 500GB/Seagate Barracuda 500GB 7200rpm @ 3.4K
Corsair CX 430 V2 @ 2.6K
Total --- roughly 25K
Hmmm now even if you take local cabby which i won't suggest you will save another 700-800rs max which still won't bring your budget down to 23k as you desire, only viable option here seems to be to take 4gb ram now and add another 4 later or take cheaper cpu !

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Hmm...so you are talking about my config....(first time for me) :-D

about cabinet,
NZXT Source 210 Elite (1 Front USB 3.0 port) @ 2.6K is better as it has a 3.0 usb support. As the mobo has a 3.0 usb port too i think you will be better off with this .

But if you over clock, then may be you should get something with better air flow and add some ports later (something like this Newegg.com - GWC HU3140 USB 3.0 SuperSpeed 4-Port Hub with 4 Amp External Power Supply)

for no over clocking, you can safely rely on that NZXT Source 210 Elite.

Also the ram suggested by cilius is better [Kingston HyperX Blue (3.1K)]

actually a local one will also do good if you add the ports. You wont be needing many bays as there is only one hdd drive and i suppose you will add 1 CD-DVD drive . Make sure to buy a large one....

@wrath

i am also thinking to buy AMD system with this config.

PROCESSOR - AMD A10-5800K @Rs 8400

MOTHERBOARD - Asus F2A85-M-LE @Rs 5750

RAM - Corsair Vengeance DDR3 4 GB @Rs. 1899

CABINET - NZXT Source 210 Elite (1 Front USB 3.0 port)

WD Caviar Blue 500 GB Desktop Internal Hard Drive with 64 MB Cache @Rs. 3439

Corsair CX 430 V2 @Rs. 2.6K

Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO Cooler @Rs. 2191

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sounds good rockstar! I am just waiting for my assembler to quote his prices! Thanks a lot guys!

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guys can i put this cpu to any use? Pentium(R) D 3.00 ghz and iball psu lpe223-400?? its from my old system!

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even without external GPU, i doubt about that PSU

if budget problems get a Frontech 700 bucks PSU [very important no other brands] and dont overclock too high

draco21 said:
even without external GPU, i doubt about that PSU

if budget problems get a Frontech 700 bucks PSU [very important no other brands] and dont overclock too high

for this comment if you wanna take the short route to Frying your PC

@Draco: you write a book about Frying PCs without Oil and Fire.

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why??

frontech PSU's are very nice compared to all other PSU's at low cost also there is no external GPU to be added

That PSU can handle stuff alright. [ without external GPU of course]

For Cheap Rigs , it can handle. But....

draco21 said:
why??

frontech PSU's are very nice compared to all other PSU's at low cost also there is no external GPU to be added

That PSU can handle stuff alright. [ without external GPU of course]

oh yes.. its perfectly okay.

go ahead.

draco21 said:
why??

frontech PSU's are very nice compared to all other PSU's at low cost also there is no external GPU to be added

That PSU can handle stuff alright. [ without external GPU of course]

yes frontech is better than all local brands especially their platinum series but you see its 600 watt model costs close to 2.5k or even more but in actuality its a mere 300-400 watt underpowered unit which can and i will stress "can" hold you system for an year or 2 without any issue if your power requirements are under 400 watt

But now comes the twist in 2.5-2.6k you can buy yourself a Corsair CX430 V2 which will be many time better than that frontech psu and has true 430 watts capability with 80+ certification, so you tell me now why should anyone buy frontech when you can get cx 430 for so cheap

That was the whole point not that it will fry your system as someone said(as it won't unless you are overburdening that underpowered unit or don't have any spike buster or protection from voltage spikes/drops

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*www.thinkdigit.com/forum/power-sup...89-power-supply-blacklist-thread-newbies.html

Was that for my comment ^ ?
Just asking !
Coz i know all that you are implying by posting that link, btw im also on overclock.net from which an article has been included in that link

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there is no GPU involved here , what do you think will destroy the PC??

draco21 said:
Dude
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there is no GPU involved here , what do you think will destroy the PC??

an unwanted spike in the mains, which would generally be filtered by Corsair/Seasonic/Antec transient filtering stage [Link]... spikes are potential PC buster.

btw, dude, would you take responsibility after a OP uses a frontech PSU and his rigs goes kaput due to the PSU?? do you think frontech will replace the rig if the PSU is faulty? Corsair does.

give suggestion for which you can take responsibilities. the guys here suggest Corsair/Seasonic because even if the the rig bricks, Corsair provide excellent support. and seasonics are well known for their rock solid performance...

you like to help people, and we all love you for that.. but help responsibly.

i hope i am able to get through to you. no offence.

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Dude it is not sth i am talking of my own... though i have read that thread about PSU's and know ppl here are more intelligent and all that, but still there is something i see.. a cyber cafe near my house got his PC's upgraded with i3 and an nvidia card (not sure which but not high end around 4-5K) on all his PC's. He has the some frontech PSU which has been going good for almost 1 year . His PC's still run best around here.

So i am a bit confused about cheap PC's needing good PSU's [ of course no confusion for good ones]

its just luck. andmost of the shops will try and get you to buy local psu. coz if your PSU goes kaput with your pc, you would go to him to buy another. not in reliable shops though..